Talk:The Crabapple Estate

Cranking out spawn?

Has Fanny had another one of her frequent "indescretions"? I just spotted this little sprog scurrying about ([43,79] if you're inclined to say hello). --Blackboard 00:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

King Crabapple

Hi, I checked with my people and King Crabapple is obviously not one of our members, nor is IT one of Elais' Alts. Sorry, but your wrong about sock-puppetry. I would appreciate it if you didn't maintain speculation as Truth. Considering the name, it seems to be more likely someone trying to yank your chain or quite possibly a synthetic impostor, aka, a falseflag agent. Good luck finding the author of that character, although my personal opinion is that you control that thing.--Lorosidiotas 10:00, 8 June 2008 (BST)

Oh, OK. Well, that's cleared up. How could we be so silly? And we were so convinced.... oh, hang on - WE DON'T TRUST YOU! Almost forgot....;-)--Crabappleslegalteam 00:36, 18 June 2008 (BST)

Yeah, thats about it... We both don't trust each other. Wouldn't it be funny if that this was really just someone who likes to see you get so absurd on the wikiliki? We don't care that they piss you off just cause the wanna see you trip-out. The zeds move in, we could declare a temporary truce to deal with the infestation. We are willing, how are you? --Lorosidiotas 10:47, 18 June 2008 (BST)

I have just been shot by one of your fellow criminals! Your truce is a typical lie! --Harald von Holzapfel 17:47, 18 June 2008 (BST)

Oh, you little bitch. Truces are only ever active if you agree to them, where is your agreement? Ok, your fair game.--Lorosidiotas 14:03, 19 June 2008 (BST)

There's no need for a Crabapple truce! You murdering psychos have killed our clients more times than you've smiled (you are, lets face it, a humourless lot!) the Crabapples have never accepted this 'war' - this has simply been an excuse fabricated by yourselves for the purpose of murdering innocents who refuse to accept your control and inhumane conditions of government - you're are murderers, invaders, and will pay for your crimes in good time! Hitler had better excuses than you fascists--Crabappleslegalteam 01:22, 23 June 2008 (BST)

Humor, tumor... you just represent twittery and your group didn't even exist anymore until i started using your place as a toilet, then you busted out your many alts...why would we sockpuppet, we have enough fun battling you legitimatly--Lorosidiotas 10:41, 25 June 2008 (BST)

As far as we know, group activity was admittedly approaching minimal.....this'll kill ya, but what actually happened was that finding out about the opportunity for the entertainment of more fights with communists in West Boundwood drew back in loads of the Estate who'd got a little bored with UD.... you've revitalised the Crabapples! Something to put a smile on your face! Well, maybe not. Anyway, talk about pots and kettles (and particularly clean kettles at that) - King Crabapple, for instance, is obviously Elias Taylor (well, actually some of the Crabapples think it actually is a Badman. Or maybe you), and all of the commie groups in Malton are just the same players in different areas - for instance, there didn't seem to be any Urban Guerillas in West Boundwood, but plenty of grafitti for them! Funny that, wasn't it? And this communist party of Malton or whoever they were..... there was no sensible reason they'd appear from whatever hole they live in for a wholesale assault on West Boundwood, was there? Zerg, baby, zerg!--Crabappleslegalteam 23:13, 26 June 2008 (BST)

I don't mind revitalization. Look at who our allies are, we ask for back up when we want it, as is the case with the CPM,that is reason enough. If you think we are all the same players, you are an idiot. BTW, we have proof of your zerging so shut yer trap before you smear us with your only strength (zerging) besides queefing (being a little bitch on the wiki).--Lorosidiotas 11:05, 28 June 2008 (BST)

Bah! Well I hope this so-called proof will be of a higher degree of quality of propaganda to that which you normally supply - you have accused us of such before, without sufficient justification! I for one grow tired of this cheap breed of slander!--St. Ethelbert Crabapple 14:16, 9 July 2008 (BST)

Don't encourage him! Well, Emelio, since you can't stop spreading libellous allegations regarding our clients (and we feel compelled to reiterate that there is no zerging as far as we know amongst the Crabapples), we could easily fill half your MAF pages with our own investigations about you lot - there were various indications of zerging by the IUSS and the MAF being the same bunch (in the same suburb, at the same time), obviously there's the same old chestnut about Elias being King Crabapple (and we're fairly sure that was conclusive) - about you being half the other commies, sometimes acting in concert....it's about time we filled some of your multiple groups' web pages with our suspicions, which are doubtless closer to the truth.....--Crabappleslegalteam 00:20, 10 July 2008 (BST)

