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This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that their is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}) and featured guides will have {{[[Template:FeaturedGuide|FeaturedGuide]]}} added to the page. Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.  
This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the [[Guides]] page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that there is a minimum standard of quality on the [[Guides]] page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{[[Template:GuideReviewed|GuideReviewed]]}}) and featured guides will have {{[[Template:FeaturedGuide|FeaturedGuide]]}} added to the page. Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the [[Guides]] page, but may still carry [[[[:Category:Guides]]]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.  


Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
Guides are reviewed through a voting process. There are three eligible votes:
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*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's inclusion on the page  
*'''Against''' - to indicate disapproval for the guide's inclusion on the page  


After one week, the votes will be tallied.  
After two weeks, the votes will be tallied.  
*A guide which has more than 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more than 75% '''Support''' will be placed at a "Featured Guides" section at the top of the guides page
*A guide which has more than 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
*A guide which has more than 50% '''Support''' will be placed on the page, in the appropriate section (survivor, zombie, or player killer.)
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#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Accuracy''' - ''The guide must be accurate''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''
#'''Clarity''' - ''The guide must be easy to read, with no obvious spelling or grammar errors.''
''<big>If you are writing a guide and want feedback before taking it to review, please read the '''[[Developing Guides]]''' page.</big>''


Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.
Please note that neutrality and civility are '''not requirements'''.
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==Voting==
==Voting==
<!---Please add ''There are no guides currently under voting'' when cycling the last guide. --->
<!---Please add ''There are no guides currently under voting'' when cycling the last guide. --->
<!---Please DO NOT add any new guides to this page for now. We plan on doing all the guides over the next few weeks, in lots of about 10-20 at a time. Thanks. ---->
''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''
''Please add'' {{CodeInline|<nowiki>{{Guidesvoting}}</nowiki>}} ''on the guide before nominating it. Please inform the author if they are still active and can easily be found.''


'''[[Talk:Guides#A_few_more_things|Shameless advertising for this discussion]]''' {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:20, 19 July 2009 (BST)
''There are no guides currently under voting''


===[[User:Grim s/Grims guide to staying alive]]===
==Recent Nominations==
'''For'''
#I don't agree with this whole guide, but it's pretty comprehensive. Also a [[GA]]. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:03, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#It's actually useful and the fact that grim firmly stamped his mark on it only makes it more entertaining. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 15:01, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#Boring as hell and one of the few guides that would benefit from being cut in half.  But I'm marginally for because there are enough good sections.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:55, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#Lots of good info to have, but it could use a trimming. --[[User:Kahazul|Kahazul]] 21:32, 31 July 2009 (BST)
 
'''Against'''
#Way way way way ''way'' too self-indulgent. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# The same as above since the guide is often self-centered around that single player. Also the writer is an asshole but that only affects the guide by 98%. [[User:Aka Paradox|Aka Paradox]] 22:23, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#I voted this for [[GA]] because I found it funny and an interested read. Ironically, I couldn't vouch is as a guide. It's too long and >50% of the information is just common sense. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 03:43, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# - Zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Kill it. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:36 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>
'''Abstain'''
 
===[[Lazy Basics]]===
'''For'''
 
'''Against'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# Nothing terribly useful here.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:56, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# --<font face="Georgia"><span style="background-color:#000000; border: 2px #663366 solid ">[[User:MTRemick|<span style="color:White">'''MTRemick'''</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User_talk:MTRemick|<span style="color:Blue">T</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/MTRemick|C]] | [http://fatjewishguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tinafey.jpg Fey] | [http://www.nbc.com NBC]</sup></font> 01:27, 31 July 2009 (BST)
#What they said. --[[User:Kahazul|Kahazul]] 21:32, 31 July 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# - Crap on a plate.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:37 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>
 
'''Abstain'''
 
===[[Dicas Curtas]]===
''Note - the above guide is a translation of [[Lazy Basics]] into Brazilian Portuguese''


'''For'''
===[[Guides:Danger Reports Guide]]===
I wrote this guide in order to fill a spot that I felt was lacking: A comprehensive guide to the Danger Report System used throughout the wiki. The system set up really is quite awesome, and a very useful tool, but all the wiki code you have to look at (and also finding the reports!) can be a bit confusing. In addition, such a guide may intrigue new users who planned to just look at a few newbie guides, and then keep them as members of the wiki. Thanks for reading and voting!


