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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that their is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}). Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.  
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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that there is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}) and featured guides will have {{[[Template:FeaturedGuide|FeaturedGuide]]}} added to the page. Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.  


Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
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*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's inclusion on the page  
*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's inclusion on the page  


After one week, the votes will be tallied.  
After two weeks, the votes will be tallied.  
*A guide which has more than 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more than 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more than 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
*A guide which has more than 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
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#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''
''<big>If you are writing a guide and want feedback before taking it to review, please read the '''[[Developing Guides]]''' page.</big>''


Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.
Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.
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==Voting==
==Voting==
<!---Please add ''There are no guides currently under voting'' when cycling the last guide. --->
<!---Please add ''There are no guides currently under voting'' when cycling the last guide. --->
<!---Please DO NOT add any new guides to this page for now. We plan on doing all the guides over the next few weeks, in lots of about 10-20 at a time. Thanks. ---->
''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''
''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''


===[[Guides:Zombie]]===
''There are no guides currently under voting''
A guide to playing as a zombie. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 02:39, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''For'''
 
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===[[Guides:Corpse]]===
A survival guide for Corpse characters. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 02:39, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''For'''
 
'''Against'''
 
===[[Guides:Career Zombie]]===
A guide to zombie tactics/playing-styles. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 02:39, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
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==Recent Nominations==
==Recent Nominations==
''Please check the [[Guides/Review/Archive|archive]] for older nominations''


===[[Hiding In Plain Sight]]===
===[[Guides:Danger Reports Guide]]===
Think outside the barricade. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)
I wrote this guide in order to fill a spot that I felt was lacking: A comprehensive guide to the Danger Report System used throughout the wiki. The system set up really is quite awesome, and a very useful tool, but all the wiki code you have to look at (and also finding the reports!) can be a bit confusing. In addition, such a guide may intrigue new users who planned to just look at a few newbie guides, and then keep them as members of the wiki. Thanks for reading and voting!


'''For'''
{{Unsigned|Quinnr|22:51, 1 February 2013}}
#Sgood.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Bit long, but full of logic <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:37 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#One of the guides that I think contains some useful information and doesn't hurt my head to read. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)
#I like it! Just... don't let zombies see this guide, okay? ;) --[[User:Desyana|Desyana]] 08:42, 1 July 2009 (BST)
#As Boxy. It's good. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:04, 1 July 2009 (BST)
#It works, trust me. --[[User:Supflidowg|Supflidowg]] 16:52, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:26, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#What Desyana said :D --{{User:Fifth_Element/sig}} 06:53, 7 July 2009 (BST)


<br>
====Support====
'''Against'''
#Changes listed below have been implemented. Great job! '''Support''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
#'''Way''' to long for something that is just 'Hide in ruins and then after that, use common sense'. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 09:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Italics would have been more appropriate.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:04, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::Part of the reason it's long is because when I wrote it, there was a ''lot'' of opposition to the concept. People said it was madness, suicide -- or worse. Most were scared to give it a try. People were ''asking'' for detailed instructions... It ''had'' to be very detailed to get people to try it, to overcome their resistance. That, and the fact that I like to hear myself talk, of course... :) --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:12, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::All i said was that italics would have been more appropriate, and it wasn't even directed at you. That response is entirely nonsensical and has left me very, very confused. If you remove a colon after i have made this post it will be vandalism as per precedent. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:24, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::::Go back to making crop circles, you discombobulated marsupial, you. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::Just remember that ''you'' come to ''me'' for formatting help >=] {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 13:54, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Well written but [[Rat Tactics]] manages to say more in fewer words. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 21:11, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 07:20, 1 July 2009 (BST)


====Against====
#Against, but kind of reluctantly. I think its a good subject, and it is consice and well written, but it is unpolished as a "comprehensive" guide. To be comprehensive, it would need to be more informative. What tips can you provide users for getting info from the game to the wiki (pen and paper, copy/paste, external military reports, etc.)? How do these report affect the various maps on the wiki ([[Danger Center]], [[Mall Status Map]], [[NT Status Map]], etc). What info can be provided about old reports? I'd suggest [[Developing Guides]] to help get it there. If left as is, I'd be for reviewed guide but I don't feel its Featured guide material. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</sub>


'''Voting closed''' - With 9 For and 3 Against this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 50% support''' and will remain on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)
====Abstain====
*Putting this as an <s>'''abstain'''</s> (see above) for the moment, but it's more of a '''comment/suggested changes'''. A few things:
**In the first paragraph of "Reading Reports", you should probably mention that no Danger Reports exist for open blocks (streets etc.);
**When you ask for people to "change the status to "unknown"", you should probably specify a standard at which the status should be changed. The most common one I've seen is if a status is more than two weeks old, but given the lower activity levels on the wiki and ingame, we may want to bump that up to a month;
**When you describe signing, you may want to include the text <nowiki>[[File:Sign.png]]</nowiki>, which prints as [[File:Sign.png]], as new users may be unfamiliar with what a "signature button" is;
**You may want to include a link to [[User:DangerReport/DangerCenter]], which is the main place the reports are collated and give a broader view of statuses in Malton;
**I would recommend keeping the pronouns consistent, probably all "you" (rather than "one"). Just a stylistic note.
:Other than that, great job! If these changes are made, I'll definitely change to Support. And I look forward to linking to this guide in new [[Project Welcome]] messages! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


