User talk:Zaknrfama

On the Recruitment page, I was about to edit your entry because I first misread what's behind it... "(Non-senseless PKing group.)" read as "(Nonsense PKing group.)" to my mind, and I was going to disagree and try and figure out who'd gone and fucked with your recruitement statement... only to see I'd misread it. Oops! Embarrassing.

Still, you might want to consider rewriting that bit so people don't stumble across it like I did. -pinkgothic 13:57, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Hahaha, good idea. Thanks for planning to stand up for me. XD Zaknrfama 16:31, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)

I did it for you (but only just read this page). Hope you don't mind. --Daxx 21:43, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Yeah, I noticed it was already done when I went to check it. Thanks. XD Zaknrfama 4 Jan 2006

City Pages

Just a heads up, but messing with the 'Suburb' or other information-based pages isn't that great of an idea. You can get temp banned for adding stuff like that by mods who regularly check those areas, even if its "in context" with your groups goals. Much like the Brahaha and other zombie comments/group bragging does. Now, If you want to add something about the SUSPICION of the true nature of the revive points in Yagoton, that meets the standards fine and is a valid fact. But saying the points are complete fakes streches it into the terms of Vandalism, and no one wants that. I added a section on the main Yagoton page that I think gives a better and unbiased view of what your group originally tried to post. --MorthBabid 07:01, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)

...I never said that any point was fake. o_O --Zaknrfama 16:41, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)

And I don't remember posting anywhere on the suburb page talking about The Neon Knights. I could be wrong, though. ._. --Zaknrfama 16:42, 7 Jan 2006 (GMT)

• I was refering to this, and explaining why I edited it and the front page for Yagoton (which someone else then added to). Not sure if that who posted that original post is in your crew or not, but pass it on none the less admist your cells. --MorthBabid 02:07, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)

• He definitely isn't part of my group. XD I found that pretty bad myself, but yeah, I don't really mind the changes you've made so as long as it's clear that I'm not an evil person I'm happy. --Zaknrfama 04:42, 8 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Oprah

If you'd take a moment to do a search for the guy you would see he has been reported and has vandalized our wiki too with similar insults. He's done it to the wiki of just about everyone in Yagoton and seems to be attempting to get people to attack us. The Yellow Dart 01:39, 11 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Oh, wow. Sorry to blame you guys, then. Next time I see Oprah I will kill him, then. Also, I'm told that he has an alt named Octo 1, so if you see him.. You know who he is. --Zaknrfama 21:11, 13 Feb 2006 (GMT)

• • • There is a player named Octi 1 who is a member of BME and I can assure you he is NOT Oprah. Oprah is a member of ALF (I think) and has PKed many people in Yagoton. --Legend X

No rest for the wicked

You have been terminated for well-known reasons. Several of us have decided that as a serial killer you do not deserve protection of any kind nor for any reason.

Say "Hello" to a new world, one where you are the hunted and not the hunter.

Cease your murders or you will suffer the consequences for as long as I have ammo in my guns or axe in my hands. --The Fifth Horseman 11:43, 15 Feb 2006 (GMT)

You have no idea what you're doing, man. You're believing the Clinic's lies, and you're making me pay for it. We're the heroes, and you should be, too. You would be if you just came to terms with the truth.

The Clinic are evil. Defend them and so are you. Nobody believes us, but we're not going to stop fighting. And, if you aren't familiar with the Bale Mall Elite.. If you kill anyone at all in their mall, no matter what lost cause you're fighting for, they're after you.

Cheers, you bastard. --Zaknrfama 22:09, 15 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I'm not "believing" them any more then you. It is however very clear who started the killings - that's you, in case anyone wonders - and thus you are the one guilty.

By the way, I haven't reported YOU to BME yet only because the machine I had the screenshot on got hit with a virus and I have yet to recover my files from its HDD - the proof of your PKing inside Bale included.