'''Against'''
{{Unsigned|Quinnr|22:51, 1 February 2013}}
#Pointless for the majority of readers on this English wiki. Deserves a link from [[Lazy Basics]], however. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 08:03, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#As Link. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#^^^ --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 23:57, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# - Kill it.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:38 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>


'''Abstain'''
====Support====
#Changes listed below have been implemented. Great job! '''Support''' {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 00:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)


===[[Guides:How to defend a mall]]===
====Against====
'''For'''
#Against, but kind of reluctantly. I think its a good subject, and it is consice and well written, but it is unpolished as a "comprehensive" guide. To be comprehensive, it would need to be more informative. What tips can you provide users for getting info from the game to the wiki (pen and paper, copy/paste, external military reports, etc.)? How do these report affect the various maps on the wiki ([[Danger Center]], [[Mall Status Map]], [[NT Status Map]], etc). What info can be provided about old reports? I'd suggest [[Developing Guides]] to help get it there. If left as is, I'd be for reviewed guide but I don't feel its Featured guide material. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</sub>


'''Against'''
====Abstain====
#The content is okay but it could do with some sexier formatting. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
*Putting this as an <s>'''abstain'''</s> (see above) for the moment, but it's more of a '''comment/suggested changes'''. A few things:
#<s>Pretty good. Not long and boring and the info is actually on target.</s>[[Guides:The_Mall_Defence_Manifesto]] is better. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:10, 31 July 2009 (BST)
**In the first paragraph of "Reading Reports", you should probably mention that no Danger Reports exist for open blocks (streets etc.);
#As Giles. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
**When you ask for people to "change the status to "unknown"", you should probably specify a standard at which the status should be changed. The most common one I've seen is if a status is more than two weeks old, but given the lower activity levels on the wiki and ingame, we may want to bump that up to a month;
# - Junk.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:38 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>
**When you describe signing, you may want to include the text <nowiki>[[File:Sign.png]]</nowiki>, which prints as [[File:Sign.png]], as new users may be unfamiliar with what a "signature button" is;
**You may want to include a link to [[User:DangerReport/DangerCenter]], which is the main place the reports are collated and give a broader view of statuses in Malton;
**I would recommend keeping the pronouns consistent, probably all "you" (rather than "one"). Just a stylistic note.
:Other than that, great job! If these changes are made, I'll definitely change to Support. And I look forward to linking to this guide in new [[Project Welcome]] messages! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


'''Abstain'''
Voting closed. With 50% support and 50% Against this guide is '''Not Reviewed'''.~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>16:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</sub>


===[[Guides:Civilian]]===
===[[Guides:Managing Encumbrance]] (2)===
'''For'''
Right, so I wrote this guide last year, took it to Deveoping Guides, got some input, made some changes and then brought it here for review. I then got more input and made more changes but people didn't change their votes so it failed by a very small margin (71% in favor). So here we are again. It also passed Featured Articles review unanimously if that makes a difference. Thanks. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# Elaborate description, but the cop seems to barely be mentioned, while the consumer takes most of the guide. Other than that, great.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 03:32, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# I actually found this useful. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
# - Long winded anti-RP crap. Too obvious.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:42 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>


'''Abstain'''
====Support====
# '''For''' If this can be an FA it definitely deserves to be an FG. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 01:39, 31 August 2012 (BST)
# Yes, please. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 04:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Author vote (why did I not do this last time). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</sub>
#I already voted for last time. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 06:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Looks really helpful and insightful.--[[User:Shortround|<span style="color:Black">Short</span>]][[User talk:Shortround|<span style="color: Black">round</span>]] }.{ [[Special:Contributions/Shortround|<span style="color:Black">My Contributions</span>]] 14:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#Ridiculous. '''For''' --[[User:Rosslessness|I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, ]][[User talk:Rosslessness|I'm the Ross it deserves.]]  15:05, 31 August 2012 (BST)
#:<s>'''Support''' This should be on the featured guides page. [[User:Lpha|Lpha]] 00:14, 10 May 2013 (BST)</s> <small>posted after voting had concluded</small>


===[[Guides:Scientist]]===
====Against====
'''For'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# --{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 03:35, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# --{{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
# - As Guides:Civilian.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:43 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>


'''Abstain'''
====Abstain====


===[[Guides:Military]]===
'''Passed''' review. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>06:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)</sub>
'''For'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# --<font face="Georgia"><span style="background-color:#000000; border: 2px #663366 solid ">[[User:MTRemick|<span style="color:White">'''MTRemick'''</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User_talk:MTRemick|<span style="color:Blue">T</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/MTRemick|C]] | [http://fatjewishguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tinafey.jpg Fey] | [http://www.nbc.com NBC]</sup></font> 01:27, 31 July 2009 (BST)
#--{{User:Axe27/Sig}} 20:49, 31 July 2009 (BST)
# --{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 03:35, 1 August 2009 (BST)
# --{{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
# - As Guides:Scientist.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>21:44 1 August 2009(BST)</tt>


'''Abstain'''
===[[Guides:Establishing a Safehouse]]===
Don't think I'll ever be used to this change. Anyway since I want this off orphaned pages I might as well suggest it here for some sort of review as an excuse to link it. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 06:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)


===[[Guides:Shelter]]===
===[[Guides/New_Player%27s_Guide]]===
'''For'''
I haven't had any feedback in discussion, so here goes!