===[[Rat Tactics]]===
Voting closed. With 50% support and 50% Against this guide is '''Not Reviewed'''.~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</sub>
Quick, dirty, effective. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''For'''
===[[Guides:Managing Encumbrance]] (2)===
# --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:50, 30 June 2009 (BST)
Right, so I wrote this guide last year, took it to Deveoping Guides, got some input, made some changes and then brought it here for review. I then got more input and made more changes but people didn't change their votes so it failed by a very small margin (71% in favor). So here we are again. It also passed Featured Articles review unanimously if that makes a difference. Thanks. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
#I don't think it's featured guide worthy, but I can easily vouch for its goodness. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 09:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#But why are those alliance/group categories on the page? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:35 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#:Because it was written by and to a degree for Octapopers and they are part of the SW Alliance? --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#It's clear and to the point. Charming and relevant to survivors when a horde rolls through the suburb. Could use an update about hiding in darkened buildings. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 21:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#If it works, use it --[[User:Supflidowg|Supflidowg]] 16:56, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# I'm a dirty rat --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:27, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
====Support====
# --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 07:19, 1 July 2009 (BST)
# '''For''' If this can be an FA it definitely deserves to be an FG. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:39, 31 August 2012 (BST)
# Yes, please. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 04:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Author vote (why did I not do this last time). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
#I already voted for last time. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 06:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Looks really helpful and insightful.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 14:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Ridiculous. '''For''' --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  15:05, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#:<s>'''Support''' This should be on the featured guides page. [[User:Lpha|Lpha]] 00:14, 10 May 2013 (BST)</s> <small>posted after voting had concluded</small>


====Against====


'''Voting closed''' - With 7 For and 1 Against this guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)
====Abstain====


===[[Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms]]===
'''Passed''' review. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
Guide relating to some Urban Dead - related slang.


'''For'''
===[[Guides:Establishing a Safehouse]]===
# - The only useful thing gaylim's ever made ;) {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)
Don't think I'll ever be used to this change. Anyway since I want this off orphaned pages I might as well suggest it here for some sort of review as an excuse to link it. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
#:I'll point you in the direction of [[Civility|this guide]].--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:09, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::You didn't write that, I could tell cause theres no ugly ALIM bar on the top. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 10:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::Then it's doing its job nicely.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 10:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::::I actually have absolutely no idea about what you mean here. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::::Oh sorry I was talking about how effective the ALiM navbar is at illustrating whether or not a page has been or is a project of my group. Pages that bear the navbar are more than likely [[2 Cool]] projects whilst pages not bearing the navbar are more than likely not.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::::::kkk {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 11:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::::::::Also he was telling you to keep a civil tongue. ALiM created you, it can just as easily destroy you.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::::::::Don't you dare say such untruth. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 14:18, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# As above {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - The sheer size and detail of this article should be merit enough.  Also it's funny. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Giles. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 17:07, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - Funny, useful, it's good.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - As above. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I'm fond of this one.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Pity it got put in a group subpage location, and was defaced with the irrelevant ALiM "definition" and eyesore of a navbar <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:33 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#:That definition was substantially reduced following a scruple with bobby. It used to be a synonym for cool, for [[2 Cool|some]] it still is.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Recognizes the difference between a noob and a newb, which is important. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 18:49, 1 July 2009 (BST)
#...useful --[[User:Supflidowg|Supflidowg]] 17:06, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# I'd never vote against a [[ALiM]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:29, 4 July 2009 (BST)
#:<nowiki>*</nowiki>an --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:39, 7 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
===[[Guides/New_Player%27s_Guide]]===
# Incomplete. Amend it and I'll vote keep --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
I haven't had any feedback in discussion, so here goes!
#:I'm intrigued, what do you think it needs more of? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::More T&A! ... erm ... letters, acronyms and jargon. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 13:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::Time and attendance? --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)


'''Abstain'''
I think that the Urban Dead interface is not that confusing, but new players '''can''' have trouble figuring out good strategies.  I don't want new players to get frustrated by wasted AP (that seem to take forever to recharge), or struggling for a long time to get XP for those first few skills.  This guide aims to offer new players everything they need if they don't want the fun of figuring it out for themselves, with explanations organized by concise bullet points so they don't get confused by excessive information.
# - It's not really a guide so much as a useful list of commonly used terms. Knowing any of the terms in the guide don't necessarily make you any more prepared to play UD. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:45, 3 July 2009 (BST)


Also, a lot of players get soured on playing as a zombie due to dying early on without much XP and being pretty much useless until they are revived.  I offer a little encouragement to try it in the proper context, hoping to grow tomorrow's crop of zombies.  You'll notice right now there's a real population shortage, only 30% zombies including the Mrh-cows, so I hope you don't mind a pro-zombie player posting! -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


'''Voting closed''' - With 12 For, 1 Against and 1 Abstain this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)


===[[Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms/Suburb Nicknames]]===
====Support====
As above


