UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Amazing vs. MaulMachine(2)

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Amazing vs. MaulMachine again..

Linky! As you can see MaulMachine deleted an unfavorable post because he did not appreciate the content. This is a case-in-progress, as I am asking another from my group to re-post the info so it's not ME posting it. If he deletes the second post I will probably ask for a ruling on this. -- Does this belong in the vandal banning area? -- Amazing 03:47, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Blow-by-Blow Update: He just edited my User page (not the talk page) to slam me. Linky! -- Amazing 03:53, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Moved it here. -- Amazing 05:22, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Ergh. He's been warned twice for vandalizing your page and the other talk page, if he does this again he'll be banned. --LibrarianBrent 05:31, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Much obliged. Sorry to take up Mod time yet again. :\ -- Amazing 05:33, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

It looks like Maul Machine just posted a comment to the Amazin's User page instead of User_Talk, by mistake. Once, and without an edit war. Hardly banning-offence vandalism, unless I've missed something. --Spiro 06:01, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

In this instance I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that the history of behavior is being taken into account along with the fact that MaulMachine is a long-time poster who knows the difference between what he's doing and what he's supposed to do in terms of Wiki comment placement. As I say there was a previous case in which both he and I were chastised for bickering obnoxiously and beyond the limits of proper Wiki usage. Taking that into account, MaulMachine's removal of a comment on a page that isn't even his ABOUT a person that wasn't even him, coupled with the fact that he made up a fake Moderator Ruling, coupled with the fact that he went to my page to post on the front page instead of where he was supposed to makes for the case as a whole. If that didn't make sense, blah! heh. -- Amazing 06:37, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Now if I could just stop Daxx from doing similar content-driven deletions. :\ -- Amazing 06:41, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Response

I need hardly point out that until this time, I had refrained from posting on Amazing or CDF pages because of the ruling. I would also point out that Amazing posted on the LCD talk page calling one of our men a "little shit", and has now declared me an enemy of his group for absolutely no reason at all. As for the allegation that I have "helped" the Mall Tour...OF COURSE I DID. One of my characters has Brain Rot. Is it a crime to play as a zombie now? Amazing, I'm not the only person that you have hideously insulted with your complete and utter lack of manners on the wiki. You've done everything from piss off the mods to go after CoL members to call Kevan a liar. If anyone here needs to penalized, it is him. Now, my subordinate's comments were uncalled for, but calling me a "Zombie Spy" for doing nothing other than playing through an alt is hardly appropriate. I find your behavior appaling and your utter disregard for wiki decorum disgraceful. This matter was closed, Amazing. Do not open it again.

Now, on to the unfounded accusations that have been leveled against me. Yes, I did edit his user:Talk page. I did it in response to the demands he leveled against Jorge Bermudez and the group as a whole. His comments were uncalled for and viciously rude. I responded by reminding him that he was not to post on the page and that Jorge was absolutely right in his comments. Though his methods were uncalled for, his message was clear: the group we split from was indeed more active and as a whole, better than the one Amazing ran. Now, while this has no bearing on this mater, I believe that it needs to be said: we cut off relations before because you are a liablity, Amazing. Your lack of foresight and humility is truly disgusting. Your activites are petty and backstabbing. You sucked up to whomever you feel like sucking up too in return for positive views, then turn and use everything from obscene language to cryptic warnings to get whatever you weant. You play people's words and mock them. I cannot believe I ever considered allying myself with you, one way or another. You are a foul person in terms of wiki behavior, and though I have made some slight transgressions, they cannot in the same sentence be compared to your slimy actions. You have personally insulted me and my organization, and it is only in the face of the looming Caiger Mk. 2 siege that I do not uproot myself andd move to another area of the map permanently. I cannot and will not stand for any claims that your actions on the LCD talk page were anything but petty vandalism. If you have an issue, then take it up with the member that caused it, not the whole group. You, "sir", are a disgrace and are no friend of the LCD. I await the ruling with anticipation, for one way or another, your pointless whining and needless bickering has wasted a great deal of my time and the time of my superiours in-game.