'''Against'''
I think that the Urban Dead interface is not that confusing, but new players '''can''' have trouble figuring out good strategies.  I don't want new players to get frustrated by wasted AP (that seem to take forever to recharge), or struggling for a long time to get XP for those first few skills.  This guide aims to offer new players everything they need if they don't want the fun of figuring it out for themselves, with explanations organized by concise bullet points so they don't get confused by excessive information.
#Decent, but could do with a little bit of elaboration on the Pro/Con parts.{{Unsigned|Cyberbob240}}
#As Bob. Could use work. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:23, 1 August 2009 (BST)


'''Abstain'''
Also, a lot of players get soured on playing as a zombie due to dying early on without much XP and being pretty much useless until they are revived.  I offer a little encouragement to try it in the proper context, hoping to grow tomorrow's crop of zombies.  You'll notice right now there's a real population shortage, only 30% zombies including the Mrh-cows, so I hope you don't mind a pro-zombie player posting! -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


===[[Guides:XP]]===
'''For'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:17, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# --{{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:23, 1 August 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
====Support====


'''Abstain'''
====Against====
#It's a well written guide, but all of this is already covered in swier's [[First Day in Malton]] guide among others. Check out [[:Category:Guides]] for a list of all guides. I'm sure this guide has merit on its own but not enough to be considered featured. Perhaps if you spruce it up and include something not found in other guides, you can bring it back for review. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>15:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)</sub>
#:Thank you!  Swier's guide focuses largely on explaining mechanics, is more general, and is longer.  My goal for this guide is definitely not to present any unique information, it is to provide a concise (8 steps, really) "walkthrough" (a clearly designated strategy that is highly effective for leveling).  I hope, with improvements, I can get a walkthrough added to Guides! -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
#Not much new information. Poorly formatted and structured (no true section headers, no internal links, solely running text). This is going to need some polish, and even then, it needs to compete with a lot of guides with a similar focus like [[First Day in Malton]] or [[Guides:Harmanz]]. I'd recommend you to withdraw this for now and go to [[Developing Guides]] first. There more experienced users like me could at least help you to get it properly formatted. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 15:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
#:It is in Developing Guides, that's what I meant by no feedback yet.  Now it's getting attention, hooray!  This is my first webpage thingy and internal links are a very good idea, thank you.  That table of contents/links Swier's has is pretty snazzy.  My original goal was to make it concise enough that headers and table of contents were unnecessary, but that's probably not practical, and I should at least incorporate a table of contents. -[[User:Smiles|Smiles]] 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


===[[Guides:Scouting]]===
====Abstain====
'''For'''


'''Against'''
With zero fors and two againsts, the guide has been '''rejected'''. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 23:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
#Possibly some room for a section dealing with Ruins? --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#Good guide, but what Bob suggested is blatantly lacking in the guide. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)


'''Abstain'''
===[[Guides:AP Efficiency]]===
Here we go. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 14:04, 21 April 2011 (BST)


===[[Guides:The Mall Defence Manifesto]]===
====Support====
'''For'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# Needs an update for barricading change and FAK search rate nerf to malls but an excellent, well written guide.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:26, 31 July 2009 (BST)
# Giles said it. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
====Against====
#Needs much work still.
#:Guides shouldn't suggest Extensions as a primary part of the guide. Make a separate section for extensions that improve AP Efficiency.
#:Guides shouldn't suggest [[Death Culting|vari]][[Parachuting|ant]] [[ZK|play]] [[PK|styles]] to further primary [[Zombie|play]] [[Survivor|styles]]. Make a section for those and refer to them there.
#:Keep in mind most players [[Dual Nature|play as they lay]].
#:Until some of these things make more sense, it has been linked up, and it actually presents itself in a manner that's easy to follow I'm gonna say it should probably go back to the [[Developing Guides|drawing board]]. --<small>[[User:Karek#K|Karek]]<sup><font face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Karek/ProjDev#Buildings_Update_Danger_Maps|maps 2.0?!]]</font></sup></small> 14:25, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#Cleaning Defiled Graffiti doesn't even '''''cost''''' AP... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA_nV1NAfTs|Geez, Kevan goes out of his way to suck Pro-Survivor dick and you guys don't even notice.]{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>15:07 21 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
#:And I quote from my guide-" '''Cleaning bloodstains or defiled graffiti is a last priority''' - (Currently, cleaning defiled graffiti takes no AP, but that may change in the future) As mentioned above, there is no place for hypochondria in the zombie apocalypse. Removing bloodstains and graffiti defiling is pretty damn useless on the grand scale of things." Congrats, ZL, you've win a prize for reading comp.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 19:51, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::Yeah I didn't even get that far, because I ''comprehended'' much earlier...that this guide blows goats. I see you've already modified your little opening list so...you're welcome.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>20:13 21 April 2011(UTC)</tt>
#:::How awesome! I've always wanted to write a guide that blows goats despite being digital. Does it blow digi-goats?--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 20:32, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#Right. You've completely missed out on the benefits of zombies sleeping in dark buildings which is triply useful. No mention of combat reviving, and youve failed to cover the most ap efficient thing a survivor can do, namely run a [[RP]]. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 20:14, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::Added RP and CRing, but I don't really get the dark buildings deal. Can you explain it to me?--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 20:34, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::A zombie in a dark building is less likely to be headshot, so you save ap. In addition to this a zombie in a dark building cannot be dumped or even seen as a corpse until the building is powered, so you're less likely to be removed unless by concerted effort. Finally, even combat revives are less effective in the dark.--[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 20:46, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::::Noted and added. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 21:00, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::::I think you've missed the point of opening a rp. Its about increasing survivor ap.--[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 21:15, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#::::::Ohhhhh, I get it now.--[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 21:18, 21 April 2011 (BST)
#:::::::Also stylistically, Id put basic tips first, you even start the topic with "first things first." Put that at the top. --[[User:Rosslessness|Rosslessness]] 13:13, 22 April 2011 (BST)


