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Meant the main page. I've been doing the same for all the map talk pages. But thanks anyway, man. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Meant the main page. I've been doing the same for all the map talk pages. But thanks anyway, man. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
== The art of the Demerge ==
Demerging pages in concept is simple; first, you divert as many incoming links as possible, then transfer the information to the individual pages. Of course, this is all pretty obvious, and not what you were looking for.
Anyways, I try to follow a process when doing this:
#Open the page you want to demerge.
#Open another tab to the "what links here" page. This will be your main work page.
#Type the page name in the "find" field (ctrl+f) and go down the links list, finding and removing any incoming links.
#*Example: you find a link to <nowiki>[[Suburb Schools#Apple School|Apple School]]</nowiki>. Shorten it to <nowiki>[[Apple School]]</nowiki>
#*Be careful when shortening; if the page's name is <nowiki>[[Suburb Schools#Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]]</nowiki> and you reduce it to <nowiki>[[Apple School]]</nowiki>, you'll create a red link or disambiguation link- it must be named <nowiki>[[Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]]</nowiki>. This is mainly a problem for multi-location names, coordinate locations,  and those with "St/St." in them. If you are in doubt, just drop the "Suburb Schools#" piece.
#*Some links are written with underscores (like_this) instead of spaces. If a location is still showing up on the "what links here" list after de-linking, try replacing some of the spaces in your find field with underscores.
#there is not much you can do about user page or protected pages. If it's a matter of redirecting a link to an individual location then that's fine, but links referencing the page's creation/existence/deletion are best left alone or unlinked (In these cases I'll either leave it as a red link or replace the brackets with '''bold text''').
Once you have corrected all redirects and links, it is time to move onto the actual demerge.
#Click on one of the locations on the "What links here list".
#Copy the locationblock and information about the building from the merged page to the individual.
# Replace <nowiki>{{Locationblockmerge|</nowiki> with:
#:<nowiki>{{Locationblock|</nowiki><br>
#:<nowiki>location_type=Locationtypehere|</nowiki>
#Add a lv. 3 header (<nowiki>===header===</nowiki>) for Description, History, Barricade Plan, and Current Events if necessary.
#Put the following categories on the bottom of the page (don't use the stub template if the page is somehow acceptable):
#:<nowiki><br style="clear: both" /></nowiki>
#:<nowiki>----</nowiki>
#:<nowiki>{{locations-stub}}</nowiki>
#:<nowiki>[[Category:Building Type]]</nowiki>
#:<nowiki>[[Category:Suburb]]</nowiki>
#Tidy up any leftover junk and move onto the next location.
#Once you are done, the "what links here" page should only have a few User: or administrative pages left, if anything. Put the merged location page and any extraneous redirects up on [[A/SD]] and move on.
While most people aim at taking these on suburb by suburb, I've found that demerging by location type involves fewer variables. I recommend you find or create a page (like I did [[User:Red Hawk One/Sandbox|here]]) to store some of the common coding, as this can get extremely repetitive.
Good luck! You'll need it.
--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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Heya, just an idea for the orphaned stuff. Do you oft check the pages when they are orphan? You could be killing two birds with one stone in some situations, for example, check out the page you just unorphaned: Scarletwood Defence Force. You could have just had it speedy'd >=D -- 23:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Great Radio Messages

I understand your concern. I learned of that problem myself months ago. I decided to cut out some not-so-funny stuffs out (you see, I'm easily amused.) I've been thinking of moving longer series of radio spam to another page for a while now, but I don't have time for it. Necessity will force a change eventually, though. -- Kittithaj 17:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, but I better do it myself later. I'm the most frequent updater anyway. -- Kittithaj 17:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

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Meant the main page. I've been doing the same for all the map talk pages. But thanks anyway, man. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 23:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The art of the Demerge

Demerging pages in concept is simple; first, you divert as many incoming links as possible, then transfer the information to the individual pages. Of course, this is all pretty obvious, and not what you were looking for.

Anyways, I try to follow a process when doing this:

  1. Open the page you want to demerge.
  2. Open another tab to the "what links here" page. This will be your main work page.
  3. Type the page name in the "find" field (ctrl+f) and go down the links list, finding and removing any incoming links.
    • Example: you find a link to [[Suburb Schools#Apple School|Apple School]]. Shorten it to [[Apple School]]
    • Be careful when shortening; if the page's name is [[Suburb Schools#Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]] and you reduce it to [[Apple School]], you'll create a red link or disambiguation link- it must be named [[Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]]. This is mainly a problem for multi-location names, coordinate locations, and those with "St/St." in them. If you are in doubt, just drop the "Suburb Schools#" piece.
    • Some links are written with underscores (like_this) instead of spaces. If a location is still showing up on the "what links here" list after de-linking, try replacing some of the spaces in your find field with underscores.
  4. there is not much you can do about user page or protected pages. If it's a matter of redirecting a link to an individual location then that's fine, but links referencing the page's creation/existence/deletion are best left alone or unlinked (In these cases I'll either leave it as a red link or replace the brackets with bold text).

Once you have corrected all redirects and links, it is time to move onto the actual demerge.

  1. Click on one of the locations on the "What links here list".
  2. Copy the locationblock and information about the building from the merged page to the individual.
  3. Replace {{Locationblockmerge| with:
    {{Locationblock|
    location_type=Locationtypehere|
  4. Add a lv. 3 header (===header===) for Description, History, Barricade Plan, and Current Events if necessary.
  5. Put the following categories on the bottom of the page (don't use the stub template if the page is somehow acceptable):
    <br style="clear: both" />
    ----
    {{locations-stub}}
    [[Category:Building Type]]
    [[Category:Suburb]]
  6. Tidy up any leftover junk and move onto the next location.
  7. Once you are done, the "what links here" page should only have a few User: or administrative pages left, if anything. Put the merged location page and any extraneous redirects up on A/SD and move on.

While most people aim at taking these on suburb by suburb, I've found that demerging by location type involves fewer variables. I recommend you find or create a page (like I did here) to store some of the common coding, as this can get extremely repetitive.

Good luck! You'll need it. --~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)