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===[[User:Iscariot]] versus [[User:Cornholioo]]===
The Battle of Krinks is over. And like the Imperium before them, the NSU insist on trying to alter the result to paint themselves in a better light, diminish the impact others had and for very straightforward propaganda purposes.


As per the example of [[UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Saromu and Vandr vs Ioncannon11 and Kikashie|this case]] I seek to have the result and subsequent alterations to the article judged and assessed by a neutral third party.
I shall accept any of the following as arbitrator:
*[[User:Rosslessness]]
*[[User:Aichon]]
*[[User:Rosslessness]]
*[[User:Revenant]]
*[[User:Rosslessness]]
*[[User:Amber Waves of Pain]]
*[[User:Rosslessness]]
*[[User:Misanthropy]]
*[[User:Rosslessness]]
Hugs and kisses. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Whilst a member of the Knights, my [[User:Misanthropy/Characters/Grapple X|Knight]] character did not participate in this outing, as I was already in the area with a neutral [[User:Misanthropy/Characters/Misanthropy|alt]], from uninvolved group [[Burning chiton]]. As such, I am not stepping down as a potential arbitrator, and can point Cornholioo towards incidents of past acrimony between Iscariot and myself as proof of my impartiality. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 17:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:'past acrimony', I assume you me calling you on your attempts to meat puppet to gain a limited category as a propaganda bonus for your other group? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 17:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to offer to be the neutral third part that will judge and assess the edits to the article. -{{User:Poodle_of_doom/signiture}} 18:09, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:You attempted to ally with the Order to wipe out the other two factions, your ability to be impartial could be questioned, so I don't think you could arbitrate this case. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 18:20, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I volunteer to arbitrate, if only to get shot down by Iscariot.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 18:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:: Accepted. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 19:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:::You can take this as my shoot down ;) -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 14:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
::I'm just going to write down what is not correct about the page as it is right now. 1. the Coalition and the NSU have agreed the Battle of Krinks has ended on 21 March 2010. The PK do not recognize this, but keep editing the page to 22 March 2010. I would like to see this edited to 21 March 2010. 2. The NSU did not withdrew from the fight, but left after the fight was over to avoid a second one. I would like to see this edited. 3. Martino has posted this: "I revived Burning the Fire and killed a PKer inside the power station, but things do not look good. --Martino 22:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)" on the talk page of the Battle of Krinks (http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:Battle_of_Krinks). The PK keep denying to have lost a man. I would like to see the death count of the PK edited to 'dubious' untill further notice. 4. I have corrected this mistake: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Battle_of_Krinks&diff=1679649&oldid=1679646 of Iscariot, which the Iscariot keeps editing back. This has nothing to do with the thing he reported me for, so I would like to see this edited. 5. The PK claim to have made an NPOV article. However, this: "On March 22 the Philosophe Knights declared complete victory and completion of their aims after the previous day's withdrawal of the NSU, the complete removal of non-Knights from Krinks and the pinata-ing of the entire building. Less than a week after entering the conflict, the Knights considered that they had made their lesson abundantly clear and that there was nothing further to accomplish.
::With the NSU abandoning the area and the Philosophe Knights indicating that they would leave the area after having taught their lesson to both participants meant that Krinks would be left in the hands of the WWSIS and that the Battle of Krinks would come to a close.", is not NPOV. 6. The NSU doesn't agree on the results of this battle. The PK claim victory, but this is only subjective. The NSU can claim victory for several reasons as well. I would prefer to place only facts here. The only this that have changed, are: a. Krinks got partially ruined. b. The coalition got driven off krinks (most likely temporary). c. The PK have entered krinks (most likely temporary). 7. This is not completely right: "demanding a mutual cessation of conflict and offering future cooperation in protecting Malton's Power Stations." We have demanded a mutual cessation of conflict and offered to add to our wiki page that other survivor groups help us in achieving our goals. Also see this page: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Talk:National_Socialist_Union.
::A lot of this is POV or simply wrong. Still Iscariot keeps editing them back. The page has been locked now, so truth can't be spoken. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 18:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
:::''Truth''? From a Nazi? Who treated a mainspace page like his own personal page? Yeah, right. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 14:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Exactly. "You're a nazi so you can't say the truth", useless argument. In other words: "everything you say is wrong". That makes no sense. And like I've already explained, I didnt threat the article as my personal page. I've reproduced facts and facts only in the article. What you are doing right now is writing a POV article, you are the treating the article as your personal page. You've even refused to accept a neutral person to rewrite the article. Still you dare to call it NPOV and you even dare to insult me of treating 'a mainspace page like' my 'own personal page'. Now you're inviting a bunch of your PK friends to arbitrate this case. '''SHAME ON YOU'''. Though, I have already reacted on this, but you just keep repeating the same argument untill I get tired of it. When I then don't react on it anymore, you have won the debate. '''The Jew keeps repeating the same argument all the time. When the Aryan gets tired of it the Jew says his question hasn't been answered.''' If the Philosophe Knights are really so intelligent as they say, then start acting like it. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 8:51, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure if I'm allowed to contribute to this discussion or not, but.. Well, I must say - The comment above (Specifically, the hate speech-sounding one) is low, very low. It has no meaning in this debate, is an direct insult to involved parties, would probably be illegal if uttered where I live and is largely fictional. Sorry for the intrusion. I apologize if I have broken a rule or two. [[User:Infrastructure|Infrastructure]] 14:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::I'm just explaining a problem. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 9:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
As much as I'm flattered that Iscariot would name me as an arbitrator, I'm afraid I have a potential conflict of interest since I was an involved party (I participated in killing those inside Krinks with my Knight alt). While I do believe I could remain objective and impartial in a ruling on this subject, this matter can be easily resolved by other arbitrators, so I see no reason why I shouldn't recuse myself and save myself the hassle of dealing with accusations of partiality should the ruling not go the way people want. So, yeah, I'm recusing myself. Cheers. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't know jack about '''any''' of this, so I'd make a perfectly impartial party! I've no ties against or for either party that would influence me unfairly in arbitrating this case.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 00:45, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