'''Abstain'''
====Abstain====


===[[Guides:Lone Survivor]]===
With zero for votes and three againsts, the guide has been '''rejected'''. Feel free to resubmit after overhauling it. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"></span>]]</span>''' 03:45, 7 May 2011 (BST)
'''For'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# --<font face="Georgia"><span style="background-color:#000000; border: 2px #663366 solid ">[[User:MTRemick|<span style="color:White">'''MTRemick'''</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User_talk:MTRemick|<span style="color:Blue">T</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/MTRemick|C]] | [http://fatjewishguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/tinafey.jpg Fey] | [http://www.nbc.com NBC]</sup></font> 01:27, 31 July 2009 (BST)
# --{{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)


'''Against'''
===[[Guides:Managing Encumbrance]]===
Thanks. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>05:38, 26 March 2011</sub>
====Support====


'''Abstain'''
#Formatting could use some tweaking- there are too many headers here, which makes the guide a bit intimidating. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong with it- it's thorough, clear and interesting. Great work, Vapor. --[[User:Penguinpyro|Penguinpyro]] 09:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Not bad. Would agree there may be too many headings - and the idea of 'Base 8, Base 10, etc' was confusing at first and could be made a little clearer. Yes there's a little work that could be done to it but these are small edits for what seems to be a good guide. --[[User:Neko|Neko]] 18:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Thorougly done. [[User:Smyg|Smyg]] 18:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#Nice. I like that you included the section on Zombies as well. Probably would have been overlooked by most.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>23:04 26 March 2011(UTC)</tt>
#Had nearly forgotten to vote. So, yeah, another good example of what [[Developing Guides]] can accomplish in polishing a guide. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:50, 30 March 2011 (BST)
#:I wish I had gotten a bit more feedback on Developing Guides actually. Most of the feedback I've received is either on the guide talk page while I was working on it and here on [[Guides/Review]]. I chalk it up to few people with DG on their watchlist. What's the policy of making changes to a guide while it is up on review by the way. I need to make some changes but obviously it could null some votes if I did so. See below and the talk page. I pretty much need to do an overhaul on the section headers. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>14:33, 30 March 2011</sub>
#::Minor alterations based on G/R input have often been done (as [[Guides/Review/Archive/2#Abstain_3|here]] or [[Guides/Review/Archive/2#Abstain|here]]) and have never led to nullifying. And yeah, DG is sadly a bit underused. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 14:41, 30 March 2011 (BST)
#:::I've made adjustments. I suppose they could be considered minor. I didn't change any of the content, just the presentation. Hopefully makes it easier to read. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>18:51, 30 March 2011</sub>


===[[Guides:Ranged vs. Melee Weapon Efficiency]]===
====Against====
'''For'''
# Against, for formatting and clarity.  It's interesting, well researched, and while it makes some suggestions that I don't agree with (like advising survivors against carrying "just in case" items like a tool box) I mostly like the basic content.  Many sections could be merged or substantially simplified, though, and that would make it a lot easier- and more pleasant- to read and understand.  I'll leave some specific examples on the guide's talk page. --[[User:Father Thompson|<span style="color: Black">FT</span>]] 15:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
#:Thanks for providing such thorough input. I will be implementing some of your suggestions. {{User:Vapor/sig}} <sub>20:43, 26 March 2011</sub>
# The tables are confusing and get redundant quickly. There's a mention that base encumberence should be no more than 22%, but no explanation of why, and no mention of what might ''be'' said base encumberance, which is a pretty big gap for an encumberance guide. It feels like it's still being written.--{{User:Rachel_Akebre/signature}} 01:56, 3 April 2011 (BST)


'''Against'''
====Abstain====
#Needs to be dumbed down. A lot. The calculations and obscure tables should be secondary. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
#WTF -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)


