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:[[File:Girls laughing with facepalm.png|Paid for by the Committee to Point and Laugh at the Painfully Butthurt]]--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 23:40, 31 March 2012 (BST) <!--It's true, we took advantage of Axe's mom, but be fair, she promised to feed us after!-->
:[[File:Girls laughing with facepalm.png|Paid for by the Committee to Point and Laugh at the Painfully Butthurt]]--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 23:40, 31 March 2012 (BST) <!--It's true, we took advantage of Axe's mom, but be fair, she promised to feed us after!-->
::I'm not sure if ya pwned Axe so definitively why the remainder of the comments are now gone.  However, didn't you attack CAPD when you were still the Orange Brigade?  I, unlike Axe, was there and don't recall a single Oedipus Wrecks tag.  So, why are you claiming ownership of an attack a different group accomplished?  I also seem to remember OB was a PKer group, who resorted to zombie attacks due to an inability to stay alive.  But, perhaps, my memory is faulty.  --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 13:36, 1 July 2012 (BST)
::I'm not sure if ya pwned Axe so definitively why the remainder of the comments are now gone.  However, didn't you attack CAPD when you were still the Orange Brigade?  I, unlike Axe, was there and don't recall a single Oedipus Wrecks tag.  So, why are you claiming ownership of an attack a different group accomplished?  I also seem to remember OB was a PKer group, who resorted to zombie attacks due to an inability to stay alive.  But, perhaps, my memory is faulty.  --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 13:36, 1 July 2012 (BST)
:::The comments are removed because this page does not need to be cluttered up with Axe's efforts to twist the facts to support his smear campaign.  You did not see Oedipus Wrecks tags because at the time we did not have a name at all.  We never limited ourselves to solely pking and in fact use whatever life status suits our resources and strategy at a given time.  That is what is commonly known as death culting.  You saw the OB tags because three of our members were previously in what could loosely be called a group they identified as Orange Brigade (they have no wiki, no irc and are really just 3 buddies who occasionally brought there alts together to play a bit.)  I saw no reason to have them change that because I am not always in the business of making it easy for my opponents to identify us. It is your hunter group that failed to stack many claims not OW who couldn't get or stay alive if that is what we wanted, Kirsty. You were there, you saw us controlling the state of the real estate surrounding CAPD's HQ and you saw that we stomped them and the allies they called in for assistance. And we'll do it again...perhaps CAPD and your collection of hunters have forgotten how we dominated that area and require a refresher course? Spoiler Alert:  3 zergs outside of any building they occupy will not protect them from us.--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 17:14, 1 July 2012 (BST)
:::The comments are removed because this page is not meant to be a forum for Axe's efforts to twist the facts to support his smear campaign against yet another group.  You did not see Oedipus Wrecks tags because at the time we did not have a name at all.  We never limited ourselves to solely pking and in fact use whatever life status suits our resources and strategy at a given time.  That is what is commonly known as death culting.  You saw the OB tags because three of our members were previously in what could loosely be called a group they identified as Orange Brigade (they have no wiki, no irc and are really just 3 buddies who occasionally brought there alts together to play a bit.)  