Talk:Jerden Rules Crowbank

Jerden's comments

Jerden would like to say he's touched by the comments on this page, and I really think this improves JRC and our wiki pages. I love the way you've brought your own arguments here! I think people have really got the idea of JRC - you love it or you hate it. Mostly friendly hate really. I aim to make Urban Dead a more fun place - let's face it, you all love a villain don't you! Someone who paints a big target on everyone, including himself. I don't plan on leaving or giving up Crowbank, and neither do my enemies. TSI, see the enemies page, that's pretty much all I have to say, anyone who likes me - thanks - PKers are the underdog, hated by all except possibly each other - alliances always welcomed by JRC. Jerden 18:27 29 October 2012 (BSD)

Furst! (AKA Walls of text and mostly other groups' arguments, complements and boasts)

Hi Jerden. Y'know, I've read your barely literate group page (Corrected now, sorry, but spelling's not my strong point, In future I'll try to spell check it. --Jerden 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)) and I have to say, it's quite endearing. Either you really are just totally inept, from the feeble coat of arms with its awful Google Latin, to the mish-mash of rules and stream-of-consciousness ramblings, or the page is the work of a truly twisted genius. I'm going with the first theory. (I'm going with both! --Jerden 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC))

Anyway, my friends and I couldn't help but notice your ill-advised challenge to TSI. Let's just say: it's on. It'll be a bit like fighting a one-armed man, ripping his arm off, then beating him to death with it, (Fun Right! --Jerden 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC)) but hey - it was your shout. May the best group win. Hint: it's not you.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 20:13, 13 October 2012 (BST)

Jerden is everything right about Urban Dead. --Ross Less Ness ^{Enter Stranger...} 20:16, 13 October 2012 (BST) (Hell yeah! --Jerden 19:25, 29 October 2012 (UTC))

In the absence of Rufus Vanpants, Imma gonna agree with you there.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 17:39, 14 October 2012 (BST)

Watch yourself Jerden. You may think "hey a suburb away should be safe," but you would be wrong. TSI just happens to have a zombie group of many same members, that just happens to be one suburb away, that just happens to eat people who kills their alts. It's totally not zerging or multi-abuse, just coincident. This, of course, ignoring their "former" member who is zerge listed. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 23:03, 16 October 2012 (BST)

Allow me to provide A Brief History for the Apparently Butthurt (you know, Kirsty, you could always contact TSI or CTD directly if you have a problem, instead of whispering in Jerkoff's ear).

A bunch of us from another internet forum started a load of zombie and survivor characters and the two main groups that formed as a result unfortunately ended up inhabiting the same corner of Malton - long before any of us knew of the Zerg Liste and its 10-blocks rule (which Kevan's own rules don't insist upon, hence we didn't see the problem at the time) - but the roots of TSI in Vinetown, and the Club in Gulsonside, are now far too deep for us to consider moving either group. It would be like the RRF leaving Ridleybank, or Jerden not being an annoying little twerp - unthinkable.

We do try to keep our alts 10 blocks apart but mistakes have been made on occasion and a rotter and one of Brian XIII's nuncios have strayed within roaring bellow distance, which is how one former cardinal was Zerg Listed. Nonetheless, as per Kevan's rules, the two groups do have completely different aims, being pro-survivor/anti-moron (TSI) and pro-zombie dancing (CTD). Naturally, if a breather gets into Clubber (or other zombie group) territory, they run the risk of being eaten (and mocked in fluent Zamgarh into the bargain, and potentially also poked with bananas). It is a zombie apocalypse game after all. Best not to cry when it happens to you.

The former member is just that - a former member. As he's still Zerg Listed, feel free to act as you see fit. No doubt you will also help us rid Vinetown and Pegton of prudence's numerous anti-TSI imposter alts, and blair's griefing rotters, as there are genuine cheat-no-matter-what laugh-in-the-face-of-fair-play zergers around that you might like to get your panties properly knotted over.