Heh heh - well, that shut him up!--Crabappleslegalteam 00:10, 26 July 2008 (BST)

Bat Country

Dear Crabapple Family, For many months now, months uncounted but the time must be over a year, I have protected a nine-block section of Quarlesbank and West Boundwood, calling it Bat Country. This has always included the Lax Museum and the Humpfries Arms, which the Crabapple family has claimed as part of thier estate, something which I find no fault with but has resulted in a bit of a grafitti war. I recently attempted to create messages from both your family and myself declaring the buildings' dual-purpose, but this was also struck down. I have no want for ill will, and would like to work together to reach an agreement on this nonsense. Many thanks --Doc 13:25, 15 October 2007 (BST)

Dear Doctor, I'm afraid the whole "Bat Country" grafitti had us all confounded and bemused - we all thought it was some form of obscure but witty joke! Nonetheless, we have now renovated, adapted and transformed said buildings to serve the purposes of extensions to our glorious estate - we began this labourious process about 10 months ago, and I'm afraid it is all a bit late in the day for you to attempt to reclaim them now! Of course, if you wish to protect the Temple and Pleasure House, we are perfectly happy for you to do so. However, we claimed it long ago as Crabapple Property, and you did not so much as whisper a complaint! Really, sir, be reasonable! The Estate is not interested in timeshares!--St. Ethelbert Crabapple 15:37, 18 October 2007 (BST)

Reasonable?--Lorosidiotas 16:41, 8 June 2008 (BST)

Look it up in a dictionary - you might not understand the idea, mind--Crabappleslegalteam 00:38, 18 June 2008 (BST)

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You guys just fucking suck you know. I can understand how you guys say all this shit against us even though we've only extended our rights and guidelines to keep peace, but You should have no opinion in these guidelines how can you even given an opinion if none of your group members are even in the suburb. You know for a group to exist in a suburb a group has to be in the suburb, of course you haven't figured that out yet because you have your heads so deep in the sand you can even tell light from day. Fireplay259

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I have made changes to the West Boundwood page which I hope will end the edit war there. Please read the discussion page and respond before making any changes in order to facilitate discussion and compromise. Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 07:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

All this has been replied to elsewhere, gentle reader..... isn't Fireplay rude? We recommend a lovely trip to the seaside, to remove all those cares and stesses every fanatical terrorist suffers. At least he didn't use racist and homophobic abuse this time, the little fascist. Kripcat, on the other hand, is much more civilized. Nice to know at least some of the IUSS still have some decency! Crabappleslegalteam 01:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

You guys need to work on your ability to work with others, and help us out with the zeds in westboundwood instead of critisizing form afar--Lorosidiotas 21:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

You bounders need to work on your regular habit of slandering, making large numbers of assaults and demanding conformity to your communist ideals when you are the least useful group and most aggressive group in West Boundwood!--St. Ethelbert Crabapple 12:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

You guys weren't even in West Boundwood for such a long time, and your friends have been pking us just as much as Elias was hitting you, even though he is operating as himself. Do we want to draft a treaty yet? Stop all of this aggravation were all sides are guilty. At least the M@F is in West Boundwood. Most of your Krew isn't here. You also have a regular habit of slander (like saying we attack the esteemed Badmen, no such thing) so comeon, lets use this December to stop this stupidity, ey what do ya say to some drinking competitions and a little serious making up? Sorry if Elias is agressive, but he isn't the M@F, he is an individual, your group, my friend, are the most agressive spin-doctors around. So, in conclusion, lets lay down arms and talk about how to stop all this pking people have been doing. Let me remind you the last act M@F did as a whole with any form of consensus was to try to negotiate with you and giving up, since then the M@F has not operated as one entity and all the "slander" was from Elias Taylor, and your Krew. The Black Bloc is ready to draft a treaty on the subject of PKing, which we hope the rest of the M@F will consider. Please contact us with your thoughts on the subject of stopping this smelly affair, it's never to late to stop wasting time on pointless conflicts--Lorosidiotas 20:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The estate has no time for such sophistry at this time. They are too busy attempting to honour the name of their dear departed Lord. A little respect, please. St. Ethelbert Crabapple 01:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Murdered in the Pearl Arms

I was murdered, without provocation by your 'Notable Guest' Babette Bade in the Pearl Arms. This was especially despicable as I was there in order to facilitate discussion between the I.U.S.S. and the Crabapples. This will not be tolerated within the domain of West Boundwood. I hope that you approve of our retribution though disagreement on your part will not affect our response. On another matter I would like the Crabapples and all associates to note that while the MAF is an ally of the I.U.S.S. our groups are not one and the same but rather two distinct organizations and as such the I.U.S.S. possesses no measure of control over their actions nor will we share any of the responsibility for these independent activities. Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 12:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