'''Abstain'''
With an approval rate of ~71%, this guide has been successfully '''reviewed'''. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)


===[[Guides:Survivor Metagame]]===
'''For'''
#It's brief but says what it needs to without beating around the bush. --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#Useless really. It's mostly common sense. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
'''Abstain'''
===[[Guides:Survivor Skills]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 08:21, 30 July 2009 (BST)
# Needs far too much work. In it's current state it is absolutely useless. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 21:20, 1 August 2009 (BST)
'''Abstain'''
==Recent Nominations==
''Please check the [[Guides/Review/Archive|archive]] for older nominations''
''Please check the [[Guides/Review/Archive|archive]] for older nominations''
===[[Guides:The Zombie Lexicon]]===
'''For'''
#Helpful for anyone that is new to death rattle or can't quite figure out a word. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 14:28, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#As Johnny, but as Jed too. It needs an amended version for more day-to-day zombie words. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:30, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Fresh.  If everyone familiarized themselves with the material and had this common reference point zombie communication would be quite effective.  Also i agree it could use a little facelift. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 16:28, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#I have used this so much, it's not even funny. It's incredibly useful. Did I mention it's useful? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 17:45, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#Useful --<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span> [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 12:25, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#  I found it very clear and useful --[[User:Supflidowg|Supflidowg]] 18:57, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#Scary. Who wasted their life on this crap? Would be irresponsible to encourage anyone else to waste their life reading/learning this rot.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>13:57 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#While it is impressive and worth a casual read, anyone who thinks your average zombie (or even a super intelligent one) would understand half this crap is going to be wasting ap with nonsensical commands. --{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:05, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#As J3D. Would be better if a concise version were created. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 15:05, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#--[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:29, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''61.5%'''. This guide will remain on Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Guides:The Zombie Lexicon/Zombie Song Lyrics]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
#Jesus Christ, even more useless than the first Lexicon. Seriously, people, go outside once and awhile.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:00 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#Fun, but ultimate pointless. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:31, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Doesn't really help the reader much. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 15:09, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#It's hilarious and I'd love to give a link to "have a good time" by queen.  More of a humorous article than a guide though.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 16:29, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# Humorous, not really a guide-guide. Well, maybe for RPing. A little. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#Good, as a subpage of zombie lexicon --<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span> [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 12:25, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#--[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:29, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''0%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Guides:Fast Zombie Builds]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
#Good God, some of you really know how to suck the life out of ANYTHING. ''Play'' a game, don't follow boring, dry formulas. Fuck's sake.{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:06 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Shitty build path IMO. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 14:55, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Most of the info here is also present in [[Guides:Zombie]].  And the section on starting as a human isn't very comprehensive.  --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:17, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#--[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:30, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''0%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Guides:Zombie Metagame]]===
'''For'''
#Keep, but needs expansion. Also, I don't quite get what Zombie Lord's got against the metagame. It's what turns UD from just another random browser game to having an active, organized community. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:33, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Short, sweet and to the point.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:22, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#--[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:32, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#'''Kill this weak-minded play-style with fire! Up with individual zombie power, down with the fuckin lame ass HIVE MIND!''' {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:10 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#Unless the article gets revised to reflect the current meta community better (barhah.com being the main hub for most zombie groups) and removing most the the last half of the article, I don't see much value in this rather outdated article. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 14:36, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
'''37.5%'''. This guide will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[X:00]]===
'''For'''
#I've always liked groups/guides/ideas that think outside the UD box.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 12:32, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#As Jed. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 14:14, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Good article, current activities needs revision to remove MT'07 as being "current." --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 14:38, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#A helpful article. Good idea too. -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#One of the better tactics out there and a well written guide explaining that tactic. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:23, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# I think this is one of the better tactics on this wiki -- [[User:Cwissball|'''Cwissball''']] <sup>[[Player Killer|PKer]]</sup> / [[User:Cwissball|'''Cwissb''']] <sup>[[Dual Nature Policy|Dual Nature]]</sup> 00:01, 17 July 2009 (BST)