'''For'''
====Against====
#'Be a local anywhere in Malton'--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:14, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#It's a well written guide, but all of this is already covered in swier's [[First Day in Malton]] guide among others. Check out [[:Category:Guides]] for a list of all guides. I'm sure this guide has merit on its own but not enough to be considered featured. Perhaps if you spruce it up and include something not found in other guides, you can bring it back for review. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:Thank you!  Swier's guide focuses largely on explaining mechanics, is more general, and is longer.  My goal for this guide is definitely not to present any unique information, it is to provide a concise (8 steps, really) "walkthrough" (a clearly designated strategy that is highly effective for leveling).  I hope, with improvements, I can get a walkthrough added to Guides! -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
#Not much new information. Poorly formatted and structured (no true section headers, no internal links, solely running text). This is going to need some polish, and even then, it needs to compete with a lot of guides with a similar focus like [[First Day in Malton]] or [[Guides:Harmanz]]. I'd recommend you to withdraw this for now and go to [[Developing Guides]] first. There more experienced users like me could at least help you to get it properly formatted. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
#:It is in Developing Guides, that's what I meant by no feedback yet.  Now it's getting attention, hooray!  This is my first webpage thingy and internal links are a very good idea, thank you.  That table of contents/links Swier's has is pretty snazzy.  My original goal was to make it concise enough that headers and table of contents were unnecessary, but that's probably not practical, and I should at least incorporate a table of contents. -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


'''Against'''
====Abstain====
#Useless as a guide. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Funny, but not a guide. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Anal sex --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 14:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#I'm voting against because the [[Amusing Locations in Malton/Urban Dead Colloquialisms]] is a more useful starting page and the template includes links to all the other relevant information. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:31, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#It's a wee bit useless as a guide.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Awesome, but not a guide. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:43, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Not amused.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 09:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Limited real information... or humor, value <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:31 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#:but its got the naavbaaarrrrr......--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 13:26, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#As WanYao--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 23:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Apart from now. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:30, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)


With zero fors and two againsts, the guide has been '''rejected'''. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 23:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


'''Voting closed''' - With 1 For and 11 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with '''50% or less support''' and will be removed from [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:48, 8 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Guides:AP Efficiency]]===
Here we go. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 14:04, 21 April 2011 (BST)


===[[Guides:First Day in Malton]]===
====Support====
Collection of information that's relevant to newer players


'''For'''
====Against====
# - It's a [[UDWiki:Featured Articles/Good Articles|GA]], enough said. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 07:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Needs much work still.
# {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Guides shouldn't suggest Extensions as a primary part of the guide. Make a separate section for extensions that improve AP Efficiency.
# One of the better gameplay guides out there. It was useful to me when starting out. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:05, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Guides shouldn't suggest [[Death Culting|vari]][[Parachuting|ant]] [[ZK|play]] [[PK|styles]] to further primary [[Zombie|play]] [[Survivor|styles]]. Make a section for those and refer to them there.
# - Excellent guide, recommended.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Keep in mind most players [[Dual Nature|play as they lay]].
# - But of course. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Until some of these things make more sense, it has been linked up, and it actually presents itself in a manner that's easy to follow I'm gonna say it should probably go back to the [[Developing Guides|drawing board]]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:25, 21 April 2011 (BST)
# - Short, sweet and not dated. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:28, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Cleaning Defiled Graffiti doesn't even '''''cost''''' AP... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA_nV1NAfTs|Geez, Kevan goes out of his way to suck Pro-Survivor dick and you guys don't even notice.]{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>15:07 21 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
# - Very helpful. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:And I quote from my guide-" '''Cleaning bloodstains or defiled graffiti is a last priority''' - (Currently, cleaning defiled graffiti takes no AP, but that may change in the future) As mentioned above, there is no place for hypochondria in the zombie apocalypse. Removing bloodstains and graffiti defiling is pretty damn useless on the grand scale of things." Congrats, ZL, you've win a prize for reading comp.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 19:51, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#Now ''this'' is a beginners guide <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:27 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#::Yeah I didn't even get that far, because I ''comprehended'' much earlier...that this guide blows goats. I see you've already modified your little opening list so...you're welcome.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>20:13 21 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
# - It was very helpful to me once and I regularly recommend it to new players. [[User:Jimaine Dunwich|Jimaine Dunwich]] 16:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:::How awesome! I've always wanted to write a guide that blows goats despite being digital. Does it blow digi-goats?--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 20:32, 21 April 2011 (BST)
# - A very good guide --[[User:Supflidowg|Supflidowg]] 17:14, 3 July 2009 (BST)
#Right. You've completely missed out on the benefits of zombies sleeping in dark buildings which is triply useful. No mention of combat reviving, and youve failed to cover the most ap efficient thing a survivor can do, namely run a [[RP]]. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 20:14, 21 April 2011 (BST)
# - Great for new folks. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:42, 3 July 2009 (BST)
#::Added RP and CRing, but I don't really get the dark buildings deal. Can you explain it to me?--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 20:34, 21 April 2011 (BST)
# As bonghit --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:30, 4 July 2009 (BST)
#:::A zombie in a dark building is less likely to be headshot, so you save ap. In addition to this a zombie in a dark building cannot be dumped or even seen as a corpse until the building is powered, so you're less likely to be removed unless by concerted effort. Finally, even combat revives are less effective in the dark.--[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 20:46, 21 April 2011 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#::::Noted and added. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 21:00, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::::I think you've missed the point of opening a rp. Its about increasing survivor ap.--[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 21:15, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::::::Ohhhhh, I get it now.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 21:18, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Also stylistically, Id put basic tips first, you even start the topic with "first things first." Put that at the top. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 13:13, 22 April 2011 (BST)


