Talk:Dartside Barricade Plan

As the current and long time residents of Dartside, the Regulators Alliance will be happy to help create a barricade plan, and maintain it based on our years of experience in Dartside. We have found in the past, that cade plans from either DEM, UBP, or groups that do not have presence in Dartside have failed. What looks great on wiki, rarely ever works in practice. The current state of affairs, though does not allow any kind of uniform plans, for anything. This large horde with 1400+ members is around. The Big Bash, and the RRF are hitting other areas as well. No suburb right now is safe, and no mall can be held with any frequency. This cade plan, is by and large several months premature. I would say we can revisit this down the line, when such a discussion is more viable.

Feel free to contact either Evl Kitty, Elliottmess or myself on the Regulator's Alliance page. Thank you.--John Blast 19:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Curley has always been, and should continue to be an entrance. The same with The Himbury Hotel.

Given Bagnell's proximity to the prime revive point in Dartside (Abarrow) and the Hospitals and PDs, why isn't it also at EHB for protection, with the Highton as the VSB for low levels, which, in all honesty, are not the prime revivers in the 'Burb anyhow.

Placing Brailsford and Blakesly at VSB, with Shapr at EHB is a complete switch from the normal pattern, and will only serve to confuse people that are used to the area.

Finally, running three Revive points in the 'Burb is probably too much, but that's a minor point.

--Turner Calton 19:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

First of all I have to say that we didn't mean to offend any of the longtime residents by posting a barricade plan. The reason why we chose Dartside was that it had the only zombie-free NT building (Highton) in the wider SW Malton. It was vital to us to set up camp there, as we came from far and with very limited resources. The nearest TRPs were St. Matthews Hospital and Eley Way PD which also had to be secured. Usually we just pass through Dartside so, until recently we didn't need to have a barricade plan, as we rarely stayed in town. However, when we came back, about a couple of weeks ago, trying to help retake the area (and by that I don't mean just Dartside), the total absence of a barricade plan made it difficult for us and other small groups and individuals to maintain free running lanes and entry points, as everyone barricaded as they saw fit and quite a number of times people were stuck outside and died. We don't want to impose anything on anyone, but we are not familiar with what is usually done, so we set up the plan based on the current status and what we thought would be optimal for the area, as well as UBP-compliant. Feel free to alter the plan in any way the local groups think it should be altered, but do post something so that the "tourists" know where to go and what to do. We'll be soon on our way again and it would be nice to see a barricade plan employed when we return. By the way, in the past 4 days more than 40 people have been revived in Corless Way and Broadway Drive with all revives flowing from the Highton NT. --MaDB0mBeR 20:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your response.

BP discussion see here for the last discussions on the barricade plans, including the originaly proposed plan.

--Turner Calton 01:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of the ongoing discussion (or where to find it). This is is unbelievable! It's been over two years and still no final plan? I'm sorry I ever proposed the BP. Anyway, we're moving out of Dartside so for the time being we can take that off our minds... I wish you the best of luck and I hope you manage to reach an agreement on barricading policies. --MaDB0mBeR 02:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Dart isn't like a lot of suburbs. We're a sleepy little place usually with a very committed local community. The free running lanes and entrances have been the way they were for ages (the Regulators Alliance just celebrated it's 2 year anniversary, to give you an idea of "ages"). Now, all that gets shucked when a horde comes through, BUT, let me tell you one reason a barricade plan doesn't get used.

Last time the DEM came up with one and tried posting it, we immediately had serial overcaders blocking up the entrances. Every last one of them.

What works for some places, doesn't for others. --Queen Mum 18:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Let me also add one other point here, a barricade is all well and good when you have the numbers to implement and maintain. The Regulators Alliance, is not a large army. We are more like a small guerrilla force, using small unit tactics. We last, because we endure. Our group is able to accomplish some things that larger groups cannot, and vice versa. My idea of fun is not spending an endless amount of actions points maintaining cades on Monday, so that on Tuesday they're back to where they were on Sunday. But, that being said, we would like to make sure that adequate resources are available for travelers and residents. Hopefully in the coming days and or months a workable plan can be implemented.--John Blast 05:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Updated to show Tikhon Medical as VSB. The hospital is managed by the Tikhon Medical group and their policy is to maintain VSB unless under seige. Questions or comments can be referred to the group at this link: [1] User:'''lrhyme'''/Sig 13:00, 22 October 2008 (BST)