I saw no reason to have them change that because I am not always in the business of making it easy for my opponents to identify us. It is your hunter group that failed to stack many claims not OW who couldn't get or stay alive if that is what we wanted, Kirsty. You were there, you saw us controlling the state of the real estate surrounding CAPD's HQ and you saw that we stomped them and the allies they called in for assistance. And we'll do it again...perhaps CAPD and your collection of hunters have forgotten how we dominated that area and require a refresher course? Spoiler Alert:  3 zergs outside of any building they occupy will not protect them from us.--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 17:14, 1 July 2012 (BST)
::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Oedipus_Wrecks&diff=prev&oldid=2009568 You're arguing with a forensic science major.] Do you honestly think I'll argue something without [http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6307/evidencea.jpg evidence]? Censored because I know the importance of witness protection. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 13:48, 1 July 2012 (BST)
::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Talk:Oedipus_Wrecks&diff=prev&oldid=2009568 You're arguing with a forensic science major.] Do you honestly think I'll argue something without [http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6307/evidencea.jpg evidence]? Censored because I know the importance of witness protection. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 13:48, 1 July 2012 (BST)
:::I am effectively defending against a lying incompetent who seems to think claiming to be a student in something gives him credibility even as he misinterprets the facts to suit his own bias, LOL.  So lemme break it down to you like a teacher might...watch and learn, Grasshopper. You have provided a subjective declaration, specifically an erroneous assumption that you (a non-witness) made (and put quotes around) saying that OW took advantage of a residential zerg and then you ''called it evidence.''  You have further provided a declaration made by CZ (who was a witness with an alt in the OW crew though that alt's initials are not CZ) saying that ''we did not coordinate with the zergs but that any time OW and Spandy were together was "just a coincidence."'' The most common form of evidence is the testimony of witnesses. A witness can be a person who actually viewed the events at issue and as your chat shows she states that OW did not move based on when the zergs moved but when our alts were already gathered after striking with alts in another group (that was well away from the OW area of operation.) The "pattern" you say is made of "many" coincidences is actually not a pattern taken from the whole operation (which lasted 7 weeks) but from a small fraction of the time we spent in Faulkes Village, specifically the 2 or 3 days that we targeted the Crew Ave PD.  Neither CZ or I are lying, you are taking the events of 2 or 3 days in a 7 week operation and calling it a pattern while ignoring the 46 or so days we were not striking at the same target or time as Spandy.  You have also conveniently ignored the fact that spandy almost exclusively targets the Crew Ave PD and that the occasion you are observing was the time when both CAPD and ACC had piled most of their members within it.  We attacked there ''because that is where CAPD determined the standoff would be.''  We do not believe that 3 zergs focused on the same target every day should prevent us from attacking our opponents especially when our opponents were the ones who chose to station themselves there. I guess your forensic science program hasn't explained the part about the importance of looking at the full picture presented by the observable facts and reliable witness testimony when deducing the way events unfold, huh, axe?  Glad I could be of assistance.--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 17:38, 1 July 2012 (BST)


