Talk:The Day Crew

Archived TDC member chart

F1 Group	15secwrx, 22stars, HobieKopek, Lucian Dauntes, LYHTSPD, mr jackalope, Shemoves, Speelnik, tritech, twardnw, xDarkKenyx
Freerunners	Colin Burns, h dtech, Tonto Horowitz, Terry S
Other	Arkenoid, Brucknerian2, Flowderp, Gocasen, Jack Smashing, JJsevol, Ken Oka, mugwump69, Thorvaldus, Warez Joe, Yester

I archived this here because i'm going to remove it from the main page but I dont want to lose it just incase Shemoves still wants it. --Terry S 01:49, 6 May 2008 (BST)

Banned on the forums?

That is pretty lame guys, all I did was tell Shemoves the truth and I was banned. I lost all hope with you guys! --Rogue Sergeant 06:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

You attacked several members, unprevoked, and proclaimed before hand that you were going to go traitor. Sounds like a pretty cut 'n dry situation... lol --Terry S 18:28, 10 April 2008 (BST)

You attacked me and HK and you expect us to let you keep reading where we're going and our safehouse locations? You also declared it was either be with us or start PKing...why the heck do we want you on the forums? -mr jackalope

~It was much more than that, Rogue Seargent. What you have said above is a lie, and I see through your attempt to redirect fault onto us. You made unprovoked attacks on fellow TDC members. When I heard of the attacks, I sent a PM to you stating "There have been multiple reports of you PKing, what is going on?" Your response was "I don't know you tell me. I need xp..." Furthermore, following the attacks, I let you decide to return to TDC with stiff consequnces for your actions or leave. You chose to leave. It would have been irresponsible and a significant security risk to allow you to continue to have access to the forum. The short of it is that you brought it on yourself. -Shemoves

Pker Group?

Caan anybody to explian why HobieKpek, listed above as a member of this group, PKed Xoof, who is a well respected bounty hunter with no record for PKing, GKing, or anything EXCEPT bounty hunting? Does your group endorse PKing? Brainrot is not sufficient reason otherwise (sorry if he's jealous that I'm level 42); HobieKopek will be reported on the Rouges Gallery and assigned a bounty.  Swiers 04:27, 13 May 2008 (BST)

HobieKopek IS NOT a PK'er. He is a well respected and a founding member of this group. In fact, he's about as far away from a PK'er as you can get. I'm going to petition to remove him from the Rogues Gallery immediately. I'm also making HK aware of this incident so that he can come on here and give his version of the events. --Terry S 01:56, 15 May 2008 (BST)

You can ask, but your request will be rejected. The RG (and Rezzenz) are very particular about reasons for PKing, and "he had brain rot" is NOT one they accept, and for good reasons (as I explain below).  Swiers 05:45, 15 May 2008 (BST)

The group he is in endorses PKing, as advertised on their wiki page. HK believed he was a threat to our safehouse. --Mr Jackalope

If he'd actually read that page, he'd also have realized brainROT RUM ☣

members only ever killed level 41 survivors who have excessive amounts of XP.  I don;t know about others in the safehouse, but clearly HK was in no danger on that front.  And truth told, the group has moved away from PKing almost entirely, and probably does 50x as much reviving and bounty hunting- its a shame I haven't updated it better.  But, if that was the reason, why did he not say so before killing me (or below in his reply) rather than saying it was simply because I have brain rot?   Swiers 05:52, 15 May 2008 (BST)

RS - You attacked me and killed badstainless a day or two later. I may still have a screen cap of your attacking me, though I'm CERTAIN I have a copy/pasted version of it. Since you attacked me and we exchanged words in our chat log (which is archived and contains your admitting your unprovoked attacks) I haven't so much as seen you in Malton, much less done a thing towards you. --Unsigned

Xoof - My apologies. I was not acting on orders or on any TDC policy. In my defense however, I would do it again in a heartbeat if I saw ANYONE with brain rot sitting in my marked safehouse. I do recall mentioning that brain rot was not welcome indoors but, again, that is neither TDC policy nor was it based on any orders. TDC neither promotes nor encourages PKing, however I will personally protect any TDC safehouse at the cost of my own safety and personal reputation if need be. Would probably be good if I signed this too. --HobieKopek