# --<span style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 80%">&hearts;</span> [[User:MoonShine|<span style="color:Black">'''Moonie'''</span>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:MoonShine|Talk]] | [[User:MoonShine/Testimonials|Testimonials]]</sup></small> 12:25, 17 July 2009 (BST)
#The useful part of Swier's legacy lives on. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:32, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#Meh. This is ok, I suppose, considering the game rules are so broken right now. The need for Tactics like this are part of what's wrong with the "game".{{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:13 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
'''91%'''. This page will become a Featured Guide. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[User:Siddhant/Guide:The Zombie Returns]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
#Another shitty formula guide. Why even play a game if you're going to do this? {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:15 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#This is actually a very well considered article.  I like the mention of junkyard and church selection and the emphasis on upgrading claw attacks. However it falls a little short as a complete guide on a very broad subject. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:38, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#I was going to vote yes on this for a joke but it was just way too shit. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:34, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''0%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Pillaging]]===
'''For'''
#Not a bad general zambah guide. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 14:46, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#About as good as [[Guides:Zombie]] with some alternate considerations such as when to use feeding groan.  Good reading. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:43, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#--[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:35, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#More formula/Metagaming bullshit. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:17 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
'''71%'''. This page will remain on Guides article. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Guides: The Zombie Vulture]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
#Sigh. More formula crap. What happened to imagination? Video Games kill it all? I weep for this generation. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:19 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#An interesting idea but it feels incomplete.  I'd like to see a more thorough and fully realized evaluation of leeching off of higher level zombies. --{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:44, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
'''0%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Annoy the Harmanz]]===
'''For'''
#General advice. Not too horrible. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:21 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
'''Against'''
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# Basically just gives a brief summary of how this one person likes to play the game. Not terribly useful as such.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:49, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#As Giles, it does have some good points, however. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 09:41, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#General advice. Horrible. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:37, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''16%'''. This article will be removed from Guides page. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[How to win Mall Siege (Zombie)]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
#Pretty obvious stuff. Not really guide worthy. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:23 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#A pretty piss poor guide for mall sieges. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 15:02, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Yeh this just isn't detailed enough to be a guide.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:51, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#These guides just get shitter and shitter. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:41, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''0%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[A Quick Zombie Guide]]===
'''For'''
'''Against'''
#Lame. Kill it. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:24 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Terrible guide. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 15:03, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#It's not detailed enough to be useful.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 03:52, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
#--[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<span style="color:black"><u><big>ϑϑℜ</big></u></span>]] 10:41, 20 July 2009 (BST)
'''0%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Selective Targeting]]===
'''For'''
#A good start for the article, but it definitely needs to be properly expanded on. I might do that later if I get around to it. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 14:57, 15 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#Kill with fire. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:25 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#Expand it, and then re-submit it for review. :P --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#As Papa Johnny and BobBoberton.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 06:43, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
'''17%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Claw for Grasp, Bite for Threes]]===
'''For'''
#Not bad. --[[User:Johnny Bass|Papa Johnny]] 15:00, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
# Swing vote--[[User:Bonghit420|Bonghit420]] 07:20, 17 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#In the real world, math wins. But this is Urban Dead with its lame ass broken RNG. While this would totally make sense with a real numbers generator, it's worthless as far as it "applies" to UD's RNG. {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:28 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#-- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
#A very nice idea and well reasoned update, but it feels like this could be folded into the beyond average damage guide.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 06:45, 16 July 2009 (BST)
'''57%'''. This page will remain on Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)
===[[Getting Started as a Feral Zombie]]===
'''For'''
#Not horrible. Needs updating. Best guide in the whole lot so far for this go around. (That's not saying much though) {{User:Zombie Lord/sig2}} <tt>14:31 15 July 2009(BST)</tt>
#I'd love to vote against this just because you are being so obnoxious ZL, but it really is an excellent guide.  Needs a tiny update because of new diagnosis abilities.--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 06:48, 16 July 2009 (BST)
'''Against'''
#The only one ZL voted for. ;)--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 14:36, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# -- {{User:BlackReaper/sig}} 14:59, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' 17:58, 15 July 2009 (BST)
# --[[User:Cyberbob240|Cyberbob]] 09:39, 16 July 2009 (BST)
'''33%'''. This page will be removed from Guides. --[[User:DanceDanceRevolution|<big><u><span style="color:DarkSlateGray">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkBlue ">ϑ</span><span style="color:DarkSlateBlue">ℜ</span></u></big>]] 15:24, 28 July 2009 (BST)


