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well, i'm new, so i think a sandbox is a good idea, to prevent ruining other peoples pages--[[User:Che13|Che13]] 02:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

testing my sig--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 02:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
more sig testing--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 04:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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{{ud|Upperbox=You are inside '''here'''. decorate the walls.  The building has been extremely heavily barricaded. 

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*<font color=darkblue>'''someone'''</font> killed a zombie <font size=2>''(4 seconds ago)''</font>
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==Proposed page for the evac plans==

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==Fallback points strategy==
* A part of us should always be 1 step ahead of the others, if we are holding the current location, those members should be at the primary fallback point to do some scouting (check danger and cades level, change the strategy if it's necesary) and getting ready some of that beutifull [[Useful_Items#NecroTech_Revivification_Syringe|glittering serum]] for the fallem. If we have to move to the primary fallback point then the scouts should move to the secondary ASAP. Current scouts are:
*If the nearest [[NecroTech Building]] falls, soon after the mall will fall (usually 24 to 48 hours, sometimes even in the same day). Primary fallback points usually falls 24 to 72 hours later than the mall becouse the [[Zombies]] spread into smaller groups and atack every building in their way.
* If it's clear that the primary fallback point will fall soon (for example same amount of zeds and survivors in it) just cade, heal and move to the secondary rendevouz point, especially if you can revive others.

==Current location==
Defending [[Treweeke Mall]] in [[Dulston]]. Particulary [[The Whitlock Building]] at [[92,5]]

please check the [[Dulston_Alliance/Operations#The_.22If_All_Hell_Breaks_Loose.21.22_Emergency_Plan|Dulston barricade plan]]

Primary revive point at [[Bruorton Drive]] 92,6 as the [[Heddington Walk Railway Station]] serves as an entry point both to the mall and the NT building

==Rendevouz points==
*'''Primary:''' Due to the location of [[Dulston]] chosing fallback points either to the north or the east would get us trapped in the worst case escenario situation so the first fallback point in case of [[The Whitlock Building]] falling into [[Zombie]] hands is [[The Starr Building]] in [[Rhodenbank]]. Entry point at [[Gable Walk Fire Station]] 89,5
::::*AP: 3 to the entry point 5 to the building
::::::*Revivification point: [[The Cabble Monument (Rhodenbank)|The Cabble Monument]] 88,6


*'''Secundary:''' [[The Devonshire Building (Rhodenbank)|The Devonshire Building]] 83,5 in [[Rhodenbank]]. Entry point at [[Billinghurst Place Police Department]]
::::*AP: 5 to the entry point 8 to the building
::::::*Revivification point: wasteland at 83,4
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'''Note:''' I'm asking myself for this page to be deleted, since I think it's creating too much Wikidrama. My idea behind the suggestion was simply to give more "tools" for [[RP]], and the discussion is turning into a nightmare of political correctness versus incorrectness, English geography, and personal religious belives. Aparrently I totally understimated the controversy religion can produce on the wiki, and it's getting totally out of hand. I didn't think I would get people so fired up, and it wasn't my intention--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 08:04, 9 June 2007 (BST)

===20070608 Malton's religion diversity===

{{User:Che13/Sig}} 10:01, 8 June 2007 (BST)

'''Suggestion type'''<br />
Building change.

'''Suggestion scope'''<br />
some churches, survivors and zombies from other religions.

'''Suggestion description'''<br />
I suggested that in churches you could find [[Clothes/Suggestions#Religion_related_necklaces|Religion related necklaces]], like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosary#Rosary_beads Rosary beads.] (small necklace crucifixs) and medals of the saint the building is named after. Two users ([[User:Lucky 1uke|Lucky 1uke]] and [[User:Queen Mum|Queen Mum]]) asked for other religions to be included too, and that made me think malton is in need of at least some of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups major religious groups] representation. Simply put at least some churches should be changed (only in the name and description) to the folowwing: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosques a mosque], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synagogue a sinagogue], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism a buddist temple] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism a hinduism temple]. Malton is too big to lack those, and it would add a lot of flavour and rol playing posibilities.
I dont suggest the churches that should be changed, becouse I think kevan should pick them.

