Suggestion talk:20071219 Door Smash

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Door Smash

Timestamp:  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Type: Balance change
Scope: Who or what it applies to.
Description: Newb zombies will be able to smack down doors for 5 AP. These doors will be considered merely to have the lock broken, and can be set right by any survivor for 1 AP, and then he can close the door for another AP. Then, with MOL, a zombie gains the ability to SMASH DOWN the door for 5 AP- obliterating it, meaning a survivor with a toolbox will need to come in if they want the doors repaired. Without a door, a building can be caded as normal- but if caded, the door will be irreplacable until the barricades are down- and barricades will be 10% harder to build.

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no, the doors in malton are Uber Mega doors of Steel, not normal wood doors--CorndogheroT-S-Z 04:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hehehe. So do you like the suggestion, then? I figured, reading all of the suggestions on the wiki, that I had better get the stick out of my behind, in regards to suggestions, so I try to always figure out balanced solutions.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, I thought doors were always considered unlocked, since when does being alive/remembering life make you an expert lockpick? MoL just gives zeds the motor skills to work a doorknob. I would raise the AP cost, make it more of a move of desperation than anything, as a door, with frame and everything, would be harder to bash through than a few chairs propped against the doorway.--CorndogheroT-S-Z 04:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
This I like. One small point though, maybe this would apply to some buildings, but some buildings would have doors that this would not apply to. I was thinking buildings like warehouses, which usualy have large shutter doors and only one, reinforced steel door.--SeventythreeTalk 13:04, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I like it but I think it's a dupe.Studoku 15:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I like the 1st part. BoboTalkClown 22:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I think it's close to a dupe, but still a pretty good idea. I think the barricade debuff is a little high though. Maybe 5%? -- Ashnazg 0808, 21 December 2007 (GMT)



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It seems the most common problem is with the barricade nerf. Tell me if you would vote for this suggestion if it had this addition-

Survivors can go outside and repair the door if there are no standing zombies.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

There will almost always be a standing zombie. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
But again, that's another tactical option: is it worth it to spend the ammo to take down the outside zeds so you can repair the door? It gives zeds standing outside and killing them a purpose.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather laugh as they waste their days worth of ap, then blow their head off and toss them out. :/ --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
That's what you'd RATHER do. But would THEY rather do that? This makes the game more fun for everyone; it's a minor annoyance to them to get killed outside, and it would be a fair sized task for a survivor.  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Mmm. We'll wait for other imput, then.--  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Would you vote for it, though, if I removed the barricade nerf entirely?  Nalikill  TALK  E!  W!  M!  USAI  04:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 04:37, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Remove it and I'd be very likely to vote kill. It's pretty much the only real thing making this suggestion worth keeping and possibly not a dupe. Door removal means nothing if Doors can be strafed as a barricade level.--Karekmaps?! 06:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


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