Cheers, you bastard. Have a nice death. --The Fifth Horseman 13:59, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I have never, ever killed a single person inside Bale Mall. Never. --Zaknrfama 14:16, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)

OK, let me rephrase - you have not actually _killed_. You have, however, attacked me and seriously wounded. That's better for ya? --The Fifth Horseman 16:20, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)

I remember attacking you in one of the entry points of the mall and running out of AP so I ran back into the mall and slept. The entry points don't count as part of the mall. I never attacked you in the mall. --Zaknrfama 16:52, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Well.. The BME just disbanded. Guess this argument doesn't matter anyways, though I swear I never attacked you in the mall. --Zaknrfama 16:55, 16 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Thank Doubler for having mercy upon your soul. You are under temporary amnesty until you kill a member YRC or The Abandoned again. This amnsety does not extend to other Neon Knights. --The Fifth Horseman 16:08, 17 February 2006 (GMT)

Oh, come now, Doubler, that's no fun. Come get me! --Zaknrfama 21:00, 17 February 2006 (GMT)

I suspect it'll change back soon enough. I just want our people to consider there are many more important things then Zak-hunting out there. --Doubler 21:10, 17 February 2006 (GMT)

Yeah, everyone is treating me like I'm suddenly important, but I still think me and mine aren't worth very much right now.. XD --Zaknrfama 21:13, 17 February 2006 (GMT)

You sooo blew it... You had a chance for a couple days of peace. Well, given that you have returned to PKing, I'm coming after you again. With the same "cease and desist" order. --The Fifth Horseman 11:30, 20 February 2006 (GMT)

Whoops, God's apparently come back to Earth. Sorry, God, I don't think Zak meant to disobey your almighty, obviously justified word. He, as well as all PKers, should repent! Someone get the holy water, I feel sinful! --Nubi 22:00, 20 February 2006 (GMT)

And so, you are dead again.

BTW, BME have explicitly stated that you are not to add anyone again to their enemies page. Just as I thought, only acknowledged BME members have the authority to do that. --The Fifth Horseman 19:45, 20 February 2006 (GMT)

Oh, I guess I have to tell them about it privately. Well, either way, Horseman.. Log back on, check your HP. --Zaknrfama 21:49, 20 February 2006 (GMT)

Pathetic. Was that all you're capable of? --The Fifth Horseman 12:52, 21 February 2006 (GMT)

Yeah, that's all I'm capable of when I stand up as a zombie and stand up as a human in one go. Thanks for sleeping two blocks away from where you killed me, though, you made it much easier on me. :D --Zaknrfama 21:01, 21 February 2006 (GMT)

Seems like BME don't want you around anymore. Welcome back to the hunt, Zakkie! --The Fifth Horseman 15:14, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

Yeehaw! --Zaknrfama 16:52, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

Marriage Proposals

Zak, I love you. Marry me. Also, if you don't update your journal I'll have to track you down and spend fifteen AP attempting to punch you. --Blig 03:57, 17 Feb 2006 (GMT)

Yay! Let's elope! Also, I will probably update it today. Zak has been dead so much recently it's been hard for him to write anything else than 'zambah ahz hambargar graaagh'. --Zaknrfama 21:02, 17 February 2006 (GMT)

Pker? ME?

No, I'm not a PKer. Whoever spraypainted that is just plain insane. --Zacharias Cross 13:38, 22 February 2006 (GMT)

Yeah, I didn't believe it, I just wanted to let you know someone said that. XD --Zaknrfama 20:59, 22 February 2006 (GMT)

• • • Zak - I got your messages about PKing. BME is under new management as of 2/18/2006 (or thereabouts) with the return of myself, Donnie and Evil. You know that we do our best to protect EVERYONE - even PKers - as long as they behave inside the mall. Many Abandoned members have said that you killed inside the mall on previous occasions but I have not seen any screenshots. Therefore I have not added you to the "enemies" list.

Sloppy Joe and Dexter Manley were executed for killing you by BME members.

The reason the page has not been updated and won't be for a few days is that i got PKed and then bought brain rot by accident (I had 3500 experience points and decided to buy ALL the zombie skills without reading them). Anyone who killed you inside the mall prior to 2/18 or so has been given a warning not to do so again. I will add anyone after 2/28 to the list within the next week. I will say this also - everybody hates you. i don't know why but they do. If you PK outside and thenslip back in to be protected it would seem you are using a loophole to staysafe and that will be something we look at in the future. If you want people to like you = play nice and stop being a dick. --Legend X

• RE

If you PK outside and thenslip back in to be protected it would seem you are using a loophole to staysafe and that will be something we look at in the future.

