Suggestion:20070824 Hear Me Out

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20070824 Hear Me Out

Nalikill 20:21, 24 August 2007 (BST)

Suggestion type
Balancing

Suggestion scope
Junkyards

Suggestion description
Hear me out about this. It's a fence suggestion. BUT ONLY FOR JUNKYARDS. Hear me out. I've researched it: The first complaints were, zombies had no counterpart. Now they do. Ruining a building makes it much harder to repair, especially for lone survivors, or even poorly coordinated groups. Junkyards should be able to have their fences repaired, and thus become impenetrable to normal zombie action. Zombie groups ALREADY HAVE human spying groups- and, in compensation, JUNKYARDS WOULD BE UNBARRICADABLE. So a survivor who sleeps in a junkyard is gambling- a death cultist could come along in the middle of the night, and on the other hand, if one doesn't, you're guaranteed to survive.

So now that I've addressed the main concerns of the 'spam' crowd, I'll get to the mechanics- which I AM flexible on, if this needs tweaking.

If someone has:

Length of Pipe

Wirecutters

And a Toolkit

And the Construction Skill

They may repair a fence for 10 AP. The length of pipe and toolkit are used up in the construction

Forget this. Removed. Nalikill 20:55, 24 August 2007 (BST)

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1. Author Keep Please, keep an open mind Nalikill 20:22, 24 August 2007 (BST)

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1. Spam! Super megaspam! Not all zombies use cultists. For a very, very long time it was a shunned practice. Many hordes, such as the Militant Order of Barhah do not use them. What you are basically doing is making invincible buildings where zombies cant get you. Also, pile in 150 people and not even pkers can clear it. Also, it is obscenely easy for a human player to survive, even in a red suburb. Get the fuck out of suggestions! --The Grimch ^Mod-U! 20:33, 24 August 2007 (BST)

   By the way, you DO realize wirecutters can still undo the fences? As that was NEVER REMOVED FROM THE GAME MECHANICS? Just wanted to make sure that was obvious. If need be, I'll include a zombie skill on my next try to break it down. If that's what will make ANY OF YOU change your vote, just tell me on the discussion page Nalikill 20:40, 24 August 2007 (BST)

   Did you know you arent allowed to edit other peoples comments. Whee! Vandalism! No fence fixing at all. Ever. Its a broken mechanic. Zombies should not need sympathetic humans to get into buildings and kill them. --The Grimch ^Mod-U! 20:43, 24 August 2007 (BST)

   I AM allowed when you're personally insulting me. Insult my suggestion, FINE! But don't make it personal! Nalikill 20:46, 24 August 2007 (BST)

   Please go to Vandal banning where your actions have been reported. There is no rule saying i cant be a jerk. There is, however, a rule against editing other peoples comments. --The Grimch ^Mod-U! 20:51, 24 August 2007 (BST)