Finally, as Jerden was just offed by a TSI member in Crowbank, please let me know if you have a problem with that as well. Meanwhile: TSI 1 - Jerden 0.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 18:53, 17 October 2012 (BST)

Kirsty, you forgot to mention the part about how TSI are completely inept at PKer hunting, despite claims to the contrary on their group page. If I were a gamblin' man, I'd put my money on Jerden for most personal kills. ~ _{01:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)}

(Ah, it's turning into a Butthurt Reunion Meeting! How nice for you.) CAR, Cobra, Flowers of Decay etc etc might beg to differ about TSI... if they're being honest. But since when do PKers admit they're useless?--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 04:05, 18 October 2012 (BST)

I'll give credit on the PK hunting, TSI did well as did CtD. When I was shooting TSI, both groups got a few kills on me. As for my original comment, Mallrat: why did you feel the need to repeat what I said without the sarcasm but with some extra explanation? I said you got two groups right next to each other, and they kill the same people (if said people are PKers); you said the exact same thing minus the "just happen to" part. I will acknowledge in that part you did mention the RRF, who are a zombie group that kills any breathers. You did miss the difference that they don't have a survivor group one suburb away. As for CtD moving being equivalent to RRF moving, that is just stupid. RRF has Ridleybank in their name. There are clubs all over Malton, there is nothing about CtD that wouldn't make sense if you moved. You do explain: that now your roots are too deep where you are. I'm glad I've been able to educate you on this issue, but I would have expected you already knew this when your member was zerge listed if not a few years before. It's simply a matter that you like being able to keep your alts close, so they can help each other. Not zerg, but multi-abuse. Your attempts to claim that as anything but are ridiculous and transparent. Most groups that kick out a member who zergs, although if I recall correctly your zerger just left of his own accord, hunt said member if they try to hang around. Because it makes everyone in the group look like cheaters when you are still associating with that member. Then you even justify that zerging as apparently not "genuine cheat-no-matter-what laugh-in-the-face-of-fair-play zergers," which I guess makes it better? Although your zerger had no issue shooting his killer with his other alt almost immediately after dying. I'll be honest, the real surprise to your response was that it didn't end with "bhalls to whalls." -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 22:46, 18 October 2012 (BST)

Hey Kirsty, don't be unfair. Clubbed to Death IS a part of Gulsonside. TSI, on the other hand, could go anywhere. No seriously, Mallrat, move TSI. Try Starlingtown. Or Lerwill Heights. Because the rest of what Kirsty said is true.

That being said, last time the PBTB attacked you guys, it was good fun. Might have to come back someday. --CarelessWill 02:14, 19 October 2012 (BST)

You guys must have caught TSI at a good time, or FOD caught them at a bad time. Because seriously, we went looking for a good fight and instead found...minimal resistence. We were there for about a month and other than a few deaths by McManix here, it was utterly unremarkable. ~ _{02:47, 19 October 2012 (UTC)}

They were good at keeping us dead. Not particularly at finding and killing us, but denying us the opportunity to revive? Oh yes. I give them full marks for that. Quite frustrating, actually, until our reviver woke up and came over. --CarelessWill 03:21, 19 October 2012 (BST)

You are joking aren't you Vapor? FOD were one of the biggest disappointments so far - as bad or worse than the Thugs of Malton (defunct) or Sisters of Death (probably defunct again after their brief revival). You guys didn't even heal up after we killed you, so we would just find you in the nearest dark building, cowering with your feeble 30HPs, and pick you off repeatedly. Seriously, you took a beating. Even perennial pre-pubescents CAR and PHOBIA were more effective.