==Group Subpages==
==Group Subpages==
OW/posters moved to [[Oedipus Wrecks/posters]]. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:22, 24 May 2012 (BST)
OW/posters moved to [[Oedipus Wrecks/posters]]. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:22, 24 May 2012 (BST)
:Is there some reason the posters can't be linked as we had them?  I know you like to hang around us and touch our junk (much like your mama) but we'd prefer them to be placed as they were; I'll correct this soon if there is no reasonable objection.--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 23:55, 7 June 2012 (BST)
:Is there some reason the posters can't be linked as we had them?  I know you like to hang around us and touch our junk (much like your mama) but we'd prefer them to be placed as they were; I'll correct this soon if there is no reasonable objection.--{{User:Natasha Fatale/Sig}} 23:55, 7 June 2012 (BST)

Revision as of 16:38, 1 July 2012

A Contradiction

"Zergs need not apply." I'm sure that pretty much means this group's actual membership number is zero. Plenty of evidence to go around that you took advantage of zergs. Plenty of evidence indeed. Go ahead and remove this. This'll be easily dug up from the history tab anyways, with it being the first edit and all. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 08:36, 31 March 2012 (BST)

The Accurate Depiction
Now why would we bother to delete this when it's so obviously sour grapes? You got beat...you cry zerg...and you think this reflects on us? No, Axe, we will leave your clumsy, transparent excuses entirely unmolested as a monument to your colossal dipshititude. Regrettably, we can't say the same about your mom.
Paid for by the Committee to Point and Laugh at the Painfully Butthurt--Natasha FataleDevil heart.jpg 23:40, 31 March 2012 (BST)
I'm not sure if ya pwned Axe so definitively why the remainder of the comments are now gone. However, didn't you attack CAPD when you were still the Orange Brigade? I, unlike Axe, was there and don't recall a single Oedipus Wrecks tag. So, why are you claiming ownership of an attack a different group accomplished? I also seem to remember OB was a PKer group, who resorted to zombie attacks due to an inability to stay alive. But, perhaps, my memory is faulty. --Open the Box Org XIII Alts 13:36, 1 July 2012 (BST)
The comments are removed because this page is not meant to be a forum for Axe's efforts to twist the facts to support his smear campaign against yet another group. You did not see Oedipus Wrecks tags because at the time we did not have a name at all. We never limited ourselves to solely pking and in fact use whatever life status suits our resources and strategy at a given time. That is what is commonly known as death culting. You saw the OB tags because three of our members were previously in what could loosely be called a group they identified as Orange Brigade (they have no wiki, no irc and are really just 3 buddies who occasionally brought there alts together to play a bit.) I saw no reason to have them change that because I am not always in the business of making it easy for my opponents to identify us. It is your hunter group that failed to stack many claims not OW who couldn't get or stay alive if that is what we wanted, Kirsty. You were there, you saw us controlling the state of the real estate surrounding CAPD's HQ and you saw that we stomped them and the allies they called in for assistance. And we'll do it again...perhaps CAPD and your collection of hunters have forgotten how we dominated that area and require a refresher course? Spoiler Alert: 3 zergs outside of any building they occupy will not protect them from us.--Natasha FataleDevil heart.jpg 17:14, 1 July 2012 (BST)
You're arguing with a forensic science major. Do you honestly think I'll argue something without evidence? Censored because I know the importance of witness protection. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 13:48, 1 July 2012 (BST)
I am effectively defending against a lying incompetent who seems to think claiming to be a student in something gives him credibility even as he misinterprets the facts to suit his own bias, LOL. So lemme break it down to you like a teacher might...watch and learn, Grasshopper. You have provided a subjective declaration, specifically an erroneous assumption that you (a non-witness) made (and put quotes around) saying that OW took advantage of a residential zerg and then you called it evidence. You have further provided a declaration made by CZ (who was a witness with an alt in the OW crew though that alt's initials are not CZ) saying that we did not coordinate with the zergs but that any time OW and Spandy were together was "just a coincidence." The most common form of evidence is the testimony of witnesses. A witness can be a person who actually viewed the events at issue and as your chat shows she states that OW did not move based on when the zergs moved but when our alts were already gathered after striking with alts in another group (that was well away from the OW area of operation.) The "pattern" you say is made of "many" coincidences is actually not a pattern taken from the whole operation (which lasted 7 weeks) but from a small fraction of the time we spent in Faulkes Village, specifically the 2 or 3 days that we targeted the Crew Ave PD. Neither CZ or I are lying, you are taking the events of 2 or 3 days in a 7 week operation and calling it a pattern while ignoring the 46 or so days we were not striking at the same target or time as Spandy. You have also conveniently ignored the fact that spandy almost exclusively targets the Crew Ave PD and that the occasion you are observing was the time when both CAPD and ACC had piled most of their members within it. We attacked there because that is where CAPD determined the standoff would be. We do not believe that 3 zergs focused on the same target every day should prevent us from attacking our opponents especially when our opponents were the ones who chose to station themselves there. I guess your forensic science program hasn't explained the part about the importance of looking at the full picture presented by the observable facts and reliable witness testimony when deducing the way events unfold, huh, axe? Glad I could be of assistance.--Natasha FataleDevil heart.jpg 17:38, 1 July 2012 (BST)

Group Subpages

OW/posters moved to Oedipus Wrecks/posters. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ #nerftemplatedsigs 21:22, 24 May 2012 (BST)

Is there some reason the posters can't be linked as we had them? I know you like to hang around us and touch our junk (much like your mama) but we'd prefer them to be placed as they were; I'll correct this soon if there is no reasonable objection.--Natasha FataleDevil heart.jpg 23:55, 7 June 2012 (BST)