User talk:Yonnua Koponen/Archive/0910

2010 Discosaurs Hey, yo, fam. Check this out. I was just at the club, right? Heard these two dudes talking. One of them said to the other one that they knew someone who said you guys are wack! =P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:17, 28 October 2010 (BST) What yo' talking about, fool?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3 18:19, 28 October 2010 (BST) Donkey Am I misremembering, or was there some sort of way to return these to you, if found? ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 17:34, 29 October 2010 (BST) Here. :P Bear in mind it may have already been claimed.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3 23:22, 29 October 2010 (BST) Whoa I seem to have hit the jackpot in Mos Eisley. The death of TripleU has cost him his weapon and ammunition, it seems. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC) I seem to have been killed by Corky.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3 17:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC) Heh. He must be mad that he lost his Mayoral position. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC) Bar Fight! Based on picking names from my hat, your opponent is ObiFireFighter. I'll now leave you two to work out a bar and fight time. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC) Sup! Wich time-zone are you located on Yonnua? --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 21:46, 18 November 2010 (UTC) UK. and yourself?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:03, 18 November 2010 (UTC) Portugal, same as UK I think GMT (+00). Is 27th or 28th of November, next weekend ok? Any ideas for the location? --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 22:46, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Sounds fine and I honestly don't care about location. Where's your character?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:49, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Don't forget your fight times. Remember, I wanna get as much realtime combat in these bar fights as possible. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:51, 19 November 2010 (UTC) ObiCop is in Vinetown but I can use ObiFF if he's closer to you. Let's pick some Bar half-way from your char and mine. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 22:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC) Mine's in the NW. I'll head down to you, but I don't see any pubs in Vinetown, so how about the Elsbury Arms in Crowbank?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:39, 20 November 2010 (UTC) Sounds good, let's do it on the 28th. Any hour for me is good as long is not too early or late. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 18:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC) I don't think the 28th works for Yon...He also registered his exact same alt for the Mudkip Hunt... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Mudkip manhunt starts on the 1st?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Yarp. So if you start this bar fight with the same character on the 28th, you'll have a few days to kill Obi and run over to the starting location (which would be Penny Heights...I haven't decided on the building yet). --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC) That's completely reasonable. And if the battle's dragging on, Tyrrano is idled near enough by that I can swap him in at the last minute.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Now we need to set the time of the fight, anything but during morning time is ok. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 17:47, 25 November 2010 (UTC) 17:00-18:00 (GMT) ? --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC) Ok, it's set. --Obi + Talk!|TZH|MDK 18:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC) Let's see if I can clear things up. You can retract your bet. You can't change it. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:25, 29 November 2010 (UTC) Then I'm staying as I started it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:29, 29 November 2010 (UTC) Just to let you know... Your brain Mr.Yonnua tasted quite good. --Radio 03:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Mudkip Hunt There's a week left, so this is to remind you to meet at The Roger Arms, Penny Heights if alive, or Junkyard 98,76 if dead, Penny Heights, 3 days before the competition begins. DJSpinbad will be at that location to confirm you are there when the competition begins. Those who do not arrive will be disqualified. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:28, 23 November 2010 (UTC) Tapping you for your opinion Since I wasn't sure if you had seen this yet and I was fishing for comments or suggestions. Plus, I figure that anyone else interested will see it if I ping you and a few others. ;) —Aichon— 04:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC) Discosaurs/Rage_in_the_Age/The_Event Finish it. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC) Smarty Pants For this nifty turn of phrase you will pay. Dearly. You will pay...--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 03:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Swarm Currently Standing in the lake, Due North of Purgatory. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:17, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Wait until tomorrow or later tonight. That way he won't stand back up.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I have no intention of doing damage to the fine fellow. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I have no weapon.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Purgatory has sabres for 9 bucks --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:25, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I woke up dead but I'll try to make it there. Which shop?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Southernmost I believe. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC) It was northwestern. I take it you were locked in the shack in the SE corner?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Yeah! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I was tempted to break in and kill you, but I decided on an alternative.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Funny, that's where I wanted to head. See me in #udwiki later. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I laugh. I hid in Jim Bim's shack in the Forest of Despair for the past week stocking up on Morphine, Cactus Milk, and Opium. I'm doin' good so far. =P --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Do you have any spare? I'm running low because I keep getting killed.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Will trade Opium for bullets. From December 8 on. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I'll trade now or not at all.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I will say more, but there are some things that are too hot to say here. I'll set up a thread for DiL on the Organization XIII forums. I may/may not disclose it there. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC) Fear me! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 06:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Miss Bennet Town Hall of the Hive, Far NW --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:37, 1 December 2010 (UTC) TSO has stated they are mainly fighting the Union. Thought you should know. Of course it's not that it matters to you...They do have beef with anyone involved with Spidey... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:47, 1 December 2010 (UTC) I've not been intrinsically involved with Siderzed, but I'd imagine they'll clean me out if they find me anyway. Hopefully I'll outlast Ross though. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Only 35 of us left! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Jack the Ripper in corky's Forest of Despair shack. Edgar Flume in Jim Bim's shack in the Forest of despair. Of course, the question is, do you want to head down there with Berserkas in the area already? Hail the powers of irc! ;D --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Where is the forest of despair on the map?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC) *COUGH*--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Forest of Despair is the huge forest near the south edge of the map. As for the irc channel, I'm not at liberty to give that information out to you...I would if I could, but they don't want you, so... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:36, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Fair enough. Frankly, I don't want to be anywhere near the forest of despair if it's the battleground everyone's fighting on.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Jim Bim's shack in Forest of Despair: Berserkas, dazed, Timothy Strough, Bill Turner, Jim Bim, Edgar Flume. First two have bolted. All but Jim Bim are active. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 02:44, 2 December 2010 (UTC) Are they all a team? I would have figured Berserkas was just in it for himself.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:30, 2 December 2010 (UTC) Berserkas is with TSO. TSO stated they're helping Confeds. I'm pretty sure you can see why Berserkas and Dazed made a run for it. They were originally gonna team up on Jim Bim until those other three busted in. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC) Right, I'll make sure not to kill him if I bump in to him then.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC) You can now see speech when you're dead. O.O --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC) 28 left! Never going to make the end day. We've also all lost 3hp from the fissure. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:16, 2 December 2010 (UTC) You can now speak when dead too, except it'll show up as "The ghost of (name here) says". --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC) This is going well. I'm surprised no-one's found me yet. You had any close calls?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC) Constantly moving. Go to the centre of any body of water, and there's a survivor. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC) I'll bear that in mind when I go on my raid tonight.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:49, 2 December 2010 (UTC) Dazed on 20hp Interested? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:40, 3 December 2010 (UTC) where?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Also, is he union or shiney, because I'm only going after the union.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC) I'm a shiney. --Riseabove 17:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Then I have no intention of killing you unless we're the last 2 people left. :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:42, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Good to hear. If you're hunting Union not us I think I can get TSO to agree to mutual non-attacking as long as Unionists still breathe :) --Riseabove 17:50, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Deal. I think this Lincoln guy's been getting a little too big for his boots.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:52, 3 December 2010 (UTC) It's been communicated & agreed. Now for Union hunting goodness. --Riseabove 17:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Now you should probably debate on whether or not he should get irc access... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:13, 3 December 2010 (UTC) I don't mind either way, and to be fair, I probably wouldn't log on that frequently. I'll still communicate any unioners that I find here though.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC) Not sure... ...if this is of any significance. Poking you about it in case it is, since you're in that area and would know better how to handle it if it is a problem. —Aichon— 06:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Deathwire is the head honcho of DITPS. Figure he's protesting my group's classification. Or something like that. -- Spiderzed▋ 06:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC) It's more of a show against the idiocy of the system in general, but yes, the greifers were kinda a catalyst. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Being the leader of the group does not give him the right "to classify his group as whatever he wants". His group is pro-survivor (and even categorised as such). It's borderline vandalism as he's basically spreading misinformation on the suburb page. As for the Big Coffin Hunters it's pretty much the same. If I get it right, the group's goal is pking members of the Dulston Alliance which would classify as pking. Both are using the suburb group list as an extend of their roleplaying and own POV, which they shouldn't do. The suburb and it's group list are suppose to be neutral or NPOV, and anyone looking at it from an objective view (like I'm doing as I'm not involved) can see BCH is PKer and DITPS is Pro-Survivor. Tldr: The suburb group list should be taken from a neutral point of view, not from the groups point of view. Unless Í missed something important here, I'm going to fix the list soon. --Thadeous Oakley 10:25, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Or Not. Corn believed firmly that his group was pro survivor. Try arguing with the PK that their actions aren't about promoting better survivors. Hell SFHNAS have been maintaining the only guaranteed EP in Kempsterbank for years. Of course if the only arbies case on this subject hadn't been so badly screwed we'd have a better answer. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC) PK (I assume you mean the knights) are pkers by definition. The reasoning behind it is roleplaying and from their perspective. Corn's was at war with another group. I'm sure there are more gray areas to this, where NPOV is not sufficient to determine a group's nature. But in this case, with these 2 groups BCG and DITPS it's pretty obvious. --Thadeous Oakley 11:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Then raise it with them. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 11:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC) I will. --(Thad)eous Oakley Talk 11:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC) BCH uses PKing as one of their tools against very, very specific targets, but isn't a "Hostile Group" on a suburb level. 9 out of 10 visitors to the NE corner are perfectly safe from us. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Sorry that I haven't been able to answer this, because I've been massively ill. Deahwire was almost definitely complaining about how The BCH (A group whose admission requirement is 10 PKs) have been allowed to classify as pro-survivor. In terms of using Philosophe knights as a parallel, that's completely inappropriate, because you don't need to PK to be a member, e.g. Damon Young. And of course, Deathwire was also probably confused by the fact that a system operator forced through the BCHs original changes. Personally, I agree with Thad that neither of them should have the right to classify as whatever they want, and they should be forced to put what they actually are. However, given that Deathwire had previously been informed that it was acceptable by a system operator, I see no reason to give him a vandalism case or anything like that. Either leave them both or move both to the right sections. Of course, if there is a case of any kind (Vandalism, arbies) I won't have anything to do with it, as an involved party.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Hasn't this issue come up quite a few times? My understanding was that it was entirely up to the group themselves how they were listed, and that's a position I'd stand behind. It's definitely not vandalism though, as it's not interfering with anything - if it gets to an edit war then the solution is to arby it and have someone neutral decide what stays where and set a precedent for it, but I'd hope common sense would stop people interfering enough to get that far. 18:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Well, my stance has always been that so long as they are consistent and can justify it somehow, it's generally fine. That said, D.I.T.P.S. lists itself as a survivor group on its own pages, which directly contradicts this change, hence why I was concerned. I don't want to speak for BCH, but in the case of the Philosophe Knights, we do, as was said, allow for our members to ascend the ranks without PKing (in fact, our most recent entrant to our highest rank did so, from what I heard). Additionally, the Knights are consistent in their message that they are acting in the best interests of the population, rather than being hostile for the sake of being hostile, and would hold that there is a difference between being a "PKer Group", which they readily admit that they are, and being a "Hostile Group", which is what gets listed on the suburb pages. Plus, there's also the fact that the suburbs where the Knights are listed are the ones where they do act in a very pro-survivor way, working alongside other groups to rebuild and maintain the suburb. So, in all of those regards, the Knights are not really an apt comparison to the current situation, since their listing as a survivor group is justifiable on quite a few different bases. —Aichon— 19:31, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Anyway, yeah, I'm not planning to pursue this, but I wanted to make sure a local with wiki knowledge was aware of it, since I didn't feel equipped to handle it at the time. Also, that last response was in general to the conversation, not just at you two, since clearly you both already knew most of it. —Aichon— 19:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC) "Deahwire was almost definitely complaining about how The BCH (A group whose admission requirement is 10 PKs) have been allowed to classify as pro-survivor. In terms of using Philosophe knights as a parallel, that's completely inappropriate, because you don't need to PK to be a member, e.g. Damon Young" // How does this statement hold up considering the fact that we require our members to punish 2 members of the Ignorant masses (with an appropriate speech beforehand) before they are allowed to become a full member? And seeing as BCH appears to be a group which is solely at war with the Dulston Alliance (excepting the few DA groups which have earned BCH's ceasefire), how does that make them any different than the Umbrella Corporation vs the UBCS or Dragonhead vs Bigger Mortice? Many thanks in advance, and Praise Knowledge. --DTPK 22:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC) The real killer argument aren't the knights. The killer argument is Team Zombie Hardcore. No one has ever bothered to remove those clowns as survivor group from their suburb listings. For years, and despite heavy warfare from heavily metagaming (and wiki-savvy) players and groups against them. -- Spiderzed▋ 23:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC) No, they've PKed survivors unaffliated with the Dulston Alliance, which they've also accepted for entrance in to their group.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:08, 7 December 2010 (UTC) Berserkas Sends his regards. --Riseabove 22:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC) ROFL! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC) Why?! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC) I laugh. TSO comes out as the victor of the Civil War, but instead of Lincoln getting assassinated, Berserkas gets assassinated by his own groupie. xD --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 03:36, 9 December 2010 (UTC) Organization XIII Hey. Just wanted to get your opinion on this possible picture I made that could be used as the Wiki Advert picture. Thoughts? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:21, 9 December 2010 (UTC) I've given a detailed and well thought out 8 point answer on the forum, summarising my joys and woes with the image.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:42, 9 December 2010 (UTC) You've been... ...whacked. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC) What are you doing up in Dulston?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:35, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Running from Kevan. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Yer welcome. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:00, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Is that...a modified version of my modified version of chud that I see you're using? I'm just trying to figure out why Yonn's HP isn't showing up next to the "K A P", since my version puts it there, and I wasn't sure if it was a bug or if someone had modified it. —Aichon— 17:29, 10 December 2010 (UTC) It's definitely your version from your userscript page. I'm just assuming it's a conflict of scripts somewhere. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 17:34, 10 December 2010 (UTC) How odd. I'll look into it, since that's a bug, but if it is caused by another script, I'm not sure if it's anything I can fix. —Aichon— 19:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Not Bull... ...Just Laziness. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC) So instead of making an open discussion which should be linked to the wiki's main page, you've holed it up in your user space? I didn't even come across it until minutes ago. Add a link in the news/community portal and we'll call it even.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC) It's already there... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC) And aside from that...I just need to add this under UDWiki:Projects. I just can't think of a name for this clean up project. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:35, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Project Not so Great?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:45, 10 December 2010 (UTC) I'm now having second thoughts about adding this to the Projects page. Judging from the history, it doesn't look like anyone's bothered to use it in half a year. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Dulston Danger Map Hi! I noticed that you are reporting the buildings statuses at Dulston. Good work! I just want you to know that I changed the danger map to red, because most buildings are ruined and only 1 TRP is safe. But since you spend more time in Dulston than me, you should change it to orange again if you feel its better. Keep the good work! Scout Dude 02:34, 17 December 2010 (UTC) The Rosslessness Duck Hunt Greetings Potential Competitor. The Duck hunt will start very soon. The First Sitting Duck "Sacrificial Mudkip" is in place. Due to the small numbers of competitors the playing area has been slightly reduced. See the main duck hunt page for the correct area. If you haven't already confirmed which character you will be using, please do so now. Happy hunting of both your fellow competitors and the ducks. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC) Me love you long time Now you're stuck with this at the top of your talk page until you archive it! Hah! —Aichon— 18:11, 28 October 2010 (BST) Joke's on you; I archive at will.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3 18:17, 28 October 2010 (BST) Third. You're dead again. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:11, 6 October 2010 (BST) Fucking Suburban Ed.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:21, 6 October 2010 (BST) ... Why are you constantly archiving? --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:23, 6 October 2010 (BST) It just makes more work for me... –MisanthRopy 22:47, 6 October 2010 (BST) I arcghived at the same time as you and Red did.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:21, 6 October 2010 (BST) Huh? I don't follow you.--Thadeous Oakley 22:18, 7 October 2010 (BST) Well somebody imitating you and grim is doing it then.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:21, 7 October 2010 (BST) Warning Please don't misuse checkuser, or reveal information about IP results publicly if it isn't in the public/wiki's best interests. This is an official warning. -- LEMON #1 00:29, 9 October 2010 (BST) Red October confimration Please confirm your intent to participate in the Red October manhunt event as a Red Army team member by clicking here and leaving a note. The event begins at 12:01am GMT on October 25th. --~ 16:58, 11 October 2010 (BST) Personally I'd have waited 3 days. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:43, 13 October 2010 (BST) Why? What happens in 3 days? Crat election ends in 4, and if you meant that, I didn't want the result to influence my decision to nominate Thad. He's a deservign user, and hopefully whoever's elected alongside you will see that as well. Consider it the first decision of their powers (assuming he accepts).--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:48, 13 October 2010 (BST) it's still going to be their decision regardless, but one election at a time is good enough for me. It looks like you aren't going to come last in RITA! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:08, 13 October 2010 (BST) Your talk page used to break sigs I believe that It doesn't any more. Turns out that the problem was indeed with your page and not with the signatures, since absolute positioning works fine so long as its parent is either the window or a non-static positioned element. Your scrollbox was statically positioned before, but by giving it position: relative, it lays out the same way, but allows those sigs to work as they do everywhere else on the wiki. I checked in FF and WebKit, and they work fine, and I see no reason why it wouldn't work in IE as well, though you might want to check. ;) —Aichon— 18:51, 16 October 2010 (BST) Thanks! Nicely done good sir!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:28, 16 October 2010 (BST) DiL Edgar Flume in the shack south of Bally, if you're interested. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 20:53, 16 October 2010 (BST) I may not have the FP, but I'll try.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:05, 16 October 2010 (BST) I ran after he dodged 10 of my rifle attacks. >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:25, 16 October 2010 (BST) I couldn't find the alledged shack.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:32, 16 October 2010 (BST) Follow the yellow dot... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:35, 16 October 2010 (BST) The son of a bitch just locked the door. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:37, 16 October 2010 (BST) Ah, I went the other way because I thought you meant Ehawee's shack. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:38, 16 October 2010 (BST) Epic fail... >_< --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 22:40, 16 October 2010 (BST) The Slightly Late Third Question of the Aforementioned Series The government. How many branches, what does each do, and how are their members chosen? --VVV RPMBG 02:17, 17 October 2010 (BST) Missed this. There are several, depending on your meaning. We have two branches of legislature, the commons and the lords. Commons decides everything and then lords can send it back and forth a couple of times before they have to accept it. There's the cabinet, led by the PM and the senior officials of the leading party. They decide how things are run, etc. Then in terms of judiciary we have a supreme court but they essentially do nothing and have no law-making power. Commons is elected in elections held at the cabinet's discretion up to 5 years apart. Most of the lords are chosen by the PM, 92 were born in to it, and the 26 most senior church officials are also in it. The Cabinet is chosen by the PM, who is the leader of the party with a majority in commons. Individual commons seats are decided by elections in 650 different constituencies. Good enough, or do you want more?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:11, 17 October 2010 (BST) Tell him how devolution works, that'll put the willies in him. –MisanthRopy 22:13, 17 October 2010 (BST) We say "YOU'VE GOT THE POWER" and they dunt.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:14, 17 October 2010 (BST) I was thinking more how MLA positions (especially the actual positions and not just seats) are apparently decided by whoever is most bastardly to the media. Also honestly, explain how First Minister works becuase I have no idea. –MisanthRopy 22:16, 17 October 2010 (BST) Dunno, I don't do devolution. I just know it's ridiculously inefficient.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:17, 17 October 2010 (BST) Questions on higher wiki editing I've got a little request on my humble quest to learn what I can as a Wiki member. First of all, how do you add special characters to your signature? Secondly, I'd like to get more active in the community. How would I achieve this? And thirdly, anything you can give me on editing pages and adding things like cell spacing, background coloring, special pages (like navigation) and etc. If at all possible drop me a nice heap on Linking pages, a huge problem I have, according to my talk page. --Noted Literature critic, Mead Sheaffer. 05:47, 17 October 2010 (BST) ¿Que es esto? Special characters in a signature? First off, you'll want to create a page titled User:Officer Mead Sheaffer/signature, then fill it with the text you want in your signature (be sure to include a link to your userpage). Once you've made the signature to your liking, you will want to click on the "my preferences" tab, and type {{SUBST:Nosubst|:User:Officer Mead Sheaffer/signature}} into the "nickname" field. If you do this properly, then your name should appear as you formatted it on the /signature page. You can find special characters by typing their alt codes or by copy-pasting them off of somewhere else. I'm assuming you're already familiar with the basics of creating a link ([[example link]] and [[example link|visible text]]) based on your current signature, and are more concerned with the page move notices and the giant "Orphan" templates on your talk page. Those are just misguided attempts to clear out Special:Lonelypages, a useful utility page that has been rendered useless because of the "orphan" templates. There are a few basic ways to get more involved in the wiki community. See the "wiki news" template on the main page? Have you participated in all the votes and disscussions listed on it? If not, then that is a great place to start off. You may also want to consider reading over some of the current cases on the administrative pages and, if you feel so inclined, post your input on the cases on the administrative talk pages. You can also get involved in more hands-on activities, such as writing clever and/or humorous descriptions for location pages. I'd help you with the tables and whatnot, but I'm afraid I usually just piece my coding together from existing pages. You actually can learn a decent bit by copying some table coding (just look up any nice looking page) and playing with it to see how it works.~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:10, 17 October 2010 (BST) Red's got pretty much everything spot on. If you want to be able to do the code from a page, open the edit tab and find it. It's the best way to learn, imo.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 10:08, 17 October 2010 (BST) WHY! Are you wasting time on petty maintenance when you should be concluding RITA? And why isn't Corns Permaban noted in his VD? WHY? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:34, 17 October 2010 (BST) RITA is concluded, MHAS won. :P I'll get Corny's VD now. And my question for you is Why are you letting obvious meatpuppetry on the crat elections slide by? WHY!?! --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:40, 17 October 2010 (BST) As opposed to what exactly? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:46, 17 October 2010 (BST) Read this link quickly so that you can corroborate my story in a second.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:47, 17 October 2010 (BST) HELP US ROSSLESSNESS! THE MEATPUPPETS! THE MEATPUPPETS! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:53, 17 October 2010 (BST) But they're so cute –MisanthRopy 21:55, 17 October 2010 (BST) God, I'll be so happy when this is over and I can start work on the Discosaurs' first mission.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:56, 17 October 2010 (BST) Avoid extinction? –MisanthRopy 22:00, 17 October 2010 (BST) Shush. Help with the crat election then go here and register.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:01, 17 October 2010 (BST) Firstly, Mis, like pretty much everyone in history has posted on a site "I'm running for crat", secondly,Mis always does this, thirdly, Independent IP's with editing history, who am I to label lesser wiki users? Fourthly, I could always demote myself and then they'd both get in. Fifthly, notice how sysops who want to be crat always do some kind of project before, or during the elections? Sixthly, You realise I won't actually do the promtion demotion until tomorrow morning anyway? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:02, 17 October 2010 (BST) Firstly, I certainly haven't done that, because it's against the rules and it would be stupid to do that. Second, true. Third, meh. Fourth, O.o. Fifth, point being? Sixth, good.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:08, 17 October 2010 (BST) Oh, actually, one should read "Someone has posted." --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:22, 17 October 2010 (BST) Btw, DON'T YOU CARE RESIGN AGAIN! >:( --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:26, 17 October 2010 (BST) Fifthly is stupid, that's why this election had the potential to bring out the best crat. No one was expecting this crat election cause it came by unprecedented demotion so for the most part it would have run off form. Potential, yeah, but unfortunately someone had to have an army to aid them within the second day -- LEMON #1 22:29, 17 October 2010 (BST) Nice little Iscariot appearance I thought. Anyway, long day, I'll scan through all the magical new voters in the next few hours. Night all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:32, 17 October 2010 (BST) Stub Work I noticed a while back that we were trying to reduce the number of location stubs. I was wondering if we could do a more organized version of that. Like, literally assigning people to write in histories for a suburb. I've been working on a few, but I'm very intimidated by the massive amount of locations with no description or history information. If you could get back to me on that I'd very much appreciate it.--keepster33 04:14, 24 October 2010 (BST) We can't force people to do it, but we can encourage them. Someone had a competition a few months ago to see who could write the most full location block histories and descriptions, and it resulted in a lot of work on some locations. Unfortunately, cause some people only cared about winning, it also resulted in a lot of duplicated image spam. Long story short, making fun competitions are always fun and result in a lot of good work, the only problem with the one I'm remembering was it was so short that by 2 weeks, it was over and no one gave a shit (it should have gone for 2 or 3 months and been a long term thing) -- LEMON #1 10:11, 24 October 2010 (BST) DDR above explained pretty much the issues with it. It's relatively boring, so not many people are inspired to do it. I say crack on if you can, but don't feel too pressured by it. It's been five years since the game was made, I'd wager it'll probably take five or so more before the wiki is complete.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 10:15, 24 October 2010 (BST) Thanks for the edit, I've really no clue what I'm doing so the guidance was great. I'm trying to not break anything xD. --RemipunX 19:15, 25 October 2010 (BST) Mah mararana!!! Hey, would you like to grab a screenshot of all that pot talk outside Sears? I kinda wanna see how it looks from another person's perspective. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 00:28, 28 October 2010 (BST) DiL Bill Turner, Southeast of Spidey's shack, in the river. He's active, but has no FP left to spend. Hurry before he runs again! --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 15:53, 28 October 2010 (BST) Couldn't find him, I only saw Spidey in the river. I did however find "Montana" - Who's from urbandead - in the tombstone town hall.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature3 16:32, 28 October 2010 (BST) He probably ran with Tim Strough I'm betting. I'm dead now...Blasted Tim... --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 16:37, 28 October 2010 (BST) No Hard feelings ?--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:17, 30 September 2010 (BST) No. :P Just starting to get hard to find the conversation, so I archived the page.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:19, 30 September 2010 (BST) +1 –MisanthRopy 23:18, 30 September 2010 (BST) Rage So if in England it starts at midnight on sunday night? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:04, 1 October 2010 (BST) Yeah I think so.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:36, 1 October 2010 (BST) No, it's saturday, so that October 3rd at midnight (the first midnight) is when it begins, rather than beginning at a minute after 23:59 on the same day.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:39, 1 October 2010 (BST) Sorry, I'm explaining poorly. The second that it's the 3rd of october, you can begin.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:40, 1 October 2010 (BST) Would that be server reset time, or our individual time zones? xP --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 23:09, 1 October 2010 (BST) The games will begin on October 3rd, 00:00 GMT... -- Spiderzed▋ 23:38, 1 October 2010 (BST) Are we still on BST? Because that makes the start, 11PM local time? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:54, 2 October 2010 (BST) No, 1 am england time. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:12, 2 October 2010 (BST) 1AM it is. I'll stay up specially to give you all a schooling.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:16, 2 October 2010 (BST) The Second Question in the Aforementioned Series of Questions Is there much Japanese influence in the Kingdom? Namely, is there much Japanese food or media? How familiar are people there with the term weeaboo? Is bubble milk tea any good? --VVV RPMBG 00:37, 2 October 2010 (BST) No, no, quite, bleugh. –MisanthRopy 00:39, 2 October 2010 (BST) MMMmmmm...bubble tea. Though, at this point, those tapioca "bubbles" have branched out into everything from smoothies to blended coffee drinks. I'm a sucker for them, especially the odd ones. —Aichon— 07:35, 2 October 2010 (BST) There isn't much. Media is mainly through the internet, but certain social circles will interact with Japanese media frequently. We get a few US versions of Japanense TV programs. There's some food, but mainly just in specialist places once again. The latter two I have no idea about.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:59, 2 October 2010 (BST) Just as I suspected. Here in the states (at least on the West coast), anime and sushi have very well carved niches; They're both easily their own genres. The difference is probably caused by the varying distance to Japan. --VVV RPMBG 23:57, 2 October 2010 (BST) Probably. I eagerly await your next question.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:57, 2 October 2010 (BST) We get it decently well in Texas as well, though I'm sure you folks on the west coast have it better. I live in a relatively small town (200,000ish in the immediate area) and we have at least a half dozen sushi places within 10 minutes (though I definitely wouldn't recommend some of them) that I can think of off the top of my head. And you can buy anime at pretty much any video or electronics place these days. —Aichon— 01:27, 3 October 2010 (BST) I imported a 10 pack of twinkies off the internet and they made me and my friends feel sick. -- LEMON #1 02:26, 3 October 2010 (BST) I came up with an Idea, but need your input I thought it would be cool if we had a wiki User of the Month Competition. Now, this would probably have to be run by Sysops, so, I'm Asking for your input here. And dont worry, I've asked the other Sysops too. Cheers, -Dezonus- (talk) 14:55, 2 October 2010 (BST) Already done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:56, 2 October 2010 (BST) Gee, that was quick, I checked Recent Changes and you posted before I even got to ask you...I'm impressed =P -Dezonus- (talk) 15:04, 2 October 2010 (BST) ** Flashes Gold Teeth ** I was killed by DJ Talent and all I got was this lousy template. --Kempy 02:55, 3 October 2010 (BST) You also mutated his talk page. Go on, scroll down. It's creepy. --VVV RPMBG 02:59, 3 October 2010 (BST) Then my job ith done. --Kempy 03:39, 3 October 2010 (BST) So the "important business" which your alt needed to ditch RITA for was to come back to Dulston and kill me? :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:56, 3 October 2010 (BST) Goodness no. You were just right place, right time is all. Kempy 12:13, 3 October 2010 (BST) *High Fives DJ*--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:10, 3 October 2010 (BST) disco after the manhunt, can the discosaurs start chillin and killin? or whatever? I'm still game to join the group as Moonwalkosaurus. -- LEMON #1 03:38, 3 October 2010 (BST) ...and my axe. --Kempy 03:40, 3 October 2010 (BST) Shenanigans will definitely ensue.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:51, 3 October 2010 (BST) Mental Problems man. The Hour leading up to 0:00 was mental man, people moving, discovering other groups, working out contingencies. Mad. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:39, 3 October 2010 (BST) Absolutely. Craziest Urban dead thing that's ever happened to me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:54, 3 October 2010 (BST) Getting Natasha Revived to kill was brilliant. That 1ap search in an auto repair to find a fuel can was a real blessing. You should repair your safehouse. 58ap is a hell of a large repair cost. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:06, 3 October 2010 (BST) Well, you guys ARE the best. :p --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:25, 3 October 2010 (BST) The group isn't called the All-Stars for nothing, now. ;) --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 18:53, 3 October 2010 (BST) It's cool dude May I suggest taking a break? Let's go to sleep! that way I don't have to stay up myself Just saying don't get to worked up :O. --Thadeous Oakley 23:47, 4 October 2010 (BST) Yeah well, It'll sort itself out.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:51, 4 October 2010 (BST) Don't get me wrong, I'm just kinda worried. Meaning: don't pull a ragequit and leave the wiki or something, cuz I don't want my best frend forEVah to leave me :( --Thadeous Oakley 23:59, 4 October 2010 (BST) Oh, don't worry, I'll stick around until the day that UD goes down the pan. :) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:00, 5 October 2010 (BST) That or Uni. Uni could fuck things up.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:01, 5 October 2010 (BST) I'm a bachelor grad student, trust me, as long as you stay lazy you'll have all the time in the world. --Thadeous Oakley 00:03, 5 October 2010 (BST) =D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:03, 5 October 2010 (BST) Karl Pilkington Participating in Rage, or not? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:46, 5 October 2010 (BST) Not. He didn't make it to the area because of other commitments which he only revealed after I added his name.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:48, 5 October 2010 (BST) Balls. That means Baron Underbheitn is the only non Allstar player currently Alive. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:49, 5 October 2010 (BST) Oh, if it'll cause issues with averaging, I'm fine for Karl to count as a discosaur, but he isn't in the area so don't hunt him. Also, you kill that baron! :D:D (or revive us)--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:50, 5 October 2010 (BST) Also, what about Suvaloo, Pravus (also may not be in the area), and Haircuts that kill?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:52, 5 October 2010 (BST) Haircuts that kill has shot me several times. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:06, 5 October 2010 (BST) On your redirect Uhm, I remade the page because the Fortress Party was supposed to be entitled the N by NE party. Haha. Switch the redirects please.--Officer Mead Sheaffer 22:48, 20 September 2010 (BST) Test Will it work?--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:54, 12 September 2010 (BST) Third That is all --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:54, 12 September 2010 (BST) Your talk page Looks Snazzy --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:56, 12 September 2010 (BST) Thanks. Also, it won't space out at the bottom now. I really like it. :D Scroll Bars FTW!!--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 16:57, 12 September 2010 (BST) Is that a Donkey in you sig?--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 16:59, 12 September 2010 (BST) Already claimed 1100 times by Misanthropy.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:00, 12 September 2010 (BST) Should have guessed it XD--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 17:00, 12 September 2010 (BST) + works? fantastic, well done. I assume you just did it by leaving divs open at the bottom, kewl. -- LEMON #1 17:16, 12 September 2010 (BST) Yup. Let's have a test of the scroll feature...--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 17:21, 12 September 2010 (BST) this is all very strange and confusing and i dont like it –MisanthRopy 17:53, 12 September 2010 (BST) Experiment Can I break it? Like the DiL wiki? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:59, 12 September 2010 (BST) You can break nothing. And I didn't break DiL, it was a complete coincidence. :P --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:03, 12 September 2010 (BST) ... Now if only you can change the colors of the scroll bars... --Axe Hack 19:10, 12 September 2010 (BST) well, right now I'm on safari, so they're blue and they sync up really nicely with the colours.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:12, 12 September 2010 (BST) Well what about those using Firefox and only see those plain white ones? --Axe Hack 19:16, 12 September 2010 (BST) One more thing. Too many scroll bars on a single page tend to drive me crazy. Your userpage is now at the top of my disliked pages list. =P --Axe Hack 19:24, 12 September 2010 (BST) They can go to hell.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:40, 12 September 2010 (BST) I'll be sure they drag you down with them. ;) --Axe Hack 19:45, 12 September 2010 (BST) Dw, I'll cling to my scroll bar to make it back up again.--Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:49, 12 September 2010 (BST) Scroll bar vandalism...We just need to make it bend just a little... =P --Axe Hack 19:50, 12 September 2010 (BST) Templated signature is back.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:09, 12 September 2010 (BST) Gah! Trust you to make a fancy shmancy confusing talk page. Thank fuck I'm sober today. Kempy 19:15, 12 September 2010 (BST) Just click the plus symbol. :P --Yonnua Koponen T G P ^^^ 19:40, 12 September 2010 (BST) User page Letting you know that your user page exceeds the boundaries of the page and covers the text of revisions if looking at the diffs. Should check into that. :P —Aichon— 20:52, 12 September 2010 (BST) Not on IE or Safari. :P That's enough for me not to care.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:55, 12 September 2010 (BST) Actually, it does on Safari. —Aichon— 20:57, 12 September 2010 (BST) Just checked safari and it didn't. :/--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:57, 12 September 2010 (BST) Might be your screen sizes, probably. --Axe Hack 20:59, 12 September 2010 (BST) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:01, 12 September 2010 (BST) Pic. Maybe you have extensions installed that change its behavior? Or maybe I do? Or maybe Axe is right (he probably is). But if it's broken in Chrome (which it is), then it should be broken in Safari too, since Chrome's rendering engine is WebKit, just like Safari's. —Aichon— 21:02, 12 September 2010 (BST) I have no extensions and I've checked on both widescreen and normal screens. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:04, 12 September 2010 (BST) Axe is right, and widescreen doesn't matter if it's not wide enough, which apparently yours isn't. Once it gets around 12-1300px wide, your page breaks since you have a fluid width for it. Just fix the width of your main container for the page at 1076px and you'll be fine. Otherwise, if users have larger resolutions, it either goes off the top of the page or the divs start to overlap each other. —Aichon— 21:06, 12 September 2010 (BST) Done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:08, 12 September 2010 (BST) As extra added info, the size of this screen appears to be 680px by 1250px.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:12, 12 September 2010 (BST) Mine is 1900x1080, but when I shrink the window down to a size approximating yours, I see how it's all supposed to look, which is much different than it did look, since the scrollboxes had all gone in a row, rather than above, below, and to the side. Anyway, the 1076 trick worked (once I fixed it for you :P ). —Aichon— 21:23, 12 September 2010 (BST) You know, if I were drunk, I may just VB you for that. ;P Nah, I'll do it the day before the next history purge.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:26, 12 September 2010 (BST) I'd return the favor with a VB case for breaking the policy about content outside of the page area. After that, I'd just say I was correcting a vandal edit on your part. ;) —Aichon— 21:30, 12 September 2010 (BST) Also, the scrollbox doesn't handle lots of indentations too well, does it? —Aichon— 21:30, 12 September 2010 (BST) Then that'll teach people to be concise. :P--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:37, 12 September 2010 (BST) Also, did you know that if someone uses a </div> it'll really screw with your page? —Aichon— 20:53, 12 September 2010 (BST) I wanna test that, but I won't say when... >=D --Axe Hack 20:58, 12 September 2010 (BST) Your signature seems to have broken his page too. I can scroll way beyond the bottom of the main container for the page, and there's hidden text in it with links to the stuff in your sig. Quite weird. —Aichon— 21:32, 12 September 2010 (BST) Did it? Everything looks fine from Firefox. --Axe Hack 21:34, 12 September 2010 (BST) I don't think his sig is what's causing the massive space at the bottom, but I can't find what is. I noticed it on my main page earlier, and axe's sig isn't on there.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:37, 12 September 2010 (BST) Don't tempt it. I know you have open edits on your news section... ;) --Axe Hack 21:45, 12 September 2010 (BST) Ah, but I'll pre-empt it second before with a message saying they are forbidden. You cannot risk it. Hahahahaha!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:47, 12 September 2010 (BST) It's his sig all right, just as its Misanthropy's on the main page. Apparently it's an issue with the way that the old ClickInternal code works (no idea if the current ClickInternal breaks with this). If you break the link to the archived news on the front page, you'll see that the extra space goes away, as do the hidden links to Misanthropy's stuff. My best guess for what's happening is that it's displaying the divs with the links in whatever place they would normally display if you didn't have the separate scrollbar, hence why they're growing the page downwards. It's likely the result of using position:absolute with them. —Aichon— 23:37, 12 September 2010 (BST) Ah, i see. Is it going to do anything destructive? If not, then it doesn't really bother me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:40, 12 September 2010 (BST) I doubt it will cause issues, other than aesthetic and a little bit of usability stuff. Shouldn't be a problem if you're okay with it, I think. I might poke around the ClickInternal code some more to see if it can be made to work with pages like yours, but I doubt it can be, since it depends on that position:absolute to do what it does. Perhaps if your page had a closing div it would work, but that's understandably not an option. —Aichon— 23:44, 12 September 2010 (BST) PSP Your scroll bar is an inconvinence to those browsing via PSP and some smart phones (like the BlackBerry Pearl). Just sayin'. --Axe Hack 23:49, 12 September 2010 (BST) Yonnua Koponen is David Cameron's secret bastard son. About your talk page. Looks nice but I would really increase the width, so it can sustain longer conversations. That is all. P.S A sign of aspirations >:D. --Thadeous Oakley 23:56, 12 September 2010 (BST) Good enough?