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'''Keep Votes'''
# '''Keep''' -  Author vote--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 10:01, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' I think this is a briliant Idea. Adds flavour and interest. C'mon guys, let's not be all boring about it.--[[User:Seventythree|Seventythree]] 14:36, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Karek, Kevan is quite supportive for map changes. reread [[Talk:Clothes#face_mask.3F|it]] and look [[User_talk:Kevan#A_New_Malton|here]] and second Malton is the size of a metropole with hundreds of churches and 5 cathedrals. With about 5% to 10% of the religious population being non-christian finding some religious buildings of other faiths is almost certain. It would be fun to include simply for flavor.--<small><span style="border: 1px solid MediumSeaGreen">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black">&nbsp;Vista&nbsp;</span>''']][[Signature_Race|<span style="background-color: MediumSeaGreen; color: Ivory ">&nbsp;+1&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:50, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Keep''' - Imagine the role-playing possibilities: an anti-semetic Zed... --[[User:Charley C.|Charley C.]] 17:31, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#: Or a zed trying to eat only kosher survivors...--<small><span style="border: 1px solid MediumSeaGreen">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black">&nbsp;Vista&nbsp;</span>''']][[Signature_Race|<span style="background-color: MediumSeaGreen; color: Ivory ">&nbsp;+1&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:29, 8 June 2007 (BST)

