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''The Moloch Suskind Interview - Here is the [[Malton_Herald_%26_Sun|Front]] Page''<br> | ''The Moloch Suskind Interview - Here is the [[Malton_Herald_%26_Sun|Front]] Page of the MH&S''<br> | ||
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<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: It was like most dramas: It started off as people talking past one another and it blew up from there. I think Jorm just wanted to make a point, but he struck a nerve with the Gore Corps, particularly Goolina, and I rushed in to defend her. It kept growing from there as the Barhah Brigade members banded together. As far as the argument itself goes... We've been there a million times: Everyone knows that I think death culting is fine; they (the MOB/Brigade) don't (or at least don't think it's fine for the RRF) and that's that. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: It was like most dramas: It started off as people talking past one another and it blew up from there. I think Jorm just wanted to make a point, but he struck a nerve with the Gore Corps, particularly Goolina, and I rushed in to defend her. It kept growing from there as the Barhah Brigade members banded together. As far as the argument itself goes... We've been there a million times: Everyone knows that I think death culting is fine; they (the MOB/Brigade) don't (or at least don't think it's fine for the RRF) and that's that. | ||
<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: Would you say that that metagame 'baptism of fire' helped you in the months to come, by strengthening your bonds with certain War | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: Would you say that that metagame 'baptism of fire' helped you in the months to come, by strengthening your bonds with certain War Counselors? | ||
<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I suppose. I think it just really cemented that generation of the RRF's leadership. Pat was still around from the time of Petro and Sonny, but he was about it. From there the core of the leadership was myself, Talunex, Goolina and deathbymoshpit. part of the reason the drama flared up then is that Pat wasn't around and DBM was about the most drama-averse War Council member ever, so really the three of us bonded over that, although the bond between the three of us was always close from Blackmore, the 5th of November and the Gore Corps and AU10 forming in such a short period of time. Oh, and hairyjim was doing his own thing with the GMTBC, because that's what he always did | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I suppose. I think it just really cemented that generation of the RRF's leadership. Pat was still around from the time of Petro and Sonny, but he was about it. From there the core of the leadership was myself, Talunex, Goolina and deathbymoshpit. part of the reason the drama flared up then is that Pat wasn't around and DBM was about the most drama-averse War Council member ever, so really the three of us bonded over that, although the bond between the three of us was always close from Blackmore, the 5th of November and the Gore Corps and AU10 forming in such a short period of time. Oh, and hairyjim was doing his own thing with the GMTBC, because that's what he always did | ||
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<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: How much of an influence did it have on your leadership, starting our at that low point? Did you go in feeling that the only way was up, or were you feeling less optimistic than that? By which I mean, after withdrawing from Santlerville. | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: How much of an influence did it have on your leadership, starting our at that low point? Did you go in feeling that the only way was up, or were you feeling less optimistic than that? By which I mean, after withdrawing from Santlerville. | ||
<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: Well, at that point I think there was more relief that we were leaving Santlerville. Right afterwards we divided the horde into two parts again, flattening both the Survivor Security Zone and areas close to Santlerville. So it affirmed that we ran into a | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: Well, at that point I think there was more relief that we were leaving Santlerville. Right afterwards we divided the horde into two parts again, flattening both the Survivor Security Zone and areas close to Santlerville. So it affirmed that we ran into a buzz saw more than that the horde was falling apart. Although I guess it's more accurate to say the greater homeland than the SSZ, since we were hitting areas like Barhahville and Galbraith Heights with DoHS and AU10. We were pretty much avoiding malls like the plague right after Santlerville. | ||
<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: So there was a decision to avoid further potential sieges? | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: So there was a decision to avoid further potential sieges? | ||
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<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: Oh... Goolina probably. I originally wanted Talunex to be my #2, but real life took him down hard. She was kind of like the rock of support for me as everything around me changed. I don't think the problem is that things were changing, but the pace of the changes. DBM got claimed by real life and was replaced by Bongo and Bragz. Karek was running DoHS for a while, but had to step down so Kitten then had to and SomewhatDeceased came onto the scene. We had a rapid succession in leadership in the MCC and AU10 at the time too, and Pyro stepped for a time as the formal #2, and even though he did a capable job, he just wasn't what I was looking for (which was basically a clone of Tals). Oddly enough, when some semblance of stability was restored (except for in Group 0) was when the burnout really got to me, so I couldn't really appreciate that we had reassembled a good leadership group. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: Oh... Goolina probably. I originally wanted Talunex to be my #2, but real life took him down hard. She was kind of like the rock of support for me as everything around me changed. I don't think the problem is that things were changing, but the pace of the changes. DBM got claimed by real life and was replaced by Bongo and Bragz. Karek was running DoHS for a while, but had to step down so Kitten then had to and SomewhatDeceased came onto the scene. We had a rapid succession in leadership in the MCC and AU10 at the time too, and Pyro stepped for a time as the formal #2, and even though he did a capable job, he just wasn't what I was looking for (which was basically a clone of Tals). Oddly enough, when some semblance of stability was restored (except for in Group 0) was when the burnout really got to me, so I couldn't really appreciate that we had reassembled a good leadership group. | ||