'''Against'''
====Abstain====
# but it is nice if you want to use it.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:13, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Hence its usefulness as a guide, people that need help look for it and find it here. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 16:55, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::I was voting on its merit, starting as a zombie, you MUST follow the groan you first here on your first day in Malton, There could be a chance of the doors being closed, The guide is not fully complete, therefor it should not be presented ahead of somthing that could be better.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 00:16, 8 July 2009 (BST)
#Survivor biased crap. One third of the minuscule space provided for Zombies is actually about how to become a Survivor again?! Garbage Guide.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>00:41 8 July 2009</tt>


With zero for votes and three againsts, the guide has been '''rejected'''. Feel free to resubmit after overhauling it. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 03:45, 7 May 2011 (BST)


'''Voting closed''' - With 13 For and 2 Against this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Guides:Managing Encumbrance]]===
Thanks. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>05:38, 26 March 2011</sub>
====Support====


===[[Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead]]===
#Formatting could use some tweaking- there are too many headers here, which makes the guide a bit intimidating. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong with it- it's thorough, clear and interesting. Great work, Vapor. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 09:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
As above
#Not bad. Would agree there may be too many headings - and the idea of 'Base 8, Base 10, etc' was confusing at first and could be made a little clearer. Yes there's a little work that could be done to it but these are small edits for what seems to be a good guide. --[[User:Neko|Neko]] 18:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Thorougly done. [[User:Smyg|Smyg]] 18:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Nice. I like that you included the section on Zombies as well. Probably would have been overlooked by most.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>23:04 26 March 2011(UTC)</tt>
#Had nearly forgotten to vote. So, yeah, another good example of what [[Developing Guides]] can accomplish in polishing a guide. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:50, 30 March 2011 (BST)
#:I wish I had gotten a bit more feedback on Developing Guides actually. Most of the feedback I've received is either on the guide talk page while I was working on it and here on [[Guides/Review]]. I chalk it up to few people with DG on their watchlist. What's the policy of making changes to a guide while it is up on review by the way. I need to make some changes but obviously it could null some votes if I did so. See below and the talk page. I pretty much need to do an overhaul on the section headers. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>14:33, 30 March 2011</sub>
#::Minor alterations based on G/R input have often been done (as [[Guides/Review/Archive/2#Abstain_3|here]] or [[Guides/Review/Archive/2#Abstain|here]]) and have never led to nullifying. And yeah, DG is sadly a bit underused. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:41, 30 March 2011 (BST)
#:::I've made adjustments. I suppose they could be considered minor. I didn't change any of the content, just the presentation. Hopefully makes it easier to read. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>18:51, 30 March 2011</sub>


'''For'''
====Against====
# It's a detailed guide but it has become dated (doesn't include any information about ruin).  Also it should be renamed "A Beginning Survivor's Guide to Urban Dead"With a few small changes it would be totally boss. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:09, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Against, for formatting and clarity.  It's interesting, well researched, and while it makes some suggestions that I don't agree with (like advising survivors against carrying "just in case" items like a tool box) I mostly like the basic contentMany sections could be merged or substantially simplified, though, and that would make it a lot easier- and more pleasant- to read and understandI'll leave some specific examples on the guide's talk page. --[[User:Father Thompson|<span style="color: Black">FT</span>]] 15:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
# As Giles - It's a bit outdated, but with some touching up should be great. It just needs some updating. Besides that, it's fine.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:Thanks for providing such thorough input. I will be implementing some of your suggestions. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>20:43, 26 March 2011</sub>
# Good guide, but yeah, could do with some updating. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:03, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# The tables are confusing and get redundant quickly. There's a mention that base encumberence should be no more than 22%, but no explanation of why, and no mention of what might ''be'' said base encumberance, which is a pretty big gap for an encumberance guide. It feels like it's still being written.--{{User:Rachel_Akebre/signature}} 01:56, 3 April 2011 (BST)
# I'm all for it, but it's my guide. Thanks be to whomever nominated it. Like [[User:DanceDanceRevolution|DDR]] states below, it's a great portal for all the new comers. What those below are missing is the fact that that was what it was supposed to be: a one stop shopper; so to speak... -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 23:07, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# Needs updated, but still better than that stupidly biased "First Day in Malton" Guide.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>00:51 8 July 2009</tt>


'''Against'''
====Abstain====
# I say make an entirely new one. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Appears to be kind of a compilation of the various wiki entries. Offers no real insight into playing that isn't found elsewhere. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:30, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Far too long, invoking the TL;DR syndrome in newbs. Most of it looks like straight cut'n'pastes from other pages. The effort needs to be put in tailoring this info so that the main points are explained with links to the in depth look at each section that are already elsewhere on the wiki <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:24 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#It's a nice portal for all the newbie info, but for that reason, it is daunting and I expect noobs to be able to just search for this info themselves (the parts they specifically want, anyway). {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:38, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I'd prefer we have fewer guides and consolidate all info in one place. I like the above Guide better. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)


With an approval rate of ~71%, this guide has been successfully '''reviewed'''. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)


'''Voting closed''' - With 5 For and 5 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with '''50% or less support''' and will be removed from [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)
''Please check the [[Guides/Review/Archive|archive]] for older nominations''
 
===[[Guides:So you're on the wrong side]]===
Relating to changing sides (ie: getting a revive, or window diving.)
 
