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During the Great Suburb Group Massacre, I've noticed some groups using the code for big text (<nowiki><big></big></nowiki>) and bolding (<nowiki><b></b> or ''' '''</nowiki>.) I know that code has been historically used for alliances, but does anyone object to me removing that code when it's individual groups that are using it? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
During the Great Suburb Group Massacre, I've noticed some groups using the code for big text (<nowiki><big></big></nowiki>) and bolding (<nowiki><b></b> or ''' '''</nowiki>.) I know that code has been historically used for alliances, but does anyone object to me removing that code when it's individual groups that are using it? {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
:There's no reason for ''any'' groups to be using additional markup to give themselves undue prominence. The bold/big combo was just used to show the name of organisations with their member groups underneath. It's there to to help people navigate, nothing more. The recommended guidelines are [[Template:SuburbGroups|well documented]] on the template page. All group listings should conform accordingly. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
:There's no reason for ''any'' groups to be using additional markup to give themselves undue prominence. The bold/big combo was just used to show the name of organisations with their member groups underneath. It's there to to help people navigate, nothing more. The recommended guidelines are [[Template:SuburbGroups|well documented]] on the template page. All group listings should conform accordingly. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
==Updating the DangerMap System==
This is probably the most updated system of any we have. It's not the easiest to update though and could also do with some other minor tweaks. So here's a few suggestions I'd like some discussion/agreement on before changes are made. Each of these points is independent of the others.
1.  '''Change the code on all 100 suburb danger reports to [[User:The Rooster/Sandpit/2|this]].'''<br>This is intended to:
*Make it easier for users to update the map correctly by providing the options, with a legend and an example on page so they can tell what the change is as soon as the page saves. This also makes errors dead easy to spot.
*Prevent confusion when using the special/map variations by making it an option the average user will not need to edit.
*Provide flexibility for other pieces of coding by allowing the techie types to call their own formatting templates.
*Make it easier to provide instructions by adding it in a template.
Other notes:
*The current map templates would be renamed to something more explanatory, since the user needs no longer know the name.<br>Proposed: "DangerMap''NotorietyStatus''" where Notoriety would either be 'normal' or 'notable' and Status would be the status.
*After a quick inclusion limit test, I found this code would not endanger any existing templates and force them over the limit. The pre-expand include size, the important one, was unchanged between the current template and the code above. Post-expand and template arguments went up, but these are not factors towards the limit.
*Note: The link on the test page, "2", will link to the suburb when actually used, and not a red page.
2.  '''Change the available status text to one form of English. EG: 'safe' 'moderately dangerous' 'dangerous' 'very dangerous' and 'abandoned'/'a ghost town' '''
*To allow text based status to be shown, such as in tooltips, without odd English. 'Havercroft is safe' works now, 'Havercroft is moderate' does not.
*For the sake of being uniform.
3.  '''Change the [[User:DangerReport/Border|suburb border]] colour and unify it with the [[Template:Border|block border]] colour'''<br>Proposed: A darker shade of grey for the cell border and fill. Not as dark as the block one, somewhere in-between probably.
*This makes it easy to distinguish from the ghost town colour at a glance.
*Making the colours the same is a sensible thing to do.
{{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 19:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:58, 13 March 2009

Reporting Guidelines

Changing the Suburb Colour

It's fairly easy to switch a suburb from Safe to Very Dangerous. Every suburb has its own danger report page, just look for the link on said suburb page and change it to the proper level.

Let's say you want to change Dakerston danger level from Safe to Moderate.
First you will go to Dakerstown suburb page, and follow the link listed on the Update Dakerstown's danger level. on the suburb table.
There you will edit the page, and change the entry from {{mapSafe}} to {{mapModerate}}
This will automatically change the danger level on the suburbs page and in every suburb that lists this 'burb.

Normal suburbs use the map set of colors: use MapSafe for safe suburbs, MapModerate for suburbs with some zombies, MapDanger for dangerous suburbs and MapVeryDanger for suburbs full of zombies and PKers.

Notable and historically noteworthy suburbs use the Special set, so that the name of the suburb appears in bold face. Use the suburb names SpecialSafe, SpecialModerate, SpecialDanger and SpecialVeryDanger.