But that's exactly what he is doing the whole time. --The Fifth Horseman 13:02, 24 February 2006 (GMT)

No, I have never, ever killed inside Bale Mall. I'm not dumb enough to use this loophole, as you say, and screw it up for myself. If I HAVE, then I must be full of something and completely wiped any memory of doing this out of my end. Which is, you know, unlikely. And I don't need people to like me. I'm quite sure they wouldn't like me any more than they already do if I stopped using Bale Mall as a hiding place. Besides, I've actually only seen one or two people get mad at me OOCly, and they were definitely overreacting.

Also, as much as people might think it is, Bale isn't safe for me right now. People kill me anyways, disregarding the rules. I keep thinking they'll be smart enough not to get onto your enemies list, but they don't seem to care. So I'm trying to find a good place to stay outside of the mall where I can cause proper trouble without getting caught or abusing Bale privileges too much. --Zaknrfama 02:43, 24 February 2006 (GMT)

Just go down to the YRC and then you can fight the Abandoned 1 on 50. LOL. If that's really what you want. I can't promise that nobody will kill you in the mall. I can promise that we will kill them in revenge, and add them to our list as long as you haven't killed in the mall. --Legend X

The Bullshit

What bullshit do I need to cut, Horseman? --Zaknrfama 17:12, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

Lessee... the part about a member of The Abandoned willing to join your group. You think nobody checks the edit history on here, or what?

You won't achieve anything with trying to turn members of our group against each other. --The Fifth Horseman 17:54, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

Hahaha. I am not an idiot, Horseman. Check my user page's history, Chezzard posted it there. I just moved it here. Someone already told you to check the user page over it, too. Three cheers for ignorance. Also, I just shot you. Cheers once more. --Zaknrfama 17:59, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

My apologies for this, Zaknrfama. There was some confusion as we were not informed, and sometimes people are quick to act. The matter has been resolved. Good luck with your new member ;) --Doubler 18:01, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

Thanks. :D And yeah, I had a feeling somebody would expect me to be a liar. Really, everybody thinks I'm so mean, and they always unknowingly manage to make me look bad. XD --Zaknrfama 18:06, 6 March 2006 (GMT)

The Current Horde

Glad to see that you have given up PKing to help fight the horde. (I have been ordered by their leadership not to mention them by name.) Really wish Everybody Else felt the same way. Bastard killed me. There is so much going on, and now I'm out for like the next week or so. Huge Line. Clinic Busted. Sucks. I will post a message that we shouldn't kill you until the horde is gone. --MickDansforth 09:25, 4 April 2006 (BST)

Cool, thanks. But yeah, I don't want to go all dictator on the Knights, so if Everyone Else still wants to kill you guys it's up to him. Just kill him back when you can and everything is fair. XD --Zaknrfama 21:02, 4 April 2006 (BST)

I put a couple of shots into the Zed Eating you in the PD, but he bit me back, so I had to run, but he wasted at least 2 AP on me. Good Luck. --NathanDansforth 09:37, 10 April 2006 (BST)

Thanks for trying, but eventually it or another one killed me while I was offline. D: I should be back to life soon though. --Zaknrfama 21:11, 10 April 2006 (BST)

I'm glad to see that you're back to your old self! Yags has been slow, but now I have a purpose and several shotguns for you! Don't answer the door, 'cause the reaper's there! -- J Money 19:49, 26 April 2006 (EST)

The Abandoned

Ok, in response to your question on our wiki discussion page. The answer is simply 'yes, it's acceptable'. We try and remove those who do the clinic ill from the clinic itself, be it Malton DEA, rotters or NK. Also, getting killed often is the risk you take going up against a large established group.

Still, I do want people to be able to have fun with this game. If you say it's too much the way it´s going now I might be able to do for you what I've done before and give you a bit of respit untill you attack again. I think that´s more then reasonable.