Kirsty, the guy who was Zerg Listed didn't need to be kicked out - he left. We urged him to clear his name but he refused. He's still a friend beyond the game but he's not with TSI. If anything, the proximity of CTD and TSI is a pain in the butt, because if Jerden (say) wants to hide in Gulsonside, he knows TSI won't follow him if they have zombies nearby (Mick McManix never goes south of the Vinetown border, for example). Of course, that player is taking a risk because, y'know, there are zombies in the area instead. BTW, there are only about 4 TSI members still active, whereas there are 10 active Clubbers, so being eaten by CTD =/= being attacked by a TSI player in every case.

If anyone doesn't think TSI has deep roots in Vinetown and Pegton, you don't know the history. We've been in the area around Gelasius Hospital for years - ask MERCY, or Ross. It's home (in fact, we may have got there before CTD settled on Blesley as its base - and the Club's near-continuous occupation of that particular mall for several years is pretty much its raison d'etre by now.)--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 04:28, 19 October 2012 (BST)

Meh, I just checked the scalps and it looks more like you guys were asleep while we trounced the rest of the burb. We were in Vinetown between July 4th and August 3rd and though we claimed 142 scalps that month, less than a dozen were TSI. Everything else was MDK or anyone sleeping in the mall or that damn cinema. Perhaps we'll come back when you're ready for us. I would love to pay an homage to High Lord and Supreme Ruler of Crowbank, Jerden. ~ _{05:45, 19 October 2012 (UTC)}

We're always ready to escort blowhards like FOD back to the gutter, just try to make it worth your bus fare next time round. Killing sheep in a mall is hardly a challenge. Also, how many times did you get scalped? PKers tend not to keep very accurate accounts of their own 'expenses'. The number of times we plucked your flowers, it was getting a bit silly by the end. :D--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 09:12, 19 October 2012 (BST)

Update: just totted up the scores for your visit to the Inquisition's home turf and it was TSI 26, FOD 12.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 11:17, 19 October 2012 (BST)

I just did the same and came to a vastly different number. It looked like only Maldourus and yourself were the only ones trying. Unless you've got members not wearing TSI tags or you're claiming ally kills, its more like 12 to 12. Still though we were there for a month and kept that mall and that cinema consistantly full of dead guys and gals. I just didn't see much effort on TSI's part to stop us. Maybe next time it will be different. ~ _{16:23, 19 October 2012 (UTC)}

I included all the kills by me and my 3 buddies - that does include kills by one of the Michael Jacksons, but not by allies like El Frito or any of the MERCYites - otherwise the total would be much higher. Like I said, culling sheep in the mall is easy. Whenever you encountered us, you took a beating - even though you had a head start - indeed, for most of the 5 weeks you came to visit, half to two-thirds of your active FODs were in the gutter. Note also that as well as you guys, we were operating against the usual blair/prudence zerg alts, The Dead and a few other malcontents. Not bad for 3 or 4 crusty cardinals and a King of Pop impersonator.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 20:06, 19 October 2012 (BST)

I would point out there were more FoD to shoot than TSI, per your own admission. Basically you had 4 TSI active, who never would log in and not find a FoD. Whereas, FoD had to hunt around for the few TSI left. Numbers are hardly the end-all to who won. I'm not sure the number of FoD at that time, but assuming equal deaths of all members FoD killed every single TSI 3 times. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 23:12, 19 October 2012 (BST)

"Numbers are hardly the end-all to who won"? It was Vapor who said "we claimed 142 scalps that month", admitting that most of them were "sleeping in the mall" and "less than a dozen were TSI", and from those numbers somehow concluding that "we'll come back when you're ready for us". Seems like we were pretty ready for them at the time, considering that a handful of us claimed 26 FOD scalps, even as we were combating numerous other noisy neighbours. As I said, for much of their visit the majority of the Flowers were plucked and lying in gutters. They even whined because we killed Skye Blu as soon as she put on her Flower tags, because "she doesn't even have a bounty yet"! PKers whingeing about being PKed? Oh dear!

