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'''SPAM!''' - There's a limit of one suggestion per day. Also, you can't say "IF YOU WANT MAH SUGGESTION YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR MAH OTHE SUGGESTION LOL!". Where's Iscariot when you need him?--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 01:59, 1 June 2009 (BST)
'''SPAM!''' - There's a limit of one suggestion per day. Also, you can't say "IF YOU WANT MAH SUGGESTION YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR MAH OTHE SUGGESTION LOL!". Where's Iscariot when you need him?--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 01:59, 1 June 2009 (BST)
 
*I wasn't aware of the limit. And I was just informing that xx suggestion replies on xx suggestion. But fine, I will remove it.


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Suggestion type

survivor character class

Suggestion scope

Humans

Survivors

Adds a whole new range of useful skills for human players. Newbs starting out as Burglars can get more easily into safehouses. Mafia can get weapons easier.

PKers

Plenty of PKing skills as well. Robbery and Stickup are specifically for PKing.

Zombies

Death cultists can benefit from PKer skills in attacking. Vandalism and Sabotage allow Zombie spies to work better. Burglary can help Parachuters and Pinatas.

Suggestion description

Most of the existing human character classes are public service. But in a post-apocolyptic city, there are bound to be looters and gangs, too. NOTE: SKILLS AND CHARACTERS WITH ASTERISKS REQUIRE THIS OTHER SUGGESTION TO WORK.

New Skills

PKer and Death Cult

  • Robbery - increases melee weapons attack against humans
    • Stickup - increases gun attacks against humans
  • Vandalism - increases attacks against Barricades
  • Burglary - allows you to bypass Barricades up to VHB+0.

Pro-survivor

  • Bootlegging - increases chances of finding alcohol at pubs.
    • Illegal distillery - allows you to make alchohol for xx AP (similar to NecroNet for syringes).
  • Weapons trade - increases chances of finding weapons at Police Stations
    • Weapons dealing - allows weapons to be found at pubs
  • Unliscenced medicine - increases chances of finding FAKs
    • Unliscenced surgery - same as Surgery skill, however gives 10% chance of Infection during surgery
    • Perscription Abuse - increases chances of finding caffiene pills.*
  • Nightlife - increses chances of finding drugs*
    • Bribery - allows you to find drugs at Police Stations*

New Characters

Mafia

  • Starts out with Pistol, Weapons trade, and Mobile Phone
  • Starts out in commercial towers
  • Advantages: available weapons and communication
  • Disadvantages: few skills

Inmate

Smuggler*

  • Starts out with drugs, Bootlegging, and Nightlife
  • Starts out in Pubs
  • Advantages: can escape danger
  • Disadvantages: few useful skills

Burgler

  • Starts out with Length of Pipe, Burglary, and Construction
  • Starts out in residential towers
  • Advantages: can help maintain safehouses
  • DIsadvantages: not many ready sources of XP
  • Note: would replace Smuggler if this suggestion is denied.

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      • Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Kill - You will eat my poopie and love it! --PooEater 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Note - Inane vote removed. Defend in discussion. --DaModerator 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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  1. Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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