By the way, `Props to him if he's not zerging´ is a serious accusation. If you have proof or good reason for suspicion you should contact me, but loose accusations are not appreciated. --Doubler 23:08, 22 May 2006 (BST)

That was not an accusation... I wasn't suggesting that he was zerging, I was saying that as long as he's not zerging he's pretty good at keeping me out of the way. Anyways, you don't have to tell him to calm down now, but you might want to remind him that I don't go around killing the same person all the time. I make sure not to kill the same person too often because, you know, that would be mean and griefing-like. --Zaknrfama 20:58, 23 May 2006 (BST)

Inquery

What do you think of this? Doesn't seem like something you'd agree with. --Doubler 21:13, 14 June 2006 (BST)

I didn't think it would work, so I didn't argue with him, but yeah, he did do it and I did allow him to. But wait, is that considered zerging? 'cause, if it is, damnit I should have told him not to do it. I don't think there was any useful information for him to get us anyways so, if it's considered zerging, poor him.. D: --Zaknrfama 22:01, 14 June 2006 (BST)

It is extreme poor sport, and terrible abuse of trust. I find this most distasteful.

What now? Should I step up security of our group? Start giving direct orders to our members? Simply because some people have no respect for the trust they are given? Should we, as is so common, all suffer for the minority that will take any opportunity to better themselves? Sorry, but yuck. --Doubler 22:22, 14 June 2006 (BST)

If someone from an enemy group can successfully join your group and not be doubted at all, then yeah, that points towards getting better security. I seriously doubt we'll ever do it again, but I can never really give promises since my group is so bloody disorganized. Either way, there's nothing else I can say. It happened, it won't unhappen and I didn't do anything to stop it. --Zaknrfama 22:46, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Personally I had thought you above spying on other groups, but guess I was mistaken. Our security will not change in character, I will not sacrifice user freedom for that bunch. --Doubler 22:49, 14 June 2006 (BST)

I never thought of spying as badly as you do, actually, but now that I think about it, I'll make sure to tell anybody that has intent to spy on an enemy group not to do it. It doesn't seem too bad to me, but you're right, it still is sinking to a new low. It won't happen again, but I'm not about to get angry at the spy because of it, since I approved of his behavior. --Zaknrfama 23:27, 14 June 2006 (BST)

Hmm, the plot thickens. Would you happen to know what character he used as a spy, and if he's just playing the joker now? --Doubler 11:20, 16 June 2006 (BST)

I don't think he's got a spy in there anymore.. If he says he does, I'll tell him to stop, but I'm pretty sure he's stopped already and just wants to threaten you guys. XD --Zaknrfama 21:15, 16 June 2006 (BST)

He has released classified information. Specifically, the passwords to the UDTool Registry. Even though they have already been change, don't you think it's really, REALLY low thing to do?

Also, he's a registered zerger on Resensitized. So that you know. --The Fifth Horseman 12:52, 19 June 2006 (BST)

Actually, the resensitized idiots wont tke me off that list, even though i havent used those characters for so long. The reason people still saw them around was that my old roomate now uses them. I asked him to move them away from yagoton, he said he has moved them away. I dont know this for sure, but I ask you this, have you seen them in yagoton over the last week? (whih was when i contacted him) Nope, i didnt think so. DarkStar2374383 ^{Talk | LDY | LOE} 13:13, 19 June 2006 (BST)

Either way, you just leeched onto Neon Knights and through your actions rob that group of all semblance of reputation they had until now. You not only lack the basic ideas of honor and fair-play but also express blatant ignorance of the game rules.