<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: Continuing the War Council theme, you are noted as a good talent spotter. What for you makes a good War | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: Continuing the War Council theme, you are noted as a good talent spotter. What for you makes a good War Counselor or horde 'elder'? | ||
<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: The person who's willing to put forth the effort. I think I somehow got the sixth sense developed to tell the difference between the person would put in the effort and someone who was full of hot air. The notable exception being myself when I wanted to create a new strike team. Call it Don Tickles versus a certain former WC member who shall remain nameless. Don was very quiet when he joined the horde, but he was at the strikes almost everyday, and when he piped up it was something really valuable. I took note of that and punished him for it. The one who shall remain nameless talked a huge game, but never really delivered. In fact, he got so bad I had to boot him. Oh, one more thing in answer to that question: It's also spotting the people who are doing things on their own, versus the people who are asking you to do things for them. Spotting actual work over ambition. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: The person who's willing to put forth the effort. I think I somehow got the sixth sense developed to tell the difference between the person would put in the effort and someone who was full of hot air. The notable exception being myself when I wanted to create a new strike team. Call it Don Tickles versus a certain former WC member who shall remain nameless. Don was very quiet when he joined the horde, but he was at the strikes almost everyday, and when he piped up it was something really valuable. I took note of that and punished him for it. The one who shall remain nameless talked a huge game, but never really delivered. In fact, he got so bad I had to boot him. Oh, one more thing in answer to that question: It's also spotting the people who are doing things on their own, versus the people who are asking you to do things for them. Spotting actual work over ambition. | ||
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<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: This is going to make me sound like I have an ego problem, but by the time I became Papa, I thought I had earned it. There were some things that happened while I was Papa that helped deflate that ego a bit. But I had gotten over the mystique of the group before I was Papa. What weighed on me more was the daily grind and the fact that when you're the guy at the top you sometimes have to be the bad guy. In the end, I'd like to think that while I can get overly enthusiastic, it's still just a game. While I do think the RRF has earned a level of respect and mystique, it's something where when you get to the inner-workings of the horde, you realize it's just a bunch of normal people doing all of this stuff. And Nellie. Normal people and Nellie. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: This is going to make me sound like I have an ego problem, but by the time I became Papa, I thought I had earned it. There were some things that happened while I was Papa that helped deflate that ego a bit. But I had gotten over the mystique of the group before I was Papa. What weighed on me more was the daily grind and the fact that when you're the guy at the top you sometimes have to be the bad guy. In the end, I'd like to think that while I can get overly enthusiastic, it's still just a game. While I do think the RRF has earned a level of respect and mystique, it's something where when you get to the inner-workings of the horde, you realize it's just a bunch of normal people doing all of this stuff. And Nellie. Normal people and Nellie. | ||
<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: Well quite. Continuing along those lines, I remember when I first joined the horde and took part in a secret project of yours that you | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: Well quite. Continuing along those lines, I remember when I first joined the horde and took part in a secret project of yours that you characterized yourself as a 'bad loser'. How important do you consider winning to be in a game such as Urban Dead? Is it even possible to win at all? | ||
<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: Yeah, I'm a sore loser. I take things kind of battle by battle. Sometimes I get ahead of myself and plan something really big when I should be dealing what's in front of me, but I'm not stupid: I know it's impossible to "win" the entire game, but I still want to fucking destroy Santlerville. If we end up going there on tour you'll receive a PM from me outlining just how I want to completely and utterly fuck up the area. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: Yeah, I'm a sore loser. I take things kind of battle by battle. Sometimes I get ahead of myself and plan something really big when I should be dealing what's in front of me, but I'm not stupid: I know it's impossible to "win" the entire game, but I still want to fucking destroy Santlerville. If we end up going there on tour you'll receive a PM from me outlining just how I want to completely and utterly fuck up the area. | ||