Basically, the Flowers are 1) crap at hiding (although they got better at running) 2) useless at healing themselves and 3) not very efficient at reviving each other, although I concede they are 4) good at shooting fish in a barrel/sheep in a mall.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 05:15, 20 October 2012 (BST)

Eh, I honestly didn't realize you were just four guys. Probably explains why you barely appeared on our radar. Anyway, I doubt we'll make the effort to revisit. You keep holding on to that claim about forcing PKers from Vinetown. Pfft. ~ _{05:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)}

Rollmat, our job is to rack up kill tallies, anywhere and anytime we can get them. Your job is to flap your jaws aimlessly. I think we both succeeded at our jobs, though you probably succeeded more.

In all seriousness, and we must be serious here because virtual murder text games are deadly serious business, we fought the whole burb and won. You took down a few small beans then threw a few potshots at us in a feeble attempt to surpass our sheer dominance over the whole fucking burb. I hope you liked your taste of defeat, because you're gonna get seconds soon. ;)</SERIOUS BUSINESS>--RadicalWhig 05:57, 20 October 2012 (BST)

Wow. Jerden you Rule! A ZOMBIE ANT 05:47, 20 October 2012 (BST)

Jerden > TSI. Mallrat just feels threatened :D--RadicalWhig 05:57, 20 October 2012 (BST)

Can't help thinking I've touched a nerve, seeing as so many whiny PKers are joining the mutual support group here. But if you really think landing 12 kills on us while taking 26 in return from 4 players means we weren't ready for you, or was a "taste of defeat" for us, or that you "fought the whole burb and won" (talk about taking games seriously!), do please continue. We laughed at your uselessness then, and will do so again. PKers come and go (and in the case of the Thugs, the CAR, Sisters of Death, they fold), but TSI, MERCY et al continue to work our Vinetown parish.

Whig, seeing as you were a repeated victim of TSI and Co., I can only assume you are among the "small beans" you mention. FWIW, the best PKer among you is JR, and the hardest to find was Jethro. A tip of the mitre to them.

PS Both Jerden and Leiter are dead, so who will revive Jerden now? I hope they have a better revival and healthcare plan than the Flowers did! Perhaps JRC and FOD could join forces - you're on a similar level.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 13:36, 20 October 2012 (BST)

It seems to me that the only nerve struck has been yours, as evident by the typical Mallrat brand of impotnet rage filled text walls. If you'd been paying attention, I was trying to remain civil but I'm just about all out of fucks at this point. I'm willing to concede that perhaps you killed more than just the dozen or so that were reported to our revenge list. We had some new folks joining up around that time and even some random guy wearing our group tag. I personally wasn't impressed, but hey what do I know. I'm only the guy leading the charge against chest thumping self-proclaimed "pro" survivors like yourself. ~ _{16:32, 20 October 2012 (UTC)}

Mi-aow! Goodnight, sweetheart... You can thump my chest anytime!--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 20:56, 20 October 2012 (BST)

If you say so.--RadicalWhig 21:14, 20 October 2012 (BST)

Wha? My nerves aren't touched as of yet. I just think Jerden's group name, and page, is boss. You go Jerden! A ZOMBIE ANT 05:12, 23 October 2012 (BST)

HAH! I am very much alive, thank you very much!--Leiter 10:53, 21 October 2012 (BST)

Jerden you rule! I'll give you a revive! A ZOMBIE ANT 05:14, 23 October 2012 (BST)

Jerden would like to point out he has no revivification plan. Do people honestly not realize how easy it is for a non rotter to get a revive without trying? Break into a building and someone will spend 10AP to get rid of you. (And I will not attack them afterwards, so lucky them!) That's why I'm Dual Natured. I love being a zombie, I love being human. Anyway, alliances are always welcome if you want to ensure we don't kill you, revive me if you see me please. I have places to go and people to kill. Jerden 5:22, 29 October 2012 (BST)

Given the comments on multi-abuse above, I just want to note for the record the curious fact that my Kilt Store alt Thurston Mallrat was PKed yesterday near Hildebrand Mall, by one of Vapor's alts, James Slimm - no comment made regarding motive, completely out of the blue, the two characters have never interacted before... Coincidence? :) --Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 15:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

TSI vs JRC (Vinetown Wanderers vs Crowbank F.C.)

