UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Poodle of doom vs DanceDanceRevolution (2)
Poodle of Doom versus DanceDanceRevolution
Personally, I'm only here on a limited basis. I'm just trying to get by, and do my thing. I made a goof of some sort, and attempted to remedy it. I'd appreciate not being antagonized. I can tolerate some comments made in jest. However, I'd prefer that the provocation stop. I know that this will never be a reality, due to an inability to enforce any sort of mandate on such a thing. I am, however, seeking arbitration, as I doubt it will stop through my asking. I refuse to consent to it, and I am hoping something can be worked out via our mutual aggreement with an arbitrator. -Poodle of DoomT*C 00:41, 24 September 2011 (BST)
I volunteer to arbitrate.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:56, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- I'm not attempting to be difficult, or make this process in any way ineffctive, however I'd ask one simple thing. Could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -Poodle of DoomT*C 01:02, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- I'm curious, why does his IT BEGINS warrant harrasment in your opinion? Because from here it seems pretty harmless. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- It's a reference to the mass deletions that I set up on my way out the door the last time. DDR created a group with the same Acronym as mine at the time, and turned the redirect to the group into a disambugious page. Basically, I asked about this, and if I could still use the page, as there were minor differences between the acronym my group used, and his. Basically, it was EVIL for my group, and E.V.I.L for his. None the less, when I couldn't use it soley for my puposes, I decided to leave for a while and take some time of. In the mean time, I took the (over)500 pages of my group, and placed them up for speedy deletion, which is what they're playing at. That said, there's been some mocking in the past. But I digress, I may or may not of earned the one I just referenced. I'm not exactly remembering how that one came about. None the less, on my way out, DDR was one of a few who I had a problem with. But at this point, I'm getting off topic. -Poodle of DoomT*C 02:26, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- Not really, it's about your guy's personal history then it's relevant.--Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:41, 25 September 2011 (BST)
- It's a reference to the mass deletions that I set up on my way out the door the last time. DDR created a group with the same Acronym as mine at the time, and turned the redirect to the group into a disambugious page. Basically, I asked about this, and if I could still use the page, as there were minor differences between the acronym my group used, and his. Basically, it was EVIL for my group, and E.V.I.L for his. None the less, when I couldn't use it soley for my puposes, I decided to leave for a while and take some time of. In the mean time, I took the (over)500 pages of my group, and placed them up for speedy deletion, which is what they're playing at. That said, there's been some mocking in the past. But I digress, I may or may not of earned the one I just referenced. I'm not exactly remembering how that one came about. None the less, on my way out, DDR was one of a few who I had a problem with. But at this point, I'm getting off topic. -Poodle of DoomT*C 02:26, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- I'm curious, why does his IT BEGINS warrant harrasment in your opinion? Because from here it seems pretty harmless. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- Bearing in mind how few arbitration cases there actually are, I have two with: Corn v Mis and ZL v Bobbobo.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:16, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- With all due respect intended, I'd like to hold off on officially accepting, or denying you for the moment. I'd like to weigh in on other options for the time being. -Poodle of DoomT*C 03:01, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- I think I'm willing to accept you, and I'm not sure if DDR will be coming or not. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:59, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- With all due respect intended, I'd like to hold off on officially accepting, or denying you for the moment. I'd like to weigh in on other options for the time being. -Poodle of DoomT*C 03:01, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- Bearing in mind how few arbitration cases there actually are, I have two with: Corn v Mis and ZL v Bobbobo.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 01:16, 24 September 2011 (BST)
I have an even better idea! How about you get over it? -- Thadeous Oakley Talk 06:56, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- Uncalled for, and unconstructive. Great. -Poodle of DoomT*C 06:58, 24 September 2011 (BST)
I'll do it. --Hey Sweden! 07:06, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- I appreciate the offer, but I respectfully decline. Thanks for the offer. -Poodle of DoomT*C 16:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
As I think that you both are schmucks, I consider myself perfectly neutral for these arbies. -- Spiderzed█ 19:04, 24 September 2011 (BST)
- As much as I'd like to decline, I'd like to ask you the same general question as I have Yonnua. Could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:10, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- Had offered to in some of the relatively recent ones, but wasn't picked. If recent arbitration is key to you, go to Karek, he has arbitrated the most recent Cobra case. -- Spiderzed█ 18:11, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- It's not that it's key, but I would like to pick someone I think I could level with, and who seems fair. Could you link to a couple that you offered to arbitrate in? -Poodle of DoomT*C 18:25, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- RTFArchive -- Spiderzed█ 18:27, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- I respect your position in the cases I have reviewed, however, I wish to respectfully decline. I do appreciate your involvement. -Poodle of DoomT*C 19:54, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- RTFArchive -- Spiderzed█ 18:27, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- It's not that it's key, but I would like to pick someone I think I could level with, and who seems fair. Could you link to a couple that you offered to arbitrate in? -Poodle of DoomT*C 18:25, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- Had offered to in some of the relatively recent ones, but wasn't picked. If recent arbitration is key to you, go to Karek, he has arbitrated the most recent Cobra case. -- Spiderzed█ 18:11, 26 September 2011 (BST)
I've caught myself up on the history of this and, actually, am willing to throw my hat in since it seems like I'm the most neutral either of you will get here. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 01:40, 25 September 2011 (BST)