[[Category:Guides]]
[[Category:Guides]]

Latest revision as of 15:03, 10 May 2013

This page is for the community review of new guides. This is so the Guides page does not get filled up with nonsensical guides (like it was at one point,) and that there is a minimum standard of quality on the Guides page. Guides which pass this review have a template added to the page ({{GuideReviewed}}) and featured guides will have {{FeaturedGuide}} added to the page. Guides which do not pass a community review will not be added to the Guides page, but may still carry [[Category:Guides]]. This is so that guides that are deemed good and worthy by the community are easily findable by newer players, while less accurate guides can still be found, but aren't presented as prominently.

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Guides:Danger Reports Guide

I wrote this guide in order to fill a spot that I felt was lacking: A comprehensive guide to the Danger Report System used throughout the wiki. The system set up really is quite awesome, and a very useful tool, but all the wiki code you have to look at (and also finding the reports!) can be a bit confusing. In addition, such a guide may intrigue new users who planned to just look at a few newbie guides, and then keep them as members of the wiki. Thanks for reading and voting!

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Quinnr (talkcontribs) 22:51, 1 February 2013.

Support

  1. Changes listed below have been implemented. Great job! Support Bob Moncrief EBDW! 00:10, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Against

  1. Against, but kind of reluctantly. I think its a good subject, and it is consice and well written, but it is unpolished as a "comprehensive" guide. To be comprehensive, it would need to be more informative. What tips can you provide users for getting info from the game to the wiki (pen and paper, copy/paste, external military reports, etc.)? How do these report affect the various maps on the wiki (Danger Center, Mall Status Map, NT Status Map, etc). What info can be provided about old reports? I'd suggest Developing Guides to help get it there. If left as is, I'd be for reviewed guide but I don't feel its Featured guide material. ~Vsig.png 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Abstain

  • Putting this as an abstain (see above) for the moment, but it's more of a comment/suggested changes. A few things:
    • In the first paragraph of "Reading Reports", you should probably mention that no Danger Reports exist for open blocks (streets etc.);
    • When you ask for people to "change the status to "unknown"", you should probably specify a standard at which the status should be changed. The most common one I've seen is if a status is more than two weeks old, but given the lower activity levels on the wiki and ingame, we may want to bump that up to a month;
    • When you describe signing, you may want to include the text [[File:Sign.png]], which prints as Sign.png, as new users may be unfamiliar with what a "signature button" is;
    • You may want to include a link to User:DangerReport/DangerCenter, which is the main place the reports are collated and give a broader view of statuses in Malton;
    • I would recommend keeping the pronouns consistent, probably all "you" (rather than "one"). Just a stylistic note.
Other than that, great job! If these changes are made, I'll definitely change to Support. And I look forward to linking to this guide in new Project Welcome messages! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 19:08, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Voting closed. With 50% support and 50% Against this guide is Not Reviewed.~Vsig.png 16:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance (2)

Right, so I wrote this guide last year, took it to Deveoping Guides, got some input, made some changes and then brought it here for review. I then got more input and made more changes but people didn't change their votes so it failed by a very small margin (71% in favor). So here we are again. It also passed Featured Articles review unanimously if that makes a difference. Thanks. ~Vsig.png 00:30, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Support

  1. For If this can be an FA it definitely deserves to be an FG. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 01:39, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  2. Yes, please. -MHSstaff 04:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  3. Author vote (why did I not do this last time). ~Vsig.png 05:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
  4. I already voted for last time. -- Spiderzed 06:26, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  5. Looks really helpful and insightful.--Shortround }.{ My Contributions 14:08, 31 August 2012 (BST)
  6. Ridiculous. For --I'm not the Ross UDWiki needs, I'm the Ross it deserves. 15:05, 31 August 2012 (BST)
    Support This should be on the featured guides page. Lpha 00:14, 10 May 2013 (BST) posted after voting had concluded

Against

Abstain

Passed review. ~Vsig.png 06:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Guides:Establishing a Safehouse

Don't think I'll ever be used to this change. Anyway since I want this off orphaned pages I might as well suggest it here for some sort of review as an excuse to link it. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 06:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Guides/New_Player's_Guide

I haven't had any feedback in discussion, so here goes!

I think that the Urban Dead interface is not that confusing, but new players can have trouble figuring out good strategies. I don't want new players to get frustrated by wasted AP (that seem to take forever to recharge), or struggling for a long time to get XP for those first few skills. This guide aims to offer new players everything they need if they don't want the fun of figuring it out for themselves, with explanations organized by concise bullet points so they don't get confused by excessive information.

Also, a lot of players get soured on playing as a zombie due to dying early on without much XP and being pretty much useless until they are revived. I offer a little encouragement to try it in the proper context, hoping to grow tomorrow's crop of zombies. You'll notice right now there's a real population shortage, only 30% zombies including the Mrh-cows, so I hope you don't mind a pro-zombie player posting! -Smiles 01:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


Support

Against

  1. It's a well written guide, but all of this is already covered in swier's First Day in Malton guide among others. Check out Category:Guides for a list of all guides. I'm sure this guide has merit on its own but not enough to be considered featured. Perhaps if you spruce it up and include something not found in other guides, you can bring it back for review. ~Vsig.png 15:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
    Thank you! Swier's guide focuses largely on explaining mechanics, is more general, and is longer. My goal for this guide is definitely not to present any unique information, it is to provide a concise (8 steps, really) "walkthrough" (a clearly designated strategy that is highly effective for leveling). I hope, with improvements, I can get a walkthrough added to Guides! -Smiles 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
  2. Not much new information. Poorly formatted and structured (no true section headers, no internal links, solely running text). This is going to need some polish, and even then, it needs to compete with a lot of guides with a similar focus like First Day in Malton or Guides:Harmanz. I'd recommend you to withdraw this for now and go to Developing Guides first. There more experienced users like me could at least help you to get it properly formatted. -- Spiderzed 15:20, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
    It is in Developing Guides, that's what I meant by no feedback yet. Now it's getting attention, hooray! This is my first webpage thingy and internal links are a very good idea, thank you. That table of contents/links Swier's has is pretty snazzy. My original goal was to make it concise enough that headers and table of contents were unnecessary, but that's probably not practical, and I should at least incorporate a table of contents. -Smiles 01:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Abstain