If you don't want friendly, breathing, barricade building rotters inside your safehouse, you shouldn't locate your safe house so close to a Rotter's Relief rot revive clinic. I'd also like to ask why you think you make yourself safer by killing rotters who get revived. Just what threat do you think they pose? Are they "zombie spies"? if so, they are really bad ones; that would be like Iraq sending a spy to America who has a thick black beard and talks with a serious middle eastern accent. Are they PKers? Maybe, but again, they are really ineffective in that role. In fact, the ONLY role a revived rotter can play for any length of time is that of a dedicated survivor who works his ass off to keep any area he is in as safe as possible for all survivors; otherwise, he ends up dead, and has an exponentially harder time getting revived the more dangerous the area is to normal survivors.
Really, if you want to cause mayhem as a survivor, somebody who does NOT have brain rot (and hence "looks normal" and can easily get revived) is the obvious choice. Most level 42 survivors are simply playing the game in "hard mode" and as such, don't benefit by making things hard for other survivors. In point of fact, NORMAL SURVIVORS are much more likely to be a threat than revived rotters!
So, just who were you protecting, from what, by killing Xoof?
   Swiers 05:36, 15 May 2008 (BST)
ps- Rotters Relief had me back on my feet inside 12 hours. Really, if you don't want breathing rotters around, you should move. That, our you'll need to PK a LOT more of them. In which case, brainROT RUM ☣

will be forced to declare war, even with the handicap we face.

~Shemoves here. Here is a direct and complete quote from the secure section of our forum. It is a post from me to HK regarding this: "HK, we will stand by your side. It is possible that you made a mistake in attacking Xoof, but nonetheless, it is my goal to get through this diplomatically. None of us are perfect, and our group will only become stronger as we work through this stuff as a team."

At the time of the attack, HK was acting in defense of other TDC members. Based on what was read in Xoof's group's page, it was determined that he posed a strong threat. The fact the he had brain rot further underlined the suspicion that he sympathized against humans.

I understand what is being said about a brain-rotted human being less of a threat, but it could really go both ways. Perhaps this is inexperience or naivity, but a player who chooses brain rot, to me, intends to stay a zombie. If they were combat revived during a siege on an NT, I could see how, out of malice, they would remain a human and PK. Not as a spy, but as one who is anti-human. The combination of rotter + advertised PKer group pointed to Xoof being a likely threat. Looking back on it, and seeing more of the story, it is likely that HK acted hastily. Nonetheless, I commend him in his desire to protect us. HK has apologized, and I know he is sincere.

I think the best way to look at this is an event that both groups can learn from. On our part, we can learn to act slower, and take the time to look at more of a given pictures harder-to-see details. On your part, I think the lesson to be learned is that it is not reasonable to play in a manner that is atypical and expect all others to agree with and/or understand it. Please feel free to agree or disagree. It seems that we, in the grand scheme of things, are on the same team, so let's try to work this out together for the mutual benefit of both of our groups. --Shemoves

Sounds good to me. I'm glad you took the time to reply, and as such am not inclined to seek personal vengence in this case, or to provoke any conflict between the two groups. Pleas do be aware that the area has a LOT of (survivor friendly) revived rotters running around (mostly within a few blocks of the Moseley Building) and that even when "reformed", level 42 survivor characters often retain some "zombie" characteristics in their description / group.
As for "angry rotters", it is very, very rare that you come across a combat revived rotter who is idled out; they don't generally "go to sleep" without dying first. After all, full time zombies tend (by definition) NOT to have guns, so do more damage as a zombie; they only view revives as a means to parachute. Those that do use guns (Gore Corps members and other death cult's members) and stay alive for more than 50 AP at a stretch NEVER have brain rot, practically without exception- another good example of how pink brains are MORE of a threat than rotters.
BTW, you've inspired me to overhaul the page a bit. I'm honestly not sure how much the (very few) other members of brainROT RUM ☣

are still into PKing, but the few I see regularly are actually doing stuff like running around with The Big Prick.   Swiers 07:52, 15 May 2008 (BST)

~No problem, we are all in this together. Thanks for explaining the other side of the rotter debate...I was not even aware of it. We will definitely have to keep that in mind from now on. --Shemoves

Quite a novel we have going here. Everyone, this was a misunderstanding and poor choice on my part. While I still have a (I believe) healthy fear of rotters in our safehouses, I acted too quickly and without consulting Shemoves. So, again, Xoof, you have my apologies. As for the rest of the guys in your clan, a separate apology. I'll be tipping my hat to you should I come across you in play. --HobieKopek

I'm just coming in here and cleaning up the dialog a bit. Looks good now. --Terry S 01:58, 16 May 2008 (BST)

The Great Radio Group Massacre

	Group Active? Request.
	In order to maintain the wiki as an up to date source of information groups are occasionally removed from the Radio pages when they are no longer active. Is this group still active? If so simply confirm here by writing something below. If not it's frequency will be removed from Radio pages in 14 days.

Hi there, folks. I know this may seem a rather strange request, but it's for all groups, regardless of size, to help keep the wiki up to date. --Jen 01:44, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

	Group Inactive?
	No reply has been received as to whether this group is still active. The 14 days have passed and as such the groups frequency has been removed from radio listings. If the group is again active please feel free to revert these changes

-- Linkthewindow  Talk  04:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Inactive?

Hey, just checking to see if you guys are still active. If so, I might be swinging by soon to see what the group's like.