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<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I guess you just had to be there. It's really hard to make someone who wasn't there understand it. Back when the Quartly started inviting guest speakers, it was widely appreciated as an actual service of the game. Kind of a platform for people to talk about various topics and explore things. Then came the famous Quartly squaredance, which was probably the highlight of the Red Guards. This was before griefers had ruined the library every time someone opened the door, so the Red Guards then AU10 and some of the Gore Corps literally showed up and just danced. It was a fun, random thing that we decided "Hey, maybe we can make an exception for these people." Leave them be in peace instead of just eating them. That and Sir Fred and the other libraries genuinely appreciated the sentiment behind the squaredance: That it was more important for us to have fun than it was to crush, kill and destroy. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I guess you just had to be there. It's really hard to make someone who wasn't there understand it. Back when the Quartly started inviting guest speakers, it was widely appreciated as an actual service of the game. Kind of a platform for people to talk about various topics and explore things. Then came the famous Quartly squaredance, which was probably the highlight of the Red Guards. This was before griefers had ruined the library every time someone opened the door, so the Red Guards then AU10 and some of the Gore Corps literally showed up and just danced. It was a fun, random thing that we decided "Hey, maybe we can make an exception for these people." Leave them be in peace instead of just eating them. That and Sir Fred and the other libraries genuinely appreciated the sentiment behind the squaredance: That it was more important for us to have fun than it was to crush, kill and destroy. | ||
<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: A controversial moment in the history of the ties between the RRF and Quartly Library (probably far more controversial than you | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: A controversial moment in the history of the ties between the RRF and Quartly Library (probably far more controversial than you realize) came when you deployed the Gore Corps to actually defend the library from attack. How did you come to make this decision and how did you reconcile it with your fervent desire to separate zombie from breather? | ||
<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I guess it ties back to the whole "you just had to be there" thing. Most of the people I deployed to do it weren't there and didn't get it. However, the library was being griefed by a bunch of punk-ass amateurs who refused to leave even after they ate and ransacked the library. So I wanted to show them how it was done. It's hard to do that through ZKing, so I sent the Gore Corps. Have your fun, but don't ruin the fun of others. As much as we may not like to admit it, there is the zombie equivalent of trenchcoaters. Those zombies were trenchy and I wanted to put them in their place. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I guess it ties back to the whole "you just had to be there" thing. Most of the people I deployed to do it weren't there and didn't get it. However, the library was being griefed by a bunch of punk-ass amateurs who refused to leave even after they ate and ransacked the library. So I wanted to show them how it was done. It's hard to do that through ZKing, so I sent the Gore Corps. Have your fun, but don't ruin the fun of others. As much as we may not like to admit it, there is the zombie equivalent of trenchcoaters. Those zombies were trenchy and I wanted to put them in their place. | ||
<br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: One of the things which I would say | <br><font color="red">'''LM'''</font>: One of the things which I would say characterizes your time in Urban Dead is the 'quest for the epic'. I always had the sense that you were looking to make a big mark on the game in some way, via the RRF's tours, the attack on Caiger Mall and starting the second Big Bash. Do you feel that you achieved your quest? Do you even agree that you were on a quest at all? Did starting with an historic defeat have any bearing on that? | ||
<br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I don't think Santlerville had anything to do with it, I think Blackmore had a lot to do with it. The first Blackmore was so much fun for me that I've always been trying to recapture it. I've kind of come to terms with the fact that no siege is as fun as the first one. At the same time, I still think they're fun. The Big Bash was a combination of that impulse, along with a very misguided attempt to rekindle my interest in the game. Basically I thought I was getting bored when I was really getting burned out. And that goes with other things I did at the time, like the Know Nothings (actually a fairly proud achievement of mine, even if it's a modest one) and my involvement with Red Rum and another more anonymous PKer group. | <br><font color="blue">'''MJS'''</font>: I don't think Santlerville had anything to do with it, I think Blackmore had a lot to do with it. The first Blackmore was so much fun for me that I've always been trying to recapture it. I've kind of come to terms with the fact that no siege is as fun as the first one. At the same time, I still think they're fun. The Big Bash was a combination of that impulse, along with a very misguided attempt to rekindle my interest in the game. Basically I thought I was getting bored when I was really getting burned out. And that goes with other things I did at the time, like the Know Nothings (actually a fairly proud achievement of mine, even if it's a modest one) and my involvement with Red Rum and another more anonymous PKer group. |
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