- Same as above, could I ask that you provide a few examples of times in recent history in which you arbitrated? I'm not looking for anything in particular, and relevance to this request is not necessary. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:10, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- I'll have to say the same as spiderzed because I can't copy and paste with ease on the phone. Suffice it to say though I have plenty of experience with arbitration in addition to being a sysop for a very long time and dealing with disputes there that would have escalated significantly without my involvmement. My prolongued absence during your dispute with DDR and others guarantees I don't have preset notions about you. Ultimately it's up to you though. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:13, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- I'm actually willing to accept you. On a related note, I've also expressed a willingness to accept Yonnua. Should both of you be willing to take this on, would you be willing to possibly work togethor on this, and coarbitrate? -Poodle of DoomT*C 00:28, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- No.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:55, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- My first preference would be to Karek then. If DDR should decline, I will accept Yonnua. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:17, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- No.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:55, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- I'm actually willing to accept you. On a related note, I've also expressed a willingness to accept Yonnua. Should both of you be willing to take this on, would you be willing to possibly work togethor on this, and coarbitrate? -Poodle of DoomT*C 00:28, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- I'll have to say the same as spiderzed because I can't copy and paste with ease on the phone. Suffice it to say though I have plenty of experience with arbitration in addition to being a sysop for a very long time and dealing with disputes there that would have escalated significantly without my involvmement. My prolongued absence during your dispute with DDR and others guarantees I don't have preset notions about you. Ultimately it's up to you though. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:13, 27 September 2011 (BST)
I've made sure DDR knew that this was happening, and he doesn't seem enthused with it, nor does he seem inclined to participate. I'm not exactly sure at this point what could be done, or how to go about doing it. None the less, as I've expressed to DDR, I feel as if this is the best course of action regardless of outcome, and may diffuse some tension going forward. -Poodle of DoomT*C 17:56, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- Do yourself a huge favor and drop the case. Yes, you can continue the case, even without DDR, by starting to accept an Arbiter. But don't. You have talked it out with him on his talk page, now move on. Simples.-- Thadeous Oakley Talk 18:09, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- I don't believe it's that simple acutally. I honestly don't believe that this was anything shy of a jab at me. And if I don't do anything about it, it'll never quit. That said, if I simply select an arbitrator, it's on? -Poodle of DoomT*C 18:13, 26 September 2011 (BST)
I offer. You shall both lose this arbitration as I will use it as an excuse to amuse myself (and quite possibly only myself). It will not be something enjoyable for either party. But it will be fair. 22:42, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- Like what? -Poodle of DoomT*C 23:23, 26 September 2011 (BST)
- It won't be like what. It'll be exactly what. 05:01, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- I simply decline. -Poodle of DoomT*C 05:05, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- It would need to be simple. 05:10, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- you guys really are stupid cunts.--User:Sexualharrison13:38, 28 September 2011 (bst)
- It would need to be simple. 05:10, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- I simply decline. -Poodle of DoomT*C 05:05, 27 September 2011 (BST)
- It won't be like what. It'll be exactly what. 05:01, 27 September 2011 (BST)
Mis was my only choice but Spoodle declined him. Since Karek is a jaded biased subbie bellend I'll go with Poodle's second choice Yonnua. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 04:45, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- Good enough for me. -Poodle of DoomT*C 04:52, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- Sure. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 19:00, 28 September 2011 (BST)
- Don't worry, Karek. Your time shall come.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 19:21, 28 September 2011 (BST)
Opening Statements
Poodle and DDR can each feel free to make a brief statement here summarising their case and what they want out of this arbitration. But keep it brief.--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 09:56, 28 September 2011 (BST)
DanceDanceRevolution
Might as well just lay down my opinion quickly.
OK, well, Poodle is an idiot and takes things too seriously.
That is all. -- ϑanceϑanceℜevolution 02:09, 29 September 2011 (BST)
Poodle of Doom
No ones going to look at the fact the DDR's comments have nothing to do with any sort of Administrative duties, or that they were a direct reference to things that have happened from years gone by. No one will sense any form of hostility, or the fact that there's a certain line that's been crossed. No one will admit that this is a ploy to run people off the wiki. In fact, I doubt that this will go any farther than the opening statements, so I'm just going to sum everything up by saying a single word. Bitchcakes. -Poodle of DoomT*C 17:39, 29 September 2011 (BST)
Supplementary Evidence
This case is obviously a lot more important than we at first thought. From Poodles opening statement I can see that this goes to the heart of the UDwiki community, and more specifically, the bias and corruption which so many before have complained about. The wiki Cabal which has been in place since 2005 must be dealt with, and unless it is done so now, I feel that there might not be any way to fix what is now a dying community. If the community dies, the game dies, so it has fallen now to us, today, to deal with the infestation that has struck to the heart of Urbandead. In this case, we need to set out the future of the community. As this case revolves around such an enormous problem, I see it as a given that other members of the community will be needed to give input. Hence, I shall call upon members of the community one by one to give evidence in the form of short statements on both this specific matter and on the stench of UDwiki corruption in general.
The first person I call to the stand is none other than a psyop lackey who has long perverted the course of justice to further a dark agenda of his own. But this agenda itself is a dark form of justice... The only thing certain about this crook is that he is most, most dark... I call to the stand, the honourable Judge Karke!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 21:16, 29 September 2011 (BST)
Karek's Statement
DDR is a meany and made hugnat cry, burn the witch? --Karekmaps 2.0?! 23:23, 29 September 2011 (BST)
In light of the statement made by Karek, I feel it is necessary to further explore the Hagnat crying incident, to establish a more solid perception of character. In the meantime, I shall also open a new line of investigation. The inquisition brigade calls Misanthropy to the stand!--Yonnua Koponen Talk ! Contribs 00:08, 30 September 2011 (BST)
Hagnat's statement
i cannot say anything bad against DDR... or i get the hose again ;_; --hagnat 02:02, 30 September 2011 (BST)
Misanthropy's statement
- BEWARE.
- I LIVE
- I HUNGER