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#'''Kill''' - I said it in Developing Suggestions and I'll say it here - [[Game Assumptions|There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch]]. - [[User:FoxtrotJazzy|Foxtrot]] 19:50, 30 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - I said it in Developing Suggestions and I'll say it here - [[Game Assumptions|There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch]]. - [[User:FoxtrotJazzy|Foxtrot]] 19:50, 30 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - As above--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 21:01, 30 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - As above--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 21:01, 30 August 2009 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - vehicles just don't work in the game. Also, this is probably a dupe. - {{User:Armpit_Odor/sig}} 22:35, 30 August 2009 (BST)


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20090830 Motorcycles

Brainguard 17:58, 30 August 2009 (BST)

Suggestion type
Item Suggestion scope
Survivors, Auto Repair Shops Suggestion description
Motorcyles would be special items, findable in Auto Repair Shops for ~1% search rate. They take 40-50% encumbrance, and cannot go inside buildings (the Fort Gatehouse being the exception). They can be stored in Auto-Repair Shops by a method similar to Suggestion:20080414 Personal Lockboxes, except that ONLY motorcycles can be stored this way, limit 1 per user per building. Motorcycles must be fuelled every 24 hrs.

When there is a motorcycle in your inventory, you cannot enter a building. You move normally on the map, and only every other move would cost 1 AP. How would the server do that? It would log how many moves you've made since you got on the motorcycle (resets when you no longer have a powered motorcycle). If the motorcycle was powered, it would only cost an AP every other movement.

There would also be a way to account for debris built up on roads. Roads and the outside of buildings would have a certain debris percentage. When moving through a square, the debris percentage would be the chance of failing. If you fail on a block, your motorcycle does not proceed on that square, you take 10 damage and you get the message: Your motorcycle runs into debris and you take 10 damage. You pull the motorcycle out.

If the motorcycle crashes, there is a 50% chance that the motorcycle will be destroyed. Your motorcycle runs into debris and you take 20 damage. You lose your motorcyle in the debris.

Zombies with Ransack can increase debris percentages by 25% by clicking "Tear Up" on that road block or outside of a building, and survivors with Constuction and a Toolkit can repair it for 1 AP per 10% debris. If a zombie attacks a survivor on a motorcycle, the zombie gains extra XP and there is a small chance the motorcycle will be destroyed.

There - a balanced non-trenchie vehicle suggestion.

  • Not out of character (motorcycles are common in zombie fiction)
  • Useful for certain situations
  • Not overpowered
  • Accounts for debris

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Keep Votes

  1. Author Keep Because it would add interesting flavor. --Brainguard 17:59, 30 August 2009 (BST)

Kill Votes

  1. Kill - Not a fan of the debris mechanic. --Bob Boberton TF / DW Littlemudkipsig.gif 19:39, 30 August 2009 (BST)
  2. Kill - I said it in Developing Suggestions and I'll say it here - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. - Foxtrot 19:50, 30 August 2009 (BST)
  3. Kill - As above--Orange Talk 21:01, 30 August 2009 (BST)
  4. Kill - vehicles just don't work in the game. Also, this is probably a dupe. - User:Armpit_Odor/sig 22:35, 30 August 2009 (BST)

Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Spam - I'm going to set up a camera feed to this site so I can watch your crappy suggestion go down in flames from a safe distance. Not listening to the people on DS is as bad as not posting your idea there. Lelouch vi Britannia is helping make Ridleybank green_ and gives Achievements 18:59, 30 August 2009 (BST)
    Actually, you're probably the only detractor on te DS page whose conerns I didn't rectify, and also the only one who didn't give ideas for improvement. --Brainguard 19:21, 30 August 2009 (BST)
  2. Spam - There is nothing redeeming ni survivors being able to move all the way across the city in a single day/AP cycle. And next time listen to people in Talk:Suggestions when they tell you it's an unworkable idea. --WanYao 21:10, 30 August 2009 (BST)



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  1. Keep - I am the author and I am allowed to vote once on my own suggestions. --MrSuggester 05:01, 11 Nov 2005 (GMT)
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  1. Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Re - Please be more specific about how to fix it on the discussion page. --MrSuggester 14:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
      • Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Kill - You will eat my poopie and love it! --PooEater 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Note - Inane vote removed. Defend in discussion. --DaModerator 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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  1. Spam - Kung Fu CB Mama on Wheels is an inappropriate Survivor Class. --NoFunAtAll 09:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Dupe - Duplicate Suggestion --AnotherSuggester 05:01, 14 Nov 2005 (GMT)