More murder - at the hands of a communist terrorist

One of your own groups members has recently asassinated 2 members of the noble and just Crabapple Estate. Furthermore, the estate of the Lord has been vandalised with further misinformative communist propaganda by, presumably, yourselves or members of your 'allies' the MAF. Babette is indeed a notable guest - it is known that at one point at least the Lord himself (while manifest in the mortal world) held some significant feelings for her, and it is rumoured that he was hoping to breed the next heir with her. Nonetheless, she is not acting under any orders, for she is a guest rather than an employee - perhaps her anger at yourself was a result of the general disruption your group has generated in a previously well maintained district? -- St. Ethelbert Crabapple 04:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

No member of the I.U.S.S. has spraypainted abuse or threatening messages in the Pearl Arms or anywhere else. We spraypaint over your "estate" (Excepting the Pearl Arms) with either recruitment messages or barricade policy. The I.U.S.S. member who executed two of your members has been reprimanded for the unauthorized action. When the I.U.S.S. arrived in West Boundwood over 7 months ago it was in a shambles, now it has an organized barricade plan, tiny revive ques and a moderate, active survivor population. The only disruption in West Boundwood is at the hands of the Crabapples spraypainting over important information with useless messages about "Pink Temples" and "Gift Shops" and murdering those who helped to give them the freedom from the zombie menace that enabled them to do so . Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 06:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

That the IUSS have heavy handedly vandalised virtually every building in the suburb with their propaganda makes the accusation against the Crabapples barely worth mentioning. Interestingly, that the current anti Crabapple propaganda may actually be the work of a dedicated imposter would throw suspicion away from the IUSS or MAF for that matter.

Unless you have heard of outlandish concepts such as 'zerging' and 'sockpuppet', which, given that this particular character in some cases seems to be repeating propaganda blatantly previously inflicted by the IUSS/MAF in previous times, could possibly be seen as suspicious. Of course, this recent obsession with emphasis on the separation of MAF and the IUSS, for example, could be seen by some as implying that possibly the zerging may not stop there....St. Ethelbert Crabapple 01:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

As for crediting yourselves as saviours of the suburb, again, this is poppycock, and we suspect you know it. The Badmen and the Crabapples, along with several other groups, including those based around a couple of police stations and the Hospital, have done far more to maintain the area than the IUSS ever could. Graffitting a poorly designed barricade plan throughout the area may be less annoying than the rest of your propaganda, but it still gives a false impression regarding your groups importance to West Boundwood, as is doubtless your intention. We do not require your dictatorship. A quick look at the unaligned Arluc's many news entries indicates the sort of confusion your overemphasis of your groups importance has --St. Ethelbert Crabapple 11:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