You have insulted me, you have issued absurd orders, yes, ORDERS, to my group, you have issued false information to your group (after, oddly enough, having me put up for moderation for doing the same thing before, you mindless hypocrite), and you have called the game's CREATOR a liar. I can't honestly believe you have retained your posting rights as far as you have. Despite my angry response hereof, I do consider myself capable of acts of unbiased nature, and from the vantage point of clarity, even then I am incapable of fathoming the nonexistant reasoning behind your thoughtless acts. He has asked for my banning, and claimed that my acts are stand-alone proof fot its necessity. This is a bald-faced lie, and I am stunned that anyone would think otherwise. This is a matter of balck and white, moderators...I am right and he is wrong. My actions do not constitute a ban, wheras his actions are clearly designed to do little nothing more than to stir up further trouble. An order has been given by my in-game superiors to withdraw from Caiger and regroup to discuss the situation. It is with great reluctance that I withdraw from the up-coming seige, for I dearly wished to prove wrong the claim your filthy mouth has put foreward: LCD DOES NOT RUN. We NEVER run. We fight to the last, not snug ourselves into some police department in the back of beyond. We are not cowards, we are not, in your own words, and this is a direct quote: "Little shits", and we are by no means the kind of people who simply cut and run. I have had enough of your mindless slander and your senseless fightmongering. Your libelous claims and "holy-er-than-thou" orders to my group are baseless and are to be treated as such. This, ladies and gentlemen, is a very clear point. Your argument is punctuated with Blah! heh. and you expect to be taken seriously?MaulMachine 15:00, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

(Christ on a fourwheeler, that was a it of an essay, wasn't it?

Wow, he even changed my post of support on the Caiger Mall Survivors to say I betrayed them, which as you all know is a lie. I changed it back. I run an alt that is a zombie, Amazing, stop making that sound like a betrayal. MaulMachine 17:43, 30 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Edited for grammar.

Summary

I've archived the Bullshiz HERE for anyone who wants to read the argument between MaulMachine and myself. It was cluttering this page and has been Archived - which Maul will claim was vandalism, I'm sure.

A running tally of how many vandalizations MaulMachine has committed. Note he had deleted other peoples' posts, not just my own. Note that some were about him but some were NOT about him. Note that a lot are on TALK pages where discussion is allowed on this topic and more. Note that the Caiger page has a LIST OF SPIES AND BRAIN ROTTERS and I merely added that he may be one. -- Amazing 01:30, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Knowing full well that I wasn't. MaulMachine 01:30, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DELETE POSTINGS AND BLANK PAGES. Stop Replying. You were and you are a traitor. "MaulMachine's Return" was a member of LCD then turned Brain-Rot Zombie and helped the Mall Tour. You WERE MAULMACHINE ON UD AND THE WIKI. Stop replying to every fucking post I make anywhere on the Wiki. -- Amazing 01:33, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Stop lying in every single post you make in the wiki. Christ,you're like a fuckin' four-year-old with a need for pising off the parents. MaulMachine 01:35, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Last Word. (Let's see if he can resist replying.) -- Amazing 01:36, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

1. Caiger Mall Survivors
2. Caiger Mall Survivors TALK
3. Caiger Mall Survivors
4. Caiger Mall Survivors
5. Caiger Mall Survivors
6. Caiger Mall Survivors
7. Caiger Mall Survivors
8. Caiger Mall Survivors
9. Caiger Mall Survivors TALK
10. LCD TALK
11. LCD TALK
12. LCD TALK
13. LCD TALK
14. MaulMachine TALK

About that last one... Ahem. ... HOW THE FUCK IS EDITING MY OWN TALK PAGE VANDALISM?! MaulMachine 01:47, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Case "officially" closed as per Vandal Banning section, I'd think. -- Amazing 04:59, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

MaulMachine has been banned. Hopefully that's the end of this dispute, sorry I couldn't act sooner. --LibrarianBrent 14:47, 3 Feb 2006 (GMT)

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