I make the latest score TSI 2 - JRC 0, seeing as the Monk and nomatr1 have both beaten your keeper Jerden. Whoever killed Leiter wasn't one of ours, more's the pity! Mick is anxious to get on the scoresheet for his club, seeing as he put on his red shooting slippers (Vatican F50 VatiZeros) specially.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 19:44, 21 October 2012 (BST)

Ah yes, very unfortunate business that. Roopzs from Zombie Squad decided to come knocking on my house (BSPD) :/ Aw well, will be up and running soon again I think. --Leiter 20:21, 21 October 2012 (BST)

TSI 3 - JRC 0: nomatr1 to the top-left corner, leaving Jerden sprawling.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 04:27, 23 October 2012 (BST)

Gooollaaaaaaazzzzooooo! It's a sweet one-two between nomatr1 and Mick. Nomatr1 sets up the shot for Mick by putting on the lights in Rillie Cinema, and Mick makes no mistake from point-blank range, blasting not so much past Jerden as through him. TSI 4 - JRC 0. Can JRC get on the scoresheet? Or will TSI maintain a clean sheet in defence?--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 10:21, 27 October 2012 (BST)

Why waste the ammo? I'll kill you if convenient, don't you worry. Jerden 17:24, 29 October 2012 (BST)

Right, scoresheet updated to TSI 4 - JRC 1. Nomatr1 has left human life. For a while... --Leiter 18:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Quickly back on his feet, nomatr1 promptly restores the TSI advantage with a storming counter-attack. TSI 5, JRC 1.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 05:13, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Mick himself finally gets his shooting boots, er, red slippers on, and puts one of his own past Leiter. TSI 6, JRC 1. Jerden's apparently still dead and on the sidelines of this enthralling (if not particularly close) contest.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 10:40, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

As JRC have fled the field of play, the referee blows the whistle and calls it a day for the Crowbank leg of the contest. Final score: TSI 6, JRC 1. (Cue theme tune to Match of the Day.) --Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 14:56, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Bah! I was in Crowbank yesterday, we're a bit preoccupied in a major event and the conflict is far from over. As soon as I'm done with November I'm coming for you guys again.--Leiter 15:24, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Yaaaaawwwwwn. We've had our half-time oranges, and have got our boots laced ready to give you another arse-kicking. :) --Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 17:54, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Leiter gets red-carded... TSI 7, JRC 1.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 13:24, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Aaaand todays winner is Nomatr1, taking the score to a TSI 7, JRC 2 --Leiter 01:58, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Good on you Leiter, as the Sith of November Event is nearly over I'll be joining you soon. I hope to rack up my kill tally against TSI, as I've not really made much contribution yet. --Jerden 19:55, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Leiter makes another howler, this time fumbling a speculatively kicked pumpkin into the back of his net... and somehow also winding up dead as a result. TSI 8, JRC 2.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 15:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Gosh, what the hell did you guys do before you had us to harrass? Honest question. Do you think this'll ever get boring? --Jerden 16:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Let's see, our Clubbed to Death zombies have held the same mall continuously for about three-and-a-half years. So you've got a while to go before we lose interest. Besides, what happened to "racking up your kill tally" against us? :D --Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 19:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

You missed my point Mallrat. I was using a rhetorical question to suggest that this feud is so fun we're probably never going to give up. Anyway, other stuff gets in the way, like killing another enemy, finding ammo, dying at the hands of a Knight and so on. About the kill tally... I said "I hope" not "I will within days". On the subject of Clubbed to Death... Threatening to use them against JRC was a little pathetic really. It suggests that you can't beat us without resorting to borderline cheating. It didn't scare me, it just made me think that I'd really annoyed you guys so I was doing somthing right. You're a good enough group, you don't need to do that Mallrat, so don't. And you still haven't answered my question on what you did before PKing us. --Jerden 09:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Who said anything about using Clubbers against you? 8:2 suggests no cheating is required. Seriously, grow up.