'''Kill Votes'''
# '''Kill''' - The same as armareum, but just in Kill form. Leave religius conflicts out of game... --[[User:Duke Garland|Duke Garland]]<sub>[[User talk:Duke Garland|T]]</sub><sup>[[LCD]] [[SSZ]]</sup> 10:16, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - What does this have to do with anything? The buildings are in place now and in any well sized american or british town the likelyness of finding a noncatholic/christian church is extremely low. Just assume Malton either didn't have any or the portion of malton closed off didn't have any. Problem solved.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 10:27, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#:Moved discussion to the [[Suggestion_talk:20070608_Malton%27s_religion_diversity|talkpage]] due to size issues.--<small><span style="border: 1px solid MediumSeaGreen">[[User:Vista|'''<span style="background-color: Ivory; color:Black">&nbsp;Vista&nbsp;</span>''']][[Signature_Race|<span style="background-color: MediumSeaGreen; color: Ivory ">&nbsp;+1&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:29, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Pointless Flavor. --[[User:Saluton|Saluton]] 14:51, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#:'''Re''' - can you say [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oximoron oximoron]? If it adds flavour, it's not pointless--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 15:01, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#::I'm going to step in and be pedantic here. Can you ''spell'' '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron oxymoron]'''. And actually looking at the article, an oxymoron is rather a compliment - since it has inherent purposefulness on intent for use (and humour). A contradiction in terms is probably more what you meant. :P [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 18:32, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Opens the door to a lot of pretty tasteless things, like kill-the-jew missions etc. --[[User_talk:Toejam|T]][[User:Toejam|oejam]] 15:22, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#:'''Re''' - What you mean something like [[Queer_Jew_Renegades|this]]? doing tastefull or tasteless things depends on the users, not on additions to the game--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 15:34, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' Whoah there. One Re per vote there, pal. --[[User:Magentaine|Magentaine]] 18:11, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' - Because if we did this, we're gonna have a lot of people requesting their religion to be put in. Yeah, Kevan could just ignore all the other requests, but I've seen some pretty heated up religious Zealots before, and if killing this suggestion means I won't have to see it again, great. If we can work this in with '''everyone's''' wants and needs, be my guest. Also, as someone touched up on it, the religious fighting that could erupt wouldn't be too pretty either. A {{User:Suicidalangel/Sig}} 18:56, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' 1. This author's an athiest. 2. We don't need more divisons, more conflict in Malton. [[User:Nalikill|Nalikill]] 20:24, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#'''Kill''' Just a bad idea. --[[User:Slowwber|Slowwber]] 20:37, 8 June 2007 (BST)
'''Spam/Dupe Votes'''
# '''Spam''' - This just sounds like Political Correctness to me. I don't see any benefit, or need. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 10:06, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#: '''Re''' - Well the benefits are in the role playing aspect of the game, althought I admit there's no benefit beyond flavour. And for the politically correct part I'm an Atheist since my 10th birthday and in my honest opinion all religions are just scams--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 10:20, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#::'''Re''' - I wasn't trying to say that you were suggesting this to be PC, since I saw your origin of this suggestion. However since it's such a pointless addition, any inclusion would only be PC, as far as I can see. It's not inconceivable that a town in UK only has Churches. [[User:Armareum|armareum]] 11:45, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#:::'''Re''' - Malton is a city not a town, find me and english city wich has 5 cathedrals an not even one temple of a non christian religion and I will delete the suggestion myself--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 15:12, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#Total Dupe. Yes, I am lazy and cannot be bothered finding the link. However, name changes for the religious buildings has been suggested ''many'' times. Please check the archives before you suggest something people! Also, There would be ''many'' more churches than mosques and synagogues. It's England. Protestant capital of the world. The Anglican church anyone? --{{User:Dux Ducis/sig}} 03:55, 9 June 2007 (BST)
#: I did seach for it, and didnt find it, and on the protestant, and all the other religions that are branches of the christianity (more than 20 check the link on the suggestion) almost all of them call "church" to their places of adoration (althought is true some of them use "temple"). I'm not saying all should be renamed, just 3 or 4 in total--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 04:59, 9 June 2007 (BST)
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#'''Kill''' - What does this have to do with anything? The buildings are in place now and in any well sized american or british town the likelyness of finding a noncatholic/christian church is extremely low. Just assume Malton either didn't have any or the portion of malton closed off didn't have any. Problem solved.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 10:27, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#: '''Re''' - well, there ar a lot of changes like this in [[Peer_Reviewed_Suggestions#Buildings:_Specific_Types| Peer reviewed]] so, I dont think that makes a valid point--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 10:34, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#::'''Re''' - Oh yay, the peer reviewed argument. A lot of crap gets into peer reviewed, some good some bad. Just because it's in peer reviewed doesn't means it stands a snowballs chance in hell of getting into the game. [[Talk:Clothes#face_mask.3F|And recent comments by Kevan]] make the fact that this will probably never happen quite clear.--[[User:Karek|karek]] 11:16, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#:::'''Re''' - Well, aparently quoting kevan is just like quoting the bible :P, you can prove anything you want look: [[User_talk:Kevan#A_New_Malton|A new Malton]] (and in fact the part you quoted has a lots off maybes and probably, and should, so I dont see it soo clear as you do--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 15:01, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#::::That has nothing to do with changing building names(this would require renaming churches to mosques, etc.). It was about changing building descriptions and the stuff you find in them, yeah he mentioned renaming things, he also mentioned the problems it would cause which is a perfect reason why this ''should'' be killed. Your point still kinda sucks and all this would do is change something that has been perfectly fine for something like 2 years now with no real reason other than necklaces and PC. As I said before there aren't any reasons why this should be done and your argument is very lacking. And if you want to continue this any further I suggest moving it to the talk page. P.s. Vista, even if he is that doesn't change my vote, I still think it is a horrible idea with more problems than it's worth. --[[User:Karek|karek]] 15:12, 8 June 2007 (BST)
#::::: Your own qoute was about changing building names, but apparently you are as stubern as I am, so I see no point in moving it to the talk page, since it would be a waste of both your time and mine--{{User:Che13/Sig}} 15:25, 8 June 2007 (BST)

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