'''For'''
# Sure, it's short, but it covers an aspect which new players will want to find help on quickly, so it gets a For from me.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Drawde --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:31, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I do like this, it's straight to the point and accurately covers necessary steps to achieve the desired goal. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 08:51, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Needs to be said <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:20 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
# Useful but it's so short it feels like it should be an addendum or subsection of a more extensive guides above, such as "first day in malton".  Maybe this could be included in another guide.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:12, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# - I'm actually with Giles on this one.  Add it as another section in the First Day in Malton guide and credit both authors. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:44, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# Add it to a real guide.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>00:53 8 July 2009</tt>
 
'''Abstain'''
# Throw this info into the newbies guide to malton and the playing as a zombie guide. Or keep it, i'm not that fussed.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 17:22, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 17:56, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:loooooooooooooooooooooooool.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 18:02, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#::haha, i ment to put against but whatever.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:08, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:::s'all good. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 5 For, 3 Against and 2 Abstain this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 50% support''' and will remain on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Guides:Beyond average damage]]===
Guide relating to thinking about combat more tactically
 
'''For'''
# Introduces and explains some useful ideas.  As an older guide it doesn't include information on darkened buildings or the flare gun/fuel can combo attack.  Nothing a little updated section can't fix. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:18, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Excellent for basic combat, just needs slight updating.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As above --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Needs an update but it's a well researched and written guide.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# I found it useful as a newb <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:19 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
# - For those players looking for the crunch and nitty-gritty details on combat, this guide is well researched and explained. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:48, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# Excellent --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:31, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 8 For and 0 Against this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:33, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Making a Successful group]]===
Guide relating to diplomacy and making a group
 
'''For'''
 
'''Against'''
# --[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 09:45, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# It's ironic because the person who made it never made a successful group. --[[User:Saromu|Sonny Corleone]] <sup>[[DORIS]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4 I jizzed in my pants]  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a8pHj7V9k pr0n]</sup> 14:47, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#that guide is fucking awful. Not [[2 Cool]] at all.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 15:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Like many guides advertised to be for both sides this one really only applies to survivors.  And it's not very thorough.  --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:20, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# No fucking way.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As my last vote. Make a new guide, and add successful group leader testimonials. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:but who will write the testimonial for [[2 Cool|Malton's most notoriously successful group]]??--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:49, 7 July 2009 (BST)
# Useless --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:32, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As Haliman. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:10, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Worst. Guide. Ever. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:39, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Yeah. It looks more like a "How to make a successful group in 5 easy steps" program rather than a guide. No wonder it fails. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 17:06, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#As haliman--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 23:17, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# - One or two decent points does not save this guide. I fully support Haliman's idea of a new guide with testimonials. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:53, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# I'm more than happy to completely rewrite this. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:32, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 0 For and 13 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with '''50% or less support''' and will be removed from [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:19, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Guide: Zoe Gorefest's Guide for The Career PKer]]===
Guide relating to player killing
 
'''For'''
# Well - written, and the images complement the guide nicely. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# It could use additional info on darkened buildings (many PKers hide there now) but an overall excellent article.  Also I think the Fallout images should be removed. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:23, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Hell yes--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Drawde --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As Link. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:15, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Still relevant, even though it's author is a long time inactive <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:17 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
# {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:44, 4 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 8 For and 0 Against this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:19, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Guides:Real-Time Fighting]]===
Guide about fighting in real time
 
'''For'''
#It had to be addressed somewhere.  Again, like all of the old guides there needs to be an update on fighting in darkened buildings, but good nonetheless. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:36, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Good guide, as Giles.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# As Giles. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As above --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:34, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Me likey.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:42, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Good guide and very useful, especially to the groups out there who prefer using real-time tactics. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:18, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# - As above. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 21:56, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# As Maverick --Brian <sup>[[User:Brian eetar|Talk to me]]</sup> 13:21, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
#The only practical reason for a survivor to participate in a R/T fight is when defending a building, and this doesn't cover that, ''at all''. And a zombie in a R/T fight is at a real disadvantage (unless the survivor has something to stay and fight for) because he can't follow inside usually <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:14 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#Why participate in real-time fighting outside? If you are XPing, then use your AP killing said opponent till you have no AP/HP then go inside. As zombie, stand there attacking. Otherwise, don't do it. Simple. That's my outisde RT fighting guide. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:47, 30 June 2009 (BST)
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 9 For and 2 Against this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:19, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[The right build for you]]===
Guide about character builds
 
'''For'''
# Good article. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#I do like this. Simply and to the point. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
 
#This is actually a pretty good article.  But the same info is organized in greater detail in [[Guides:Meta-Careers]].--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 06:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:You are against an article because there is a different guide which you think is better? {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:52, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#::"You are against an article because there is a different guide (covering the same subject) which you think is better?" Yes. Why feature multiple articles on the same subject laying out the same info over and over again?  Choose the best and go with it.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 21:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:<s>#New guide. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:33, 30 June 2009 (BST)</s> - Nevermind. [[Guides:Meta-Careers]] --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 02:35, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Doesn't explain/compare the differences between pure killing, and FAKing up. This isn't giving alternative builds, it's telling you what build this guy thinks is best, a private using firearms (and if you don't choose that, then how to make your choice into a firearm specialist) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:08 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 2 For and 3 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with '''50% or less support''' and will be removed from [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:12, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Guide:Siege PKer Guide]]===
Relating to player killing in a siege
 
'''For'''
#The QSG has a clue. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Fresh.  Also the "false infection > kill" section is devious.  --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:34, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#Yep.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:10, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#scrap everything else, this is the only one you need.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:15, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# A classic. Required reading. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:36, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#This is the shiz-nit. --{{User:Rorybob/Sig}}08:01, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#Good <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:57 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:44, 4 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
 
