Help talk:Wiki Update

Stealthexternallink

Karek said:

Fairly certain this was a user made CSS change, it is not present in the new CSS import from MediaWiki that came with the update.

I think you're right about it not being present in the import but it has since been added back to common.css. It works fine now with skins other than default. ~ _{22:10, 22 April 2011}

Ok, probably a waste of time but ok. Every time we update, however rarely, this will continue be an issue. Seems like it'd be simpler just to try and keep up with MediaWiki's version of it but hell, whatever works. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 22:30, 22 April 2011 (BST)

I'm really not against changing all stealth externals to plainlinks if we can isolate them. I've already begun on some of my projects. I just don't want it to turn into "we don't need to worry about urbandead skin because we fixed all the class id issues". I'm also not all that confident in the new search just yet. When looking for townBox yesterday, search didn't even find your user page. Stealthexternal is a popular id and some are likely to slip past. ~ _{23:49, 22 April 2011}

Start at templates: and move down by namespace? Also, we can fit stealthexternal and such into Mediawiki:urbandead.css, so long as you can explain what the visual differences are from what it used to be I'm sure we can figure out how to fix them but, there shouldn't actually be any with the current version. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 04:58, 23 April 2011 (BST)

I'll give it a go. There are quite a few things, though. RC looks totally different. Red exclamation marks for non-patrolled pages (sysop only) are screwy. Gray boxes at the bottom of uncategorized pages. That's to name a few. ~ _{17:11, 23 April 2011}

The gray boxes probably has something to do with the lack of a .js for the urbandead skin and possibly the lack of code for hiding it in common.js if I had to guess. It's for Categories but the other skins don't show it when it's not in use afaik(I use MonoBook pretty exclusively). Don't know about the RC issue without having buttans. --Karek^{maps 2.0?!} 02:48, 24 April 2011 (BST)

Some sort of an update yesterday?

The wiki was down a few hours yesterday for maintenance, and following that, it appears that some of the data may have been corrupted ever-so-slightly. For instance, every single em dash ("—") I've seen has been replaced with "—", including in the history of the pages. It's a simple matter of fixing it, and I've already replaced a few templates where em dashes appear, but we'll likely need to be on the lookout for more stuff that has changed. —Aichon— 16:46, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

My games are an inconsistent mess. Sigh. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks like additional characters were added all over the pace. Hundreds, probably thousands, of broken links. Its proper fucked. Look as Sexual Harrison's user page, The Fortress Recruit ad, and any page that has Yonnua Kopponen's signature for just a few hundred examples. ~ _{04:36, 20 February 2014 (UTC)}

Looks like that's because "‎" is inserting itself into seemingly random places where previously there was either a space or no text at all. I actually first saw the issue because my signature was screwed up. Anyway, I'm just correcting the issues as I see them. Umbrella Corporation had a piece of hover text that was screwed up too. Might be worth making an announcement on the wiki news. —Aichon— 04:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, what the hell do we do with this? —Aichon— 06:34, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Uh, pretend we didn't see it. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm with AHLG. Maybe a notice at the top by a sysop that points to this conversation and on the off chance they come back to the wiki, they can fix it accordingly. Also, I'm not sure this has anything to do with this, but since when did UDWiki have a skin named swearcheck? I don't recall ever seeing it. It just appears to be a Vector based skin and doesn't seem to do anything special. ~ _{01:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC)}

Oh that's what was I'd thought I just went insane :P --Storm 02:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The DangerReport system seems affected, but I'm not familiar enough with it to tackle the problem right now. Examples: Shuttlebank#Resource Locations and User:DangerReport/DangerCenter. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:16, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Well I guess it's this. I'm not sure what kind of symbol ▋is supposed to be. I can't remember what things looked like before. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:20, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

▋ is ▋. That's what it's supposed to be. ;) Anyway, I'm on it. Got the DangerReports mostly working again for the stuff you pointed out. Working on DangerCenter now. —Aichon— 22:26, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, dealt with the stuff you linked. I'll poke around some more in the system to see if there's anything else, but I at least got everything I saw on the pages you linked and the immediately related templates. —Aichon— 23:02, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

We probably need to figure out this one for him, since his sig is templated and all over the place. —Aichon— 00:17, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

A long time ago in a wiki far, far away... there once was this thing (╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Nice. Very nice. Also, there's a redirect at ◆◆◆ which used to be at ◆◆◆, but I can't reach ◆◆◆ since the wiki insists on trying capitalize it to —†â—†â—†. Do you happen to remember what the trick was to reach unreachable pages? —Aichon— 00:35, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused about which page you're referring to. What's the page linking to? Hitting the edit tab and editing the URL worked for these. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about the confusion. It appears that the links I made go to the wrong page, despite the wikicode being correct. Ugh.