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:33, 13 September 2010 (BST) DiL Wiki Spambits If you're on, it's time to put those SysOps powers of yours to use. --Axe Hack 22:04, 14 September 2010 (BST) Done. Satisfactory timing?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:08, 14 September 2010 (BST) You're a fast one, you. --Axe Hack 22:13, 14 September 2010 (BST) Well, I'm sitting here writing my speech for the Dulston Alliance Awards results announcement, so I've got plenty of time.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:15, 14 September 2010 (BST) Speech? Screw the speech! Just pop the champagne! ;D --Axe Hack 22:19, 14 September 2010 (BST) Lol. Nah, there's got to be a speech because basically we've trounced our local opposition.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:20, 14 September 2010 (BST) Make sure you aren't idle in DiL. Ecce has anounced to run the election script again. -- Spiderzed▋ 06:51, 15 September 2010 (BST) If he's not around, vote for me. =P ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 06:56, 15 September 2010 (BST) Organization XIII If I recall, you told me you were interested. Well, if you're gonna join, care to help around the forums? I think it needs some work. --Axe Hack 01:34, 15 September 2010 (BST) Oi Don't specify a template if you mean a general formatting - "Users whose sigs contain coding..." would be a better disclaimer. –MisanthRopy 18:40, 15 September 2010 (BST) div coding doesn't break it, it's the absolute positioning used pretty much exclusively by that template.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:43, 15 September 2010 (BST) Yes but specify the coding and not a named template. I'm not using click, after all, nor did DDR's old one if I remember right. –MisanthRopy 18:46, 15 September 2010 (BST) A win for pedantry! –MisanthRopy 18:49, 15 September 2010 (BST) you scallywag! Why i was already preparing my arbitration and a/vb cases! xoxo 01:08, 16 September 2010 (BST) :P--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:16, 16 September 2010 (BST) Halp! Yo, Yo. You any good with sigs n shit? I could do with a spot of help on something if you have a moment please? If so, could you maybe pop onto the DSS IRC channel (Slashnet, #dss) and I'll fill you in there? Cheers man. Kempy 16:05, 16 September 2010 (BST) I'm unbelievably shit with IRC, but I should be on now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:50, 16 September 2010 (BST) Thank you once again Yo. In the end, I just went for a smiley for the moment, but the border thing you showed me I can deffo put to good use. Kempy 19:08, 16 September 2010 (BST) No problem, but the border thing won't work in sigs. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:51, 16 September 2010 (BST) :< that is all :<--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:48, 16 September 2010 (BST) Dammit, you had 1 Hit point!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:57, 16 September 2010 (BST) I went too far--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:29, 30 September 2010 (BST) Meh. I was revived within the hour and it cost you much more than it cost me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:49, 30 September 2010 (BST) Is that a request to be sacrafieced again?--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 22:39, 30 September 2010 (BST) Not really. I didn't even know "Sacrafieced" was a thing.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:55, 30 September 2010 (BST) Its the latest craze--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:01, 30 September 2010 (BST) Aye Thanks for the heads up. Haven't played in OH SO LONG. My groups ain't active anymore. My human was face down in the dirt. Oh, well... ~m T! 21:15, 16 September 2010 (BST) Don't worry about it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:17, 16 September 2010 (BST) The First in a Series of Questions About that Country with too Many Names at Various Times in History for the Layman Without Vested Interest to Keep Track Of What is the... United Kingdomian?... view of the 'American Revolution'? --VVV RPMBG 07:03, 18 September 2010 (BST) Which one would this be? The one where you got independence? Well, I'm massively biased because I'm a leninist who's studied the codl war, so I can't really speak for the majority of Brits. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:44, 18 September 2010 (BST) I think a commie would have a more NPOV than the educational system of the country built around the war. I don't care how the modern Brits say the old Brits felt so much as what's included in the typical reminiscence. What reasons did they give for colonial dissatisfaction? How much of the fighting do they say the colonists did compared to their various European allies? How do they sum up the peace settlements and significance of the war? I'm mostly curious about what spin they put on the facts, so I can compare it to what I'm told and spot the differences. --VVV RPMBG 09:26, 18 September 2010 (BST) We don't ever learn about it. Hence, I know the answers to very few of those questions.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:14, 18 September 2010 (BST) It's generally felt in Europe that you owe France a "thank you". –MisanthRopy 19:04, 18 September 2010 (BST) Around here, French 'help' is considered to have been needed, but not huge. Sort of like saying "Daddy and I killed the bear." --VVV RPMBG 21:11, 18 September 2010 (BST) Interesting. I imagine it's largely left our for you because it wasn't exactly a glorious moment, and spammed in the States for the opposite reason. --VVV RPMBG 21:11, 18 September 2010 (BST) Or more so because it isn't part of British history, it's part of American history. Of course, I use the term "American" lightly.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:36, 18 September 2010 (BST) For your troubles... A FREE COOKIE Axe Hack has given Yonnua Koponen a cookie for his troubles. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 19:08, 18 September 2010 (BST) Great suburb Group Massacre 2010 Round 2 Would you like to help out? The_Great_Suburb_Group_Massacre/2010-Round_2 -Dezonus- (talk) 07:06, 19 September 2010 (BST) And if your going to say this is spam, don't. I've asked 3 people who did the previous one, which includes you -Dezonus- (talk) 07:08, 19 September 2010 (BST) This is quite blatantly not spam, but I won't be able to help, seeing how I'm in the middle of my university application atm.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:51, 19 September 2010 (BST) Regarding User:Dr Albert Schwan I was only just recently made aware of the wiki user impersonating me. The same has happened in game as you have seen with similar results. I would not mind were it not for the name similarity which has actually caused people to mistake this user/character for me on several occasions. I believe this to have been the intent behind its creation by the Heathers, a group that bears me ill will due to my publication of their ethically questionable strategies. The artwork and methodology are the same they use in-game that lead to the creation of the Dr. Albert Schwan account and several other impersonations. I was wondering if you can tell me what edits the account made that you had to revert? Additionally, I would like to clarify that though this account was designed to impersonate me as the one in game has been doing since its creation, I do not have a problem with it existing as long as it treats itself as work of satire, links appropriately, specifies itself as a distinct and separate account, and does not perform actions in my name. As this is unlikely to happen, (I have never seen the Heathers take responsibility for one of their creations and assume this was put on the wiki solely for the purpose of making me have to complain about it to get it removed) I would like to know what steps are needed to treat it as work of impersonation and for me to take action if possible. -- Albert Schwan  05:33, 25 September 2010 (BST) I had to revert the creation of links directing to the user page, such as "Schwan" and "Dr Schwan". On the topic of what you'd have to do, I already tried to get a sysop consensus on banning, but nobody else paid me any attention. Take it to A/VB and it'll be gone within the day.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:42, 25 September 2010 (BST) Information much appreciated Yonnua. Thank you. I will attempt to talk to it and see if it will cooperate first. The Heathers put a fair bit of creative work into this so I should at least give it a chance to exist. If it keeps trying to usurp my identity and does not distinguish itself as a parody, I will do as you suggest. -- Albert Schwan  03:11, 26 September 2010 (BST) I have reached an agreement with my impersonator and will proceed to A/VB if he breaks it. Thank you again for the information. -- Albert Schwan  03:18, 27 September 2010 (BST) Red October update This message is to let you know that the Red October event has changed locations. Please visit Red October Talk page to get details on the new location. *Insert lame conservative joke* It took more then a month of slacking, but we're done.--Thadeous Oakley 14:08, 28 September 2010 (BST) Brilliant man. Keep this sort of thing up and you may just get yourself nominated.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:04, 28 September 2010 (BST) Thieving bastards Did you see this!? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:45, 30 August 2010 (BST) Nice. --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:21, 30 August 2010 (BST) Dealt in Lead I just voted for you as Mayor as well. Let's see if that makes things moving forward... -- Spiderzed▋ 13:30, 29 August 2010 (BST) Hell yeah! Thanks!--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 13:50, 29 August 2010 (BST) ...This reminds me...I need to start spamming text messages to a certain someone until he joins the game and votes for you... ----Axe Hack 15:06, 29 August 2010 (BST) I've just seen that you have the pencil recipe. I could use 5 pencils pretty soon. (Ballyamorca desperately needs commerce, and I'm gonna provide it with a general store.) I could provide you with enough sticks and 2 lead ores (climbing) to build them. Anything you could use in return? -- Spiderzed▋ 23:38, 29 August 2010 (BST) One iron ingot would be smashing.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:45, 30 August 2010 (BST) I'll email you my location.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 10:52, 30 August 2010 (BST) I have now enough lead ore and sticks to make 5 pencils, as well as 2 iron ores (which you can turn into 1 iron ingot if you have the recipe, which I don't). You regenerate 1 fatigue per minute, right? If so, I'll do a trip to your location around 2200 BST. -- Spiderzed▋ 18:04, 30 August 2010 (BST) Dead. Reconvene north of the river I told you about.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:13, 30 August 2010 (BST) I R in ur bolthole tradin ur goods. -- Spiderzed▋ 21:23, 30 August 2010 (BST) I'm fine in terms of things, but I'm overfatigued atm, so it could be tomorrow before I get those pencils to you.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:26, 30 August 2010 (BST) Yeah, I only found a corpse this morning in the spot where you were, so I assumed that the raw materials had already been robbed. All the better if the materials for the 5 pencils made it through. Else, I'd have some new lead ores. Which alt is DDR? Blondie? -- Spiderzed▋ 16:41, 1 September 2010 (BST) Yeah.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 16:42, 1 September 2010 (BST) Damn you're hatcheting! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:49, 1 September 2010 (BST) =D My Hatchet broke today. I no longer have a weapon.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 16:50, 1 September 2010 (BST) LFZ just asked a question on the alliance forum. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:55, 1 September 2010 (BST) Red beat me to it, but I left a resposne as well.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:14, 1 September 2010 (BST) Made it to the town hall. -- Spiderzed▋ 12:07, 5 September 2010 (BST) You don't have to make a stick run, I know a supply nearby. I'll e-mail it to you. -- Spiderzed▋ 14:44, 5 September 2010 (BST) I'm not in need of pencils anymore, as I could use a level-up and a gold nugget to learn myself to create enough pencils. Now if I could find a replacement hatchet, or at least the iron ingots to make a new one... But that's probably something I have to look for myself, as we have no miners at hand. -- Spiderzed▋ 06:47, 8 September 2010 (BST) I have 1 Iron Ingot in stock. I'm in the saloon right now, but I'll swing by up to the Town Hall later to drop it or whatever, Spidey! ----Axe Hack 23:53, 8 September 2010 (BST) Help yourself to up to 2000 twine while you're at it.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:54, 8 September 2010 (BST) I got hold of a revolver and 47 bullets for it in a ghost town shoppe. That would put you out of your ammo misery for a while (hopefully long enough to kill someone and steal his rare stuff, like iron ingots). Interested? -- Spiderzed▋ 19:37, 10 September 2010 (BST) I'm over-fatigued by 2700 points atm. I'd definitely be up for it when I can move again.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 19:44, 10 September 2010 (BST) Overfatigued by 2700? Hm, you should soon get an opportunity to use your new gun -- Spiderzed▋ 22:01, 11 September 2010 (BST) Third You really should have different passwords for your characters. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:43, 25 August 2010 (BST) Wai? Also, isn't it impossible to change passwords?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:46, 25 August 2010 (BST) That it be. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:48, 25 August 2010 (BST) Well, there we are then. Plus, it doesn't matter, because nobody knows my password.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:49, 25 August 2010 (BST) It's "password" isn't it? User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:01, 25 August 2010 (BST) No, it's I<3DavidCameron --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:13, 25 August 2010 (BST) How dare yee archive when I was under a hack attack... ----Axe Hack 01:45, 27 August 2010 (BST) Dulston I assume? Come say hi on the OBR Forum. Preferably with a tactical overview, a recent NT scan, and information on repair costs zombies etc. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:23, 31 August 2010 (BST) Registered an account, but apparently it needs to be verified before I can post.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:14, 31 August 2010 (BST) Ill shout at Maverick, hold on. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:17, 31 August 2010 (BST) you're in! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:54, 31 August 2010 (BST) Another reason you should use a real browser So you can view things like this. Yes, this is snide of me, but it's cool, and I wanted an excuse to post it. >_> —Aichon— 06:41, 2 September 2010 (BST) =P.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 09:05, 2 September 2010 (BST) omg!! worked in firefox btw, just ukltra ULTRA laggy.-- LEMON #1 16:43, 2 September 2010 (BST) Fool That is all! --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:16, 2 September 2010 (BST) Tee Hee ^.^ <3 --    Timmah!     Talk   04:41, 3 September 2010 (BST) too easy. I should pick a harder target --    Timmah!     Talk   19:46, 3 September 2010 (BST) I really should stop now. --    Timmah!     Talk   16:30, 4 September 2010 (BST) Ads Your ads have expired. Thank you, and have a nice day. ----Axe Hack 15:40, 4 September 2010 (BST) Yo! Just letting you know some open proxies just smacked your talk page with spam. I've undid it, so no harm done. Just waiting for Ross or someone now... ----Axe Hack 21:29, 4 September 2010 (BST) And I mean the DIL wiki... ----Axe Hack 21:29, 4 September 2010 (BST) It's on bitches!--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 21:34, 4 September 2010 (BST) And it's Ross to the rescue...Except he just blocked you just now. Now that's hilarious. ----Axe Hack 21:49, 4 September 2010 (BST) I should have left you banned. You know dropping stuff costs no fatigue? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:50, 4 September 2010 (BST) Yeah, but I don't want to. You see, I found Berserkas' storage centre, and he has 6000 twine amongst other things. So, if I drop it, he'll arrive and kill me. If I keep it, He'll kill me, I'll teleport back to base, and I'll have half his stuff.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:52, 4 September 2010 (BST) Lookie, lookie. The DiL Wiki is back online. ----Axe Hack 00:33, 5 September 2010 (BST) So much drama over Mycock. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:08, 5 September 2010 (BST) When I imported Mycock in to DiLWiki, it ripped it to shreds. People ask me if I intentionally used Mycock to assault DiLwiki, but I say it was accidental. I guess it should be expected that importing something as big as Mycock in to a wiki would tear it apart.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 14:18, 5 September 2010 (BST) Shits so Alim --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:58, 5 September 2010 (BST) As Promised... A FREE COOKIE Axe Hack has given Yonnua Koponen a cookie for something on Facebook ----Axe Hack 14:36, 7 September 2010 (BST) A FREE COOKIE Axe Hack has given Yonnua Koponen a cookie for something on Facebook Here, have a rat! Axe Hack has given Yonnua Koponen a rat for the hell of it.. ----Axe Hack 14:32, 11 September 2010 (BST) Yonnua Koponen votes Conservative I'm wondering; Would you recommend Tony Blair's "A Journey"? I'm interested, and even though I doubt it's out in Dutch stores yet, do you think it's worth a read? Sincerely, --Thadeous Oakley 22:41, 10 September 2010 (BST) Personally, I don't like Blair, and his book's filled with some pretty nonsensical stuff, but it could be a good read. It just depends if you like fiction books or not.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:43, 10 September 2010 (BST) Buy "Chariot of the Gods" by von Daniken first. It should help set the tone. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:58, 10 September 2010 (BST) LOL! -- LEMON #1 00:34, 11 September 2010 (BST) Fiction, a memoir? You're joking right? --Thadeous Oakley 23:03, 10 September 2010 (BST)) Well yeah. :P I was merely saying take it with a pinch of salt.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:04, 10 September 2010 (BST) Well of course, it's written by a politician after all. If I wanted an purely objective and factual flow of political information I'd read The Sun. --Thadeous Oakley 23:07, 10 September 2010 (BST) Murdoch's The Sun? You sir are the one who is joking. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:09, 10 September 2010 (BST) ;) --Thadeous Oakley 23:12, 10 September 2010 (BST) Get out of bed! [makes furnace noises through snuffle] f-f-f-f-f [in an Arnold voice] Get out of bed! Get out of bed! [pokes Yonnua with snuffle, Yonnua jumps out of bed] I'm Arnold Schnuffleupanegger, and it's very important that you get out of bed! Hasta la vista, baby! --Schnuffleupanegger 04:10, 12 September 2010 (BST) Tweak the blue! Whats the third wiki? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:21, 12 September 2010 (BST) Hell rising. Amazing promoted me the other day. Also, why tweak the blue?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:22, 12 September 2010 (BST) Because I don't like it, I feel the contrast should be more subtle. You playing hell rising then? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:28, 12 September 2010 (BST) Not really. I played a bit, but it didn't grab me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:29, 12 September 2010 (BST) Which faction? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:31, 12 September 2010 (BST) Vamp.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:31, 12 September 2010 (BST) Better?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:33, 12 September 2010 (BST) I'd of altered the other colour. Got my leadership nomination papers this week. Why not zombie? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:36, 12 September 2010 (BST) I'll have a look at it. Leadership nominations? Are you labour then? And I chose vamp because that seemed fun and exciting.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:38, 12 September 2010 (BST) No, but I'm in a certain union. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:45, 12 September 2010 (BST) Ah, that makes sense. Ah well, my vote is worth 100 times as much as your vote. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:46, 12 September 2010 (BST) Yes, but you care 100 times more. Thanks for the cades btw. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:47, 12 September 2010 (BST) No prob. Who are you voting for?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:47, 12 September 2010 (BST) I haven't read all the literature yet. But 4/1 odds on BoJO being the next conservative PM seem a bit short to me. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:55, 12 September 2010 (BST) Death to Amazing! His wikis houses 3page! IIRC the Devil claimed to be 3page on the Scroll Wars wiki...which is run by Amazing. ----Axe Hack 15:15, 12 September 2010 (BST) ... If you're on, the DiL wiki is in need of your Psycho powers. ----Axe Hack 15:27, 12 September 2010 (BST) Enthusiastic Comments Protection Request? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:10, 17 August 2010 (BST) Noes. Doesn't help anyone. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:11, 17 August 2010 (BST) No, he's backed off for now. If he continues, we can have one with arbitration.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:12, 17 August 2010 (BST) If you are soo certain that me posting a unbias statement in the article is wrong because i am a "zerger" then have kevin do a ip check on everyone in the group. It is clear, cut, and dry. Reviver for all 20:13, 19 August 2010 (BST) UPDATE SHITS GOIN DOWN. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 16:22, 16 August 2010 (BST) Discosaur Is that mandatory? Cuz nah..., I just want your group to hit stats :P Sorry to get your hopes up, feel free to remove me. Though I am planning on visiting the manhunt, just for my own little fun. Oh and I failed with the profile link, was just going to fix but you beat me to it. --Thadeous Oakley 23:35, 9 August 2010 (BST) About something else, does this function as a redirect for you? --Thadeous Oakley 11:05, 10 August 2010 (BST) Yeah, it works for me too now. For some reason my browser malfunctioned. --Thadeous Oakley 12:01, 10 August 2010 (BST) RE:Discosaurs My bad, done. I should probably pick up some combat skills first... when does it start? --Dawkins [T][P!][W!][♞] is currently: having his arm torn off by a zombie. 12:26, 10 August 2010 (BST) Never... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 05:58, 15 August 2010 (BST) RE: Discosaurs I'm a burnt out old man. Can't bring myself to play UD like before :P --Haliman - Talk 03:50, 12 August 2010 (BST) Dead in Lead How do I make moneys? --         02:30, 15 August 2010 (BST) WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKING I CAN'T FINGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE MONEY IN THIS GAME, NOWHERE WILL BUY MY ORES ;_; --         05:56, 15 August 2010 (BST) Because they're fucking Australian. User:Misanthropy/sig2 05:58, 15 August 2010 (BST) Kill peoplez. Also, you can make general stores, I think. If you buy the "General Store Blueprint" perk, then you can construct a Gen Store Blueprint and build one somewhere. Then sell shit.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 11:37, 15 August 2010 (BST) You in a town yet Yonnua? If not, I'll allow you to be mayor in that town.--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:28, 20 August 2010 (BST) I am not, at present. I'll be there in a few minutes.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:30, 20 August 2010 (BST) I'm in the town hall.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:35, 20 August 2010 (BST) Run for office :D--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:37, 20 August 2010 (BST) How? I have politics lev 1, but I see no button to do so.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:39, 20 August 2010 (BST) Click the town name its in there.--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:42, 20 August 2010 (BST) Done. :D:D --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:44, 20 August 2010 (BST) Voted for you, and if you have voted for yourself, we just wait.--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 15:48, 20 August 2010 (BST) I have indeed. Consider yourself Deputy Mayor.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 15:49, 20 August 2010 (BST) If i join can i has oyalties for one sec --         16:35, 20 August 2010 (BST) Oyalties? Sorry, i don't understand, you'll have to explain further.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:45, 20 August 2010 (BST) Search in lakes for silver dollars. Easy. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:04, 20 August 2010 (BST) Royalties. And IFLY ross! Do I need item? --         01:11, 21 August 2010 (BST) Hey, uh...You got that John Tucker fellow from the Union in the Shack next doors. I gave him another 15 or so damage, but who knows how much life he has left. >< ----Axe Hack 02:25, 25 August 2010 (BST) Dur The irony of you posting it under the "Pointless Job" header, though I'm 99% certain you did that on purpose. Well, your doing a nice job too. Not the most complicated of tasks, but meh. I'm going to bed now, I'll check in tomorrow (as usual hur) again but feel free to finish up without me. We need to rebel against slavedriver Ross btw >:(. --Thadeous Oakley 23:00, 17 August 2010 (BST) Arr I cordially accept your invitation to be a Discosaur. Because I'm worth it.-- Adward  23:12, 17 August 2010 (BST) Hell yes! Takign part in EVIL Manhunt?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:14, 17 August 2010 (BST) It appears to be dead. If it gets revived I'll rejoin up. :( -- Adward  23:19, 17 August 2010 (BST) The group? It isn't dead. Or do you mean the manhunt? If you mean the manhunt, it's still happening, and to my understanding, DDR was goign to organise it. If not, i will. It's definitely happenign though.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:20, 17 August 2010 (BST) I'm in again. I did mean the manhunt :D -- Adward  20:53, 18 August 2010 (BST) Yay! Also, it's the first contest in ross' Manhunt marathon, so you may be interested in looking in to that.