What makes your graffiti any more legitimate than ours? What would you have posted up instead? Our tags are designed to promote our group just as the Badmen's and yours are. Were we to remove each groups tags we would be left with nothing but idiotic and meaningless Graffiti such as "Shhhh". As I said before the I.U.S.S. does not spraypaint threatening or abusive messages regarding the Crabapples, any such messages spraypainted are either the work of an independent individual or the MAF. The idea of the Crabapples accusing the I.U.S.S. of zerging is laughable when a simple glance at your own page shows at least four characters that are obviously run by the same person. The Badmen have done a fantastic job fighting West Boundwood, but the Crabapples have done nothing but hinder the efforts of the I.U.S.S. and the MAF, your fellow survivors. The I.U.S.S. does not believe that the barricade plan is flawed, it was designed to provide multiple non-essential free running entrances as Hospitals, Police and Fire Stations are often over barricaded when under attack which occurs frequently. That said you and indeed all West Boundwood survivors are free to suggest alterations to the plan, suggestions that in all likelihood will be accepted as long as they have some tactical or logical basis. Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 12:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Your graffiti promotes your group with more credit than any reasonable being could possibly consider you worth granting. Your group has plastered so much of West Boundwood and accompanying wiki page with IUSS related waffle it makes it look as if you run West Boundwood, which you quite obviously don’t. If the IUSS don’t spraypaint abusive and threatening messages, then their allies or perhaps sockpuppets do. As for the Crabapples, a group of players who know each other and name their characters with similar names to establish a group doeth not a zerger make. The Crabapple imposter, however, presuming our suspicions are correct, smells like a puppet made from a particularly smelly sock – probably Elias Taylor’s. The Crabapples have been far more hindered than hindering, since they and the other groups of genial fellows in the area were quite content peacefully surviving without the interference of idealistic terrorists out to establish some totalitarian regime over their heads. The lack of Crabapple presence during the early part of the recent zombie incursions are directly the result of the destabilizing of the manor by your own group, and the assaults of you allies the M@F, who, lest we forget, brought violence to the manor in the midst of the peaceful negotiations they requested (yet again). Please stop being a hypocrite when you expect us to consider your groups as anything other than a bunch of underhand pests! And you still expect us to respect your barricade plan, after you abused its role to destabalise the Crabapples? We’ve never heard such humbug! --St. Ethelbert Crabapple 16:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps the Crabapples have been hindered by the MAF, but the I.U.S.S. never provoked the Crabapples. The player you speak of may well be a sockpuppet of Elias Taylors or he/she may not either way they do not represent the I.U.S.S. in any way, as I have said on numerous occasions the MAF is a completely separate group and as such their actions do not represent us. The MAF appears to have vanished or gone underground, even if I were to find an MAF member I would caution them against such provocations, but that would be the limit of I.U.S.S. authority. The I.U.S.S. can no more control them than they can control the Crabapples. As such your continued equation of the I.U.S.S. with the MAF should stop, the only thing the I.U.S.S. has done that could be remotely considered hindering your survival efforts is spraypainting over your graffiti and even then I have stressed the importance of respecting the Pearl Arms which is more than you have done. The alteration of the Barricade plan was done without the authorization of the entirety of the I.U.S.S. and while I was away due to out of game commitments. Upon my return I immediately fixed the plan and apologized, I do not know what more you want. I would hope that the Crabapples would not sacrifice countless survivors without Free Running over a gripe they have with the I.U.S.S. concerning the number of tags we have around West Boundwood. Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 02:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

We would like you to stop trying to turn West Boundwood into a communist regime under your control, which a substantial portion of its residents are uninterested in. You may not be quite the rabble that the MAF are, but your groups actions inevitably lead us to be opposed to supporting your plans in any way, shape or form. Apologies and retractions abound, but so do further offenses. Give it up, Kripkat! Your group has made its opposition to the Crabapples merry ways obvious, so inevitably they will not support your groups efforts. Even the genial Badmen appear to be bored with you! St. Ethelbert Crabapple 01:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Very well, if that is the way you would have it our groups shall remain at odds, wasting countless AP in a feud that could have been sovled with compromise. Good Day. Kripcat - ^I.U.S.S 03:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

And good day to you too, sir! (Bah! These communist types are more persistent than Jehovan witnesses!) -- St. Ethelbert Crabapple 01:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to add that the IUSS is not totally communistic, that I however am a Socialist, not communist. Personally I heard nothing from our group ok PKing your "lord", I think its a load of propaganda and bull****. Do whatever you want but I will warn you. If any crabapple tries to kill me or anyother of the IUSS, I will personally find your so called "Lord" whom thinks he is a dicktator, excuse me ... dictator, tell him to shove it, give him the finger and blow his head off, otherwise I hope you have a nice day. Fireplay259 I.U.S.S 15:07 (EST)

YAWN. Well, you leftie fellas may sympathize with the Crabapple household then - We have been regularly attacked for weeks! From suspiciously described Pkers....

So much foul language, Fireplay. At least you restrained yourself with regards to racist and homophobic insults, on this occasion. Ah - in more civilized times the likes of you would have been put in the stocks for a week! --St. Ethelbert Crabapple 01:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Historical Question

Hello, I would like to ask if your group/family had anything to do with the Crabbe Family's history? If not, that is fine. I would just like to check before I write the family page. SuperMario24 04:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

The Crabbe family? Well, it may be more impersonation/propaganda, which has happened a lot recently, but otherwise it is almost certainly not anything to do with the Crabapples. We'll try and find out for sure --Crabappleslegalteam 11:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Very well. I'll assume they do not, and are unrelated. SuperMario24 02:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Feel free - it doesn't look like they are. Go crazy!--Crabappleslegalteam 18:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC) <math>Insert formula here</math>

The Great Suburb Group Massacre

	Group Confirmed.
	This group was confirmed active. Thank you for your reply.

Currently the suburb in question is West Boundwood but one response to this query will be all that is needed to protect your group link on all suburb pages. I know this is a random request but its for all groups regardless of size. Thank you. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 21:17, 25 July 2008 (BST)

We are indeed still active. Unlike, as far as we can tell, the I.U.S.S.--Crabappleslegalteam 00:08, 26 July 2008 (BST)