 
'''Voting Closed''' - With 9 For and 0 Against this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 75% support''' and will be placed in the Featured Guides section on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:06, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Zombie Emergency Management Agency/Urban Dead Guide]]===
Another more general guide
 
'''For'''
 
'''Against'''
# The author was a tad clueless, and the guide isn't well - written. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# It contains the same info as [[Guides:A Beginners Guide to Urban Dead]] only less detailed. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:27, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# useless --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:37, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As WanYao. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
 
'''Voting closed''' - With 0 For and 4 Against this guide has failed to pass community review with '''50% or less support''' and will be be removed from [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 01:02, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Civility]]===
Guide about acting nicely towards other people
 
'''For'''
# Needed, and a must-read for those who take the game far too seriously. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 07:38, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Well it's funny, relevant, and it applies to both sides of the game. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:29, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Will always be relevant.--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 18:11, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Always. --[[User:Macampos|Private Mark]] 00:57, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# As Drawde. --{{User:Dr Eddie Ashford/Sig}} 12:13, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Allot of people ought to read it.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 12:16, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Needed for certain people --[[User:Imthatguy|Imthatguy]] 06:22, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#:HEH HEH SUBTLE --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 06:22, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#Some people need to remember civility..so is a good guide--{{User:Alvaromesa/Sig}} 14:28, 7 July 2009 <small>See [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Awrr_-_Don.27t_kill_civility.21|DDR's talk page]] for proof of meatpuppeting.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 22:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#:<small>Unstruck, there are no rules for meatpuppeting. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:50, 7 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#:<small>So bob" you are saing i am a pupet? how old are you?please have respect for other opinions kid..thanks. --{{User:Alvaromesa/Sig}} 23:15, 7 July 2009 (BST)</small>
#::If you'd notice, bob isn't the one signing the strike there. Now I'd appreciate if you'd quit calling me "bob", because I am not him. "Kid".--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 23:20, 7 July 2009 (BST)
# I like it, it's funny. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 19:28, 7 July 2009 (BST)
# Guide enough. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:25, 7 July 2009 (BST)
# I think its a very effective guide. --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:04, 7 July 2009 (BST) <small>See [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Awrr_-_Don.27t_kill_civility.21|DDR's talk page]] for proof of meatpuppeting.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 22:37, 7 July 2009 (BST)
:I am not Meatpupperting, i can vote for whatever i want, Giles did not "shoot me a link" I found this though the recent changes.--{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 22:47, 7 July 2009 (BST)</small>
 
'''Against'''
#Fuck no--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:16, 29 June 2009 (BST)
#:This should be common since. No guide needed for this, just avoid people who act like this.--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 18:28, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Meh. I hate being told how express myself in such rigid terms. I also don't agree with many of the examples, anyway --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# [[2 Cool|Some]] of Malton's most notorious groups lack civility.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:20, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#:Me, me, me... <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#Not a guide. Civility isn't a necessary part of the game, but a policy that players can either choose to either follow or ignore <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 11:50 30 June 2009 (BST)</small>
#Text rape RULES!--{{User:OrangeGaf/Sig}} 23:19, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#I love this page so much but I have to agree with the againsts. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 14:09, 4 July 2009 (BST)
#Civility is not prerequisite, especially in an RPG. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#stupid dross --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 05:19, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#Civility? Ha.--[[User:Lolwat64|Lolwat64]] 23:06, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#:Certified sockpuppet (Not meatpuppet). This is his first contribution.--[[User:MisterGame|Thadeous Oakley]] 23:09, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#::Just leave it be, this has caused enough trouble all ready. --{{User:Michaleson/sig}} 23:11, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#''nay'' --[[User:Hagnat|People's Commissar Hagnat]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hagnat|[talk]]] [[wcdz|[wcdz]]]</sup> 23:24, 7 July 2009 (BST)
#Worthless.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>23:27 7 July 2009</tt>
 
*'''Voting closed''' With 11 For and 11 Against this Guide has failed to pass community review with '''50% or less support''' and will be removed from [[Guides]]. [[User:Whitehouse]] 00:58, 8 July 2009 (BST)
*:Do ho ho.--[[KyleStyle_For_Everything|<font face="Rage italic"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Mr. Angel,</span> ]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 01:01, 8 July 2009 (BST)
 
===[[Guides:Meta-Careers]]===
About the role one plays within the game.
 
'''For'''
#An obsessively organized analysis of the different career paths.  I'm not sure it's useful to new players but it's just loaded with info. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 17:42, 29 June 2009 (BST)
# Yup --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:40, 30 June 2009 (BST)
# Its useful for group building and for organizing your group --[[User:Supflidowg|Supflidowg]] 17:41, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# - Definitely a keeper. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 22:04, 3 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 03:16, 7 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
#I just don't think this guide teaches anyone anything of value. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 09:22, 30 June 2009 (BST)
#The Zombie bit is cool but the Survivor bit is a little silly, it should really be a third the size, at leased. It's teaching survivors that there are many careers, 75% of which are boring and uninspiring. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig}} 15:56, 30 June 2009 (BST)
 
'''Abstain'''
#As DDR, but abstain. The survivor part needs to be simplified. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 03:30, 2 July 2009 (BST)
 
*'''Voting Closed''' With 5 For, 2 Against and 1 Abstain this Guide has passed community review with '''more than 50% support''' and will remain on [[Guides]]. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 00:55, 8 July 2009 (BST)


[[Category:Guides]]
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Latest revision as of 15:03, 10 May 2013

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Guides:Danger Reports Guide

I wrote this guide in order to fill a spot that I felt was lacking: A comprehensive guide to the Danger Report System used throughout the wiki. The system set up really is quite awesome, and a very useful tool, but all the wiki code you have to look at (and also finding the reports!) can be a bit confusing. In addition, such a guide may intrigue new users who planned to just look at a few newbie guides, and then keep them as members of the wiki. Thanks for reading and voting!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quinnr (talkcontribs) 22:51, 1 February 2013.