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 20:59, 18 August 2010 (BST) ... Just maintaining my +1. Don't mind this message. ----Axe Hack 00:43, 21 August 2010 (BST) First mall piñata: Calvert or Treweeke? Hello there, it's been a couple of years since I last visited the wiki. I have something to ask that only you and perhaps boxy can answer. Some members of LUE has been active again under the LUEshi's Rangers group, and today they took down Calvert Mall. Not only that, but they turned the mall complex into a piñata. However I got into a disagreement with a member of the group who has been claiming Calvert was the first mall to be turned to a piñata. In the piñata talk page, I read that Treweeke was the first mall to be put to a piñata. But in the Calvert Mall page, someone from LUEshi's Rangers is claiming Calvert was the first. Could you please weigh in with your opinion on what happened? Thanks. --Aeon17x 15:42, 21 August 2010 (BST) Ah, thanks for the feedback. From what I hear from LUEshi's Rangers they seem to accept that the piñata of Treweeke is the first or at least happened before, but for some reason they are keen on pressing the issue that their piñata of Calvert was the first documented one, whatever it's worth. --Aeon17x 12:52, 22 August 2010 (BST) I'd say that there's no telling how many mall pinatas have gone unreported. Zombies break in one corner, ruin everything, but never bother to touch the cades in the other three corners. A survivor repairs and cades the first corner, leaves, and one of the occupying zombies ruins it again. Being completely accidental, no one would be able to claim responsibility (even if there were any groups around). The four corners of cades might never even be noticed in the brief time before someone breaks in. --VVV RPMBG 06:11, 23 August 2010 (BST) A New Event I could particularly use you help on organizing this new event I'm hosting. Discuss it on that page's talk page. ----Axe Hack 16:20, 21 August 2010 (BST) Awww i was getting all involved and shit. i guess with no nazi's to pick on it's back to being a meatpuppet. no seriously i think the sysop team did a great job on this one. and i hope i didn't cause too much trouble.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 22:29, 24 August 2010 (BST) Nah, you handled yourself well, imo. It's just time to put the final nails in Corn's coffin. Stick around, there's still plenty of drama and fun to go around.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:31, 24 August 2010 (BST) you mean like twisting thads nipples with locking vise grips for being an overzealous twat?----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 22:36, 24 August 2010 (BST) =P I like Thad. I think he has, despite occasional off moments, which we all have, the aptitude to become a solid member of the team. Soooo... :P --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:37, 24 August 2010 (BST) and yet another reason why i thought you would make a good sysop. Patience.----sexualharrison ¯\()/¯ 22:41, 24 August 2010 (BST) Thanks. =D --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 22:42, 24 August 2010 (BST) Donkey! Sneaky, hiding it in your sig like that. Do I get a donkey for every page you've posted on now? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:38, 5 August 2010 (BST) Nope, Mis got it about a month ago, so he's winnign by 1100 points. (IIRC). To the archive!--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:39, 5 August 2010 (BST) A challenger does not appear. :( User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:40, 5 August 2010 (BST) Must...resist...urge...to...nuke...page... Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:42, 5 August 2010 (BST) Jerrel So like, I noticed you keep on changing my signature. But what exactley do you do to it? It doesn't look any different.-- Jerrel tlk (82nd!) (Project Unwelcome!). 23:42, 3 August 2010 (BST) BCH spy investigations First, it's a truly bad move to put an IP out into the open for everyone to see. I'd recommend you to remove it from the DA forums and subsequent quotes. For further investigations, you might want to check other IPs with this, that or other whois services. Looking at the one you have given to the public, the IP belongs to a server of OVH, a French hosting company. Further investigation shows that it's used for a public proxy. While not being 100% sure, I'd rather suspect that Alice and Faulk have coincidentally used the same proxy to access the DA forums. Unless one of the other IPs of either Faulk or Alice happens to be a non-proxy, this shouldn't be sufficient proof, especially when I look at how different not only Faulk's and Gravesend's writing styles are, but also how Alice uses ProfileViewer while Faulk doesn't. Also note that the same IP adress alone won't be enough for Resens' ZL to list anyone. It's often useful for proving in the first place that alts belong to a single player. But if there isn't proof that those two alts have been within 10 blocks within 24 hours (i.e. screenshots, iwits or dumbwits), it isn't a matter for the ZL. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:19, 31 July 2010 (BST) Yes, I'm well aware of all of this, and it's largely the conclusion I reached. I've even said I wasn't saying they were zerging. I said if the IP matched with the IP of another member seen co-operating with them, it would look more likely. I never said anything like what you claim I've been saying. I also did all the things you said above. What is your relevance to this discussion whatsoever?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:26, 31 July 2010 (BST) I've read up the backlog on the DA forums now and seen that you've withdrawn the zerging suspicion and the Monday ultimatum. Seems to be settled then. As for relevance, I happen to be a zerg hunter and know a bit and another about tracking them down. I don't care about the group politics and the drama that seem to surround the whole incident. I only care about detecting zergs, or about keeping the ZL from being clogged up with false alarms while the actual zergers get away, depending how the investigations turn out. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:51, 31 July 2010 (BST) Yeah, the BCH forums also have some of it. Just asked how you fit in so that I could know. The main things I was waiting on were a comment from DeWolf and trying to work out where the Ip was coming from. I got the French proxy pretty quickly, but the evasive responses convinced me to get a comment from DeWolf first. As you say, it's mainly resolved, and I was only going to use the Zerg list if there was actually proof of zerging.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:05, 31 July 2010 (BST) ... ...+1. ----Axe Hack 00:36, 1 August 2010 (BST) The hell is this? Why do I get this every time I try to post to Boxy's talk page? My posts always go through, but I'm always shown that error message right after clicking submit.... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 00:01, 4 August 2010 (BST) Got something similar. After clicking save, I get a white page, though the save goes through regardless. Prolly server issues.--Thadeous Oakley 00:03, 4 August 2010 (BST) I know I've had quite a few issues here with the wiki lately. It isn't as bad with the game as it is the wiki, but it still occurs with both.... It hasn't been bad in the last three or so days,.... but I have had a bit of an issue with lag here lately.... things take several minutes to load,... and I don't understand why... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 00:19, 4 August 2010 (BST) I'm sick of you guys asking other sysops who don't know the answers so I have to feel like a dick just butting in like this. Basically, it's cause Boxy's talk page is too long and he's too lazy to archive it, so the reload fails every time. The message is still sent though. --         01:18, 4 August 2010 (BST) Surely asking Boxy would have been the best way to do this. User:Misanthropy/sig2 01:20, 4 August 2010 (BST) I don't suppose archiving his talk page would be in good faith huh? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 01:49, 4 August 2010 (BST) His archive is his own, and it's not breaking the wiki (even though it kinda looks like it is at first glance), so it should be left alone. Also, DDR, if you hadn't butted in, I would have come in with the same answer. *cue the shaking of fists* —Aichon— 05:22, 4 August 2010 (BST) It's not technically bad faith but don't do it anyway. --         06:10, 4 August 2010 (BST) I disagree. If his page is causing peoples browser to crash, then it's an error in the wiki that should be fixed. --Thadeous Oakley 17:19, 4 August 2010 (BST) Well, it's a good thing he fixed it yesterday then. :P —Aichon— 21:32, 4 August 2010 (BST) "who don't know the answers" - Of course I knew this one DDR! I even have to edit hack his talk from one of my computers to be able to access it. Your point stands though, the weird formatting questions would be best suited elsewhere.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 08:24, 4 August 2010 (BST) I didn't notice you hadn't replied yet, but half the time you still don't know the answers >=D --         08:41, 4 August 2010 (BST) --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 17:12, 4 August 2010 (BST) Tricell is back Tricell (a group you marked inactive back in January) has reformed and is active once again. Just to let you know. :D --Rohanzap 23:01, 5 August 2010 (BST) Promotion Ya, we'll see what happens. But anyway, thank you. --Thadeous Oakley 00:19, 6 August 2010 (BST) ... Damn you and your edit conflicting on A/VB... ----Axe Hack 17:06, 6 August 2010 (BST) Deleting User page:Diana Warren Yonnua, why did you delete my page? Did I set up something incorrectly? Please let me know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DianaWarrenUD (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. It's just one of those common things that pop up. We restrict pages about users or characters to existing only in your 'user namespace', which is any page named as a suffix to your username (for example, User:Misanthropy/Characters/Misanthropy is a page in my user namespace). Yonnua took the information on the page you created and moved it to your user page. This left behind a redirect page, which is just an empty page that'll point to the new page that it's been moved to, and it was just this empty redirect page that was deleted. If you want to set up more character pages, you'll just want to start them with User:DianaWarrenUD/ followed by whatever you want it to be named. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:45, 7 August 2010 (BST) Which I told you on your talk page. :P --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2 23:46, 7 August 2010 (BST) No problem. I'm sure you did. Its the first time I posted anything on wiki so while you were replying I was figuring it all out for myself. It kind of took a while because I'm still getting familiar with how this all works. Thanks for keeping it in line, and I was pretty sure I had done something wrong. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DianaWarrenUD (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. Don't worry. One of our main admins nearly got an official warning with his first edit. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:59, 7 August 2010 (BST) Of course I'm good at killing, and whilst I may not need a discsaurs alt I couldn't pass up a name like Philosiraptor. Anyway I gotta run to work but I will get on what I need to get on when I get back --    Timmah!     Talk   18:53, 8 August 2010 (BST) Testing 1,2,3...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:14, 18 July 2010 (BST) 4, 5, 6 User:Misanthropy/sig2 13:59, 18 July 2010 (BST) 7, 8, 9 --Thadeous Oakley 14:31, 18 July 2010 (BST) 10, 11, 45, 89, 100, banana... ----Axe Hack 16:08, 18 July 2010 (BST) Dear God, I know where we are!! We're either in England, or we're in Canada. That would explain the infectious bite, or why no one wants to be here, respectivly. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 18:17, 18 July 2010 (BST) Well yeah... It's the first one, Kevan lives there.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:18, 18 July 2010 (BST) Really? I always thought Malton was located on Mars. ;P ----Axe Hack 18:19, 18 July 2010 (BST) Well, with the lack of dentist, I can completly understand infectious bite. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 18:20, 18 July 2010 (BST) I told ya before. They're not bites. They're kisses. =) ----Axe Hack 18:22, 18 July 2010 (BST) The hell they are! -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 18:23, 18 July 2010 (BST) Of course they are! They're just sad that the survivors always reject them. ;) ----Axe Hack 18:30, 18 July 2010 (BST) By the way, fun fact, Britain has a better dental service than the USA.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:35, 18 July 2010 (BST) I think that goes for the entire British health care service compared to the US.--Thadeous Oakley 18:40, 18 July 2010 (BST) Well, it's all going to get better now, 'Cause I'm going to get me some of that there Obama Care. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 18:45, 18 July 2010 (BST) Well recently, seven of the top industrial countries were ranked in terms of their health service. the USA came last in pretty much everything, and last overall. Britain was first for efficiency and second overall, to the Netherlands. So pretty much every country involved is represented here.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:56, 18 July 2010 (BST) I guess you'd have to be an American to catch the Obama Care joke... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 20:31, 18 July 2010 (BST) Isn't there some sort of template about not knowing where Malton is? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 18:23, 18 July 2010 (BST) Where is Malton? Axe Hack thinks that Malton is on Mars. Or at least somewhere in space... ----Axe Hack 18:30, 18 July 2010 (BST) You know what? This way seems better... Where is Malton? Axe Hack thinks that Malton is Hell. ----Axe Hack 18:35, 18 July 2010 (BST) I thought there was a template about that. I randomly searched for Malton the other day on yahoo, and came up with a whole list of places,.... and was just dying to tell someone I had figured it out. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 18:45, 18 July 2010 (BST) This Point --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 10:34, 19 July 2010 (BST) My Latest Template I noticed you used my latest template on one of your sub pages. It seems to be one of the odd ones out. Just out of curiosity, what inspired it's placement on your sub page? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 00:23, 21 July 2010 (BST) ???? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 19:56, 26 July 2010 (BST) Template page. It's a template.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:02, 26 July 2010 (BST) But there are lots of templates.... What made you decided to include mine on your page? Or did you just like that one? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 21:52, 26 July 2010 (BST) liked it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:52, 26 July 2010 (BST) I see... I was curious... When I build templates in the future, it'll help me design something that will be used. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 01:13, 27 July 2010 (BST) The design was meh. It was the concept I liked.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:55, 27 July 2010 (BST) Axe Hack Advertisement Inc. This is a message informing you your ad has expired. We hope to do business with you again. ----Axe Hack 02:19, 24 July 2010 (BST) User:Misanthropy/The Barhah The deadline for the contest has ended, you are now invited to choose your favourite entry and help determine the winner. User:Misanthropy/sig2 01:12, 26 July 2010 (BST) Advice Thanks so much for the advice on images. I am clueless, so that helped a lot. --Axemaniac johnson 19:35, 27 July 2010 (BST) No problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:37, 27 July 2010 (BST) User:Misanthropy/The Barhah The deadline for the contest has ended, you are now invited to choose your favourite entry and help determine the winner. User:Misanthropy/sig2 01:15, 26 July 2010 (BST) You should probably vote.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:48, 27 July 2010 (BST) I don't see any kind of deadline on voting. --VVV RPMBG 20:52, 27 July 2010 (BST) No, it was just the deadline for entries. User:Misanthropy/sig2 20:57, 27 July 2010 (BST) So voting never ends? --VVV RPMBG 21:20, 27 July 2010 (BST) But we need to vote now! Then voting end early and we get a conclusion!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:20, 27 July 2010 (BST) Or we can draw it out for the next few months for extra drama. Like <Nationality> Idol! --VVV RPMBG 21:22, 27 July 2010 (BST) Heehaw Has the donkey on this page been claimed yet? =P ----Axe Hack 08:14, 28 July 2010 (BST) yes.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:31, 28 July 2010 (BST) wut Why waste your AP doing this at a revive point? User:Misanthropy/sig2 20:27, 28 July 2010 (BST) Its the safest place for him at the moment. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:30, 28 July 2010 (BST) You were alive. I believe it was ruled that that invalidates the "being at a revive point" clause.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:40, 28 July 2010 (BST) Jusr says "A kill at a Revive Point will not be counted". User:Misanthropy/sig2 21:34, 28 July 2010 (BST) It was only referring to the case where you're a zombie. If you were alive, then you were fair game. —Aichon— 22:06, 28 July 2010 (BST) Yeah, there was a discussion about it, but that'll be in the talk archive which i can't find.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:07, 28 July 2010 (BST) Talk:Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Manhunt 3#Other Stuff - Link is right there. :P —Aichon— 22:13, 28 July 2010 (BST) Mother fucker. Good thing he cocked it up then. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:21, 28 July 2010 (BST) I got you to six and some wanker healed you back to full. Then I got you down to about 15, and a bastard zombie killed us both.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:38, 28 July 2010 (BST) Be faster next time. URL targets help. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:55, 28 July 2010 (BST) Help.... Do you have any knowledge on this sort of thing? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:32, 29 July 2010 (BST) Ask Aichon, but I think they have to be uploaded to the main server, so that's probably be a job for Kevan, and I find it unlikely he would. There may be a way with more updated wiki tech. As I say, ask aichon, because Mis asked this recently, I just can't recall the answer.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:42, 29 July 2010 (BST) I never asked it, I just lamented that people didn't have the ones I was using. The fonts aren't uploaded to the wiki, they're based on what you have on your computer. For instance, I don't see Aichon's sig correctly because I don't have the font he uses, and 99% of the wiki couldn't see my old sig due to not having Fiolex Girls in their possession. It's not a site issue, just a personal thing. User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:09, 30 July 2010 (BST) As Mis said, it's a per user thing, not a wiki thing. There's nothing that can be done. —Aichon— 01:08, 30 July 2010 (BST) So,... I don't have the monotype corsiva font on my computer anywhere, at least not to the best of my knowledge,... and yet the font works. I guess I don't understand how it could be based on what I have on my computer,... as apposed to what's on the server. Just out of curiosity, how is your sig supposed to look Aichon? I see the first three letters in grey, and the last two in an orange/red... but no styling to the letters? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 01:20, 30 July 2010 (BST) If you have Office installed, you have Monotype Corsiva. And my sig uses the Cochin font, which looks like this. Also, there are six letters in my name, not five, and that color is maroon. —Aichon— 02:20, 30 July 2010 (BST) I guess there are six aren't there,... -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:34, 30 July 2010 (BST) I want to come back and add that my signiture looks different to you than it does to me... I also woke up this morning, and looked in the mirror,... only to discover that I have really big feet. The only thing I could think was "Dear God,... you people must think I'm an asshole." -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 03:36, 30 July 2010 (BST) It looks that way (aichon's view) to me on the several computers I use UDWiki on. --         03:40, 31 July 2010 (BST) Normally, I run on a widescreen monitor, and would be suspect of that when it comes to these things. However, checking again on a neighbors computer,... it looks the same on mine,.. there are only a couple minor differences though. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 04:23, 31 July 2010 (BST) All mine are widescreen, they look the same as Aichon. Show printscreen, perhaps. It'd be because you have a varied font package or something methinks. --         05:42, 31 July 2010 (BST) Cookie OH NOM NOM NOM! --Thadeous Oakley 12:13, 11 July 2010 (BST) First You really need to either get rid of the "+" button code just above this, or do away with the "comments above this line" bit down the bottom, cause that button is always gonna add messages below your line. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:52, 7 July 2010 (BST) The plus button is just there because I need the code. If someone refuses to read the one sentence that tells them where to put their comments, then they're to blame when I don't read their comment properly.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:00, 8 July 2010 (BST) I'm gonna go ahead and claim like eleven hundred donkeys based on your sig. User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:03, 11 July 2010 (BST) None of them link to Example Page. I used the hash and the word "Donkey" so that my sig doesn't break on talk pages.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:33, 11 July 2010 (BST) Actually, why not. You are now in the lead with 1100 points.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:33, 11 July 2010 (BST) Possible vandalism? Is this vandalism? I think its the same person, just copying the information off of an old account,... I imagine as a sysop, you could check the IP to find out, and go from there? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 22:03, 9 July 2010 (BST) Nope, that's vandalism.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:06, 9 July 2010 (BST) I think. He claims to be the same guy, but his IP isn't showing anything. Could be that checkuser doesn't have any info left on the old ip. Best leave it for another op.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:07, 9 July 2010 (BST) Yeah, almost certain this is the case. Looks like the same user to me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:08, 9 July 2010 (BST) Should we submit it on the proper page, and go from there? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 22:09, 9 July 2010 (BST) Well, no, because it isn't vandalism.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:11, 9 July 2010 (BST) If you suspect it is vandalism, why not ask if its the same fellow? You could even offer to turn the old page into a redirect.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:15, 9 July 2010 (BST) He says on his new user page that it is, so I'll offer him the redirect.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:18, 9 July 2010 (BST) "Editme" We're good. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:25, 12 July 2010 (BST) =D:D:D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:28, 12 July 2010 (BST) But we can be even better. [1]. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:30, 12 July 2010 (BST) Did you just translate the US Constitution into cyrillic? ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:54, 12 July 2010 (BST) Quite possibly.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:56, 12 July 2010 (BST) Damn Commie. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:57, 12 July 2010 (BST) [2] ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:59, 12 July 2010 (BST) I can't figure it out... I placed a vote against Jerrel, in his second bid. You can see where I placed my bid against him here, but when you look at the archived version of it, my vote against him isn't there. I can't seem to find where it was removed, or why. Can you help me make heads or tails of it? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:16, 13 July 2010 (BST) Diffrent promotion bid in archive--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:19, 13 July 2010 (BST) Yep. You're looking at one from a few months ago. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:20, 13 July 2010 (BST) Yeah, DDR moved it to talk. It's technically vandalism, so it isn't archived.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:20, 13 July 2010 (BST) Oh I see... must of been placing to many bids to close togethor? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:21, 13 July 2010 (BST) Take a look. ;) —Aichon— 23:40, 13 July 2010 (BST) Election I demand that you re-do the election so that I may run and win. It's a sham! A SHAM I TELL YOU --Karloth Vois ¯\(°_o)/¯ 21:42, 16 July 2010 (BST) Cheater Yonnua Koponen cheats. Deal with it.  ;) ----Axe Hack 01:13, 18 July 2010 (BST) Yoooohooo I got a sig that's not cooperating. I hear you're the man to see. --Natasha Fatale 00:51, 3 July 2010 (BST) I already posted on your talk page about it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:10, 3 July 2010 (BST) Oh, you are good. -- 01:40, 3 July 2010 (BST) Bah, no one asks me for wikihelp any more... bitch moan whine etc. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:56, 3 July 2010 (BST) AHMH3 I'm doing this as a double check on the number of contestants, so if you don't mind, please sign the list. ----Axe Hack 02:44, 30 June 2010 (BST) Heh So, how's that rat with a link to my userpage at the bottom of Michaleson's userpage look? Looks like a +1 for me. ;D ----Axe Hack 15:46, 30 June 2010 (BST) Pff, you need 300 to advance one place in the rankings. I'm not worried.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:00, 30 June 2010 (BST) I did it before, I'll do it again. Even if there are a lack of newbies on the wiki each day... ----Axe Hack 16:03, 30 June 2010 (BST) Not before I get the 100 I need to beat DDR!