LOL-Bias. Accept Yonnua. Lets see how he's developing as a member of the community. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:54, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
:No, you do it :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 14:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
:Chucking my hat in the ring. I watch the PK talk page and read the battle of the krinks page once, but that's my entire involvement. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 13:13, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
::You have a concrete history of vandalising Philosophe Knight pages, can you guess what my response is going to be? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 14:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
::: Heh. I'd forgotten about that! Oh dear. If it's any consolation, I've got a concrete history of vandalising the [[Red Rum]] page, despite being the group leader at the time. --[[User:Karloth_vois|Karloth Vois]] <sup>[[¯\(°_o)/¯]]</sup> 23:19, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I offer to arbitrate. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 16:27, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
:I accept. --[[User:Cornholioo]] 14:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
If its not too late I'd like to be the Arbitatortot. I have a lot of experience with Arby's as I've been here many times. Their $5.01 deal is quite good and their Roast Spambeef sandwiches are delicious with Arby's Sauce. If you pick me I promise I will go extra hard on the person that I choose to lose. So if you want your opponent to get a weak slap on the wrist then pick one of the faggots above. They'll be too busy sucking major cock to properly lay the smack down. I, on the other hand, will go over the evidence and from that alone decide who lives and who dies. The decision will be fair, the punishment will not. So if you want top vanquish your enemy then choose me. Also, if you do not choose me you are admitting that you are also a faggot and give me permission to say so on my userpage. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 00:34, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
:I do not accept. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 14:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
::Aight, you're a faggot and I'm saying so on my userpage. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 00:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to reiterate the arbitrators that I will accept in hopes my opponent will actually get this case going rather than whine all over the wiki about it rather than doing something to get the page finished. I will accept:
*[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]]
*[[User:Revenant|Revenant]]
*[[User:Rosslessness|Less]]
*[[User:Misanthropy|Misanthropy]]
*[[User:Rosslessness|Ness]]
*[[User:Amber Waves of Pain|Amber Waves of Pain]]
*[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]]
-- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 07:46, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
:please? --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 07:10, 28 March 2010 (BST)
::He's already said no. You can't have a 'trator that isn't approved by both parties. Sowwy. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 10:48, 28 March 2010 (BST)
:::*[[User:Rosslessness|Ross]] Denied
:::*[[User:Revenant|Revenant]] Denied
:::*[[User:Rosslessness|Less]] Denied
:::*[[User:Misanthropy|Misanthropy]] Denied
:::*[[User:Rosslessness|Ness]] Denied
:::*[[User:Amber Waves of Pain|Amber Waves of Pain]] Denied
:::*[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] Denied
:::Already explained why. White regards, --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 15:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
::::You haven't explained in the slightest, but I have no desire to give you another tangent to go off on to delay this case further. Pick a list of arbitrators you would prefer then. Given you keep saying that page is false it is in your interest to get this case resolved as quickly as possible so the information on it can be changed. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 18:13, 29 March 2010 (BST)
:::::I'll stick to accepting/denying ones that apply. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 10:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
So far that's [[User:Krazy Monkey]], anyone else you've accepted I missed? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:29, 30 March 2010 (BST)
:Cheese has had a recent history of severe and random absence from wiki activity. In order to get this case resolved quickly I'm unwilling to take the chance and will decline Cheese. My opponent is still complaining about the page being wrong in his opinion but makes not attempt to call new arbitrators to speed up this case I see. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 18:29, 30 March 2010 (BST)
::I've already explained, but seen as your intelligence requires it I tell you one more time: they are your PKer friends. There are also some which I've had arguments with before, so I don't accept them. I've also accepted Yonnua, but you've denied him too. DanceDanceRevolution maybe? --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 7:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Rosslessness is a PKer? News to me. And Misanthropy is many things, but my friend he is not. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 10:39, 31 March 2010 (BST)
:::::'''I will try this one very last time: READ CAREFULLY:''' ''"There are also some which I've had arguments with before"''. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 20:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have killed 10 survivors across 3 cities in 3 years. Here's [[Malton_Manhunt/Axe_Hack's_Manhunt_2#The_Results|9]] of them. Frankly I feel its massively AP inefficient. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:37, 1 April 2010 (BST)
::::::Speaking of which, let's get one of those beasts up and running again. I need my throne back!!! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 17:39, 1 April 2010 (BST)
:::::::Im running a story competition, trying to create an entirely fictional city, flagging up coding errors with the New RG and reorganising the glossary. And you're being less active. Too much effort this week. Plus I may abandon UD altogether if there's no '''FUCKING APRIL FOOLS UPDATE'''. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 17:42, 1 April 2010 (BST)
:::Although doing the case would be interesting, Iscariot wouldn't accept me, not that I blame him with the track record he and I have had together. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 08:44, 31 March 2010 (BST)
::::DDR is right, unfortunately there is a lot of bad blood between us and I don't think either of us would choose the other for a case. How about Suicidal Angel? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 10:39, 31 March 2010 (BST)
:For the record I am about, my absence is only down to a combination of Uni work and work work. However I'm on holiday for the next 3 weeks from Uni so I have a stupidly large amount of free time. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 18:36, 1 April 2010 (BST)
::Will you accept now Iscariot? --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 20:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
May I arbi for you two?--[[User:Dragon fang|Dragon fang]] 08:37, 1 April 2010 (BST)
k, I'll accept Rosslessness. Lets see what will happen now. --[[User:Cornholioo|Cornholioo]] 2:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Excitement. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:38, 10 April 2010 (BST)
::Confirming acceptance of Rosslessness. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 01:11, 11 April 2010 (BST)