Please note that the keyword is Case Sensitive. If you add mapsafe or mAPsAFE the template won't load, leaving a blank background to the suburb.

Reporting discussion

Danger colors discussion

Crystal Clear app xmag.png main article: Suburb/Color System Discussion

Noteworthy Suburbs

Simple Guidelines for Noteworthiness

For a suburb to be able to be called Noteworthy, important events on the history of Malton must have happened on it. The place where hordes were born, important sieges, or events that gained attention from the entire community.

  • An important and unique event must have happened in the suburb
Events like Stanstock, the first and second sieges of Caiger Mall are nice examples of unique events that marked history. The first united the entire urban dead community, and the second and third were HUGE sieges where survivor-kind won against the hordes. Events like the Mall Tour and the Big Bash, on the other hand, doesn't make a suburb noteworthy, as several burbs took part of this event.
  • An important and/or historical group was formed in that suburb
When a group manages to draw the attention of the entire community or influence the gameplay centers his actions around a burb of birth, that suburb can be called noteworthy. Examples of this are Ridleybank and Yagoton. The first is the infamous homeland of zombie-kind, homeland of the Ridleybank Resistance Front, while the second is the home of the Yagoton Revivification Clinic, the first and most famous group dedicated to revivification.
  • A unique and noteworthy building exists in this suburb
This usually doesn't make a suburb noteworthy at all, unless important events on the history of Malton happened there. Resiting two huge sieges inside Caiger Mall make that unique building noteworthy, while having the only Zoo in the city isn't noteworthy as nothing important of note happened there.

Note that merely fitting in any of these categories doesn't automatically make a suburb noteworthy. It still needs the approval of the community. Nominate and discuss a suburb in the below header.

Nominations

General Discussion

Special formatting on group listings

During the Great Suburb Group Massacre, I've noticed some groups using the code for big text (<big></big>) and bolding (<b></b> or ''' '''.) I know that code has been historically used for alliances, but does anyone object to me removing that code when it's individual groups that are using it? Linkthewindow  Talk  07:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

There's no reason for any groups to be using additional markup to give themselves undue prominence. The bold/big combo was just used to show the name of organisations with their member groups underneath. It's there to to help people navigate, nothing more. The recommended guidelines are well documented on the template page. All group listings should conform accordingly. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 17:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Updating the DangerMap System

This is probably the most updated system of any we have. It's not the easiest to update though and could also do with some other minor tweaks. So here's a few suggestions I'd like some discussion/agreement on before changes are made. Each of these points is independent of the others.

1. Change the code on all 100 suburb danger reports to this.
This is intended to:

  • Make it easier for users to update the map correctly by providing the options, with a legend and an example on page so they can tell what the change is as soon as the page saves. This also makes errors dead easy to spot.
  • Prevent confusion when using the special/map variations by making it an option the average user will not need to edit.
  • Provide flexibility for other pieces of coding by allowing the techie types to call their own formatting templates.
  • Make it easier to provide instructions by adding it in a template.

Other notes:

  • The current map templates would be renamed to something more explanatory, since the user needs no longer know the name.
    Proposed: "DangerMapNotorietyStatus" where Notoriety would either be 'normal' or 'notable' and Status would be the status.
  • After a quick inclusion limit test, I found this code would not endanger any existing templates and force them over the limit. The pre-expand include size, the important one, was unchanged between the current template and the code above. Post-expand and template arguments went up, but these are not factors towards the limit.
  • Note: The link on the test page, "2", will link to the suburb when actually used, and not a red page.


2. Change the available status text to one form of English. EG: 'safe' 'moderately dangerous' 'dangerous' 'very dangerous' and 'abandoned'/'a ghost town'

  • To allow text based status to be shown, such as in tooltips, without odd English. 'Havercroft is safe' works now, 'Havercroft is moderate' does not.
  • For the sake of being uniform.


3. Change the suburb border colour and unify it with the block border colour
Proposed: A darker shade of grey for the cell border and fill. Not as dark as the block one, somewhere in-between probably.

  • This makes it easy to distinguish from the ghost town colour at a glance.
  • Making the colours the same is a sensible thing to do.

-- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 19:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)