Support

  1. Changes listed below have been implemented. Great job! Support Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Against

  1. Against, but kind of reluctantly. I think its a good subject, and it is consice and well written, but it is unpolished as a "comprehensive" guide. To be comprehensive, it would need to be more informative. What tips can you provide users for getting info from the game to the wiki (pen and paper, copy/paste, external military reports, etc.)? How do these report affect the various maps on the wiki (Danger Center, Mall Status Map, NT Status Map, etc). What info can be provided about old reports? I'd suggest Developing Guides to help get it there. If left as is, I'd be for reviewed guide but I don't feel its Featured guide material. ~Vsig.png 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Abstain

  • Putting this as an abstain (see above) for the moment, but it's more of a comment/suggested changes. A few things:
    • In the first paragraph of "Reading Reports", you should probably mention that no Danger Reports exist for open blocks (streets etc.);
    • When you ask for people to "change the status to "unknown"", you should probably specify a standard at which the status should be changed. The most common one I've seen is if a status is more than two weeks old, but given the lower activity levels on the wiki and ingame, we may want to bump that up to a month;
    • When you describe signing, you may want to include the text [[File:Sign.png]], which prints as Sign.png, as new users may be unfamiliar with what a "signature button" is;
    • You may want to include a link to User:DangerReport/DangerCenter, which is the main place the reports are collated and give a broader view of statuses in Malton;
    • I would recommend keeping the pronouns consistent, probably all "you" (rather than "one"). Just a stylistic note.
Other than that, great job! If these changes are made, I'll definitely change to Support. And I look forward to linking to this guide in new Project Welcome messages! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Voting closed. With 50% support and 50% Against this guide is Not Reviewed.~Vsig.png 16:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance (2)

Right, so I wrote this guide last year, took it to Deveoping Guides, got some input, made some changes and then brought it here for review. I then got more input and made more changes but people didn't change their votes so it failed by a very small margin (71% in favor). So here we are again. It also passed Featured Articles review unanimously if that makes a difference. Thanks. ~Vsig.png 00:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Support

  1. For If this can be an FA it definitely deserves to be an FG. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:39, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  2. Yes, please. -MHSstaff 04:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  3. Author vote (why did I not do this last time). ~Vsig.png 05:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
  4. I already voted for last time. -- Spiderzed 06:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  5. Looks really helpful and insightful.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  6. Ridiculous. For --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 15:05, 31 August 2012 (BST)
    Support This should be on the featured guides page. Lpha 00:14, 10 May 2013 (BST) posted after voting had concluded

Against

Abstain

Passed review. ~Vsig.png 06:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Guides:Establishing a Safehouse

Don't think I'll ever be used to this change. Anyway since I want this off orphaned pages I might as well suggest it here for some sort of review as an excuse to link it. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 06:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Guides/New_Player's_Guide

I haven't had any feedback in discussion, so here goes!

I think that the Urban Dead interface is not that confusing, but new players can have trouble figuring out good strategies. I don't want new players to get frustrated by wasted AP (that seem to take forever to recharge), or struggling for a long time to get XP for those first few skills. This guide aims to offer new players everything they need if they don't want the fun of figuring it out for themselves, with explanations organized by concise bullet points so they don't get confused by excessive information.

Also, a lot of players get soured on playing as a zombie due to dying early on without much XP and being pretty much useless until they are revived. I offer a little encouragement to try it in the proper context, hoping to grow tomorrow's crop of zombies. You'll notice right now there's a real population shortage, only 30% zombies including the Mrh-cows, so I hope you don't mind a pro-zombie player posting! -Smiles 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


Support

Against

  1. It's a well written guide, but all of this is already covered in swier's First Day in Malton guide among others. Check out Category:Guides for a list of all guides. I'm sure this guide has merit on its own but not enough to be considered featured. Perhaps if you spruce it up and include something not found in other guides, you can bring it back for review. ~Vsig.png 15:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
    Thank you! Swier's guide focuses largely on explaining mechanics, is more general, and is longer. My goal for this guide is definitely not to present any unique information, it is to provide a concise (8 steps, really) "walkthrough" (a clearly designated strategy that is highly effective for leveling). I hope, with improvements, I can get a walkthrough added to Guides! -Smiles 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
  2. Not much new information. Poorly formatted and structured (no true section headers, no internal links, solely running text). This is going to need some polish, and even then, it needs to compete with a lot of guides with a similar focus like First Day in Malton or Guides:Harmanz. I'd recommend you to withdraw this for now and go to Developing Guides first. There more experienced users like me could at least help you to get it properly formatted. -- Spiderzed 15:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
    It is in Developing Guides, that's what I meant by no feedback yet. Now it's getting attention, hooray! This is my first webpage thingy and internal links are a very good idea, thank you. That table of contents/links Swier's has is pretty snazzy. My original goal was to make it concise enough that headers and table of contents were unnecessary, but that's probably not practical, and I should at least incorporate a table of contents. -Smiles 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Abstain