=Arbitration Cases in Progress=
=Arbitration Cases in Progress=

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While the wiki community attempts to work on the basis of encouragement and cooperation, there are occasions where wiki users find themselves unable to reach accord. In the event of this happening, the Arbitration Team may be called upon to intervene, and attempt to find a reasonable compromise that, while perhaps not satisfying both parties, may at least assist in defusing the situation, thanks to the unbiased third party.

Guidelines for Arbitration Requests

In assisting in Arbitration, we generally suggest that both parties agree to the Arbitration. This is not, by any means, a requirement, but we do require that both parties be represented in proceedings.

Any Arbitration request should provide at least the following:

  • The aggrieved parties. Either person vs person, or [list of people] vs [list of people].
  • The reason for the arbitration. This should very specifically be without reference to people, as that information has already been provided. It should be a short paragraph indicating the causes of the aggrievement, and why both parties feel it requires arbitration
  • Any pages affected by the aggrievement. This should be a simple list of links.

Once the Arbitration commences, the Arbitrator will request statements from all parties involved. Any evidence to back up one's statement should be provided in link form. Each party will then have an opportunity to rebut their opponent's statement. After these two steps, the Arbitrator will then consider the case, and reach a conclusion, and determine the outcome that is required. It's the duty of the Arbitrator to move a case he accepted to a subpage of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration, and to update the status of the arbitration case in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.

As a note, by requesting an Arbitration, all parties are thus obliged to accept the outcome of the Arbitration. Not doing will be considered Vandalism, and such vandalism attempts will be treated as if the vandal has already received two warnings.

After the Arbitration is over, it will then be moved to an archive page. As publicly accessible pages, they may be used to establish precedent in further, applicable cases.

Current Arbitrators

For guidelines on how to arbitrate, see Arbitration Guidelines.

The following users have placed their hand up as users who are willing to be contacted to act as an Arbitrator. The role of Arbitrator is not restricted to the Administration Team; any user can be contacted as an Arbitrator (even if not listed below) and use this page for the arbitration, so long as both parties agree to the Arbitrator. Users who wish to place their hand up as an Arbitrator should place their name below on the list, using *{{usr|YourUserPage}}

Also note that not all listed Arbitrators are active on the Wiki.

Volunteer Arbitrators in Alphabetical Order

Arbitration Cases Currently Under Consideration

Administration Notice
Use this header to create new arbitration cases. Once all sides have chosen an arbiter, move the case to a sub-page of UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration and update its status in the Arbitration Cases in Progress section.





Arbitration Cases in Progress

Iscariot vs Cornholioo

Involved Users Iscariot Vs. Cornholioo
Arbitrator Rosslessness
Created 11:31, 11 April 2010 (BST) by Iscariot
Status Commencing
Summary Dispute over Battle of Krinks page.


Recently Concluded cases

Haliman vs Lithedarkangel

Involved Users Haliman Vs. Li
Arbitrator The Colonel
Created 02:58, 6 April 2010 (BST) by Haliman
Status closed
Summary Dispute over claims on who rules the UBCS group page.


Cornholioo vs Saromu

Involved Users Cornholioo Vs. Saromu
Arbitrator none
Created 12:34, March 26 2010 (UTC) by Cornholio
Status Archived
Summary Dispute over claims made about Cornholioo on Saromu's talk page.


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