UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Better Protection for User talk: Kevan

The reason I bring that up is this VB discussion. (If you are a visitor from a future where the edit history has been purged, you find it here instead.)
Obviously, Kevan's talk page is a special case and should have special protection. But there's no policy covering that yet, which might not only lead to Doodles being let off the hook, but might encourage similar spamming among other drama mongers. Time to provide the ops with a legal foundation from which to tackle such bad faith edits.
For now to get the ball rolling, I simply went with Kevan's page rules and added a bullet point for general spam/harassment/off-topic blathering. But I'm certain there's more that should be discouraged.-- Spiderzed▋ 17:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Not in its current form

Things like this are of a serious enough nature to warrant inclusion on the mighty one's talk page, because of the issue of game-breakingness. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Agreed in such severe cases. I was thinking more about the 9,345th "Halp, I see no HP outside of bank ruins" report. -- Spiderzed▋ 18:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Some wording alteration may be needed then. Or indeed let us Crats post whatever we want. --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 18:11, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Being chosen as crat means you can perform easily abused janitorial functions; not that you receive any political power anywhere, including when whispering in the Almighty's ear. --VVV ^RPMBG 20:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

No. Will provide a better argument later on but now I just want to say that this is overkill, and needlessly creates an ivory tower around Kev.--Thadeous Oakley ^Talk 18:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree. At first, when I read the bullet points, I thought they were things you could do, and saying you can't is massively and ridiculously overkill.--Yonnua Koponen ^{Talk ! Contribs} 19:08, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thad, that policy is the entire point of your current A/VB case vs Doodles. You know, that case that will likely get closed as "Not Vandalism", because by current policy, all talk page rules can only be enforced by A/A. With this policy in place, Doodles' snow spamming would have been clear-cut vandalism. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)-- Spiderzed▋ 19:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Well it's basically what Kevan himself has written at the top of his talk page. So it's not as bad as it sounds. If he doesn't want it there, don't put it there. - User:Whitehouse 19:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Going slightly off of what Yon said, under this policy what can you do on Kevan's page that won't get you booked? ~ Red Hawk One ^{Talk | space for lease} 19:37, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

^What Whitehouse said. Those are the friggin' rules friggin' Kevan himself has placed on top of his friggin' talk page. Only that currently they have only as much legal weight as the rules on anyone else's talk page (i.e. none at all, unless they get enforced by A/A). I personally don't like all of them (e.g., I'd _love_ to discuss some balance issues like hopelessly weenie ferals vs unstoppable cade-blocking strike-teams with Kevan), but they have been put in place by himself. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

To quote Kevan's talk page rules: If you'd like to speak to an operator, please hold. If it's something that is of concern for Kevan and not adressing bug reports/game balance/future-of-the-game, it has its place on Kevan's talk page. Things like donation issues, notifying Kevan of the Sears incident, reinstalling the crats after Grim's coup or also Doodles' initial question about snow would be fine, just to pick a few examples from the current talk page. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:49, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Overkill. Most of the people who do the first four things do so in good faith, and we're supposed to have this divine shroud of assurance that unless you specifically try to hurt the wiki, you'll be allowed on it forever. The last point, I'd accept, but only because it's for Keven. It's certainly a slippery slope between keeping his page clean and adding loads of censorship elsewhere. --VVV ^RPMBG 20:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)