User talk:Yonnua Koponen/Archive

Archive This is an archive of my talk page. An archive of talk page posts from 2009 and 2010 can be found here. 2012-2014 Sig Woes Hey that comment on Talk:Grimmies/Voting#corrections wasn't really directed at you just a general comment about my disdain of extraneous sig code. Hope you didn't take it as a personal attack. I saw you made some sig changes. I've had a gripe with the whole argument of templated sigs on admin pages since Karek brought it up after the update. I didn't think the argument held much water, TBH just as I thought the push to delete {{Nosubst}} as a "horrible hack" was a farce. Templated sigs are fine. They rarely break anything and would break things even more rarely if the were no "entire page" inclusions on admin pages. ~ 17:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC) Nah, I didn't, I just thought I'd trim the code a bit, as I had lots of useless links in there and I hadn't edited it in over a year. It caused massive wiki lag though, so that's always good.--Yonnua Koponen Talk | Contribs 17:07, 27 July 2011 (BST) lern2wiki Vapor Dat wuz all DDR, not me. ~ 15:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC) Yes. You have swapped names with the artist formerly known as DDR.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:02, 26 July 2011 (BST) Hm? I heard from Babs you were planning a supposedly Malton Manhunt event involving seeds. What'cha up to that's so secret that not even me, the spokesperson for the Malton Manhunt doesn't seem to know about? ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:04, 5 August 2011 (BST) I see that this message is now obsolete as I just checked my email. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:57, 5 August 2011 (BST) You back? I was just beserkered. --"Workshed" 17:24, 29 August 2011 (BST) DIL You back? I was just beserkered. --"Workshed" 17:23, 29 August 2011 (BST) I FUCKING HATED THAT BESERKER GUY -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 04:47, 30 August 2011 (BST) You guys getting your asses handed to you by Berserkas? That's hilarious. I had a minor ceasefire with him back when the game went into perma-death mode. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:10, 30 August 2011 (BST) Dude I was fucking level 1! -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 05:40, 30 August 2011 (BST) That's alright. We all had our sad moments. Heck, A Lumberjack placed a shack over a location I was hoping to erect a Town Hall on in the future! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 05:43, 30 August 2011 (BST) I killed some dude yesterday. Fun stuff.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:30, 30 August 2011 (BST) Curses! Foiled again! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:56, 11 August 2011 (BST) Damn straight. Of course, when I tried to archive it, it made my archive exceed the 300KB limit, so I had to make a new one. >.> --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:58, 11 August 2011 (BST) Bitter-sweet victory!       18:24, 11 August 2011 (BST) Answer Since you have not checked back to the forum since you posted, I thought I would let you know here that the answer is yes. -- Albert Schwan  03:03, Saturday 13 August 2011 I did check back, I just haven't received word from a couple of other seeds as of yet. If I don't hear anything from them by wednesday, I'll probably post some initial stuff then.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:08, 13 August 2011 (BST) Goggles I laughed when I saw your Userpage. Don't understand what I'm saying? Well, why don't you use this thing here to see the secret contents? ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 06:53, 19 August 2011 (BST) why don't you just tell me what's on it?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:24, 19 August 2011 (BST) LOLD -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 10:32, 19 August 2011 (BST) MINE IS ALSO LOL -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 10:42, 19 August 2011 (BST) For the culprit, you should really take a peak at mine. They actually signed their work at the bottom of my page! xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:34, 19 August 2011 (BST) You are all hilarious. --"Workshed" 17:57, 19 August 2011 (BST) lol people have way too much time on their hands. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:01, 19 August 2011 (BST) Thad, your page looks plain awesome. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:58, 19 August 2011 (BST) Your page looks nice too, Ross. $50 saying it's DDR's work all around. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:10, 19 August 2011 (BST) Neet --hagnat 18:49, 19 August 2011 (BST) Oh, um...whatever ya all do, don't look at A/VB. :P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:56, 19 August 2011 (BST) Someone must be having some small issues out there... --hagnat 20:33, 19 August 2011 (BST) I don't know much about the dicks, but it's definitely wasn't me. Hell, i just cleaned my page of 'em. I'm assuming it's someone old 'cause they're still calling SysOps "Mods". --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:35, 19 August 2011 (BST) Cute. I have already been leaving secret messages on SA's old page and Axe Hack's page regardless of this Goggles thing. And other places, too, I suspect. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:42, 19 August 2011 (BST) Your page looks nice too, Gnomey. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:50, 19 August 2011 (BST) It does. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:54, 19 August 2011 (BST) Im very proud of Raphael. --"Workshed" 21:29, 19 August 2011 (BST) Damn it all y'all are gonna make me move to a PC to find out what the hell is going on. ~ 22:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC) Your page is looking good too, Vapor. Now as for who's using this to troll the entire damn wiki...I'm assuming it's either Michaleson, Mis, or Harrison. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:46, 19 August 2011 (BST) Still haven't got to a computer so couldn't comment but I'll probably be able to tell if Mis is up to some shenanigans. If the grammar and spelling is not atrocious then you can probably can count SH out. ~ 23:33, 19 August 2011 (UTC) I may have provoked some of the content on your page. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:49, 19 August 2011 (BST) Looks like this Goggles thing doesn't work with newer versions of FF or Chrome. Says "You Need Firefox". I guess I'll never know what I'm missing. ~ 23:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC) Hm? That can't be right. I'm using the newest version of FireFox right now. I got the bookmark link from Michaleson yesterday too. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:27, 20 August 2011 (BST) Another thing...Who's the one that keeps screwing around on my page with Goggles to be able to get my userpage up on the Top 20 Sites list on Goggles?! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:33, 20 August 2011 (BST) Dunno something's borked. May be the ad blocker plugin I have installed. Honestly if its just pictures of cocks then I don't care. ~ 00:48, 20 August 2011 (UTC) Well the stuff was funny until someone erased all the old stuff and started drawing cocks... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:53, 20 August 2011 (BST) mine has too many penis now : ( hahahahahaahah check out the scientology home page. it's exactly what i figured it would be. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 01:44, 20 August 2011 (BST) Based simply on comparative sizes, I blame Spiderzed. 01:47, 20 August 2011 (BST) Yonnuas penis is yellow.... rare disease? -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 01:56, 20 August 2011 (BST) It's interesting to see that Mis's page hasn't been trolled yet. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:18, 20 August 2011 (BST) I feel left out. :( 02:22, 20 August 2011 (BST) It looks like the bookmark link on Goggles's page has been fixed, Vapor. Now's your chance to check out all the outside trolling that's being done. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:50, 20 August 2011 (BST) Pass. Enjoy yer penis pictures, boyos. ~ 02:05, 20 August 2011 (UTC) Judging from the stuff on Spiderzed's page, I think we can deduce the trolls to being someone from one of the two Cobras in which Spiderzed doesn't lead. That person also seems to have an alt in The Dead. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 06:23, 20 August 2011 (BST) Lol gayopean. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 07:48, 20 August 2011 (BST) I find it amusing how someone got so butthurt as to doodle on the whole page with such crude tools. -- Spiderzed█ 19:55, 21 August 2011 (BST) logs on to hotmail after 4 days without internet* Has 58 email notifications from Urban dead. :/ --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:13, 24 August 2011 (BST) you have won Congratulations, You suck... UDWiki has voted. Yonnua Koponen is the winner of The Invasion of Privacy Award, Most Humorless Humourless Unfunny, The Propaganda Minister Award and Biggest Attention Whore. --User:Sexualharrison17:31, 21 August 2011 (bst) Dealt in Lead...1 Is back. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 09:34, 27 August 2011 (BST) And so am I.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:02, 27 August 2011 (BST) You Have Mail! Check your email YoKo. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   19:23, 1 September 2011 (BST) MMI invites MMI invites have been sent to your account on my group's forum page. I can post them to the event discussion page if you wish but it seemed like you were trying to keep them confidential, so I thought a non-public channel best. -- Albert Schwan  22:09, Thursday 1 September 2011 Thanks. remember, you can always use the email this user function if you enable it. :P--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:52, 1 September 2011 (BST) Demotion You poor thing. I can't demote you but how about a ban :P? -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 20:26, 3 September 2011 (BST) I'm tempted to repeatedly ban and unban boxy until he demotes me, but I'm not too bothered. It just pisses me off that recently, crats have been abusing their powers by refusing demotions.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:44, 3 September 2011 (BST) You can start by pulling an SA. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:53, 3 September 2011 (BST) hilarious jokes about how you should be thrown out of office and burned alive aside, yeah it is kinda weird how they are holding you hostage. i mean what are they going to do? decide NOT to let you go? force you to serve the wiki against your will until they are ready to let you go? its all sort of funny really.--Alice Gravesend 20:54, 3 September 2011 (BST) Hey, I won't stop you if you choose to do so. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 20:58, 3 September 2011 (BST) I think Boxy's just playing it more safe than necessary for some reason. It really shouldn't be necessary for Rev to give his approval in order for your your demotion to be carried out. ~ 21:31, 3 September 2011 (UTC) Actually, I think he was just doing it to piss me off. he's demoted users before without even trying to consult the other crat, and he even did it once without checking to see if the sysop was sure.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:32, 3 September 2011 (BST) And why exactly would I be trying to piss you off? -- boxy 22:46, 3 September 2011 (BST) No idea, but I can't think of another reason why you would. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:47, 3 September 2011 (BST) MMI dates I see the main event is in march. Looks like Axe wants to do another ahmh in december. So are you thinking megaman in jan and pacman in feb? Oh and the MMI page has some conflicting info about number of players moving on from the qualifyers. You mention 4 in one place and 3 at another. Either way, probably not enough time to hold enough qualifyers before march if only one moves forward from each. ~ 01:57, 9 September 2011 (UTC) Jan and Feb are probably right. The reason the info is conflicting is that the number of seeds keeps changing. Basically, the number of contestants will be twice the number of seeds, and the non-seeds will be split evenly between invites and qualifiers. Mega-Man and Pacman are going to be the only two qualifier events, but the other qualifyign contestants might get there by being something like second in Pacman, or something like that.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:34, 9 September 2011 (BST) Yeah I get that. So I guess the question is if there are 3 invites and 4 qualified or 4 invites and 3 qualified. If 4 qualified, there's going to need to be 2 per qualifying event to move forward. ~ 15:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC) There'll be more qualified than invited. For now, we'll just run the events and see how it goes, but it could be two per event or one from one, three from another. Don't really know yet.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:35, 9 September 2011 (BST) YoKo, I was talking to Soph about this and I think I might have persuaded her to join up. However, I hate pissing you about, forcing you to keep changing the number of seeds, so how about you give her my spot, and I'll work my way through the qualifyers? As a previous champion, she's earned her green jacket and should be here by rights. Besides, the human element drama of me, the nearly man of the events overcoming the odds to win the thing outright will push the DVD sales of the event through the fucking roof. Think of the merchandise potential, you'll be rolling in moolah. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   16:43, 9 September 2011 (BST) If Soph wants a spot, it's hers, because she was originally the top seed. It's your choice whether you return as the seventh seed or whether you want to try and qualify (bear in mind that even if you aren't seeded, you could well be invited by the seeds anyway).--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:19, 9 September 2011 (BST) Qualify, all the way baby. This will be me entering the Royal Rumble at number 1, winning the fucker, and then going on to pwn you all at WrestleMania. Blindfolded. Doo eeet. ~ Kempy “YaketyYak” | ◆◆◆ | CAPD |   21:24, 9 September 2011 (BST) Okey dokes then. As soon as I have confirmation from Soph, I'll swap her in to the seventh seed spot. Good luck in the MMI Opens.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:57, 9 September 2011 (BST) Yeh he twisted my arm, the plonker... sign me up then. Do I have to add me name somewhere? --Sophie ◆◆◆ CAPD 06:19, 10 September 2011 (BST) Nah, I'll slap you on the seeds page.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:16, 10 September 2011 (BST) So...are you still thinking Jan and Feb for the two qualifying rounds? AHMH5 goes until Jan 2nd. Megamn will likely be only a day or two tops before everyone is eliminated. Maybe Pacman can be late Jan or early Feb. ~ 21:49, 25 October 2011 (UTC) If ya all want, we can put AHMH5 as a qualifier too. The top ranking non-seed/non-invite contestant in AHMH5 gets automatically selected to participate in the MMI. Or something like that. Course it's your event. I'll let you decide on that. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:06, 25 October 2011 (BST) I think we may only need two qualified contestants after the invites have been chosen. Probably not a need for a third qualifying event but that's Yon's call I think. ~ 22:10, 25 October 2011 (UTC) There will only be two "qualifying events", per se. If we feel that more people need to join after those, then I'll start looking at who won RO2 and AHMH5. Realistically, Pacmanhunt can start a week after Megaman ends, just to give people time to restock and move (either with a new alt or the same one). I'm thinking MMH will be earlyish Jan (most likely the week of the 17th) and we'll start pacmanhunt about a week later. Sound good?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:34, 25 October 2011 (BST) Issues If you don't mind me asking I'd like to know what personal stakes you have in the case involving Adrienne (Izumi). You seem particularly hell-bent on making sure neither she nor anyone affiliated with her has anything to do with your little online paradise here and what I want to know is why. Did you two ever take personal shots at each other, did she mess with your stuff or are you simply a misguided crusader of e-justice? Because something sure has you determined. Sage of Winds 19:11, 25 September 2011 (BST) Nope, only ever talked to you once before now, Izumi. I just want to make sure people breaking the rules are held to account for that. You got banned for getting completely retarded and out of hand because you were on a KOS list for helping PKers, and, instead of following the easily understandable protocol to get off the list, you decided to vandalise the wiki. Not to mention the fact that nobody has ever failed to be taken off the dulston alliance black list if they ask for their case to be considered. Basically, Izumi, you're retarded and have vandalised the wiki beyond belief, now get over it and leave. Also I'm Grim.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:07, 25 September 2011 (BST) Lies! How can you be Grim, when I clearly am? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 10:31, 28 September 2011 (BST) Arbitration DDR and I have both accepted you. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:56, 28 September 2011 (BST) Government Order. Sound cool bro? Hey random dude, need a UrbanDead players opinion for this one, can you listen to a big group idea I have? Defender Of Weak 00:11, 30 September 2011 (BST) Sure. Post it here.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:40, 30 September 2011 (BST) See DoW's talk page. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:38, 1 October 2011 (BST) SoS vs PoD Everything points to the conclusion that they aren't the same person. IP data does not match. Not even the same region. Check the contribs and you'll find that at the exact time PoD was stirring up drama on Arbie's, SoS was quietly updating building statuses. I'd drop it, or at the least don't bring it up on A/VB. It isn't adding anything constructive to the case. ~ 22:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC) it's almost like you've been taking anything I said since I resigned as sysop seriously... ;) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:17, 29 October 2011 (BST) Just knock it off, or leave it at least to the talk page. -- Spiderzed█ 01:10, 29 October 2011 (BST) He's just using the wiki for laughs, give him a break. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 15:54, 2 November 2011 (UTC) Rare sighting of Thadeous Oakley! How are you doing?!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:39, 2 November 2011 (UTC) Me Sorry, wasn't online for three days. Did the red army manage to kill anyone else? --Like Moss and The Dude..... 20:38, 30 October 2011 (UTC) If by "the red army" you mean me, then yes. Hack also finished somebody who I got to 2hp. None of the others have even done anything.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:40, 30 October 2011 (UTC) Yuu still seem to have a better track record than the Jazzberries ^^ --☾ Sailor ♥ Moon ^^ 20:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC) They actually tried to kill me today but I escaped.