Suggestion:20101002 Zombie Moan

20101002 Zombie Moan

 Swiers 05:23, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Suggestion type
improvement to in game information

Suggestion scope
zombies in particular circumstances & anybody who can see them

Suggestion description
The recent update added a feature where by zombies have a persistent indicator as to locations that are of special interest to them (the location they can track a survivor to with "Scent Trail", or from which they most recently heard a groan / bellow.) The suggestion aims to allow zombies to communicate that information to others, in a limited and passive way.

A current feature of this update is that, when standing outside a building in the location indicated by this new feature, they see a message saying "You feel drawn to enter." For purposes of this suggestions, I'll refer to this as the zombie's target building.

What this suggestion would do is indicate to anybody in a location (outside the target building) how many zombies in that location had that building as their target building. The indication would be via them "moaning", which is simply a modifier to the description of the (number of) zombies present. For example, if three zombies were outside a building, you might read that "There is a mob of three zombies here. One of them is moaning." Reading this would tell you that one of the three zombies had either recently heard groans coming from that building, or has a scent trail to a survivor inside the building.

The main benefit of this suggestion would be that Ferals would have some extra information to work with- namely, they could guess that a lone zombie moaning outside a barricaded building probably has a scent trail to a survivor inside. A survivor who walks around outside and sees the same thing would have the same information. A secondary bonus would be to effectively extend the range of groans (especially the "quiet" ones common with fewer survivors around) and allow zombies who sleep inside to benefit from groans; if you see that more than a couple zombies are moaning, chances are they heard groans coming from that location that you did not hear because you were inside / to far away.

Voting Section

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Keep Votes

1. Keep/Change - I like the idea, but I'd prefer if it was a skill under the Memories of Life tree, and not (if I understand it correctly) free. It's basically an automatic zero-range feeding groan that can be transmitted to anyone who's passing in front of a building by just standing there. --Aeon17x 07:11, 2 October 2010 (BST)
2. Keep/Change - Make it unavailable to survivors. They pass by in a rush (they may just be swaying, but they still aren't harmless), and don't bother to note how many are making noise (it all sound the same to the untrained ear), whereas zombies have the feeling of safety required to use their instinctual perception of various zombie sounds. --VVV ^RPMBG 07:54, 2 October 2010 (BST)
3. Keep/Change Maybe a bit of tweaking, such as a cheap skill, or only in certain conditions. Only being able to be seen by zombies, but aside from that I like this. Gat 07:59, 2 October 2010 (BST)
4. Keep - I love it. This would be a very welcome buff to feral gameplay, which could definitely use some love. It does a great job at providing benefit to the ferals without making the hordes more deadly. —Aichon— 09:01, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Its too powerful, because it means if one zombie has a scent trail, they all see it -Dezonus- ^(talk) 07:49, 2 October 2010 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

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