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:08, 30 June 2010 (BST) From this day forth, I dub thee teh bastard who got away... ----Axe Hack 00:43, 1 July 2010 (BST) Fail. I'm protected by the spirit of Mother Russia.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:46, 1 July 2010 (BST) Fix your sig! User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:48, 1 July 2010 (BST) I assume you don't mean me?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:49, 1 July 2010 (BST) No, I mean my nemesis. ¬_¬ User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:50, 1 July 2010 (BST) Eh. I'm too lazy to make the background transparent. ----Axe Hack 00:51, 1 July 2010 (BST) GO!! Let's get this party started! -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:22, 3 July 2010 (BST) Mayor NOTE: All Offers must now include the position of Home Secretary of Malton--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:21, 4 July 2010 (BST) KyleStyle could use your vote. I've been waiting for this day since KyleStyle For Everything and it would be well good if it happened :3 Kyle supports integration so if mayoral appointments come up you can have your choice :) ♥ Moonie Talk | Kyle For Mayor 00:54, 4 July 2010 (BST) You're winning so far, so long as he gives me a powerful appointment. I'm voting on the 5th or 6th, so we'll see if anyone can top his offer.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:37, 4 July 2010 (BST) I'll link you in my sig, possibly making you #1 user. User:Misanthropy/sig2 16:45, 4 July 2010 (BST) Possibly. You may be winning if you make it a permanent link in your signature, and all future signatures, enforceable on VB via an arbie ruling and hence have no capacity to remove it once you've won. If that offer is accepted, it's currently winning, but I'll wait for a retort from Kyle.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:52, 4 July 2010 (BST) ...Maybe. User:Misanthropy/sig2 16:59, 4 July 2010 (BST) You need my vote to overtake Kyle. And remember, I can always swap to his side if you fail to satisfy me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:00, 4 July 2010 (BST) I never fail to satisfy. User:Misanthropy/sig2 17:02, 4 July 2010 (BST) Well then, you know where I stand.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:10, 4 July 2010 (BST) Oh please. Regardless of which way you go I'll just get the BBK hounds to shove Kyle further into the lead >=D --         17:26, 4 July 2010 (BST) =O But you're removing my power as kingmaker! Although, I could just go back to the DA forums and push through the meatpuppets who I got to vote for me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:28, 4 July 2010 (BST) Cheater Yonnua Koponen cheats. Deal with it. ----Axe Hack 18:25, 4 July 2010 (BST) That's Home Secretary Yonnua Koponen to you!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:25, 4 July 2010 (BST) He's my new Norman Tebbit, he is. User:Misanthropy/sig2 18:27, 4 July 2010 (BST) Now, to deal with Ross...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:29, 4 July 2010 (BST) Put some red links in your sig and update a Danger Report about 300 times. User:Misanthropy/sig2 18:30, 4 July 2010 (BST) ...Can I be Secretary of Defense? You can use my army... >< ----Axe Hack 18:31, 4 July 2010 (BST) I thought of something better. Check his talk page.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:31, 4 July 2010 (BST) Timestamps Can be confirmed via edit history. This is how it works at the Wikipedia. Because they actually know how to work the software. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:34, 5 July 2010 (BST) Legally, a vote requires making your mark. The wiki software records a timestamp, I was merely transcribing it to the more publicly viewable page for the benefit of bureaucratic fucks. This red tape oppression by entrenched authorities will not stand! ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:45, 5 July 2010 (BST) Stop trying to get around this. Here it comes; once more and I'm sending you to vandal banning for impersonation for fiddling with other users signatures. Your other option includes actually getting those people to come back and fix it themselves. Precedent is with Yonnua, and this is pretty much the ONLY thing we've ever done to restrict all of your meatpuppetry and it's literally the only thing they could have done wrong for us to have stricken the vote, and if they can't get that right, it's no dice. Get them to come back else leave them, it's simple. --         07:49, 5 July 2010 (BST) And removing votes is vandalism too, so stop digging a deeper hole for yourself and please stop creating more mess for us to wade through. --         07:51, 5 July 2010 (BST) That would be an edit conflict. And my mistake. Thankfully this is a wiki and such thins are easily fixed. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:56, 5 July 2010 (BST) SHOW ME IN THE RULES and I will cease. Until such time, go ahead and abuse your authority. I dare you to ban me. Go on, show your true colours. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:53, 5 July 2010 (BST) I just realised. The best thing about this is that you've incorrectly used the unsigned template. That's actually kind of hilarious. But seriously, if the Humanative Party is going to win, which I do want it to, it has to win legitimately and through the rules. Sorry Rev, but this is how it has to be.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:00, 5 July 2010 (BST) Polite cough. Also, it's been a long time and different wikis do it differently. (Few are as cluster-fucked as this one, though.) ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 17:47, 5 July 2010 (BST) I don't get it... (The polite cough bit.)--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:49, 5 July 2010 (BST) Actually… You may want to do that. F'realz. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 15:29, 5 July 2010 (BST) Grim s Unbanned him because an email huh? And not our arbie ruling? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:10, 5 July 2010 (BST) Arbies ruling doesn't have jurisdiction to unban a user, who requested a ban, against their will. If they ask for it, sure. Plus now I have an email from Grim.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:11, 5 July 2010 (BST) I know, I was trying to be funny is all. When did you get his email? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:14, 5 July 2010 (BST) 23 minutes before the timestamp I said I got it on the Misconduct page. It took me until then to notice it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:16, 5 July 2010 (BST) I was just kind of curious... I thought maybe you had it a few days prior, when our arby case started. So if you don't mind me asking,... what the hell was that really all about? -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 23:21, 5 July 2010 (BST) The arbies case or the email?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:22, 5 July 2010 (BST) The arby case between Mis, and Axe. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 00:53, 6 July 2010 (BST) The arby case stemmed from the "+1" war between Axe and Mis, and, to a lesser extent, me. That in turn stems from Signature Race, an age old competition basically involving becoming the most linked user on the wiki. That used to be Axe, but, after he left for ages, Mis added the sysops' names to the welcomenewbie template, giving us each roughly 8000 extra links. Axe Hack and Mis are now in a heated race to beat each other, etc. And the Misconduct case was just a humourous result of that.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:55, 6 July 2010 (BST) Which is essentially what I got from it,... but I was hoping there was something I missed. -∞ Poodle of Doom ∞ 01:52, 6 July 2010 (BST) Damn... I want to create a table collapsible. Apparently, the wiki program doesn't understand the following code: {| class="wikitable collapsible" ! Simple collapsible table |- | Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet |} On wikipedia, that's the code for a collapsible table. Unfortunatly, the UD Wiki doesn't reconize the command. So, do you know how to make collapsible tables? -Poodle of DoomM! T 00:35, 28 June 2010 (BST) I know why there's a problem, but I have no idea how to fix it. Since UDwiki runs on a very old version of MediaWiki, it doesn't have all the features. Try asking someone liek Aichon or the Rooster. They'll be best for this sort of thing, if it's possible.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:37, 28 June 2010 (BST) I brought this up with Aichon not too long ago. It's a case of Wikipedia, Wikia et al running a far more advanced version of the software than we currently use here. I wanted it for a collabsible WN template. :( User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:38, 28 June 2010 (BST) While your here Mis... you don't have any way to do it? -Poodle of DoomM! T 00:39, 28 June 2010 (BST) You want a collapsible table, I want the html code for making a poll to work here, but we can't get everything...Unless Kevan updates... ----Axe Hack 00:41, 28 June 2010 (BST) Poodle, Mis just said that he asked me about it (presumably because he didn't know how to do it), and that I told him I didn't think it was possible, so now you're asking him if he knows how to do it? That...doesn't make much sense to me, I have to say. Anyway, the issue is that the only code we have in the CSS that addresses things like this is as follows: table.collapsed tr.collapsable { display: none; } In case you can't follow that easily, it's basically just a way of making parts of a table disappear. The problem is that we have no way to toggle it (i.e. they can be disappeared upon creation, but they'll have no way to come back). For that, you need javascript, and we can't use javascript here, nor does the CSS insert the necessary javascript when you use it (which is what I believe the newer wiki software does). Long story short, I don't see how it can be done without changes to the CSS at the very least (which, technically, I suppose could be done since sysops have access to the CSS file and can edit it, I believe). —Aichon— 01:11, 28 June 2010 (BST) I missed the part where he said he asked you. Sorry... and could I petition you to edit it, if you're able? -Poodle of DoomM! T 01:13, 28 June 2010 (BST) We'd at least need some discussion on the issue first, and then I'd want to consult with Rooster to make sure it's possible and that we're not screwing things up with the code (basically, I'd want any code we were adding to the CSS file to be well vetted). Adding collapsible tables would probably involve use of CSS3 pseudoclasses, which not all browsers support (I'm looking at you, IE), so we'd have to write the CSS carefully so that it gracefully degraded in those cases. And, once again, that's assuming it's possible at all, which I'm not entirely sure of, given that this would by no means be the normal way of doing it. I'd have to do some experimentation. —Aichon— 01:25, 28 June 2010 (BST) Perhaps we could hold a petition for Kevan to upgrade again, and in the meantime, hold this particular discussion on said petitions discussion page? If you're able to upgrade the CSS, then we could forgo the upgrade, and if not,... then we'd still be running the petition for the upgrade anyway. Sound fair? -Poodle of DoomM! T 01:41, 28 June 2010 (BST) A policy would be the way to go, just like last time this sort of thing happened, but you'd need to identify concrete benefits to upgrading, since we get by just fine for the most part as it is. Also, I think you might misunderstand me a bit here. I'm not talking about upgrading the CSS to a newer version, but rather adding our own unique stuff, which will require a bit of work. I very much so doubt we can just go and copy a "collapsible" class from wikipedia's CSS since their extensions probably parse out the class name and then insert the appropriate javascript on page save, which we don't have the luxury of doing without installing some extensions. —Aichon— 01:55, 28 June 2010 (BST) I kind of assumed that was what you meant. All I was getting at is the fact that we could tackle it from two fronts to try to solve the problem.... either way. If I set up the petition, would you proof read it when I'm done to double check the facts and what not? I'm not really good with the whole computer software thing... -Poodle of DoomM! T 02:40, 28 June 2010 (BST) Well, if you want to put it up in your sandbox or something and then ping me on my talk page, I can take a look over it, but if it's going up for discussion or as a policy, everyone, myself included, will comment on it anyway, so all you'd get is me pointing out any issues I see in advance. I'd honestly just suggest going straight to discussion since I'll be commenting on it regardless. —Aichon— 05:00, 28 June 2010 (BST) What I was thinking was maybe typing it up, and sending your way via email, if your up for that? Either way is fine with me though. I'll get started. -Poodle of DoomM! T 05:07, 28 June 2010 (BST) You know, I'm not the brightest when it comes to computers, but it would seem to me that wikpedia is running on a slightly older version than we are. Am I reading this wrong? -Poodle of DoomM! T 01:08, 28 June 2010 (BST) Yep, you're misreading it. Version 1.9.3, which is what we're running, is MUCH earlier than version 1.16, which is what they're running (note that it's version 1.16, not 1.1.6, that they're running). Our version is about 3 years behind the curve. Plus, they have a load more extensions installed than we do. —Aichon— 01:25, 28 June 2010 (BST) I would like it to be known that wikipedia is in fact retarded when it comes to numbers. User:Misanthropy/sig2 01:39, 28 June 2010 (BST) How do you figure? -Poodle of DoomM! T 01:42, 28 June 2010 (BST) Right, 1.16 should be the same as the fraction 116/1000. They're running on the assumption that it is .7 greater that 1.9, which is actually 2.6 - I know that they're using it as a version notation, but if they don't intend to call a version 2.0 yet, when they created the version after 1.9 they should have retroactively named the preceding versions 1.01 - 1.09 to avoid confusion. User:Misanthropy/sig2 01:46, 28 June 2010 (BST) It's standard numbering convention and has been for decades, if not centuries. Just look at an outline for a large paper (or perhaps a journal?) or any other numbering system that allows for subpoints. It also shouldn't be retroactively renamed, since that'd create issues with version control (VC) systems, links, documentation, etc. —Aichon— 01:55, 28 June 2010 (BST) To add some more, it's not a matter of fractions at all, so when you reach 1.10, it doesn't roll over to 2.0, nor should it. If you want a different way to think about it, it's basically like a tree that we're slowly filling out, much the same as we have scientific classification trees for all species. So, just as an American Black Bear is kingdom Animalia, phylum Chordata, class Mammalia, order Carnivora, suborder Caniformia, family Ursidae, a software release might be Version 4, Improvement 3, Update 8, Bug Fix 6 (i.e. 4.3.8.6). Scientific classification uses names, we use numbers. Same idea though, and to someone like me, it doesn't make any more sense to make 1.10 become 2.0 than it does to call a bear a fish. ;) —Aichon— 02:10, 28 June 2010 (BST) That ours is older? Because 9 comes before 16. :P —Aichon— 01:55, 28 June 2010 (BST) You computer men make us mathematicians cry. User:Misanthropy/sig2 02:11, 28 June 2010 (BST) Well, if you don't like periods because you confuse them for the decimal point, we could also use dashed instead. Would it make more sense if 1-16 came after 1-9-3? Actually, as a gamer, that sort of notation actually looks familiar to me already >_<. —Aichon— 02:16, 28 June 2010 (BST) Yeah that's better. Now if you'll excuse me I have an Axe Hack to go deal with. User:Misanthropy/sig2 02:23, 28 June 2010 (BST) I was actually kind of curious as to what Mis meant,... that's all. -Poodle of DoomM! T 02:43, 28 June 2010 (BST) Just curious about this... When you take someone to vandal banning,... do you normally run an IP check to see edits coming from other accounts with similar, or the same IP('s)? --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Poodle of doom (talk • contribs) at an unknown time. Usually, at least one person does it, yes.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:05, 27 June 2010 (BST) Sorry about forgetting to sign my post earlier... I shouldn't forget... anyway.... getting back on track,... what do you do for people who have a general IP? Like one you'd find on a network, or LAN? Something you might encounter at a library,... or on AOL for example. How would you go about finding out if there is a difference between a vandal, and say, someone who's visited the same local library, or lives down the street from them? -Poodle of DoomM! T 23:04, 27 June 2010 (BST) Well, there would usually be subtle differences for most of those cases. Not for libraries, althoguh I do not believe it's coem up. personally, I'd ask DDR, seeing as he lives in a close proximity to several "would-be" vandals. He probably knows more than me.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:06, 27 June 2010 (BST) Like you say, Libraries, schools, LANS wouldn't be different. I'm also thinking about those of us who occasionally steal our neighbors Wi-Fi... I would be curious to know how one would decypher such a thing... -Poodle of DoomM! T 23:15, 27 June 2010 (BST) Generally, if there's an issue like that, the effected party emails a sysop, and it's dealt with pretty quickly. Can't say I ever recall it occuring though. --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:16, 27 June 2010 (BST) How would someone be able to prove that though? If I were to log onto this account, via a library,... and vandalised something,... you could think I was some other vandal,.... and there would be no way for me to actually prove otherwise... -Poodle of DoomM! T 23:27, 27 June 2010 (BST) If you leave your account logged on in a public place, that's your own fault really. Just make sure you never say to stay logged on, and if you have done it, change your password as soon as possible. Ultimately, if your account is taken over by a serial vandal, there's nothing we can do but ban the old account, you get a new one, and we set up redirects to your new account. However, if it looks like you've done it on purpose (e.g. vandalism targetted at people you don't like, it taking place suspiciously soon after this conversation) then we have the common sense to deal with it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:32, 27 June 2010 (BST) I didn't say anything about leaving my account logged on. What I said was if I used a public space, and vandalised something, and you did an IP lookup, saw that it was from a former career vandal, I could be perma banned based on that,.... even though I'm actually not the career vandal. See? -Poodle of DoomM! T 23:36, 27 June 2010 (BST) It would be dealt with case by case in that instance. The chances of stumbling across a library where a career vandal had recently (checkuser logs aren't permanent) caused major vandalism would be phenomenally low. My advice, don't vandalise the wiki. Then you don't run the risk.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:39, 27 June 2010 (BST) Not saying I would,... but there's a reason why I asked. -Poodle of DoomM! T 23:42, 27 June 2010 (BST) What is the reason, may I ask?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:43, 27 June 2010 (BST) It's a surprise. -Poodle of DoomM! T 23:55, 27 June 2010 (BST) Just to add my 2<insert local currency here>, in the case of something like AOL or an ISP using a bank of addresses for everyone (which is increasingly becoming less common to see, and is only really the norm with dial-up any more), we'd see multiple IP addresses for the same person since they would have gotten different addresses each time they signed on, meaning that it'd be pretty obvious what was going on. It's then possible to check the ownership of the IP addresses, as well as their locality, to see if they then come from a specific region. If it's a legitimate ISP, those IP addresses will all map to the same region, but if they're using proxies, the IPs will likely come from all over. As for libraries and other places of public access, as Yon said, the odds are phenomenally low, and vandals generally have a method to their madness that gives us an easy confirmation. If we see the two accounts acting in what could be considered a concerted fashion (e.g. to give something like a case we've seen before, Account A is in a group, while Vandal Account B, which shares an IP address with A, is vandalizing the pages of other groups in A's group's suburb,), it's pretty obvious what's what. 99 times out of 100 in this age of broadband, they're the same user anyway if they have the same IP. I can't actually recall the last time I saw two legitimately different people with the same IP, whether here, on forums where I have had admin access over the years, or elsewhere. —Aichon— 00:40, 28 June 2010 (BST) Hmm. It's a tough game answering your questions because it really depends on the context, the short answers are; if someone gets taken to vandal banning he's IP checked yes, but only if the account is suspicious or new, or its their first infraction, but 95% of the time if they are a wiki regular like you or I or Yonnua people won't bother. When it comes to IP address sharing, generally if two accounts come up as the same IP under Checkuser, we are more or less inclined to assume they are run by the same person, or at least two people in the same place (ie. the account/s aren't secure). If the IP's aren't the exact same area but there is enough evidence to support they are the same, then seeing if the IP's are in similar areas can help. Example is here where I put Jack Heins up for being a suspected alt of permabanned griefer "anonsantlerville" and with only IP evidence of same provider/location it was enough evidence. All the past members of the BBK have a laundry list of retarded IP/meapuppeting related cases against their name, since (I think) they were one of the largest IRL-based groups of the last few years, 90% of the 50 members (me included) lived within 10 km's of each other. Some of the worst involved Shakey60, Buzz Killington, and when J3D was a sysop and got caught using the same IP as Nallan on an occasion. If you want, I can give some examples but it won't prove much. Really, all in all the sysops just do what they can with the evidence given to them, IP checks can be used as solid evidence and usually are, but we are aware of its limitations and do our best to compensate when it seems necessary. --         04:59, 28 June 2010 (BST) The only reason why I ask is because I was thinking that perhaps we could have some sort of discussion on adopting a policy of not weighting as much in situations where there is a preponderance of other evidence, simply because of the potiential for it to be explained away. But it really doesn't seem necessary. Thanks for the answers gentlmen. -Poodle of DoomM! T 05:12, 28 June 2010 (BST) There is a rotten irony in a policy which is supposed to encourage us to make the right choices based on evidence by disregarding the only quantitative evidence we mostly ever have. Either way, no probs. --         09:12, 28 June 2010 (BST) Sorry. M and I appear to be eating up your talk page with our group discussion. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:57, 13 June 2010 (BST) Bloody Capital letters That is all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:59, 15 June 2010 (BST) Party You're a neo-nazi now? Also, Donkey on your userpage. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:48, 25 June 2010 (BST) if youre a DUP man now I will stab you buddy dont forget i can get your location easily and i drink just enough to follow through User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:50, 25 June 2010 (BST) No, I'm now a member of the Labour Party.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:51, 25 June 2010 (BST) What's that? Is that some sort of government system that doesn't involve letting a rock make all your major decisions? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:12, 26 June 2010 (BST) ...It's a party?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:15, 26 June 2010 (BST) Only if the rock says it's Snoo-Snoo night, otherwise things are pretty dull around here. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:42, 26 June 2010 (BST) Malton Manhunt/Axe Hack's Manhunt 3 This is a reminder to you, and all the other contestants, that AHMH3 begins in 5 days as of this post. The playing area is the top 16 suburbs in a 4x4 formation on the Northwest of the map. You are expected to be in the area at the start of the Manhunt, so if you're not already in the area, get moving! And happy hunting to you. ----Axe Hack 16:23, 26 June 2010 (BST) Already there. Thanks for the message. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:24, 26 June 2010 (BST) Cough He's Watching You... Axe Hack has his eyes on this User. All seven of them. ----Axe Hack 01:36, 28 June 2010 (BST) What is this? Do you know? -Poodle of DoomM! T 04:08, 23 June 2010 (BST) Not really much point asking him since it's so old he'd only find out by doing something you can do yourself: Look at "what links here". It's a generic sentence that was meant to be reproduced as a NB for search odd data collation, back when a group of people took it upon themselves to document the search odds of items in Malton. It's practically useless and could easily be deleted if someone just copied and pasted the text in the template over its calls on the Search Data pages instead of this template --         04:24, 23 June 2010 (BST) Yeah, what DDR said. I may work through and clear the links later, if I have time, and remember.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:24, 23 June 2010 (BST) Thanks for the help! Demerger This user helped in the great demerging of location pages. Thanks for your work demerging location pages. While the job was tedious, your assistance was invaluable in completing the task. As thanks for helping to improve this wiki, have template. ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 01:22, 13 June 2010 (BST) Signature Done. And thanks. -- Skoll Talk | RRF Gore Corps BB3 06:28, 25 June 2010 (BST) You Yonnua Koponen said: As someone with a brainrotted feral death cultist You know what I'm saying... User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:24, 10 June 2010 (BST) I run a bunch of those type guys. Currently griefing RR. Enlist! General barhah and anti-zerg campaigns need you! or anyone... User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:28, 10 June 2010 (BST) RR doesn't zerg, and they even maintain DNR lists for zergs they've confirmed. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:02, 13 June 2010 (BST) I laugh at you. One of their members operating in Millen Hills is zerg listed, we've spotted them reviving zergs, and when we asked them not to, they point-blank refused. User:Misanthropy/sig2 02:12, 13 June 2010 (BST) If they revive zergs, it's by accident. I have an alt in RR, and we keep a list of known zergs that we add to our contacts list and refuse to revive. You should be warned that a lot of people are adding tags and committing crimes to make us look bad; we get anti-group graffiti with a "from RR" tag on it all around Houldenbank, and I've been killed too many times by "RR" members. Have you gone to the RR forums and reported this? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 02:49, 13 June 2010 (BST) Yes. I was told in no uncertain terms that RR policy is to give "unbiased" revives, regardless of zerging. When I and other pressed the issue, RR clammed up and refused to budge. If you're in RR, you can find a good deal of it in the Millen Hills Status Report thread (even if you aren't a member it's a public thread). Both RDD and With Blackjack And Hookers were involved in questioning. You might also note extensive the "I know you are, what am I" defense. User:Misanthropy/sig2 02:54, 13 June 2010 (BST) this? I see our leaders saying that we don't condone zerging and keep our own DNR lists for the matter, and that the person who is making the request is acting like a prick. RR fights zergers when they find them, and DNR list them when we have evidence, but they also hate rudeness. You could probably go on their forums and ask them not to revive suburb-wide known RRF death cultists in an asenine tone and get told off for it; now, they wouldn't go and revive the RRF cultists, but they'd sure give you an earful. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 03:08, 13 June 2010 (BST) Odd, because I'm seeing senior members and your group's leader both deciding that it's better to go to war with PKer groups than to just not revive zergs, as well as moving discussion to private sections (a point suggested by a zerg), and being told to leave when links are provided to resenz. Also several posts defending zerg revives. You might note Skull Grin and Saint Gambi offering help at first before turning hostile after continued spin and refusal, which makes sense, given their involvement with the Zerg Liste. User:Misanthropy/sig2 03:33, 13 June 2010 (BST) You raise valid points. On one hand, I've seen tons of zergers get blacklisted by our group, and even been a part of the movement. On the other hand, the default open revive policy we extend does leave an opening for zergers to take advantage of our generosity. I still object to the notion that RR zergs or supports zerging, but I do acknowledge that we don't explicitly ban it unless it inconveniences us. Perhaps an accurate description would be that they are apathetic towards it? I personally hate zergs, but not being an RR leader, all I can do is offer the people fighting the zergs a free revive. RR's mission is to provide revives for everyone as much as possible. While I admit that we could be doing more to fight zerging, I really don't think it's accurate to say we actively support it. As for zerging members, I reiterate that many people take our tags without permission. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 03:50, 13 June 2010 (BST) Except that your zerging member has "Senior Member" status on the forum, which obviously isn't simply a case of mistaken identity or false tagging. User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:42, 13 June 2010 (BST) Which member? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 20:14, 13 June 2010 (BST) Lol, edit conflict.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20: GauchoSD (see Resenz link above). User:Misanthropy/sig2 21:04, 13 June 2010 (BST) Two screenshots of him and an alt, both dead, in buildings on opposite ends of a suburb, with no timestamp or data proving they've been taken at the same time, and no evidence of the alts interacting at all. It seems much more likely to me that the list entry comes from the pissing contest the two groups were having then concrete zerging proof. I don't know about your standards Mis, but that's not good enough proof for me. Heck, I've even had two alts within 8 blocks once or twice when I've been running long distances without checking the map too closely. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:08, 13 June 2010 (BST) I trust the judgement of the Resenz team, especially The Huntsman, who informed me of the listing. I also find it suspect that when this was pointed out to Gaucho he simply responded by accusing everyone opposed to him of zerging, rather than even attempting to clear his name or sort out any possible mishap. If RR were in any way opposed to zerging they'd have at least got him to clear his listing, at the very least. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:11, 13 June 2010 (BST) <---------- I don't think they care; they have this big thing about being above politics. They don't care about PK lists or Zerg lists or DNR lists, they revive everyone who they don't already have precident to believe will prevent them from reviving others. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:56, 13 June 2010 (BST) Demerged locations They need to have their incoming links diverted before they can be deleted as scheduled. I'll help you clean up the ones you just deleted, starting from the bottom and working up, but that was the reason I didn't delete those other ones earlier, since I prefer that the person posting them delete them on their own first. —Aichon— 08:07, 8 June 2010 (BST) i'm drunk and listening to the massive fanale of francis the mute YEA Hey bro, the A/MR post you made isn't totally necessary here, I'm not sure if you knew this but I'm here to just give you a nyudge to say: as a sysop you don't have to report when moving. cool perk huh? not really, but you get the idea, so just in case you didn't know those good ol' ops can just move at will (more or less) that's how it goes, bro, good luckj ;D --         17:39, 15 May 2010 (BST) I love drunk sysoping. User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:38, 16 May 2010 (BST) Beer and power... i should get in on that--Arthur Dent BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 07:37, 16 May 2010 (BST) But I wasn't sysoping ;D --         09:28, 16 May 2010 (BST) Then get some beer and start sysoping! This just isn't good enough!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:15, 16 May 2010 (BST) IRCs. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:10, 23 May 2010 (BST) Where are you playing? I'm throwing a massive party; want to come? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:39, 17 May 2010 (BST) Inconveniently, the party's location is the furthest distance possible from my characters, and I'm away IRL on that weekend. I'll see what I can do, but I doubt I'll be able to make it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:44, 17 May 2010 (BST) What a shame! Don't feel like you've got to attend, but if you find yourself with some spare time and a computer, feel free to drop by for the insanity. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 21:31, 17 May 2010 (BST) Nah, it's a comic expo, so I won't have computer access. Sorry. :( Maybe next time...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:37, 17 May 2010 (BST) Vandal Data Did you update it? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 15:33, 22 May 2010 (BST) Sorry no. I've just done it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:38, 22 May 2010 (BST) LOST Absolutely beautiful finale. What'd you think? ~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 07:49, 24 May 2010 (BST) It was awesome. They managed to do it well without copping out in any way.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:18, 24 May 2010 (BST) Just doing my job No need to thank me. I'm always glad to help whenever I can. Too bad the building didn't hold out for long. -- Kittithaj 19:47, 24 May 2010 (BST) Hello my good man! Dear Fellow Chance would have it that another Mayoral race has begun! Word on the street is that you'd be a stellar candidate to walk up the apples and pears to stand as mayor! Jolly good show, and hop on over to the election space to declare yourself. Pip, pip! --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:39, 1 June 2010 (BST) I'll be having your speech's donkey. User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:31, 2 June 2010 (BST) Image:Mayorcamp2.png You just lost User:Cornholioo's vote. --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 18:01, 3 June 2010 (BST) He'll probably vote for me on the prospect that I used Hitler at all.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:03, 3 June 2010 (BST) Mayor of Malton I like what you did on the Mayor of Malton page. Nice way of settling it --S e n e r g y T 22:27, 4 June 2010 (BST) That was an arbitration ruling by User:Misanthropy. Thank him instead.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:28, 4 June 2010 (BST) A/VB Could you please back off A/VB, and let me deal with it from here? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 09:08 7 June 2010 (BST) Sure. So long as someone's dealign with the situation.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:09, 7 June 2010 (BST) lolhai. Work harder!--Big Cat 17:58, 7 June 2010 (BST) WORKING TOO HARD. I REVOKE MY INITIAL REQUEST! >:| --Big Cat 18:02, 7 June 2010 (BST) finneeeee you win.--Big Cat 18:08, 7 June 2010 (BST) Also, good job-ish. Need to be faster in vandal attacks, kk?--Big Cat 18:08, 7 June 2010 (BST) :( bai bai now.--Big Cat 18:10, 7 June 2010 (BST) Explain to me The three minute blocking of SA? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:42, 7 June 2010 (BST) Maybe because he's downright abusing his powers? --Thadeous Oakley 18:43, 7 June 2010 (BST) He blocked me for three minutes, and I was trying to work out how to unblock myself, so I blocked him for three minutes while I did to prevent him causing too much mayhem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:44, 7 June 2010 (BST) Right. Just checking, I wasn't sure if you knew sops can unblock themselves. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:45, 7 June 2010 (BST) At first I didn't, then i saw him unblock himself, so I figured we could. Kind of another reason I did so.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:46, 7 June 2010 (BST) See game? All sorted. Nothing to worry your pretty little head about. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:48, 7 June 2010 (BST) Moving comments Do you realise that removing inappropriate comments from the main A/VB page is not restricted to sysops only. What makes you think that a sysop only vote, placed in the middle of DDRs VB case is an appropriate place to decide on a disputed edit, especially when there is already an arbitration case open on that very issue? -- boxy talk • teh rulz 11:29 8 June 2010 (BST) DDR tricked me... :,( --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 11:35, 8 June 2010 (BST) It's a better place than any, since no one is offering to arbitrate and you somehow think Jorm should have a say (which is infinitely stupider than my option) --         12:10, 8 June 2010 (BST) Hey Fucktard Dear moron asshole shitbag cocksucker up your own ass fuckfaced fucktarded dipshit, Read their fucking page motherfucker. I will quote: 'This is just religion, not an organization, so please don't try to make it group." They don't wear Pagan tags. They are not a fucking group. You are a complete FUCKING IDIOT. I'm glad to see they made you a FUCKING SYSOP. FUCKING. MORON.--The Duke of Earl 23:33, 16 May 2010 (BST) Civility This may help you duke. --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:37, 16 May 2010 (BST) Tell that to Yonnua. You have no idea what this asshole gets up to off the wiki.--The Duke of Earl 23:40, 16 May 2010 (BST) Maybe, but at least he is civil while he does it. --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:40, 16 May 2010 (BST) No he isn't. You don't know jack about it, so go mind your own damn business.--The Duke of Earl 23:42, 16 May 2010 (BST) Well techinaclly your vandalising by removing a group you are not a member of, so it is my "business"--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:48, 16 May 2010 (BST) What are you one of Yonnua's fucking alts? Since he used 2 or 3 to spy on forums and have conversations with himself all the time I wouldn't doubt if he had several here too.--The Duke of Earl 23:54, 16 May 2010 (BST) Yes, so is Giles Sednik, Spiderzed and DanceDanceRevolution--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 23:57, 16 May 2010 (BST) Wouldn't surprise me.--The Duke of Earl 00:01, 17 May 2010 (BST) UDWiki:Administration/Misconduct/Archive/Misanthropy gotta edit that too. --         03:01, 12 May 2010 (BST) Done.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:29, 12 May 2010 (BST) Gah, you gotta not have the Not Misconduct bolded :( seee? Yeah :( Making portal misconduct pages and maintaining them is such a BITCH, trust me :*( --         08:41, 12 May 2010 (BST) Do I have to do everything myself or am I going to have to strongarm you back onto the team? User:Misanthropy/sig2 08:42, 12 May 2010 (BST) I need a month for my uni semester to finish, but after that things look promising, I can stop feeling like the old seedy guy who leaves high school but still goes to all the school parties attempting to attain that superiority he never had whilst in school ;D --         08:47, 12 May 2010 (BST) So I'll nominate you in two weeks then. Get your shoes shined and buy a new jacket. User:Misanthropy/sig2 08:51, 12 May 2010 (BST) Revert So um,... I made a lousy edit huh? Cause it was bad faith? -Poodle of DoomM! T 18:22, 10 May 2010 (BST) No, you editted Ross' comment, despite him making it clear he didn't want it to be editted.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:07, 10 May 2010 (BST) And thus being a bad faith edit? -Poodle of DoomM! T 00:18, 11 May 2010 (BST) No, you were trying to improve the wiki, so not bad faith. Read up on it sometime. Besides, I think you're right, Poodle, I back up correct spelling on the main page even if it was a light-hearted joke. --         00:43, 11 May 2010 (BST) I'm with you DDR.... I was trying to coax Younnau into admiting a blunder. You see, correction of spelling would typically be a good faith edit. I'm well aware of that. Especially so on the front page, I would imagine. Between Ross insisting on the blunder after people pointed it out, and tried to correct it,... and Yonnua reverting my "Good Faith" edit back,... I'd suppose one could imply misconduct/vandalism/[other mischevious implication here]... not that I would. I'm just civily trying to coax him into letting me have it my way. -Poodle of DoomM! T 02:09, 11 May 2010 (BST) Allow me to cite the case that led me to the revert, as it showed that good faith edits of others' comments was still unacceptable. As a point of personal interest, it was DDR who brought the case. ;) --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 08:28, 11 May 2010 (BST) There are plenty cases just like that but Ross' entry wasn't a 'comment', nor was it a statement on behalf of himself. It was a statement on behalf of the entire wiki, to everyone who looks at the main page. If people are likely to assume it's a retarded spelling mistake, it's hardly the way we all want people to see us. And just as much so, if it's a weird little in joke ;D --         09:00, 11 May 2010 (BST) Meh. I can make up words, and people can edit them in unsigned sections. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 12:07, 11 May 2010 (BST) DDR.... Not that I doubt you, but I'd like to see one of those cases again. I'd be curious to see a couple actually... :) -Poodle of DoomM! T 13:22, 11 May 2010 (BST) A couple of things: Ross, never said otherwise, which is why it's so ridiculous that an edit war almost started over it. Poodle, I'll get a couple, but I can only remember a couple or so. --         13:41, 11 May 2010 (BST) What you provided was great. Thanks! -Poodle of DoomM! T 01:17, 12 May 2010 (BST) Help:The NOT so secret diary of a sysop Look. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 23:48, 7 May 2010 (BST) I endorse this sexually arousing product! --         09:01, 11 May 2010 (BST) Hop on IRC We need to set you up on there. Also, we can answer questions. :) —Aichon— 23:09, 7 May 2010 (BST) Fail Nick Clegg is my hero. Go vote for him or I'll retract my vouch from your promotion and spam your page with angry emotes D:< --Thadeous Oakley 16:32, 6 May 2010 (BST) --Thadeous Oakley 22:17, 7 May 2010 (BST) You better hope for a hung parliament involving the Lib's.--Thadeous Oakley 22:17, 7 May 2010 (BST) What the fuck happened you obviously didn't vote enough times. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:12, 7 May 2010 (BST) No matter what happens Brown can't remain PM in this state. He'll probably have to hand it over to Milliband or someone of his generation, and give Clegg quite a lot of ground - however, I can easily see Labour offering the Lib Dems a lot more of what they're after than the Tories will. Ultimately, it'll boil down to a) Lib Dems' actual voter numbers, as opposed to seats; and b) how much back-pedalling Cameron's willing to do to get a majority, which in all honesty, I doubt will be much. He'll be relying on the UUP, who didn't make as good a showing as I expected (I figured they'd gain all the ground the DUP lost, but they only lost one seat, not the two or three I expected, and they lost that to a centre-leftist). Basically, unless Labour give the Lib Dems the voting referendum they're after, you can look forward to a short government that achieves nothing, Brown and Cameron ousted before the next general election for a younger and an older face respectively, and a lot of reliance on back-bench MPs to swing things. Fun times. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:20, 7 May 2010 (BST) I'm not too fond of Labour myself but that's mainly thanks to Mr.Brown, of course the Conservatives on the other hand are Eurosceptic as can be which is a cardinal sin in itself. Still, Lab/Lib can't reach a majority if I got the results right, so how can they form a minority coaltion?--Thadeous Oakley 22:27, 7 May 2010 (BST) Of course, the district system you guys have is a joke in itself, and whatever happens reforming that system is probably the most important priority during the first coalition formings. --Thadeous Oakley 22:33, 7 May 2010 (BST) Oh, no, they can, just not an overall majority. By aligning their vote on things, they'll outnumber the Tories, and with the, what, 29 small-party seats to pick and choose individual allies from, they'd be grand if they did. Clegg is essentially kingmaker here, he's got his party in the best situation they've ever been in. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:30, 7 May 2010 (BST) Right, I'll repeat it here as well. My assumption was a Lib-Lab with a SNP alliance, but now the DUP have just said they're open to working with labour, and that would also be an abstention.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:31, 7 May 2010 (BST) Oh, okay thanks for that. And Yeah, but it's ridiculous the Lib's actually lost seats after a great campaign and an overall increase in popular vote. --Thadeous Oakley 22:33, 7 May 2010 (BST) DUP siding with Labour? I have in fact seen it all. Also yes, the popular vote needs to count more. I don't see why the don't model it on the system used to vote for MLAs in Stormont here. User:Misanthropy/sig2 22:43, 7 May 2010 (BST) I reckon they'll probably side with the tories, but they said they're open to a deal with labour. On electoral reform, STV is probably the best, because it lets you rank your candidates, meaning that smaller parties like Green will get more support, but smaller parties like the BNP won't. The flaw with your standard PR is that it gives all small parties a larger vote.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:45, 7 May 2010 (BST) Why not direct and total democracy? Seats divided by total nation percentage. How many votes are lost by the current system. Thousands, you can pretty much rip your vote to pieces if you live in one of traditional blue or red colored districts. --Thadeous Oakley 22:49, 7 May 2010 (BST) Pure proportional representation (what you're describing) has a tendancy to give radical marginal parties a larger percentage of the vote. In turn, politicians then pander to the radicals for extra support in hung parliaments (very frequent with PR), meaning that the radicals get much more support. It's the principal that gave Hitler control of Germany in the 30s. Similarly, this was overcome when West Germany was established by adding in a 5% cap - if a party had less than 5% of the vote, they recieved on seats. However, if we get in to that, we begin subverting democracy. Which is why I prefer Single transferrable vote.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:54, 7 May 2010 (BST) True true, but that's because you Brits are used to a 2 party system. PR would pretty much indeed guarantee hung parliaments, but PR and coalition governments are well established in continental Europe, but it would indeed be a too radical departure from the current system you have. --Thadeous Oakley 22:58, 7 May 2010 (BST) Yeah, partly because now that we've had this for so long, the marginal parties only have a few policies on certain areas, because they don't think they'll get in. If every party turned up with bursting manifestos by next week, pure PR would be more reasonable, but I definitely wouldn't agree with it without a STV system, or some form of hurdle.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:00, 7 May 2010 (BST) And about right-wing radicals, maybe you have heard of Geert Wilders, it's true that they can gain allot of seats this way but experience tells us never enough and they usually lock themselves out of any real governmental influence with their extreme stands. I can't name a single EU country where far right has any saying whatsoever that is. (Part from Italy, but Italy is an absolute joke in the democratical/political sense) --Thadeous Oakley 23:03, 7 May 2010 (BST) I'm just worried that Britain is facing an economic crisis, political instability, the introduction of PR and the end of a war all at once, all of which were contributing factors to the devastation of Germany in 1933.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:05, 7 May 2010 (BST) Meh, start worrying when mass inflation hits and one bread costs a thousand pounds like in 1933 Germany. But it's true, times are grim indeed, and not just in Britain. But I'm sure things will work out in the end. --Thadeous Oakley 23:12, 7 May 2010 (BST) <3, seriously, the guy knows like 5 languages. --Thadeous Oakley 22:49, 7 May 2010 (BST) Fuck, I hate edit conflicts.--Thadeous Oakley 22:51, 7 May 2010 (BST) Its quite difficult to argue that a system is representative when a party that gets 25% of the vote gets 10% of the seats. Plus as recent vandal banning shows, the best way to convince people that far right policies are fail is to let people tell us why they think they're great. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 22:54, 7 May 2010 (BST) Aww man, british politics sounds so involving!! With us it literally is "vote for the one you hate least", if you smoke and love your internet you vote liberal, else vote labour :( --         00:47, 8 May 2010 (BST) did I mention our capitol is run by a man who yesterday likened his party to a sausage? --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 13:38, 8 May 2010 (BST) Congratulations On your promotion, good luck on your future endevours.--TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:07, 7 May 2010 (BST) Corny starts arbie Look, especially at this remark of me. Not going to tell you how to paddle your own canoe, but if you can shoot that one down with the restraint alone, a lot of pointless drama could be saved. And at the very least, Corny is going to need you permission to start that case. -- Spiderzed▋ 15:23, 7 May 2010 (BST) Donkey! Sneaky, and so close to home as well. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 03:23, 6 May 2010 (BST) Edit war There's an edit war going on here: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Second_Battle_of_Krinks&action=history Can I make a case about this? --Cornholioo 21:09, 18 April 2010 (BST) Given that the deletion discussion process will end in less than 7 days, and that it doesn't look favourable, I don't think that an arbie would end in time before the page vanishes anyway from mainspace. (I have been considering doing so myself, and the timing is my sole reason against having done so.) --Spiderzed 21:12, 18 April 2010 (BST) On that note, could you both stop editting it until the deletion request is over? Therefore getting rid of the need for arbitration? I think that would probably be the best solution. As SZ noted, I see no reason to have an arbitration case over a page which will either be gone or in your user space by the time an arbitrator is picked.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:14, 18 April 2010 (BST) Whittenside Fort description overhaul Hi, I just noticed that you do edits about the Whittenside area. I tried to get in touch with Schwan (who does most of the survivor-centric edits for the area), but haven't been lucky. Either way, to cut down on the preliminary chit-chat, I've written up a new draft for the fort description on the Whittenside Suburb Main Page, as I'm neither happy with the old survivor-POV version, nor with the current zombie-POV description which I've myself written in a particularly nasty mood upon seeing the old description. What are your thoughts on this as a local survivor player? Is the draft good and balanced as it is? --Spiderzed 20:17, 16 April 2010 (BST) This It might save you some time on those gaffs. ;) —Aichon— 13:45, 14 April 2010 (BST) I didn't realise redirects worked on templates. Thanks!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 14:27, 14 April 2010 (BST) There is no recent news for this suburb. News older than 1st December 2024 can be found in the archive. Adding a link to make this not a crit 10.