Before JRC, TSI did what we have always done: kept Vinetown and Pegton safe(ish) from zombies, PKers and gobshites. Since JRC, the same: only with new gobshites.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 12:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought that one of you had threatened me with that that but it was just someone trying to warn me. I wonder why... Quoting from earlier:

"Watch yourself Jerden. You may think "hey a suburb away should be safe," but you would be wrong. TSI just happens to have a zombie group of many same members, that just happens to be one suburb away, that just happens to eat people who kills their alts. It's totally not zerging or multi-abuse, just coincident. This, of course, ignoring their "former" member who is zerge listed. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 23:03, 16 October 2012 (BST)"

Anyway, my mistake. It's easy to get lost in the Great Wall of Text you started, and so I thought that that was a member of TSI typing that, as it does sort of read like that. Fine, I'll admit it - you're a worthy adversary and I take back the remark against your group. You have taught me much about the art of PKing, more specifically by teaching me how to avoid my enemies. As you will no doubt point out later, I need more practise, so I guess we'll continue the lessons. ;) Anyway, is the 8:2 the membership or the current score? Because team wise it's more like three of you doing the actual violence, mostly while me and Leiter where still new to the whole thing. Not much to be proud of, on both sides really. --Jerden 16:01, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

revives

If you need a revive go to a spot in Crowbank and email me via my user page. I have a guy that can help! A ZOMBIE ANT 15:02, 27 October 2012 (BST)

I'll be fine, just revive me if you see me. But I prefer getting revives from fools who don't know me yet. It's impossible for there to not be anyone who'll revive me. Jerden 17:24, 29 October 2012 (BST)

Leiter...

... has dropped his JRC tags. Does that mean he's left the 'group'?--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 20:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't know. He hasn't said anything. Why inverted commas around 'group'? Are you saying something negative about JRC?

What, me? Surely not! :D Just hinting that you appear to be the only member, unless Anja has defected from her own one-man (or one-woman) band to join JRC.--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 19:43, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

No, she was concidering it but I figured an alliance would be better. Anyway, every group has to start somewhere, and JRC starts with me. Again.

I'm all here, just wanted to see if removing the tag would make any difference in randoms shooting me at sight. It did. But now that experiment is over :) --Leiter 22:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Good to know. I was just on the verge of broadcasting a ceasefire message but there's been a change of plan. :)--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 03:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Good to know Leiter! Welcome back! --Jerden 18:20, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Seems a bit unleaderlike to leave Crowbank and desert your dead lieutenant, currently begging for a revive while you swan around with some 'real' PKers. If you've gone to Stanbury Village I may have to send Thurston Mallrat on tour so that Mick can come over and say hello to you over there. :)--Mallrat ^{TSI TKS CTD} 05:25, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Leiter was alive and well when I last saw him. Anyway, if the queen gets to travel the world, I don't see why I can't make exciting new enemies a few suburbs away. It's not like Crowbank will collapse without me! It's not like I actually run the place! --Jerden 17:02, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Hail Jerden

EXECUTE ORDER 66

Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen.

~ _{06:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)}

Organization XIII

would like to count JRC as one of our allies. We recognize that Jerden does truly rule Crowbank and only the disillusioned fail to grasp this. We too are not locked into a single play style and appreciate like-minded groups. Let us know your thoughts on this alliance either: here, our talk page, or our forum. Thanks, -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 04:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. With the Sith of November in full swing, I figure there is plenty happening. Once it has ended, we'll see what we can do about getting Crowbank in-line. -- _{Org XIII} ^Alts 14:11, 12 November 2012 (UTC)