With zero fors and two againsts, the guide has been rejected. -- Spiderzed 23:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Guides:AP Efficiency

Here we go. --Penguinpyro 14:04, 21 April 2011 (BST)

Support

Against

  1. Needs much work still.
    Guides shouldn't suggest Extensions as a primary part of the guide. Make a separate section for extensions that improve AP Efficiency.
    Guides shouldn't suggest variant play styles to further primary play styles. Make a section for those and refer to them there.
    Keep in mind most players play as they lay.
    Until some of these things make more sense, it has been linked up, and it actually presents itself in a manner that's easy to follow I'm gonna say it should probably go back to the drawing board. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:25, 21 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Cleaning Defiled Graffiti doesn't even cost AP... Kevan goes out of his way to suck Pro-Survivor dick and you guys don't even notice.-- | T | BALLS! | 15:07 21 April 2011(UTC)
    And I quote from my guide-" Cleaning bloodstains or defiled graffiti is a last priority - (Currently, cleaning defiled graffiti takes no AP, but that may change in the future) As mentioned above, there is no place for hypochondria in the zombie apocalypse. Removing bloodstains and graffiti defiling is pretty damn useless on the grand scale of things." Congrats, ZL, you've win a prize for reading comp.--Penguinpyro 19:51, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Yeah I didn't even get that far, because I comprehended much earlier...that this guide blows goats. I see you've already modified your little opening list so...you're welcome.-- | T | BALLS! | 20:13 21 April 2011(UTC)
    How awesome! I've always wanted to write a guide that blows goats despite being digital. Does it blow digi-goats?--Penguinpyro 20:32, 21 April 2011 (BST)
  3. Right. You've completely missed out on the benefits of zombies sleeping in dark buildings which is triply useful. No mention of combat reviving, and youve failed to cover the most ap efficient thing a survivor can do, namely run a RP. --Rosslessness 20:14, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Added RP and CRing, but I don't really get the dark buildings deal. Can you explain it to me?--Penguinpyro 20:34, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    A zombie in a dark building is less likely to be headshot, so you save ap. In addition to this a zombie in a dark building cannot be dumped or even seen as a corpse until the building is powered, so you're less likely to be removed unless by concerted effort. Finally, even combat revives are less effective in the dark.--Rosslessness 20:46, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Noted and added. --Penguinpyro 21:00, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    I think you've missed the point of opening a rp. Its about increasing survivor ap.--Rosslessness 21:15, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Ohhhhh, I get it now.--Penguinpyro 21:18, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Also stylistically, Id put basic tips first, you even start the topic with "first things first." Put that at the top. --Rosslessness 13:13, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Abstain

With zero for votes and three againsts, the guide has been rejected. Feel free to resubmit after overhauling it. -- Spiderzed 03:45, 7 May 2011 (BST)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance

Thanks. ~Vsig.png 05:38, 26 March 2011

Support

  1. Formatting could use some tweaking- there are too many headers here, which makes the guide a bit intimidating. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong with it- it's thorough, clear and interesting. Great work, Vapor. --Penguinpyro 09:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  2. Not bad. Would agree there may be too many headings - and the idea of 'Base 8, Base 10, etc' was confusing at first and could be made a little clearer. Yes there's a little work that could be done to it but these are small edits for what seems to be a good guide. --Neko 18:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  3. Thorougly done. Smyg 18:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  4. Nice. I like that you included the section on Zombies as well. Probably would have been overlooked by most.-- | T | BALLS! | 23:04 26 March 2011(UTC)
  5. Had nearly forgotten to vote. So, yeah, another good example of what Developing Guides can accomplish in polishing a guide. -- Spiderzed 13:50, 30 March 2011 (BST)
    I wish I had gotten a bit more feedback on Developing Guides actually. Most of the feedback I've received is either on the guide talk page while I was working on it and here on Guides/Review. I chalk it up to few people with DG on their watchlist. What's the policy of making changes to a guide while it is up on review by the way. I need to make some changes but obviously it could null some votes if I did so. See below and the talk page. I pretty much need to do an overhaul on the section headers. ~Vsig.png 14:33, 30 March 2011
    Minor alterations based on G/R input have often been done (as here or here) and have never led to nullifying. And yeah, DG is sadly a bit underused. -- Spiderzed 14:41, 30 March 2011 (BST)
    I've made adjustments. I suppose they could be considered minor. I didn't change any of the content, just the presentation. Hopefully makes it easier to read. ~Vsig.png 18:51, 30 March 2011

Against

  1. Against, for formatting and clarity. It's interesting, well researched, and while it makes some suggestions that I don't agree with (like advising survivors against carrying "just in case" items like a tool box) I mostly like the basic content. Many sections could be merged or substantially simplified, though, and that would make it a lot easier- and more pleasant- to read and understand. I'll leave some specific examples on the guide's talk page. --FT 15:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks for providing such thorough input. I will be implementing some of your suggestions. ~Vsig.png 20:43, 26 March 2011
  2. The tables are confusing and get redundant quickly. There's a mention that base encumberence should be no more than 22%, but no explanation of why, and no mention of what might be said base encumberance, which is a pretty big gap for an encumberance guide. It feels like it's still being written.--Ryvyoli Y R 01:56, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Abstain

With an approval rate of ~71%, this guide has been successfully reviewed. -- Spiderzed 13:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)

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