Talk:Military skills

What exactly does it mean about being "inside" a block with no buildings?

Like which one?

"Free Running is an increasingly important skill as more and more human players are using barricades to defend themselves. A free runner can enter heavily barricaded strongholds, and move quickly to useful areas without wasting an AP on entering them (however, the slightly strange behaviour of Free Running which means that one can be "inside" in a block with no building counteracts this benefit)"

It's a bug. If you have Free Running and you walk from a building to a street, you're still "inside" as far as the server's concerned -- weirdly, you can see the people in the neighbouring buildings, but not the zombies and people out on the street that you're standing on. Basically, once you're using Free Running you have to leave the last building in a chain properly, or it all goes screwy. If you can think of a snappy way of explaining it feel free to edit. (Or maybe we should start Category: Known Bugs, write the bug up as its own page, and refactor it to be "(however, the Free Running bug counteracts this benefit)". However, I am too lazy to do any of this right now. Morlock 01:03, 9 Sep 2005 (BST)

Can we clarify whether adjacent does or does not include diagonal? wcoleda

"There are currently no disadvantages since the Free Running bug appears to have been fixed as of 30 Dec 2005."

I think that sentence is false, because when I got free running, I was annoyed that I couldn't just jump outside the next building with only one AP. Nowadays I need to jump to next building and exit it, or go to block near it and then walk to that one, still using 2 APs. (Normally that wouldn't be bad, but there just are some times that only one AP does matter while attacking zeds on next block. --Niilomaan 11:23, 19 May 2006 (BST)

• You are correct. I've removed the erroneous paragraph and added a short explanation of how Free Running now works. My writing skills are quite poor, so if anyone can clarify the addition I'd be most grateful. Also, I have added that none of the military skills help zombie characters. I hope this is actually correct! --ExplodingFerret 18:02, 1 October 2006 (BST)

I'm a little confused on exactly how freerunning works (as far as building types). I'm not positive if monuments, junkyards, carparks, parks, and zoos are considered "buildings" or if they're considered "outside". Someone should clarify which buildings have an inside and which ones don't so it's easier to plan a moving strategy and not get caught outside. --Z3rochaos 03:35, 8 June 2006 (BST) EDIT - I found the information about buildings and free running, and added a small link to the different types.

Free Running is Military?

I think that the Free Running skill would be more realistic if it was a civillan skills. Free running (or parkour) is a hobby/sport that many people do for fun. It's unlikely that the military would find a use for it. Soilders are carrying lots of equipment on themselfs, and are often under fire. You try scaling a wall carring a rifle, ammo, your radio, grenades, your armor, and your helmet... oh, and your getting shot at, too. Comrade 47, 18:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

It's a specialized art, like most Martial Arts, I couldn't see those in Civilian and I couldn't see the average person being good at Free Running.--Karek^maps?! 21:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

You're all wrong. Free running is a myth. -- Rogue  Sergeant  04:01, 8 May 2008 (BST)

A much needed clarification

Parkour (sometimes abbreviated to PK) or l'art du déplacement(English: the art of movement) is an activity with the aim of moving from one point to another as efficiently and quickly as possible, using principally the abilities of the human body.

Free running is a physical art, in which participants (free runners) use the urban and rural areas to perform movements through its structures focused on freedom and beauty. It incorporates efficient movements from parkour, adds aesthetic vaults and other acrobatics, such as tricking and street stunts, creating an athletic and aesthetically pleasing way of moving.

The term free running was coined during the filming of Jump London, as a way to present parkour to the English-speaking world. However, free running and parkour are separate, distinct concepts — a distinction which is often missed due to the aesthetic similarities. Parkour as a discipline comprises efficiency, whilst free running embodies complete freedom of movement — and includes many acrobatic manoeuvres. Although often the two are physically similar, the mindsets of each are vastly different.

Non-rivalry

A campaign was started on May 1, 2007 by Parkour.NET portal to preserve parkour's philosophy against sport competition and rivalry. In the words of Erwan (Hebertiste): "Competition pushes people to fight against others for the satisfaction of a crowd and/or the benefits of a few business people by changing its mindset. Parkour is unique and cannot be a competitive sport if it ignores its altruistic core to self development. If parkour becomes a sport, it will be hard to seriously teach and spread parkour as a non-competitive activity. And a new sport will be spread that may be called parkour, but that won't hold its philosophical essence anymore."

--JustAnotherWebSurfer 01:39, 24 August 2008 (BST)