Zak, seems like Darkstar is going to replace you as our practice target. --The Fifth Horseman 12:39, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Right, so, Darkstar, if you are still spying on them, stop now. It was never actually necessary since anything you can find wouldn't really help us, and it's already caused unnecessary drama. --Zaknrfama 21:02, 20 June 2006 (BST)

Ok, so this is getting pretty silly: http://abandoned.awardspace.com/. Honestly, this guy is a pure nuisance, with only his own interests at heart. Do you seriously want to be tied to this? To be honest, I think Darkstar mainly lists your group affiliation to have an excuse for going after us. --Doubler 14:30, 16 July 2006 (BST)

What? The link doesn't work, and a member of The Abandoned called The Neon Knights gay. I'm assuming whatever Darkstar is doing is silly immature internet sarcasm stuff, which is no worse than calling my group gay. As long as I can avoid any pointless, stupid wiki drama I don't mind. Of course, I guess this is starting to point towards future drama. Next time you have something to point out about Darkstar doing dumb stuff I'll just kick him out. --Zaknrfama 21:22, 16 July 2006 (BST)

Well I dont think what im doing is stupid at all. Im simply showing the public that The Abandoned are hypocrites. Doubler, you may have disabled my site for now, but it wont be for long. Maybe not at the same address though. As for The Neon Knights, I guess I must be leaving. It was fun, but I have other things to tend to now. Cheers Zak, See you later. -- DarkStar2374383 ^{Talk | LDY | LOE} 21:29, 16 July 2006 (BST)

Seeya. Thanks for the help. :D --Zaknrfama 21:02, 18 July 2006 (BST)

The site was full of (recent) images from our forum. And, to be honest, it weren't the images I wanted to get rid of (since they actually did the exact opposite of what Darkstar implies), it was the idea. These things drag the game down. And Darkstar personally offended Orie, the image was propably aimed against him. Anyway, seems this issue's over then. --Doubler 10:18, 17 July 2006 (BST)

I'm afraid the "issue" has only just began.

Zaknrfama, you might want to check this out: http://www.freewebs.com/2374383/ . That's exact same content, except this time DarkStar has used a different host. --The Fifth Horseman 15:45, 19 July 2006 (BST)

Except, like, I have nothing to do with this. --Zaknrfama 19:50, 19 July 2006 (BST)

Oh, I do have something to say, though, looking at the page with the logo Orie or whoever made. And what I have to say is: What the hell? 'Lowering yourselves to our level'? You think that your whole group calling my whole group gay is just as bad as one member of a group saying he hates another group? I'm not saying The Abandoned said that, but that's a pretty stupid comparison. --Zaknrfama 19:55, 19 July 2006 (BST)

I was one of the people who tried to talk Orie out of it, and unfortunately DarkStar has started using the defaced logo when he was a member of your group.

Also, if it is of any consolation, I did not mean you or Neon Knights as a whole but particular people who were harrassing our group in that fashion at the time (to be specific, Akule and DarkStar). --The Fifth Horseman 12:46, 21 July 2006 (BST)

Journal

Please update your journal? I do enjoy reading it, and I know you're alive enough to write in it because I'm sleeping in the same building as you. (Albeit in a different room, because you scare me. =P) -Ruar 08:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Eeep, posted that twice, deleted one of them. -Ruar 08:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, sure. I didn't know anybody read that. --Zaknrfama 23:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

A long time

It's been a very long time since I saw you, Zaknrfama (or the other way around, whatever). You didn't forget me, did you? :P

Seriously, it's a sad state that the Neon Knights are down to just you (Although there's enough pk'er activity to drive one crazy, most of that is hard to enjoy; it feels more like cheating then anything else). --Doubler 16:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Naw, Son of Uborkapete has just been easier to find lately. And the Neon Knights were never more than four people, you know. Haha. I would go try to advertise again but every time I do that people just say 'OMFG YOU PKERS ARE RUINING THE GAME FOR EVERYONE' and my thread dies. D: --Zaknrfama 01:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Son of Uborkapete gets all the fun.

Heh, maybe I should join you - Just kidding, but I do believe if any sort of pk'er group should be recruiting, it's the survivor rp'ing ones. Maybe you could steal some members from less favourable groups. Heh, but I'm not here to complain, I just thought I'd encourage you a bit. I'll challenge you to a game of tag once I get bored doing what I'm doing at the moment ;) --Doubler 20:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I look forward to shooting you some more. :D --Zaknrfama 01:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The Neon Knights are History?

Instead of deleting them, why not make your group historical?--Private Mark 21:38, 3 September 2007 (BST) Yeah, this was always my favorite group because it was the first form of great rollplaying I saw when reading the wiki. I loved your journal entries too by the way.--Andrew Tsai