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:46, 30 October 2011 (UTC) As zombies then? All jazzberries in my contacts are dead :/ --☾ Sailor ♥ Moon ^^ 20:49, 30 October 2011 (UTC) Hey Sailor. I did say hello in game. --Like Moss and The Dude..... 20:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC) Hey Ross, I saw ^^ Thank yuu for yuur good luck wishes ♥ They seem to have werked like a charm :D --☾ Sailor ♥ Moon ^^ 20:57, 30 October 2011 (UTC) Yeah, as zombies.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:23, 30 October 2011 (UTC) Orphaned Images File:MMIIogo.png which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A Helpful Little Bot 11:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC) File:MMImega.png which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A Helpful Little Bot 11:53, 25 November 2011 (UTC) You will always be remembered I didn't know you quit using the wiki, but in any case, you will always be remembered as a helpful and kind person. Thank you for everything. --TheBardofOld 01:24, 15 April 2012 (BST) Holiday? *falls down on the floor rolling and laughing his ass off* Bard, Yon didn't take a holiday. Yon rage quit for not liking the results of a misconduct case he bought up against exactly half the SysOps team for permabanning a text rapist. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:58, 15 April 2012 (BST) I...didn't know that. --TheBardofOld 02:03, 15 April 2012 (BST) fuck yon fuck him in his stupid asshole.--User:Sexualharrison05:05, 15 April 2012 I wasn't there for it but I was incredibly dissapointed to see the aftermath and tbh I think his dummy spit, while a bit left field, was pretty apt from someone feeling like all the rules he's worked for had just been thrown out the window for one little and unjust moment. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 05:28, 15 April 2012 (BST) Yon was the quenticential wikilawyer, which isn't surprising given his chosen profession. But in my opinion it gave him a narrow view of what was right or wrong or acceptable to the community. To him, making the judgment call was unjustified and bending the rules. To me, I was just doing right by the community. I will say I acted rather unprofessionally during the misconduct case. We both did. And that may or may not have swayed his decision to leave. If I could go back and do it over again, I would have conducted myself more professionally during the misconduct case. The case deserved better than that from me and so did Yon. ~ 05:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC) Come back Or I'll deface your userpage with text rape. I'll be roleplaying in detail as David Cameron, just so you know. Trust me, you'll never be able to look at him the same way! -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 12:29, 14 December 2012 (UTC) But I don't want you to be illegally permabanned and then strung up while the banners protect themselves against all logic... A ZOMBIE ANT 12:34, 14 December 2012 (UTC) They wouldn't dare to do it anyway, I'd just get away with an escalation, consistency be damned.--Thadeous Oakley Talk 12:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC) HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAH--User:Sexualharrison14:11, 14 December 2012 What SH said. :) --Shortround }.{ My Contributions 15:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Hey Chicken Little Way to spoil any hope that you'd learned a thing or two about not overreacting in your time as Shortround. Do you get some sort of twisted pleasure from going full conspiracy theory every time you disagree with something not being enforced? Up until I read through your nonsense on Bob's talk page I was actually glad you were back and providing reasoned discussion. Way to blow that one. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 05:15, 10 April 2013 (BST) Not a conspiracy theory, just you guys being completely hypocritical and me having to point it out yet again.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:27, 10 April 2013 (BST) It's not hypocrisy just because you don't understand liability on the internet. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 11:35, 10 April 2013 (BST) I'm a lawyer working in the country where the server is. I understand this much better than you do, but I appreciate the attempts to dodge what you did.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:46, 10 April 2013 (BST) Clearly not since you don't understand how the relationship between developer and site host tends to work in regards to liability. The unfortunately reality is that it's not always stringent to what is sue-able but what is threaten-able. In many cases all it takes is a threat and a link to something that seems legitimately abusive, which is what the case you keep citing involved. It's a legalish relationship, not a legal one and if you were as familiar with law as you claim to be I'd imagine you'd be a lot better at seeing lines of distinction. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 12:01, 10 April 2013 (BST) "It may not be legally enforceable, but they can threaten him with it and that means we need to enforce it legally without anybody threatening anything."--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:05, 10 April 2013 (BST) No, it means we have to be overly strict on things that can be considered crossing the specific line of enabling/encouraging prohibited behavior as opposed to being associated with it. It's the same reason we are required to delete copyrighted content be it fair use or not once a complaint is raised. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 12:26, 10 April 2013 (BST) "once a complaint is raised"--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:37, 10 April 2013 (BST) yon make up your mind. because you have said that you are a law STUDENT and have not passed the bar or whatever counts for the test for lawyers in whatever shit place you live. so what it is? are you a real lawyer now or just pretend to be one. you sucked at playing this game, you sucked even worse as a sysop on this wiki. in fact the only time you didn't suck is when you pretended to be someone else. why not rage quit again and come back as shortround and have people actually like talking with you and respect what you say. fucking liar get your story straight..--User:Sexualharrison14:31, 10 April 2013 <3 --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:23, 10 April 2013 (BST) As you're here Say something about Thatcher! --Rosslessness 09:25, 10 April 2013 (BST) She was a terrible politician, now she's dead. Condolences to her family on both counts.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:27, 10 April 2013 (BST) Thanks. --Rosslessness 11:35, 10 April 2013 (BST) Would you stand one of your players up in the game so I can hunt and kill interview you?-- 16:23, 10 April 2013 (BST) policy garbage r u still a mod? i'm wondering if i can swear on my group's wiki page? Jack S13 T! PC 20:23, 28 June 2013 (BST) He's not a sysop any longer (though he's still around occasionally), and it's perfectly fine to cuss or say whatever you want on your group page or talk pages. We have some restrictions against hate speech or extreme cases along those lines, but nothing against swearing, certainly. —Aichon— 21:15, 28 June 2013 (BST) I'm always here. Always watching.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:27, 28 June 2013 (BST) fantastic policy, also, somewhat creepy statement form Yonnua. Thank you folks. Jack S13 T! PC 21:21, 29 June 2013 (BST) GSGM Volunteering Hello Yonnua Koponen, and thanks again for volunteering to help out with the GSGM 2013! The main phase of this year's GSGM is just beginning, which means there are a number of tasks for volunteers to help out with. These include adding information to suburb News sections and contacting groups on their talk pages, as well as some other items. Feel free to check out our volunteer page for all the details. Have a great day! Bob Moncrief EBD•W! 13:55, 19 October 2013 (BST) 2011 For fuck's sake Why is Britain turning into a warzone Lewis? I was looking forward to the big game at Wembley this Wednesday, now it's cancelled! But I guess you have bigger problems judging by the amount of lowlife scum that plagues the streets. Hoping the boys in blue kick their ass really, royally good. Seriously, what is the world coming too?-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 14:51, 9 August 2011 (BST) It will all be over by friday, don't worry. --Rosslessness 16:33, 9 August 2011 (BST) This is all happening because your man Clegg is too busy sticking his head up Cameron's arse to deal with the country.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:53, 9 August 2011 (BST) And here I was thinking it was a bunch of tossers robbing their own workplaces, turning up on the BBC confessing their looting and posing on twitter with the stuff they'd looted. The arab spring it aint. --Rosslessness 18:45, 9 August 2011 (BST) I thought the hack on BlackBerry was a nice touch. Srsly though one dead guy shouldn't have sparked this much outrage. Its like half of London woke up on their period on Friday. Just need to wait five days for PMS to subside. ~ 18:59, 9 August 2011 (UTC) Tottenham was that, the rest is opportunistic thuggery. Tonight with 3x the police and greater violence the cycle will be broken. Or London will arise as one with brooms. --Rosslessness 19:22, 9 August 2011 (BST) If the government were competent, this would not be happening.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:40, 9 August 2011 (BST) Le terme "nettoyer au Kärcher" est le terme qui s'impose, parce qu'il faut nettoyer cela. -- Spiderzed█ 19:43, 9 August 2011 (BST) post hoc, ergo propta hoc.