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:24, 16 April 2010 (BST) Arbitration Hello, I have answered your question on the admin page. Thanks for your help with this case. --Cornholioo 20:37, 12 April 2010 (BST) Thanks for the help. But also I have told some other guy (that keeps swearing) that his comments are unwelcome on my talkpage from now on. Though he keeps commenting (and swearing). Look at this: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Cornholioo&diff=cur#comments Do you mind if I start a case about this? --Cornholioo 21:25, 12 April 2010 (BST) Here's what you do. Post an explanation at the top of your talk page, stating that comments from users x,y and z are unwelcome. A simple note, a bit like at the top of User_talk:Iscariot, but less huge and wordy. You've already made it clear on their talk page that their comments will be unwelcome. If over the course of say 48 hours, any of such users post there, delete the post and explain simply post deleted as per note at top of talk page. If after 48 hours, they still don't work it out, wander over to vandal banning and report them for harassment.--RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:40, 13 April 2010 (BST) Yeah. Stop. Making. Fucking. Cases. You're like Amazing but an idiot. --         05:48, 14 April 2010 (BST) irc I sweat it's your luck... we had an 8 hour talk about udwiki today, me aichon, iscariot, etc, and half an hour after we all departed you came :( --         23:15, 11 April 2010 (BST) Re:Protections You, sir, may regret informing me of this. User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:18, 11 April 2010 (BST) New crat election soon. I just have to find and kill Ross. User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:21, 11 April 2010 (BST) I could lure him to the real Big Brother house. He'd probably appreciate the fittingness of it all. User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:25, 11 April 2010 (BST) Working on it! User:Misanthropy/sig2 19:29, 11 April 2010 (BST) Stuff that isn't connected to Mis' comment above Hello, thank you for your support on the Administration/Deletions page, much appreciated. --Cornholioo 15:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC) Hello Pokes*--Arthur Dent BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 01:55, 22 April 2010 (BST) *Pokes in the eye*--Arthur Dent BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 13:48, 23 April 2010 (BST) Thanks For this revert. It might have gone unnoticed for some time. I've been extra busy of late.--Scott Timewell Imperium CFT 07:28, 9 April 2010 (BST) It wouldn't have gone unnoticed, since those listings all get patrolled daily. When I saw that the edit had happened, I set it aside to check into later, since I doubted the Imperium had switched their bent just like that. Thankfully, Yonnua dealt with it before I had a chance to investigate, so I didn't have to. :) —Aichon— 08:28, 9 April 2010 (BST) Camped Next Door. What actually next door? 98% Survivors are terrible. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC) Yeah, I'm still there. There's only one person left now. Meanwhile, someone revived my brain rotted zombie, so he's now removed the barricades on all the buildings within a mile of the NT. Survivors greatest weakness is foolishness. And not checking who they're sleeping next to. That too.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:19, 24 March 2010 (UTC) People's Liberation Army of Malton Yes, yes I do.--Rogue Medic 16:54, March 28 2010 (Pacific Time) Group Massacre How do I go about bringing us back online?--SamuRyjak 17:31, 30 March 2010 (BST) Re: Becktown Oh.. yeah.. Didn't think about that. Checked and saw that the page I modelled it after, Grayside, was linked to from here.. I hope that will work. Infrastructure 16:01, 31 March 2010 (BST) Oy You cocked up, but I fixed it for you luv. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 01:23, 2 April 2010 (BST) Re:Lines Why do you have that line, when the + button you've added up there automatically adds comments below it? User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:35, 22 March 2010 (UTC) I stole it from humourous suggestions. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC) Yeah, it has. I've grown tired of it not displaying for anyone but me, so I tried a new one. Other possiblities are here if you have a favourite. User:Misanthropy/sig2 14:58, 22 March 2010 (UTC) Strange. Well, it's already #3, so it'll stay that way. Cheers. User:Misanthropy/sig2 16:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC) Arbitrator Hello, I hope I'm allowed to post this here. I would like the page Battle of Krinks to have a neutral arbitrator. That means; someone who rewrites the article NPOV. The WWSIS has also agreed on this. I would like to ask if you're able and willing to do this. Thanks in advance, --Cornholioo 9:21, 25 March 2010. You know, you have an arbitration case up about this exact thing. You COULD just ignore all the trolling and rubbish and just do it that way... --         09:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC) Then again, that's probably just what you mean. Hoping so anyway. nvm. --         09:46, 25 March 2010 (UTC) No, I was pressing a case against someone in the Philosophe Knights for editing the Battle of Krinks page. Then someone else completely edited that page and that was alright. Right now someone in the Philsophe Knights is pretting a case against me about the same page, so why can't I ask Yonnua Koponen to write the article NPOV in the meantime? I have also asked for someone to do that, but that was deleted. Oh, and the case you're talking about isn't about who is going to write this article NPOV. It's about an edit someone doesn't agree with. --Cornholioo 10:59, 25 March 2010 (UTC) It's all well and good to tell Yonnua to write an NPOV version of that article, but then what? You can't replace Battle of Krinks with it because it's been protected due to the arbitration cases. You would have to go through arbitration anyway to force your new NPOV version over Iscariot's versions etc. So in the end you'd have to go through arbitration unless by some amazing coincidence, no one complained about the new NPOV article. So you might as well just get it done now with Yonnua as official arbitrator. --         11:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC) The NSU complained. And is the article locked for everyone? I thought just for Iscariot and me... Oh and I accepted Yonnua as arbitrator, but Iscariot didn't. --Cornholioo 13:14, 25 March 2010 (UTC) I meant in a new case, a case to wash the others away as null cases since the end product of the page will be fundamentally and inherently different. And yes. The page has been protected via the wiki software so no one can edit it except for sysops. --         12:23, 25 March 2010 (UTC) DDR has got it pretty much bang on. And by pretty much, I mean he has. The only was a new version of the page can really go through is if it's done on the arbitration page. Hence, the case you've got with Iscariot, or a new case is your best bet. I'd personally say the case with Iscariot, to avoid excess drama from another arbies case.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC) So you mean first make a new page, and then post it on the arbitration page? If yes, could you make this page then? Iscariot probably doesn't agree, but now it's his page out there which I don't agree to either. --Cornholioo 1:57, 27 March 2010 (UTC) No, just carry on with the case against iscariot, and request that the page is made NPOV by an uninvolved party. Whether you specify who you want to do it is up to you, but it's likely that the arbitrator will either choose who does it, or do it themselves.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 12:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC) New RP Hello, I was wondering if I could turn the Douglass Park, Brookman Alley, and Kentisber Plaza into tactical revive points for main Red Resistance base, Reach.--Rogue Medic 12:29, 2 April 2010 (Pacific Time) Template:Yorphan Was gonna surprise you BUT YOU GOT NOSY. Anyways, have fun with it. Fiddle with it if you need to. User:Misanthropy/sig2 20:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC) Lol, thanks. Sorry, I stalk RC, so nothing is secret from Yonnua. Looks good. I may use a combination of both the templates from now on. :O. I guess we'll have to see...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC) I challenge you sir Yonnua, you have linked an orphan to me for the last time. The line must now be drawn, HERE! Now, I am a charitable sort, and I've been known to help my fellow man back to his feet or spare the occasional pocket of loose change. But this has gone too far, sir. I say keep your orphans away from my house, sir! I challenge you to a fisticuff, sir. You have until March 17th, 2010 to make your way to The Dement Arms in Foulkes Village for a St Patrick's Day Brawl that you will not soon forget, where I will soon pummel the spit out of your face, sir. The rules are simple, no shoes, no shirts, no FAKs, no weapons, no killing. A gentleman's fight, and I use the term "gentleman" loosely with you, sir. There will be others in attendance, all settling their various disputes, but I hereby challenge you to take even one of my hefty wallops and remain standing. The gauntlet has been thrown, proverbial, across your face, knave. Face me if you will.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 11:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC) You fought well, sir. I admire a man who can handle my punches. You are welcome in Foulkes Village any time.--GANG Giles Sednik CAPD 10:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC) Orphan Hello. Sorry about the orphaned page. I was tidying up the page and I guess I accidentally deleted it. Woops. Thanks for the heads-up. --TheBardofAwesome 22:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC) Re:Redirect Meant the main page. I've been doing the same for all the map talk pages. But thanks anyway, man. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC) tip Heya, just an idea for the orphaned stuff. Do you oft check the pages when they are orphan? You could be killing two birds with one stone in some situations, for example, check out the page you just unorphaned: Scarletwood Defence Force. You could have just had it speedy'd >=D --         23:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC) Great Radio Messages I understand your concern. I learned of that problem myself months ago. I decided to cut out some not-so-funny stuffs out (you see, I'm easily amused.) I've been thinking of moving longer series of radio spam to another page for a while now, but I don't have time for it. Necessity will force a change eventually, though. -- Kittithaj 17:11, 11 March 2010 (UTC) Thank you, but I better do it myself later. I'm the most frequent updater anyway. -- Kittithaj 17:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC) The art of the Demerge Demerging pages in concept is simple; first, you divert as many incoming links as possible, then transfer the information to the individual pages. Of course, this is all pretty obvious, and not what you were looking for. Anyways, I try to follow a process when doing this: Open the page you want to demerge. Open another tab to the "what links here" page. This will be your main work page. Type the page name in the "find" field (ctrl+f) and go down the links list, finding and removing any incoming links. Example: you find a link to [[Suburb Schools#Apple School|Apple School]]. Shorten it to [[Apple School]] Be careful when shortening; if the page's name is [[Suburb Schools#Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]] and you reduce it to [[Apple School]], you'll create a red link or disambiguation link- it must be named [[Apple School (Suburb)|Apple School]]. This is mainly a problem for multi-location names, coordinate locations, and those with "St/St." in them. If you are in doubt, just drop the "Suburb Schools#" piece. Some links are written with underscores (like_this) instead of spaces. If a location is still showing up on the "what links here" list after de-linking, try replacing some of the spaces in your find field with underscores. there is not much you can do about user page or protected pages. If it's a matter of redirecting a link to an individual location then that's fine, but links referencing the page's creation/existence/deletion are best left alone or unlinked (In these cases I'll either leave it as a red link or replace the brackets with bold text). Once you have corrected all redirects and links, it is time to move onto the actual demerge. Click on one of the locations on the "What links here list". Copy the locationblock and information about the building from the merged page to the individual. Replace {{Locationblockmerge| with: {{Locationblock| location_type=Locationtypehere| Add a lv. 3 header (===header===) for Description, History, Barricade Plan, and Current Events if necessary. Put the following categories on the bottom of the page (don't use the stub template if the page is somehow acceptable): <br style="clear: both" /> ---- {{locations-stub}} [[Category:Building Type]] [[Category:Suburb]] Tidy up any leftover junk and move onto the next location. Once you are done, the "what links here" page should only have a few User: or administrative pages left, if anything. Put the merged location page and any extraneous redirects up on A/SD and move on. While most people aim at taking these on suburb by suburb, I've found that demerging by location type involves fewer variables. I recommend you find or create a page (like I did here) to store some of the common coding, as this can get extremely repetitive. Good luck! You'll need it. --~ Red Hawk One Talk | space for lease 23:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC) Plenty active, thanks Hi Yonnua Koponen. Sorry to clutter your discussion page. Just dropping a line to confirm (in response to your note on our group page in January) that we are indeed active. I can personally confirm that all our members are active in Ruddlebank, Spicer Hills, Old Arkham, Lockettside, and Lamport Hills - if that's where you were referring to. I'm not in contact with our branch in Starlington and Pegton very much though, so not sure about there. Cheers. --Susan Barker 22:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC) Archiving Couldn't we get a bot that will auto-archive everything from the previous month and set it to run on the 14th of every month? It'd save you having to do it all the long way. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 13:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC) thanks thanks for keeping the queues down for me. Much appreciated. --         10:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC) poodle Congratulations of having found the secret page.... -Poodle of DoomM! T 21:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC) I Found The Secret Page!! Yonnua Koponen has found the secret page... why Why you no like using our orphan template? --         00:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC) Vandalisms Thanks for helping out with the vandalism on the DHPD page Louise 13:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC) Not a problem.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:50, 18 February 2010 (UTC) op My last response to your bid question was poor and unjustified, so I'm coming back to explain further (and actually change my answer). After seeing what you have been doing since you asked me, I have really enjoyed watching you work on the wiki and you've satisfied my opinion of an ideal candidate; the difference between now and before being that you've become much more headstrong and have been a lot more perceptive when it comes to dealing with users and situations. Rather than just following someone else's stride, you've taken your own. Even when I don't agree with your actions sometimes, they haven't yet disappointed me with an outcome I find unsatisfactory towards the wiki's wellbeing. I am also hoping that the reason you didn't actually run at the end of last month was because of what I said. --         03:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC) Dulston You guys still need mah our help? (Oooh, you'll need to archive this page now.) -- Rahrah wants you all to know that MOM is open now. 21:51, 3 February 2010 (UTC) An chead Día duit, an Dhónúa Capónen. Conás a tá tú? Tá mé ag scríobh an chead scéala anséo, mar cannaigh mé. An bhfuil fadbh ort? User:Misanthropy/sig2 01:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC) ???? I am afraid I don't speak Gaelic. (This is Gaelic right?)--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC) After extensive translation, I have got the general gist of this message. Something to the effect of: First: Hello, Yonnua Koponen. I will write here next time, under this header. or something similar. Correct?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC) Not really. "Hello, Yonnua Kopnen. How are you? I'm writing the first message here, because I can. That alright with you?" I may have been on the sauce, and I may have overplayed the paddy card in various pages... User:Misanthropy/sig2 15:05, 29 January 2010 (UTC) Lawl. Well, I tried...--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 15:11, 29 January 2010 (UTC) Run, Hide, etc. You would dare mock me in my own talk page? Well, here I'm returning the favor. You'll get a burning flare to the face yet!--Aldaris 21:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC) Hate I Fucking Hate You And Hope You Die --Arthur Dent BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!!!! 21:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC) comments Mr. Koponen, please tell me where such rules are located. And where I can contact someone who can deal with this, because I do not have all morning to play cat and mouse. --The Shoemaker Talk Red Faction 16:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC) Read your talk page.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 16:55, 10 February 2010 (UTC) Let's Roll Some Heads! At one point or another you expressed interest in helping with the latest Great Suburb Group Massacre. The official page has been made, complete with instructions. Go get 'em! --Maverick Talk - OBR 404 08:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC) Orphans Great job. Don't forget. If a page has an image, click on the image to see who uploaded it. A good way to tell who made the page. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 20:21, 24 January 2010 (UTC) Yeah, I tried that with Read a minute ago. I've been mostly successful, but can't find places for those ones seperated at the top. Any ideas?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC) Boomer Hey, Thanks for linking the pages, I own ya one. --boomer343 15:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC) MOM We're currently helping out The Streltsy in their war against the SWA. I'm not sure how long we're staying around here for, but it may be a week, it may be two. Thanks for asking though. :) -- Rahrah wants you all to know that MOM is open now. 22:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC) Confirm Z.I.D is still active :) --Shiznoe 17:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC) Great suburb massacer On the suburb template your forggeting to fill in the " |suburb= " part. --TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 19:53, 27 January 2010 (UTC) FFFFFFFF!!!! I'll get on it, thanks.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:53, 27 January 2010 (UTC) Sandbox story looks epic.-- Adward  21:22, 27 January 2010 (UTC) Lawl. I love that story. I was going to write more with j3d and shit, but I couldn't be assed.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC) I'm always worried its about to turn the corner into slashfic. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 21:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC) "And then Cyberbob stepped out from behind the trashcan. 'How long had he been there?' thought DDR. With one look from Cyberbob, he knew the answer." --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC) I've just realised something My sig colour is the same as yours, I think. Really sorry about that, didn't notice. I just typed in six random numbers and the colour looked pretty. -- Rahrah wants you all to know that MOM is open now. 22:19, 17 January 2010 (UTC) That would indeed be a beautiful sight. But those evil biased crats might think that their opinion is better than us, and not let us have orange sigs at all. :P -- Rahrah wants you all to know that MOM is open now. 22:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC) Speaking of Mr. MOM, I found a Donkey on their page! Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:02, 17 January 2010 (UTC) Michaleson already got that one.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC) Blast... Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 14:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC) Thanks Thanks for the tip mate, by any cahnce you looking to sign up? my orphan [3] is there. Its not so orphaned you just need to lurk more :P --    Timmah!     Talk   23:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC) Inclusion on the Recruitment page doesn't count in the "what links here" section. It's a complete page splice, not a link. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC) --    Timmah!     Talk   01:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC) Duuude Re: Dreadnaught I only just totally mislinked, you could've changed it to Council_of_Leaders_(original), instead of undoing me in the face. User:Pyxzer/sig 18:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC) It's cool, bro. User:Pyxzer/sig 18:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC) Yo Ask and you shall recieve. User:Misanthropy/sig2 00:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC) Yey! I'll hold you to it, too. User:Misanthropy/sig2 20:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC) ...And I was planning on deleting the whole wiki... :( User:Misanthropy/sig2 20:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC) I need a partner in crime. User:Misanthropy/sig2 20:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC) Thanks! Even though you edit conflicted me in the process. :/ -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Lol, sorry. I'm lurking 'cause there's snow outside. :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Yeah, I know. Well, I know where I live, dunno about you. But it was hell driving home from work. :/ -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC) I live across the Atlantic from you. We don't have as much, but we're meant to be getting 25cm today.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC) I haven't checked the news to find out how much we're getting, but the roads were covered, so yeah. Couldn't find the turn lane. :/ -- ¯\(°_o)/¯ 13:43, 5 January 2010 (UTC) 2009 Donkey First. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 18:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC) :D --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:10, 22 December 2009 (UTC) I see a Donkey. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 20:25, 22 December 2009 (UTC) It isn't hyperlinked.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Curses. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 20:29, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Hey Appreciate the concern but seems unnecessary. I am allowed to bring case's and make relevant comments. Arb ruling isn't valid anymore since it dropped in the new year. --Thadeous Oakley 23:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC) that blanking (my own alt) sorry, should've down from same account as page. --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 17:58, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Problem solved. Another case completed for the great detective, Sherlock Yonnua.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Great detective skills! xxx --  ▧  : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 18:02, 22 December 2009 (UTC) Sigh I removed the image because it's a mess for sysops to delete it if it's linked somewhere. Don't treat me like a noob, or I'll go weep in a corner. Yeah. That corner. *points to a corner* --Janus talk 22:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Janus ain't no noob, she' the goddess of help. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 01:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC) Awww. --Janus talk 13:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC) Janus is a she?--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 13:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC) I feel shocked as well at times . D: --Janus talk 15:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC) First That is all. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 17:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC) I archive every time the text reaches the bottom of the template, so it's not like you'll be here for long. :P --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:37, 3 December 2009 (UTC) Floating box <div style="position: fixed; right:1; bottom:50px; display:block;"> INSERT TEXT HERE. </div> Just in case I forget how to get that glorious effect.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Third The sky is blue. --RahrahCome join the #party!18:53, 5 December 2009 (UTC) ???--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:55, 5 December 2009 (UTC) It's one of those comments people make instead of "First." --RahrahCome join the #party!22:40, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Ah, now I see.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 23:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Don't you just love newsday? --RahrahCome join the #party!19:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC) Yup. Shame that I had to leave halfway through, but oh well. I think I have an exam on Jan 12th though, so we'll see how it goes.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC) Donkeys Mah Points I think you forgot to give me the two more that you just archived, or at least forgot to tell me that they didn't count. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 22:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Oh yeah, I'll get right on that.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 22:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Found One Did you want your donkey? Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:17, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Because I found some Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 23:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Martybank Has now been included as part of Unimplemantia. Congratualtions. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC) Old Suburb News I noticed that you were archiving some of the old news for the suburbs, and I was curious about something. The instructions say that news older than one month should be archived, but you were archiving news that was simply from the previous month, yet only two weeks old. Am I misinterpreting or misunderstanding the instructions, or is there some other set of guidelines governing these things that I'm not aware of? I'm simply looking for clarification for my own future reference, and am not interested in wiki-lawyering and the like. —Aichon— 17:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC) In practice, I do it every month on the 12th. I archive the whole lot, because that's what has to be done. I had a conversation with people about it when i first did it on DDR's talk, and it'll be somewhere in his archives now.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks! I'll take your word that it's there somewhere. I was just curious, like I said. And thanks for doing that work as well. —Aichon— 17:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Found it.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 17:55, 12 November 2009 (UTC) Zombie Lord Would you please stop feeding him? That suggestion was dying before you jumped in and fed the flame war. He wants you to insult him, so please stop rewarding such poor behavior. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 00:03, 9 November 2009 (UTC) DEM Sorry, I should rephrase- the subject of parody groups wasn't discussed in detail, but the group given as an example of one which didn't get a disambiguation page was a parody group of the RRF. Anyhow, thanks! --FT DEM 22:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC) I don't know what then- arbitration, maybe? I don't see a lot of friendly faces on the available arbitrators list (mostly because I don't see a lot of familiar ones), but it's an obvious troll... perhaps he will realize that we're basically all nice people behind our keyboards, reflect on the destructive nature of his anger, and make an effort to resume being genuinely helpful- accepting, without being controlled by, his hurt feelings. Or at least find a different way to troll us...--FT DEM 03:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC) >: ( God damn it, you really know how to kill a hostile mood. :/ Also, good job with the soft warning idea.-- SA 22:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC) 15% of the total players are not PKers. Just saying.-- SA 01:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC) Promotion Bids Re:Promotion Bid You're free to change your stance, by all means, no need to explain things - but thanks for the heads up. Sorry if I seemed to go off the handle in our last discussion - I'm not actually being angry with you, just meant to argue a point. If it appeared otherwise I'll withdraw my comments. Though I will say that not all PKers are zombie sympathisers, though! . User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:21, 22 November 2009 (UTC) It seemed to be the right thing to do. He's known for trolling in that area, and removing a suggestion so he could re-add it without comments he didn't like reeked of section-blanking. It was essentially a walk-around for removing other members' talk comments. User:Misanthropy/sig2 23:26, 22 November 2009 (UTC) Promotion Isn't looking that good, huh? I'm still figuring out why though...maybe you should have accepted my nomination a month ago :P --Thadeous Oakley 19:33, 17 November 2009 (UTC) Oh god Doc here. You're nominated for SysOp? No offense, but I'm scared. Ah, well. Best of luck! Private McKinley 23:30, 18 November 2009 (UTC) NO Mikhos 15:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC) Impersonation Thanks, totally spaced that I already voted. Keep up the good watch sir! Edward Morbius 22:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC) Lexicon Indeed so. They haven't contributed to the wiki for over a week. Inactive users on the Lexicon need to be replaced before a backlog happens, and it becomes unmanageable. I know that Adward could have edited the wiki (As I also contacted him on IRC.), but hasn't. --RahrahCome join the #party!20:58, 2 November 2009 (UTC) Orphans suck ...On sawdust, as they have nothing to eat. DU U C WUT I DID THAR??? --Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 20:14, 4 November 2009 (UTC) YA MAN, I C WUT U DID THAR! U R FUNNEH!!!!!!1111EFUCKINGLEVEN11 Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 20:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC) Page delete I want that page deleted...why the hell would you vote keep...if i wanted user:The_Colonel/Colonel_Krauser i would create something like it...but i dont i would like that deleted. Apparently that is too much to ask for though -_- --    Timmah!     Talk   18:28, 17 October 2009 (BST) I was waiting for the request in the profile. Now I'm gonna change my vote.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 18:38, 17 October 2009 (BST) Defender Talk page I replied to your message some time ago, only just thought about telling you this.--Nhrn 00:25, 17 October 2009 (BST)--Nhrn 00:25, 17 October 2009 (BST) Stuffs Remember to do the news when you start removing things in future :P Don't be much bothered by people going on at your policies, they just remember Hagnat putting up three pointless ones to ensure his promotion for the third worse sysop tenure in wiki history. His previous tenures were one and two on the same list.... You won't have much to live up to going that route. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 07:34, 14 October 2009 (BST) I was following what you did with your policy, because I was unaware of the procedure. I think I missed the point where you did the wiki news amongst the yells at me from read. Sorry, will in the future.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 07:38, 14 October 2009 (BST) DCC Bless. Word of advice though, best way to deal with troll(ish) comments? Ignore. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC) Iscariot shit Seriouspost You couldn't have picked a worse issue to try and resolve for your sysop-cred. You might be thinking that the most cred is to be found in the toughest conflicts, but honestly; there is no cred to be found in anything that involves Iscariot. Cyberbob  Talk  04:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Imo the difference is actually dealing with the toughest conflicts, rather than inflaming it passively on Iscariot's talk page and then believing every word he says before literally passing the entire issue onto Boxy. --DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION-- 08:39, 29 October 2009 (UTC) There is literally no way to deal with Iscariot though; Yonnua may have gone about it in a terrible way but my point is there is no right way Cyberbob  Talk  09:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC) "Perfect answer" It's to ignore Izzy til he goes back to his cave. Tee-hee. --Bob Boberton TF / DW 20:36, 28 October 2009 (BST) This from someone who has proven repeatedly that he lacks basic reading skills. -- User:Iscariot/Signature 21:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC) When all else fails, spout ad hominem ad nauseum! -ಠ_ರೃ 03:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC) The irony of you saying that after what you implied in your edit summary makes me smile. -- User:Iscariot/Signature 03:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC) I have edit summaries? -ಠ_ರೃ 04:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC) lol User:Cyberbob240/Sig 04:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Funnily, I came here to say a similar thing. You see what you've started? All because you are too impressionable to make your own opinion? We need sysops that can formulate their own opinions based off the evidence, not just what one person throws at them. You didn't even check the entire situation yourself, you just walked over to Boxy's talk and made it his own problem without you even reading all the relevant pages to make your own opinion, and therefore seeing if what you were doing was right. Start working on being more perceptive. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 02:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Since you're being all seven years old with the accusations, I'll point out now that Boxy actually started it. At no point have I ever requested a de-escalation, and rather than checking all of A/VD and making all necessary de-escalation in an objective manner Boxy has twice now targeted me in a petty manner and he knew full well I'd make an issue of this. Tell me how this targeted treatment is consistent with the good conduct of a responsible sysop? You're going to vote against Cyberbob's re-evaluation for drama causing, how is this any different? There's blame to be assigned here, and it should not be to this kid's doorstep, it should be to Boxy's. Mind you, I did tell him nothing would get changed as he can't admit he's wrong, the kid does need to learn the lesson from this that I'm always right. -- User:Iscariot/Signature 02:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC) This farce started before he descalated you. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 02:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Incorrect, I was happy to leave the previous version intact, this all kicked off because Boxy forged it and not one of you changed it back. -- User:Iscariot/Signature 02:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Yep, no one thinks Boxy is in the wrong bar you. Power of the people. Though sometimes I forget you are the people. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 02:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC) And I meant the newest descalation. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 02:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Again, Boxy, no other sysop jumped to doing mine, they were happy enough to understand that I understood that I was the only one that could be harmed and knowing this still didn't want one. He did it to cause drama. -- User:Iscariot/Signature 02:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Then you two have a lot more in common than you think. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 02:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Not once did I cause drama first since I've come back, to re-quote your seven year old's argument "He started it" :P -- User:Iscariot/Signature 02:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Template:Quote Say what User:Cyberbob240/Sig 04:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Yeah wtf? How did he know? --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 08:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Wait, so he's right? User:Cyberbob240/Sig 09:30, 29 October 2009 (UTC) I was only joking. I really don't know what he meant. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 09:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC) A/VD Might as well just put them on A/PT en masse rather than spam peoples talk pages with a big template. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 00:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC) I was just going by the rule on VD that the user has to request it, or a sysop has to do it. Didn't want iscariot taking me to VB for it, which he almost certainly would.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 00:06, 28 October 2009 (UTC) We aren't devils kid, being put on A/VB means nothing unless we rule in favour of him. Why does no one understand good faith nowadays? --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 08:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC) Bored You could empty Category:Pages Needing Location Block --User:Rosslessness/Sig 11:22, 17 October 2009 (BST) Promotion I have put you up for it. Please let me know if you accept or deny your responsibility to lead teh wiki.--Thadeous Oakley 22:57, 13 October 2009 (BST) DSS Sattelite phone On the same level as DEMON? Really? --User:Rosslessness/Sig 19:36, 13 October 2009 (BST) Kinda, yeah. Anything that gives you powers which you wouldn't be given if you played without it shouldn't be acceptable. Sure, not on exactly the same level, DEMON involved being in a certain group, and was an absolute massive abuse. But my point is somewhere in there.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 19:43, 13 October 2009 (BST) So gives an unfair ingame advantage?, as it offers forum like communication in your window, rather than a seperate one. I still feel the DEMON comparison is a bit harsh. Unless every satelite phone user is manually texting each other with every barricade level they see ;) --User:Rosslessness/Sig 19:54, 13 October 2009 (BST) Meh, fair enough. I still dislike the whole add on shindig. I find it unfair that having an updated system or using firefox can make you far more effective. Plus, the DSS is FAR superior to a forum.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 20:00, 13 October 2009 (BST) It is. God bless sophie. Although In fairness I only use it to spam rorybob, hassk, and some random members of 404 Normally knock knock jokes, and "Im dead" --User:Rosslessness/Sig 20:03, 13 October 2009 (BST) Lawl.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 21:00, 13 October 2009 (BST) And I see overnight you've had a sneak peek at wiki opinion. Heed their words, and you'll be in line for a proper bid in no time. --User:Rosslessness/Sig 09:27, 14 October 2009 (BST) I'll a gree with the DEMON statement 'cause I don't like add ons, or the DEM so it's a double whammy for me, but best idea ever? sweet! but seriously - i'm having a hard time getting any input that actually helps improve the idea. should i just post it? --User:Jack13/sig 15:01, 15 October 2009 (BST) Random Bonus People In the actual manhunt I wouldn't give away the password. If he was killed by a random, no one gets the points. Better? --User:Rosslessness/Sig 19:57, 4 October 2009 (BST) I really enjoy posting my sig on blue pages. --User:Rosslessness/Sig 21:56, 7 October 2009 (BST) Yes, I feel the same way about orange pages. Not that there are that many of them. So, how's the orphan quest getting along?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:00, 7 October 2009 (BST) You could always make this page orange. As for the orphans there were 1500+. Now? [4] Why not try finding one of them a home? --User:Rosslessness/Sig 22:03, 7 October 2009 (BST) There are now 98.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:05, 7 October 2009 (BST) Amaz!ng! --User:Rosslessness/Sig 22:06, 7 October 2009 (BST) Hmm, those subpages of The Dead are quite irritating. because they obviously can't just be linked in to the talk, because of protections. damn.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:13, 7 October 2009 (BST) Just ask for them to be added to the talk page on protections. And link them in your request. That way even if they aren't added, they'll be linked to protections. --User:Rosslessness/Sig 22:46, 7 October 2009 (BST) Worked it down to 88.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 07:24, 8 October 2009 (BST) And the last orphaned page is La Révolution.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 16:23, 11 October 2009 (BST) Suburb Patrol we are commonly active in the south central 6 suburbs, and want to expand our reach and presence. Somewhat in the hopes of recruiting new members. We often scout as far as Tapton and kempsterbank, running 2-3 day missions, while maintian group safehouses in other suburbs as fall back and resuply points. is this(being listed in these suburbs) unreasonable? or considered poor practice/unethical? please respond on my talk page. you're input will be apreciated, and gladly accepted. we try our best not to ipmose on other groups, unless it extends roleplay. look forward to your response --User:Jack13/sig 17:12, 8 October 2009 (BST) ack... wiki skills are rusty. what I'll do is retract the northern most 3 suburbs, untill maybe teh day comes that our group numbers grow. although we often have members present in thouse suburbs, we are not "active" in the same sense that we are constantly interacting with other survivors. more often it's simply scouting, or fire missions on group enemies. We despise the practices carried by the DEM and parttook gleefully in the The Uprising. Thanks for the head-check, and make sure you stay in touch. also, very nice user page! --User:Jack13/sig 17:12, 8 October 2009 (BST) at least we hope we're contributing to the greater good. infact that's why we have issues with the DEM in the first place. most of us feel they violate the alt policey in the rules, and that they damage the culture of urbandead in a number of ways, like imposing authority, and overclaiming territory. pop by our forums anytime, or if you're in the south feel free to say hi. We've been batting around the idea of a Southern Alliance, a sort of continuation on the Malton Uprising. and yes, that is the one i ment hahahaha. banding together all the southern groups opposed to the DEM and the practice of Bounty hunting. But, from experience, it might not be worth the effort. --User:Jack13/sig 20:03, 8 October 2009 (BST) I'm familiar with Dulston, and i've made a number of trips up there. Many of our missions could be considered "long rang", and although our home is in the south, it's not uncommon for members to spend extended periods of 2-3 in the far north. --User:Jack13/sig 20:20, 8 October 2009 (BST) Issues? Has Mr. Penber ever had any issues with psychotic teenagers carrying crazy notebooks? I merely ask for the information...User:Lelouch/sig 22:51, 30 August 2009 (BST) Indeed. He was the only Death note name I could get. I tried like, a million, and ended up with him. So yeah, that's cool.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:54, 30 August 2009 (BST) Iscariot: The Misconbitration If there's one thing I hope you've learned It's that Iscariot does not care for weak excuses such as "subjectivity" when people disagree with him. AGREE WITH ME MY OPINION IS THE ONLY VALID ONE HEAR ME ROAR User:Cyberbob240/Sig 13:05, 26 September 2009 (BST) what are you talkign about? Iscariot is undisputed god and master of the wiki. His opinions are not allowed to be opposed.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 13:17, 26 September 2009 (BST) You're much the same actually, just so happens we agree with you alot more of the time, and your intentions are in more noble places. --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 13:41, 26 September 2009 (BST) Indeed. Each use precedent and force to further their own opinions, but Cyberbob has the best interests of the wiki at heart, whereas Iscariot just wants power.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 13:43, 26 September 2009 (BST) Vaguely? Vaguely more civil? You'll give my return to help the wiki a bad reputation. ;) What do you need? -- User:Iscariot/Signature 21:34, 12 September 2009 (BST) Thanks...i guess Thanks for fixing my formatting mate, despite you voting no... you evil, evil man. :-) Jpanzer 18:45, 19 September 2009 (BST) dunkay I miss your donkeys. Love, User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 14:59, 21 August 2009 (BST) There are still more to find.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 17:21, 21 August 2009 (BST) =O --User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode-- 17:29, 21 August 2009 (BST) Just a hint, look through my subpages.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 17:50, 21 August 2009 (BST) Stupid prick posting nonsense in the wrong place I noticed that you switched two structures on the Paynterton map. I fixed the error, but please avoid doing this in the future. I have included images on my edit as proof. --FLZombie 13:42, 23 August 2009 (BST) Note to all who pass through: The above comment is slander.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 17:47, 23 August 2009 (BST) Wow... btw, thanks for ratting me out in Treweeke, Yonnua :p -- boxy talk • teh rulz 13:08 5 September 2009 (BST) Well, you ARE a PKer, and I AM a survivor. I just thought that since we got back the mall, it'd be nice to keep it for a while, before MOB come and take it from us.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 13:27, 5 September 2009 (BST) Yonnua, you are absolutely right. I looked at the history and mistakenly believed you had switched the two buildings on the map. This was due to my inexperience in all things wiki related, but was made in good faith, while enthusiastically trying to fix mistakes that I see on suburb maps. I hope you can accept my public apology. --FLZombie 02:39, 13 September 2009 (BST) My bad Thanks for the tip, sorry about the mix up, funky internets at work. --Dhavid Grohl Dead Bunnies Controversy Thanks Thanks for your support on the "AnonSantlerville" page. It's not a Dribbling Beaver and the Rabbits have zero proof to support their "theory". They just throw around accusations wildly. Strange because that's what they accused us of, when we actually had them dead to rights on their zerging. Anyway, I think you are probably right on your guess as to that person's identity. There's no point in talking to them though. --Calista griffin 20:28, 18 August 2009 (BST) Calista, several members can corroborate that the user in question at the time of attack was Jack Heins. This leaves 2 alternatives: a)He took the screen himself or b)It was posted in the Beaver's forum, in which case the it was another beaver. --DTangent 09:08, 19 August 2009 (BST) Sherlock I'd like to know what amazing detective work led you to thinking "AnonSantlerville" was me. Please look at my contribution history if you are unsure why someone trolling the Dead Bunnies would make an inflammatory comment on my user talk. --DTangent 09:08, 19 August 2009 (BST) Thanks For the notification. Your right I'm not allowed to post there, but that correction was needed there because otherwise people get the wrong view of the rulings. Kind of you to contact me about that though.--Thadeous Oakley 19:58, 12 August 2009 (BST) Please forgive this compulsive old spelling nazi by the way :P --Thadeous Oakley 20:02, 12 August 2009 (BST) Fixed sig, thanks!--Thadeous Oakley A Challenge you ought to try 22:25, 13 August 2009 (BST) Thanks for the help with the suggestions page--Degree7 06:13, 9 August 2009 (BST) Because Wanyao didn't archive it Well, even if it isn't considered voting, then people can still meatpuppet it.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 21:23, 21 July 2009 (BST) Well, there are two things wrong with that idea. First, if a bunch of users that no one has heard from suddenly come in a weigh in on a user, then it will be obvious. Second, since it is not a vote and merely a vouching system, the crats are the ones who hold the power of the nomination. They can look at the users who vote, and if they find a bunch of meatpuppets or socks, then they will take what they say with a grain of salt. Meatpuppetry is pretty obvious, in most cases. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 21:28, 21 July 2009 (BST) Yes, but if it's the crats deciding, isn't the problem of self-policing still prevelant?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:12, 21 July 2009 (BST) They are the highest of the trusted users. They are nominated by the people and should have the people's best interests at heart. If they don't, then around the next crat review, they will get rotated out. Simple enough. In the meantime, you still have misconduct. Re-evaluations simply gives the community another tool for keeping everything working smoothly. --User:Akule/sig 22:18, 21 July 2009 (BST) Fair enough, though I still don't know wether they'd be completely impartial. Sure, they are highly trusted users, but they have friends, and I'm sure that they'd be willing to protect them. Some crats, not all, by any means, and almost definitely not the ones we have now. --User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:29, 21 July 2009 (BST) Fortunately, we have miscounduct and arbitration as ways to deal with that until the next round of crat vouching. --User:Akule/sig 22:32, 21 July 2009 (BST) Yay, August 15th! I'm torn between DDR and Boxy, who are you voting for?--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 22:36, 21 July 2009 (BST) Conndraka?--User:AnimeSucks/Sig 00:13, 22 July 2009 (BST) Will Conn even be running? He dropped out of the last election.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 11:04, 22 July 2009 (BST) You need a new sarcasm detector. User:Linkthewindow/Sig 14:42, 22 July 2009 (BST) Archiving If you decide to archive news, you have to place the entire month of June into the archive, not just one entry. --User:Axe27/Sig 17:37, 14 July 2009 (BST) [5]. You need to archive the ENTIRE month. --User:Axe27/Sig 17:41, 14 July 2009 (BST) You still need to archive the entire month, regardless of what is says, because no further content is going to be added.--User:Axe27/Sig 17:50, 14 July 2009 (BST) Yeah, sorry, I responded on your talk.--User:Yonnua Koponen/signature 17:51, 14 July 2009 (BST) Promotion Bid - Cyberbob There is one more little thing I'd like to address regarding my bid (our conversation there is taking up enough space as is). Your comment here makes me think that either you don't understand what I was saying or I wasn't being clear enough; basically what I mean is that the sort of behaviour you're upset with simply would not happen if I was a sysop. As I said, when you are a sysop there is a certain implicit pressre to take admin pages seriously even if you aren't performing an official sysop duty. You can't be misconducted, but you do still kind of feel like it's a requirement of the job. This goes for general behaviour on admin pages as well as the votes themselves. --Cyberbob 11:31, 10 June 2009 (BST) In relation to Cyberbob's bid, please show me this fantasy world where all of the admins are neutral and fair and kind? :D --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:01, 10 June 2009 (BST) Also, you should make an archive as, while it's not against the rules, it's considered poor form to not archive conversations. They're sometimes used as evidence in admin cases and requests, so when there is a history purge, if the comments aren't archived, the evidence is lost when you try to look back on it.--Mr. Angel, Help needed? 14:03, 10 June 2009 (BST) Alright, thankee! Also, my other comment was more of a joke. I forgot the smiley apparently. T_T --Mr. Angel, Help needed? 15:46, 11 June 2009 (BST) Searching Sorry if I'm being a nuisance ;) Did you uncheck Main, in order to have only Suggestion as search criteria (and then hit search and not go)? --User:Janus Abernathy/Sig 20:50, 1 June 2009 (BST)