Basically, I was looking at what pages link to DSS Red Zone Support, and I noticed this on the What Links Here page. See how it's spelled as "◆◆◆" and exists as a redirect? I believe it's a redirect that was formerly at ◆◆◆. Unfortunately, if you try to visit it or link it, the wiki replaces it with a redlink to —†â—†â—† instead, since the wiki insists on trying to capitalize the first "â".

I was afraid that the trick you linked was the one we used in the past, since I had already tried it and had no success. The wiki insists on taking me to —†â—†â—† when I enter "◆◆◆" in the URL bar. All I want to do is move the redirect at ◆◆◆ back to ◆◆◆, but the only way to change the source page when doing an admin move action is to feed in the source page from the URL...which means it gets auto-capitalized as —†â—†â—†. So, yeah, a bit annoying. I'll probably just make a new redirect at ◆◆◆ for the DSS at this point, since it's beginning to look like we may not be able to get to the actual ◆◆◆ page to move it to where it should go. —Aichon— 15:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

And this one too. Guh. —Aichon— 00:48, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, got that one. —Aichon— 00:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Something I just noticed is that the search index seems to not be updating itself until after the page gets visited. That is, you can do a search for a term like "•", get no results, visit a page that happens to have "•" on it, and then re-run the search to get that page as a result. As such, without a bot, there's no way we can clean this up. We really will be finding these things for years to come, but I think we can get the worst of them, thankfully. For instance, I think I figured out a different way to find all of Yonn's wayward sigs, by using the what links here page for the errant page they all link to. —Aichon— 16:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

List of replacements

Ok, I'm thinking we may want to have a reference for later use, since this is clearly a widespread problem, so here's a list of what I can see has been swapped:

• Ã in place of Ä?
• ä in place of ä
• é in place of é
• ê in place of ê
• ñ in place of ñ
• ˆž in place of ∞
• „ in place of Ä?
• ‎ in place of an invisible character that was there before?
• – in place of <unknown> (– maybe?)
• — in place of —
• … in place of …
• ’ in place of ’ (note: smart apostrophe, not to be confused with ')
• “ in place of “ (note: smart quotation mark, not to be confused with ")
• †in place of ” (note: smart quotation mark, not to be confused with ")
• • in place of •
• ╯ in place of <unknown>
• ☠in place of <unknown>
• ☺ in place of ☺
• â–¡ in place of □
• â–§ in place of ▧
• â–ˆ in place of ▋
• ● in place of ●
• â—† in place of ◆
• ♥ in place of ❤
• ➤ in place of ↳
• ↵ in place of ↵
• ╯ in place of ╯
• â” in place of ━
• â”» in place of ┻
• â„‚ in place of ℂ
• â“‚ in place of Ⓜ
• ✳ in place of ✳
• Ç in place of ǝ
• É in place of ɐ
• ɯ in place of ɯ
• É¥ in place of ɥ
• Ê in place of ʍ
• ʇ in place of ʇ
• ÊŽ in place of ʎ
• χ in place of Χ
• Ω in place of Ω
• Â getting inserted before a load of characters, including º, ·, ±, §, ¡, ¿, ¶, ¼, ¾, £, ¥, ¹, ², ³, ½, ¤, ¢

Feel free to edit my comment to add any others you find, that way we can keep this useful for later wiki editors who stumble upon these issues and wonder what the original was supposed to be. I'm basing most of this off of AHLG's ongoing work. —Aichon— 06:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

This list might come in handy, although it unfortunately doesn't cover every special character. Maybe someone else can find more of the same. With a complete list, fixing the wiki could be a simple bot job. -- Spiderzed▋ 17:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

List of pages needing work

Feel free to add or strike out items on this list:

• The unlinkable/unreachable "◆◆◆" page needs to be moved back to ◆◆◆
• Fixing bad links to ˆž with links to ∞
• Subst'd sigs for:
  • boxy
  • Yonn
• Templated sigs for:
  • Lady Clitoria
  • MatthewFarenheit
  • Poodle of Doom
  • SA
• User pages
  • User:Alexander Dawkins/Nav
  • User talk:Janus_Abernathy
  • User_talk:Katthew/Zombie Improvements#Bellow
  • User:Lady Clitoria
  • User:Michaleson/archive/1#Question

Useful searches for finding pages needing work:

• This, this, this, this, and this for finding messed up Yonn sigs
• ¯\(°_o)/¯ should be replaced with ¯\(°_o)/¯
• —The should be replaced with –The
• Piñata should be replaced with Piñata