UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Historical Events

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Why? Because of this. They are right, this is just an Event, it is not a group, but they deserve special recoginition. This is what this propasal does. Not to mention there are lot of in-game events that deserve to be documented, but may not, due to the fact that it is not in a subpage of any one group.--ShadowScope 23:11, 18 May 2007 (BST)

I'm sorry to be antagonizing you this time, but I do not think that the Christmas Three Dead Pool was historical at all. Those that were involved and had fun with it maybe would like to see the group honored in such a way, but for most of the people that stayed outside, and non-wiki users in general, it was just a nuisance, if they knew it at all. It's not like Maltonites we're actively aware of it, but some wiki users were. Also, this would bring a lot of conflict, claiming that in-group events like "Excursion" to the unknown parts of Malton for the RRF, different falls and recovering efforts for malls, stupid rallies such as the ones Jjames made and the others it spawned, and all of these are "historical" by nature and deserve their own protected pages based on an only POV that will be the one of their organizers. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 23:41, 18 May 2007 (BST)

Er. Actually, it's not antagonism, I actually think of your points, and see them as valid. But, well, other people may disagree, like swiers. What I am thinking is that if there is already a lot of people against, following the same beliefs as you do Matthew, then I'll withdraw this without fanfare. If there are people for, I'll put it to a vote, but of course, not vote for it myself. I really like criticism at this point so I know faults.--ShadowScope 00:04, 19 May 2007 (BST)

I disagree that the CTDP should be placed in this category, or used for an example. Something closer would be the past Mall Tours. Stuff like that. More 'group-like'. --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 07:11, 19 May 2007 (BST)

That would be a better deffinition of "Historical events": those groups that by nature are linked to an ingame event and when that event cease so do the groups purpose and existence. In that way, we can have the different Mall Tours, the Big Bash, the BBB and many more in a bid for historical status with a bigger consensus right after the event is done, not withstanding the claims that "they are still on the stats page". --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 09:29, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Couldn't put it better myself! --_Ducis ^Dux_Sloth^Talk 11:51, 19 May 2007 (BST)

Makes sense. I'll possibly change it if it grows popular. CTDP seems to already being saved, so I'll just have it apply to in-game events, not meta-game events, like the CTDP. Plus, since there would be voting, if many people see the event as isolated and not that important (like the CTDP), it would be rejected for Historical status anyway.--ShadowScope 20:03, 19 May 2007 (BST)

I think its a good idea. Ideas should be reconized as readily as groups. --Poodle of doom 02:08, 23 May 2007 (BST)

I kinda think this is a good idea as long as there is a clear line and qualifications. Specifically that it has to have been a big ingame event that effected either multiple suburbs or how the game was played for a group, such as triggering a change. Certain things like Excursion, the Big Bash, all Mall Tours, the Strike, and all three major Caiger wars(Shacknews defeating it being the third.) would be a great way to rate these types of things. Something on that level is clearly a historical event and is already pretty much considered historical in a very real sense, why not make it easier to find what shaped the game and players aside from just groups, this is more than a game of groups. P.s. CTDP does not meet any such requirements and is an out of game event Neither do the BBB, aside from mabey a battle of blackmore or whatever the first major event of survivors inhabiting Ridleybank was, they are a group not an event. P.p.s. random mall seiges really don't count for much as an event because they happen so frequently, level of involvement and importance to how the game is played aren't effected by them. --karek 09:58, 23 May 2007 (BST)

You can overdo these things..... on the other hand, the fame of certain events sometimes seem to be based upon the level of marketing involved, rather than the actual effect in-game. It's a shame no-one did a wiki page for the recent upsurge in Zombie dominance in Malton, surely the biggest event in recent history, with more suburbs being completely wiped out than in a long, long time. Thankfully largely subsided, Mall tour 07, for example, was surely nothing but a footnote compared to the overall state of the City at that time....--Crabappleslegalteam 01:43, 25 May 2007 (BST)

Well, actually...http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Zombie_Renaissance . We do have a page about the wiki page for the recent upsurge in zombie dominance in Malton.--ShadowScope 06:11, 25 May 2007 (BST)

Round 1 of Voting

Let see how this thing goes.--ShadowScope 06:11, 25 May 2007 (BST)

cahem... things like this dont need to go through policy discussion. Just go ahead and create the farken category and start sorting historical events. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 23:03, 25 May 2007 (BST)

I think that this is actually a perfect example of what has to go trough policy discussion. Take in account that we're asking for an official system of treatment of these events, that include only-sysop actions like protecting pages. --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 01:05, 26 May 2007 (BST)

you think so, huh... that explains why you never got to be a psyop... you really dont know how things should be run around here. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 22:31, 27 May 2007 (BST)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that this is exactly the right way to do this. --Darth Sensitive ^W! 05:22, 28 May 2007 (BST)

{{Ohsnap!}} --Matthew Fahrenheit ^YRC☺T☺+1 21:14, 1 June 2007 (BST)