--Rosslessness 19:46, 9 August 2011 (BST) I don't think even if the government was perfect they would have been able to anticipate unrest at this scale or even been able ot stop it even if they thought it was going to happen and had time to prepare. -- Rahrah has a signature that won't become obsolete. 20:41, 9 August 2011 (BST) Despite the fact that they've pretty much intentionally stirred up the hornet's nest with the anarchists over the past year? You'll notice that there were no major anarchist problems under the labour government. This is entirely a governmental problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:07, 9 August 2011 (BST) I echo Ross and Rory's sentiment. It's just the vermin that's plundering for personal gain and "amusement", hiding behind the facade of some guy getting killed (probably for good reason) by the police. You can't hold the government responsible, not directly anyway, since it started out as a problem of the local London police. Now it's spiraled out of control so much the government is acting, and their actions are too fresh to be really worth judging right now, though I'd say sending more police seems adequate is a good enough reaction for now by David. Maybe after everything is done they might wanna put some more attention towards the local slums of England, which is where the problems seem to originate out. I don't see how Tory is immediately to blame, since those same slums have been there the past ten years. Finally, I like to again point out that the protesters aren't very political inclined anyway. They are just anti-goverment, anti-police, anti-established order, not necessary anti-Tory. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:30, 9 August 2011 (BST) Yeah, no, sorry, you're wrong.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:45, 9 August 2011 (BST) and why's that? -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:47, 9 August 2011 (BST) Pretty much everything you said is just factually wrong. The majority of the problem is not random opportunistic looters, it's organised groups of anarchists. The government had a massive opportunity to deal with this beforehand, and by not acting until now, they have failed. It's also the government that is to blame for pissing off the anarchist groups with nearly every decision they've made since they came in to power. The problem also isn't coming from "the local slums", it's coming from outside of the large cities, which is where many of the anarchists are surfacing from. It is absolutely because of the government that this has become such a problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:54, 9 August 2011 (BST) The disappointing thing is that many are stealing because they can. I mean, there's a video somewhere of a pakistani guy that was beat up. An black guy helps him up and you think he's taking him to the hospital. Meanwhile, others have gathered and while the guy is being helped up, another guy goes through his backpack, and steals something from him. The black guy just gives the "fuck it" look and walks away, while the other men head off with the thief. It's just an example of bad morals resulting from chaos and violence and shows you how shitty of a future current generations are heading to. --TheBardofAwesome 22:12, 9 August 2011 (BST) Something goes wrong -> Blame young people.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:17, 9 August 2011 (BST) It's part of that angst/rebellion shit that most "young people" go through. --TheBardofAwesome 22:20, 9 August 2011 (BST) Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers. (Aristophanes, 446–386 BC) -- Spiderzed█ 22:21, 9 August 2011 (BST) Most of the people doing this are older than 30.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:29, 9 August 2011 (BST) I don't buy that. How can it be solely anarchists when what we see on the streets has nothing to do with an ideology? Maybe on the first day there were some demonstrations, but it's been looting and vandalism ever since. Second, how can it be from outside the large cities, when it's the same large cities that are on fire? Seriously, everything points out that it originates from within the cities itself, and mostly from the bad parts of town. I'm not seeing large group of youth taking the train from the countryside every night. I really wouldn't know about actions of the government against anarchists and how it relates to this mess. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 22:32, 9 August 2011 (BST) Sorry, but then you know absolutely nothing about what's going on. This has been almost entirely non-local anarchists causing problems. It has everything to do with the anarchists raging at the police and government and absolutely nothing to do with youths. Living in a big city that has previously had massive riots, where it was a local issue which led to external anarchists coming in and looting and causing mayhem, I know what's happening. It has nothing to do with angry youths.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:42, 9 August 2011 (BST) I'm just going by what I'm reading and seeing from every major news-source. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:18, 10 August 2011 (BST) I'm just going by what's happening in real life.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:36, 10 August 2011 (BST) That wasn't a sneer towards you but a statement. I obviously don't live in the UK, so I'm basing my opinion on that, not on first-hand experience. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 17:06, 10 August 2011 (BST) I'm not trying to be rude either. :/ Just tired of everybody blaming the wrong people for this. :p Friends again?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:53, 10 August 2011 (BST) In retrospect, I'm on the same level as Thadeous. I don't live in the UK and since I only know about the rioting from youtube videos and the news, I was misinformed. I'm sorry for my stupidity Yonnua. Friends? --TheBardofAwesome 20:03, 10 August 2011 (BST) I don't like you. Leave.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:21, 10 August 2011 (BST) <3 <3. I still ain't convinced though, although I'm sure we can continue this civil discussion. (I'll be back in two days after a short trip) -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:45, 10 August 2011 (BST) FUCK THA POLICE FUCK FUCK FUCK THA POLICE -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 23:49, 9 August 2011 (BST) +1, Thad fails +2        00:07, 10 August 2011 (BST) What are you talking about?-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:18, 10 August 2011 (BST) Why not continue this discussion on my talk page? Its easier to read, and isnt ridiculously tiny. --Rosslessness 08:11, 10 August 2011 (BST) that's what she said.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:53, 10 August 2011 (BST) i bet you hear that all the time yon--User:Sexualharrison21:40, 10 August 2011 (bst) In all fairness, Ross's right :P. Any comment with more than two replies ends in a clusterfuck.-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:45, 10 August 2011 (BST) dw, there probably won't be too many more long conversations on this talk page. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:24, 10 August 2011 (BST) Ross' you fool. For goodness sakes. --Rosslessness 22:28, 10 August 2011 (BST) I'm just here to make this long conversation even longer. I think I would have succeeded if my sig still had all those advertisements on it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:51, 10 August 2011 (BST) semi-colon time!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22 53, 10 August 2011 (BST) I now have this odd feeling of deja vu... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:58, 10 August 2011 (BST) You raise an excellent point axe hack. Here, have a cookie.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:53, 10 August 2011 (BST) A FREE COOKIE Yonn has given Axe Hack a cookie for noticing stuff and junk .--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:53, 10 August 2011 (BST) *Takes the cookie* Can I get pizza with that? Oh, and maybe a large Pepsi? And yes, I would also like fries with that. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:34, 11 August 2011 (BST) No. Now stop harassing me or I'll text-wall this shit. You wouldn't like text-walls at this page width. >:D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:38, 11 August 2011 (BST) Last year was my page we were trying to break. This year, it shall be your page. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:50, 11 August 2011 (BST) Don't worry, if worst comes to worst, I still have that message at the top of my page reserving the right to replace sigs with blank ones. :) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:07, 11 August 2011 (BST) We're still gonna go break this page. ;P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:13, 11 August 2011 (BST) I'd like to see you try....--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:18, 11 August 2011 (BST) You all failed at breaking my page 'cause I didn't specify the width in the coding. But your page, Yon. You have a width specified. Your page just might be easier to break than mine. And this last sentence here is to add even more length to my comment, so just ignore this last sentence that I'm adding right here. OK, I lied. This is the last sentence. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:26, 11 August 2011 (BST) It'll just disappear outside the confines of the box.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:54, 11 August 2011 (BST) We'll break something eventually. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:01, 11 August 2011 (BST) The only thing that shall be broken is you, you weak little man!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 02:02, 11 August 2011 (BST) We'll see who's weak when I open up an Asian can of whoop-ass on ya! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:14, 11 August 2011 (BST) Its only a matter of time. Here's a template to start the clock! Punctuality This user or group believe(s) in being on time. The current time is 05:48 on Sunday, December 22, 2024 (UTC)        03:28, 11 August 2011 (BST) Oh my god, we made the sideways scroll-bars appear! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:39, 11 August 2011 (BST) It's times like this when I'm glad Yon's talk doesn't work on all browsers. ~ 04:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC) We're still gonna attempt to break his page. ;P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 04:16, 11 August 2011 (BST) Uuuuuuuuggghhh this is horrible... -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 07:50, 11 August 2011 (BST) What browser are you using Vapor? O.o Because if it's internet explorer, then it deserves to be broken.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 10:46, 11 August 2011 (BST) Dolphin. There are no scroll bars. It's no big deal. There are plent of things on the wiki that don't work well on my mobiles. Shame on you for thinking I would use IE, though. ~ 15:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC) Oh, I'm aware of mobile browser issues with it, I just don't care about them. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:15, 11 August 2011 (BST) I read from an unreliable, false and hilarious source that IE users have lower IQs. Completely logical, no? -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 10:56, 11 August 2011 (BST) Obvo. My IQ went up 100 points when I started using chrome.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:02, 11 August 2011 (BST) So... You're IQ is 110 then? Oh fucking SNAP! I was gonna go for a "thad must still be using IE" joke but my heart wasn't in it and this one was better! Zingtastic RIGHT? -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 11:33, 11 August 2011 (BST) I know what would give this page a run for its money! Substituting my old userpage with that huge image i used for a border on here. But then I'd feel like I'm cheating.. Axehack can do it then! :D       12:28, 11 August 2011 (BST) No, bro, I said I gained 100, not lost 100. It's 310 now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:40, 11 August 2011 (BST) ...well played. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 14:11, 11 August 2011 (BST) Indeed.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:55, 11 August 2011 (BST) Why oh why did we reset the colon count? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:42, 11 August 2011 (BST) Just wait for what's about to happen...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:43, 11 August 2011 (BST) Person who doesn't know how to move John clutch 01:32, 18 June 2011 (BST) thanks. I had know idea how to move it, LOL Irony -- RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:42, 25 February 2011 (UTC) First! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC) Still Alive --Thadeous Oakley Talk 16:58, 25 February 2011 (UTC) 4th and its not july --People's Commissar Hagnat [talk] [wcdz] 19:00, 25 February 2011 (UTC) Betaville Hey. Do you by any chance remember a very old suggestion called 'Betaville'?--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Subsist (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. Vaguely. Why?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC) I got it for him. Only had to search through two years of DS history. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC) Good man, Ross.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:46, 1 March 2011 (UTC) So much idiocy I saw. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:48, 1 March 2011 (UTC) yeahyeahyeah But what is there to have a picture of? There's not really much which encapsulates me... -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose YET ANOTHER Manhunt. 23:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC) Axe Hack's Manhunt 4 This is a reminder to you and all the other contestants that AHMH4 begins in exactly one week. Please be in the playing area before the competition begins. Good luck, and happy hunting! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 01:24, 13 March 2011 (UTC) Hello there Sorry for being so late in telling, but thank you for restoring the content on my page last year. Somebody must not like me...bummer. Oh well...can't revive 'em all. --TheBardofAwesome 06:06, 27 March 2011 (BST) ? about VB why is the users i add a different color red that everybody else? i'm using the same code?-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:11 1 April 2011 (UTC) You've clicked on the users page, so it's like the purple for links to a real page. Get it?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:11, 1 April 2011 (BST) ahh ha! smacks head.-- The preceding signed comment was added by these amazing looking bitch 14:13 1 April 2011 (UTC) RedRum Nope, never idled in their channel, never visit, not a member. :P --Karekmaps?! 23:12, 2 April 2011 (BST) Ah well, fair enough. I've had it from him and Mis before, and he was on IRC during the recent devilash drama where they were all talking as the "lols" were going on, so I thought I might as well check.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:13, 2 April 2011 (BST) Understandable but that's not really my style. --Karekmaps?! 23:15, 2 April 2011 (BST) DHPD/The Dead Thanks for reverting the vandalism to our page overnight. We seem to have woken up the Dead so I expect there may well be more in future :( but we'll see how it pans out before getting too excited! Purple Cat ~ DHPD 09:30, 3 April 2011 (BST) Ditto to that - many thanks Yonnua Sanpedro 05:31, 4 April 2011 (BST) A/VB/B I'd actually already reported them above :p--Karekmaps?! 23:06, 11 April 2011 (BST) i know, that's why I changed my comment to done after I notice that. ;P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:18, 12 April 2011 (BST) I like the bots revamp, btw, but making it smaller seems slightly redundant considering it doesn't show on the individual archive pages, which is where Recent changes takes you. (Not that I disapprove of making it smaller)--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:57, 12 April 2011 (BST) Maybe, but then again maybe someday the system will change again to something else that's more reasonable but wasn't done due to expected laziness and a theory that didn't pan out.--Karekmaps?! 03:17, 12 April 2011 (BST) Bad faith You seem to be editing in bad faith, since you're removing content and removing my comments requesting discussion on the issue. Please understand that this is a wiki and that you do not have absolute authority over the content here. Sincerely, I WARNED YOU ABOUT TEMPLATES BRO, Esq. --甘いノーム愛感覚的の私の型板!!! 01:23, 20 April 2011 (BST) umad?--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 01:26, 20 April 2011 (BST) "" --عبد الريحم بن حسين بن عبد الرحمن العراقي المصري‎ 01:45, 20 April 2011 (BST) Something HonoUrable WIKI LAW This user or group enforces Wikilaw, the highest law in the land. We had a vote, and decided that you deserved the right to wear this template proudly at the top of your userpage. We don't give people sugh an honor lightly, but I personally recommended you to the Something Awful Forums Awards and Prizes department after viewing your valiant defense of this wiki against vandalism. Congratulations, and keep up the great work.--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Retarded things go here --> 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 01:38, 20 April 2011 (BST) It's already on my templates page, but thanks anyway.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 01:39, 20 April 2011 (BST) That's all well and good, but the Something Awful Forums Awards and Prizes department now authorizes you to use it on your actual user page. You're welcome!--ебут этом гомосексуальные земля́, ebut ėtom gomoseksual'nye zemlя́ ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Retarded things go here --> 2 3 4 User:MisterGame 01:42, 20 April 2011 (BST) xxxxxD I've never been so happy. :,D --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 01:43, 20 April 2011 (BST) Wiki update An answer to your question.--The General T Sys U! P! F! 13:42, 21 April 2011 (BST) Brit vs Aus sysops “ (P.s. Do Brit sysops now outnumber Aus ones?) ” —Yonnua Koponen 11:52, 20 April 2011 (BST) As far as I know, we currently have 3 Australian sysops: myself, boxy, and DDR. Excluding Kevan and Urbandead (), how many Brits do we have? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 15:48, 27 April 2011 (BST) Myself and Ross are English, Cheese is scots iirc, so that's 3. There may be more, but I don't know. Axey and red are both US, Spider is German I think, and I don't know Thad or Vapor.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:23, 27 April 2011 (BST) I am from Uranus. ~ 16:36, 27 April 2011 And Thad is Dutch so he might as well be from outer space, too. ~ 19:44, 27 April 2011 Technically I'm Dutch as well as Australian… ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 02:22, 28 April 2011 (BST) Dude same. No wonder you me and thad don't ever agree, haha. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 04:50, 28 April 2011 (BST) Well... The 'random revive policy' section you'd changed was pretty purposeful, but given the overall meaning of the page I'll let your edit stick :P --Ash  |  T  |  яя  | 18:44, 27 April 2011 (BST) What? I was just fixing all the links to No Random Revive Policy after it was moved from Random revive Policy. I was just clearing up the last links after Vapor did most of them. :P --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:59, 27 April 2011 (BST) You too Fuck go read User talk:MisterGame. Christ people, it's called User Contributions, it's in the toolbox to the left of the screen and very easy to see.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 22:59, 9 May 2011 (BST) That's why I used the template for old users who may not have had access to the help pages, rather than the template for actual newbies. You can see me making the change in that link you linked to, right there.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ At least you made the second real edit in the list of the pages that were remade. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:14, 9 May 2011 (BST) Manhuntington I liked the idea of Pac-Manhunt so I made a mock playing field. I don't mind making some more templates but I don't really want to act as a head organizer. Wiki time is precious these days and I've got RO2 to plan in another couple of months. Care to take the reigns? ~ 22:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC) Sure, I can handle it. I'll probably whip up a page tomorrow evening.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:58, 18 May 2011 (BST) Manhunt Don't worry. I'm launching AHMH5 as soon as my WiFi stops acting up and when I'm certain it won't act up anymore. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:35, 27 May 2011 (BST) SA's Header HAPPY NOW?--||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 16:07, 3 June 2011 (BST) Yes. Yes I am.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:35, 3 June 2011 (BST) Sig I was mildly confused at first how to comment here, I might steal some of the code later. ;) But yeah I have a minor case of OCD for coding/spelling stuff(by minor I mean I will edit without warning..I should steal that template Aichon has) and I only noticed yours because it displays as text. In either case glad your not offended :)       21:21, 9 June 2011 (BST) Eh grammar was never my strong suit. HTML doesn't use grammar so I'm good.        04:22, 10 June 2011 (BST) I've entertained the idea but I don't know how to do a lot of the stuff on the wiki and don't always have the time that I would need to be an op here. Life is much simpler as a peasant with no authority haha :P        12:30, 10 June 2011 (BST) Ah thank you. I added your code to my sandbox user page it's here if you'd like to look. Any reason why the code "0verflow: auto" is killed by spam filter? It'd have looked better without that bottom scroll bar >.>        16:37, 10 June 2011 (BST) FUCK U! IM COMING 4 YA! :P also where did you get 23 from? at least a 1/4 those were ones i spotted. tsk tsk.--User:Sexualharrison14:52, 15 June 2011 (bst) The cull is all that matters to me. >:D --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 15:36, 15 June 2011 (BST) boom headshot!--User:Sexualharrison14:36, 18 June 2011 (bst) ownership Ownership of pages is derived here. Just thought that would clear up any confusion you might have on the subject. Groups own group pages. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 02:13, 20 June 2011 (BST) But isn't it an inner-group conflict? Surely when this arises someone like a leader may speak on behalf of the group if done out of necessity? At the moment I'm with you karek on this on the current protections situation since it seems pretty mundane but some shit can get pretty intense between group members on the wiki in situations like these. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 02:23, 20 June 2011 (BST) Nope, they've got to come to their own consensus. We don't delegate levels of control, it's part of how we stay out of the conflict. Basically, like the group name, imagery, and persona it's an aspect of the group it represents, not particular individuals in said group.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 07:57, 20 June 2011 (BST) Thanks, Karek, I've actually read that.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 02:35, 20 June 2011 (BST) botty? does this seem botty to you? the correction makes me think it's a real person. still it's just advertisements for crap.--User:Sexualharrison18:09, 20 June 2011 (bst) The correction could easily be scripted, and checkuser confirms that it's a bot.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:09, 20 June 2011 (BST) Massive plucker Ed's Eyebrows? --Rosslessness 22:35, 7 July 2011 (BST) This is an excellent point that you have raised.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:56, 7 July 2011 (BST) Massively distracting today I must admit. When we should be concentrating on more important things. --Rosslessness 23:01, 7 July 2011 (BST) Like getting rid of him and replacing him with Andy Burnham?--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 23:04, 7 July 2011 (BST) Attention Please stop posting useless and unproductive comments to administrative pages, especially when all you are doing is shitting up another user's bid. inb4 “Thank you for your input.” ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 22:51, 8 July 2011 (BST) Nice "official warning". Maybe take it to VB next time, or politely ask me to stop before pretending to administer official warnings?--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 22:56, 8 July 2011 (BST) Getting awfully close to misusing your sysops status there. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:00, 8 July 2011 (BST) "Badge of Authority"? Please! --Rosslessness 23:06, 8 July 2011 (BST) ... Remember not to get too caught up in others silly antics, as fun as it may be, it's not worth it in the long run. -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:49, 8 July 2011 (BST) I'm just arsing around. :P I don't really care too much, tbh.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 23:53, 8 July 2011 (BST) I know, that's why I'm saying it. Don't worry, we will never have 2 goon crats lol-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 00:06, 9 July 2011 (BST) I really don't care if we do, tbh. I mean, what would they do if they got them? Promote all of themselves to sysop? wow, that would be fun.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 00:21, 9 July 2011 (BST) Um... You signed twice in this edit, then said this. Silly rabbit. 14:55, 19 July 2011 (BST) I see. This changes page made it appear like he was fiddling my timestamps.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 15:00, 19 July 2011 (BST) The changes function of any wiki is pretty mechanical. You can completely replace an article on War and Peace with one about ballbags and it'll still assume that similar phrases are unchanged. That one just saw the two dates the same and assumed the text was spliced into a sentence instead of added after it. 15:03, 19 July 2011 (BST) Ergh. Once again, we can blame the wiki.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 15:04, 19 July 2011 (BST) ... How the hell do I get the DA forums to work for me? And where is the place for General UD-related discussions? O.o --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC) What do you mean? Click register at the top under the banner, portal to see active topics, and click Dulston Alliance to go the the forum listing. The welcome forum is probably the most general, although "the bar" works too.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC) I can't reply or add new topics! >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC) What's your account name, I'll take a look.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:27, 18 January 2011 (UTC) What other account name do you think I'll go by? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Do you mind if I log in to your account to have a look at what's going on?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Go ahead. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:45, 18 January 2011 (UTC) I had to reset your password to do so (I've facebook messaged you the new pass) but I can't see a problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:36, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Oh, in case you hadn't realised, the "Add Reply" button above and below the messages in a topic is what you use to post. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC) DA forums confuses the crap out of me. I don't know, maybe I was looking through the wrong board. Could be why. I couldn't figure out for the life of me where the General Discussion was so I figured I'll toss it in the Off-Topic board, more specifically, The Bar. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Sounds good, and you should be able to post there.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC) Natural Po-lice I know how you like historical american urban dead clones. Want to come run the New York Police Department with Me? No one else is doing it and you can shoot all the gang members you wish. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC) I'll have a look at it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:02, 27 January 2011 (UTC) Burst in to opium den, found nobody inside, tried to remove extortion, failed.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:15, 27 January 2011 (UTC) I spent all my AP searching. I have no idea what I'm doing. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC) Maybe their wiki would be a good place to...oh wait...nevermind. ~ 22:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC) The RC page is filled with spambit edits!!! Spambits!!!! They're taking over the wiki!!! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC) exams What exams are you doing at the moment--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC) None, my last was today, but they were A-levels. I don't know what an international equivalent would be, but I'm 18, if that helps.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Were all British here :D--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Hell-a yeah! :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Oh yeah I need to re-learn things. And learn to use the preview button... But thankyou. :3 -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt. 19:31, 31 January 2011 (UTC) s'okay. Good to see you're back. :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC) It's good to be back. Is anything interesting happening? Has anythign interesting happened since august? -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose another Manhunt. 19:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Some stuff. Manhunt Marathon is in full swing (You need to edit the link in your sig, btw) and we've had a couple more sysop promotions and demotions. There's not that much going on. Lots of zergs apparently. Have a look on RC.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Fixed. :3 Might template my sig, it takes up a lot of space in edit form... I don't think I'm signed up for Manhunt Marathon, but I'll go find out what that is about before ruling myself out. -- Rahrah is pumped that he's going to lose YET ANOTHER Manhunt. 21:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC) You don't need to sign up, you just take part in two or more manhunts that are part of it, and you are considered in it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Got any Battle Row AP? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Yup. Sting?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC) I've finally found the arrest warrent for the guy hiding in the stable next to the PD, but he's still got 14hp, I need some tag team attacking. You get 1xp for every damage inflicted. Once he's knocked out, I can arrest him. Any help? Jersey is his name. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC) TAILORS, NOT STABLE!--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC) What street? I'm totally lost.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Furthest NW. Where the PD is, just keep on going right and up! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:41, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Wait, NW or NE?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:42, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Inside, attacking.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC) I'm Dead.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Wow. They must be active. First time I've seen that. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC) They all attacked simultaneously. The cades were up when I arrived too.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Well, he's dead too. But i can't arrest him. Probably a bug. Did you level? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:48, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Yeah, they're active. I took a warrant for another guy in the building and we had row. I got him more than he got me but I ducked out before I ran out of AP. ~ 21:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Got him! Its because I hadn't put any skill points in "Arrests". Now Ive done that It was easy. 20xp as well! Of course now I'm ap'd out in front of them, but hey/ --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC) I think I got a couple of XP. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Whats your profile? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC) BTW when he was unconscious I had a button that said "ROLL" withi his name in the drop down. I clicked it, and got the message "You roll Jersey and found $6.54". I also leveled up by attacking. Now level 2. Spent my 6 and a half bucks on buying new skill investigate. ~ 22:14, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Nice, Are you slim Vap? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Yep. ~ 22:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Cool. I'm going the blunt trauma and intimidate route. Too many of these businesses need to be unintimidated. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Nice, I plan on going the support route. Fisrt Aid, Arrest, Investigate and Counter Attack. Slowly bumping Haggle. I'll get the melee skills later. ~ 23:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Policy Proposal I've created a formal policy to propose, here: Unbiased Group Listings. If you could go take a look, clean it up and add anything you feel needs to be done, please do. I've asked Thadeous to help too, so hopefully your combined wiki knowledge can overcome my inept-ness.--tyx94 20:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC) Yo chatango me. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC) Case is pretty much set thanks to RHO. I'm unsure about Vapor, but I dare to put money on Boxy's vote. I swear I thought this case was open and shut though :/ --Thadeous Oakley Talk 23:52, 13 February 2011 (UTC) I reckon it is, but "certain people" are stirring up the hornets nest. And yep, Boxy's ruling is almost guaranteed. I also wouldn't put it completely past Ross to change his ruling given the opposition that's turned up (particulalry DDR's note).--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC) The Fuck does that mean? BTW when was the last time we had the entire sysop team rule on a case? Good times! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC) I meant that after seeing different precedents and how it conflicted with TOU, I thought you might change your ruling. I didn't mean anything negative by it. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:57, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Haha. I don't think that's actually a good thing. Looking at todays stuff, plus boxy in the past hour, I'm starting to think we're going back to the old days of pre a/re: big sysop team= big sysop fights. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 11:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC) BIG SYSOP FIGHT! Talking of which we need to sort out Axey in a day or too. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC) So what we do is we introduce double re-evaluations? Until eventually, every user on the wiki is a sysop, but they're all constantly under re-evaluation.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC) That was originally my strategy/outlook as a crat: be a bit more lenient than I was on promotions but be tougher on re-evaluations. But the team is growing at a pretty alarming rate even without putting that ideal into play. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 12:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Probably easier if we both resign, let them sort everything out. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Both resign, make Rosster and Swiers crats.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Karek and Xela798 --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:00, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Hagnat and Hagnat?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC) I'll probably wait and see if this TOU policy gets enacted. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Part of the problem is the community becoming so small. Already the majority of active community seems to turn into sysops. I'm also afraid where sysops fights lead us. More re-evualtions? Maybe. But generally speaking, if it happens more it gets less attention, less people may particpate in re-evualations, and it may lead to the sysops actually re-evaluate themselves on their own. Then crat power. If sysops conflicts increase, then it will be harder for Crats to remain impartial and it will only be a matter of time before the accusastion of bias is made. Not saying the current crats are biased, there probably the best couple we have for the positions. Just saying, if you're implementing more re-evualtions then please review the influence and power crats have.--Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC) I'm massively Biased. Thats the issue with allowing crats to do everything Sops do. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:18, 14 February 2011 (UTC) I mean biased as in; you're really starting to hate Sysop A, always disagree with him, and when A is up for re-evaluation you let this cloud your impartial, based on community input, judgment. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Not really, its quite easy. One day you're VBing Mis, the next day I'm hunting him out for his opinion on a guide I'm publishing. Sysop are Sysop's not because we agree, but because we have different ideas about how to reach our common goal.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC) That's the ideal, with which I agree. I'm just sketcing a scenario where increased hostility could lead bias between sysosp/crats and how this could negatively affect re-evaluations. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 13:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Why do you think I give my personal input in bids even though I'm a crat? So my bias is clear and transparent for the community to see and complain about if they objectively believe my bias clouded my judgement as a crat. As for your initial paragraph, overanalysis imo. Facts are nothing is wrong with sysops arguing, you're probably forgetting that its only been for the last few months that the sysops don't argue most of the time. Even in my tenure we had plenty of issues. And I don't think more fighting will have that effect on the community, nor do I think we're going to keep fighting at all. You guys are looking at the case that was blown out of proportion, and blowing THAT out of proportion, probably because its a lot of ops first days. Really, stop freaking mate, its nothing new. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 13:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC) yeah, lots of op candidates running at the same time always causes drama - July 2010 or November 2009, for example.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC) This really isn't drama. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC) I know, which is one of the reason why I trust you as a crat. I was just theory'en, but your probably right. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 16:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Hotspot Spawning Hey I saw you were also interested in trying out Ross's Spawning hotspot idea. Take a look at Pegton. There are two clusters. One is a cluster of hospitals surrounding Norton Square Railway Station and the other is a cluster of PDs surrounding Bunt Place School. Pegton has no listed Zombie or Hostile groups. It's close to Fort Creedy and Mitchem Mall, and Norton Square Railway Station is also within 3AP of all other TRPs (except mall). I think it's prime for a new spawning centric group. Want to give it a shot? ~ 16:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Maybe, but I have an idled alt only a suburb away preparing for AHMH4.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC) After AHMH4? I'd probably not have the hits to start it in earnest until after the event, anyway. But if I get some interest I may get the gears turning. I might tap Ross since it's his idea and he's a big Vinetown fanboy. ~ 17:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC) YEAH! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Yeah to being a fanboy or yeah to being interested? ~ 17:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Um, in general, I'll help with the experiment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Sure, I'll take part after AHMH4.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Cool. So I think a little experimentation is in order but what I had in mind eventually is to make Pegton a center of learning much like Eastonwood with a group whose goals are similar to MCM except with maybe a broader scope (i.e. not specifically education in the field of medicine). Encourage sound survivor tactics, adopt and adapt good tactics of our own, and put them into practice by offering support to Creedy, Mitchem Mall and of course Pegton. It just seems to be the natural conclusion of a group that goes through efforts to create spawn areas. But yeah, first things first and run experiments after AHMH4. ~ 19:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Of course It refers to pornography, defined as an image "of such a nature that it must reasonably be assumed to have been produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal" Surely the goatse image is produced surely for shock value? Hark at me wikilawyering. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC) It still fits vulgar and obscene though. Personally, I found the porn argument a teeny bit weird.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC) Ok then, glad its not just me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC) If you think that's weird Yon, you're gonna hate what I have to say. If encyclopedia dramatica still has the same article I read years ago, Goatse was in fact taken from a gallery from a anal stretching porn website. So yeah, they tracked the guy down, had their lols, and long story short, it was porn. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 05:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC) Holy shit this is worse than when I found out about the case where men nailed their balls to tables for sexual pleasure. D: --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:49, 15 February 2011 (UTC) What kind of tables? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC) Sounds like some Young Ones shit, daymn -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 11:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC) I don't think I want to know how you "found out" about this bizarre fetish. ~ 15:03, 15 February 2011 (UTC) I studied it in Law. Turns out; illegal.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:07, 15 February 2011 (UTC) Rhodenbank Hey! I noticed you were posting about updating the groups. We have a group of about 8 zeds that live and work in Rhodenbank all year round. We are called the Brain Curators. If you could add us a zombie group in Rhodenbank it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you :) -BrainBiter Da Mighty it was me I claim responsibility to that intrusion--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC) Ah. Will add you.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:45, 18 February 2011 (UTC) Wench DA Forum. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC) Done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC) skadoosh i have no idea.. just bored.. thats all.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 02:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC) Please I am Izumi of the Lockettside Valkyries, nothing more, nothing less. And I am no vandal. Please just leave me alone, I have no desire for trouble nor publicity, simply access to my group page without having to hide under a false name, which is confusing to new members. That whole business with Grim S seems to have finally blown over enough for me to reveal myself, so I ask that you not bring me any unwanted attention...I mean its not like I'm hiding anymore, anyway... Izumi of Lockettside 06:40, 3 January 2011 (UTC) Vandal pages Its Janurary 2011 now, bro. ~ 21:18, 3 January 2011 (UTC) ... My sig will never be allowed to leave this page, no matter how many times you archive! >=D --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC) Switch Redirect Try the redirect on the outside of the switch, but the link on the inside. I think that might work.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC) Woot! I was literally previewing a speedy deletion request. Thanks much! --VVV RPMBG 22:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC) No problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:07, 8 January 2011 (UTC) Congratulations With your successful re-evaluation! Also, I still owned you something: Gordon Brown Thadeous has given Yonnua a Gordon Brown for finding his political motivation --Thadeous Oakley Talk 15:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC) A great politician who failed his re-evaluation. :( --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:01, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Considering what Blair left him with, he can't be blamed much. Perhaps also not a true natural leader. I expect a lot more from that department from the Miliband's though. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 15:04, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Yeah. What I liked is that he knew what he was doing in terms of policy. Personally, I would have preferred Mandelson became the leader of the party in 2007, because then brown would have stayed as Chancellor, where he was expected to be an orator.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Probably his biggest fault was that he overestimated himself. He wasn't too happy with standing in Blair's shadow for so long, and when the opportunity finally came I suspect him listening to his ego rather than his mind or peers when he choose to become leader. I'm sure he capable of making the right decisions and had the knowledge and understanding of what needed to be done but he seriously lacked some tact and charisma. That's the problem with todays politics, especially during campaign time. It's more an Idols-like contest about personal popularity then actual in-dept content. All thanks to the (new) media. --Thadeous Oakley Talk 15:16, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Yeah, and it's ridiculous, because the public then say they hate people who are just talk.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:54, 9 January 2011 (UTC) What's ironic is that if you ever express such a view in public, you would be called an elitist or even anti-democratic. And then there are the populist parties. Oh God. You're lucky you don't have any of those being successful in Britain. Here, one managed to become the third party of the country. Imagine the BNP gettting 1/5 of the votes. True, they are alot more extreme then the PVV but still...--Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Yeah, fortunately, racism is one of the cards which people play against here, so the BNP can't get in.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC) Cake! Someone deserves a little cake today! A cake with "Happy Birthday" written in frosting...Mmmm...Frosting...Well, since I'm a little tight on cash, some leftover cake from Michaleson should do the trick. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC) Happy Birthday! I'm sure I have some more cake around here somewhere for you...--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC) It went well!--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 21:17, 17 January 2011 (UTC) Why must you always touch our cakes with your grubby hands? We don't know where they've been! >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC) Gefeliciteerd :) --Thadeous Oakley Talk 21:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC) Thank you to everybody above. :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)