With zero fors and two againsts, the guide has been rejected. -- Spiderzed 23:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Guides:AP Efficiency

Here we go. --Penguinpyro 14:04, 21 April 2011 (BST)

Support

Against

  1. Needs much work still.
    Guides shouldn't suggest Extensions as a primary part of the guide. Make a separate section for extensions that improve AP Efficiency.
    Guides shouldn't suggest variant play styles to further primary play styles. Make a section for those and refer to them there.
    Keep in mind most players play as they lay.
    Until some of these things make more sense, it has been linked up, and it actually presents itself in a manner that's easy to follow I'm gonna say it should probably go back to the drawing board. --Karekmaps 2.0?! 14:25, 21 April 2011 (BST)
  2. Cleaning Defiled Graffiti doesn't even cost AP... Kevan goes out of his way to suck Pro-Survivor dick and you guys don't even notice.-- | T | BALLS! | 15:07 21 April 2011(UTC)
    And I quote from my guide-" Cleaning bloodstains or defiled graffiti is a last priority - (Currently, cleaning defiled graffiti takes no AP, but that may change in the future) As mentioned above, there is no place for hypochondria in the zombie apocalypse. Removing bloodstains and graffiti defiling is pretty damn useless on the grand scale of things." Congrats, ZL, you've win a prize for reading comp.--Penguinpyro 19:51, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Yeah I didn't even get that far, because I comprehended much earlier...that this guide blows goats. I see you've already modified your little opening list so...you're welcome.-- | T | BALLS! | 20:13 21 April 2011(UTC)
    How awesome! I've always wanted to write a guide that blows goats despite being digital. Does it blow digi-goats?--Penguinpyro 20:32, 21 April 2011 (BST)
  3. Right. You've completely missed out on the benefits of zombies sleeping in dark buildings which is triply useful. No mention of combat reviving, and youve failed to cover the most ap efficient thing a survivor can do, namely run a RP. --Rosslessness 20:14, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Added RP and CRing, but I don't really get the dark buildings deal. Can you explain it to me?--Penguinpyro 20:34, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    A zombie in a dark building is less likely to be headshot, so you save ap. In addition to this a zombie in a dark building cannot be dumped or even seen as a corpse until the building is powered, so you're less likely to be removed unless by concerted effort. Finally, even combat revives are less effective in the dark.--Rosslessness 20:46, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Noted and added. --Penguinpyro 21:00, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    I think you've missed the point of opening a rp. Its about increasing survivor ap.--Rosslessness 21:15, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Ohhhhh, I get it now.--Penguinpyro 21:18, 21 April 2011 (BST)
    Also stylistically, Id put basic tips first, you even start the topic with "first things first." Put that at the top. --Rosslessness 13:13, 22 April 2011 (BST)

Abstain

With zero for votes and three againsts, the guide has been rejected. Feel free to resubmit after overhauling it. -- Spiderzed 03:45, 7 May 2011 (BST)

Guides:Managing Encumbrance

Thanks. ~Vsig.png 05:38, 26 March 2011

Support

  1. Formatting could use some tweaking- there are too many headers here, which makes the guide a bit intimidating. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong with it- it's thorough, clear and interesting. Great work, Vapor. --Penguinpyro 09:48, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  2. Not bad. Would agree there may be too many headings - and the idea of 'Base 8, Base 10, etc' was confusing at first and could be made a little clearer. Yes there's a little work that could be done to it but these are small edits for what seems to be a good guide. --Neko 18:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  3. Thorougly done. Smyg 18:27, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
  4. Nice. I like that you included the section on Zombies as well. Probably would have been overlooked by most.-- | T | BALLS! | 23:04 26 March 2011(UTC)
  5. Had nearly forgotten to vote. So, yeah, another good example of what Developing Guides can accomplish in polishing a guide. -- Spiderzed 13:50, 30 March 2011 (BST)
    I wish I had gotten a bit more feedback on Developing Guides actually. Most of the feedback I've received is either on the guide talk page while I was working on it and here on Guides/Review. I chalk it up to few people with DG on their watchlist. What's the policy of making changes to a guide while it is up on review by the way. I need to make some changes but obviously it could null some votes if I did so. See below and the talk page. I pretty much need to do an overhaul on the section headers. ~Vsig.png 14:33, 30 March 2011
    Minor alterations based on G/R input have often been done (as here or here) and have never led to nullifying. And yeah, DG is sadly a bit underused. -- Spiderzed 14:41, 30 March 2011 (BST)
    I've made adjustments. I suppose they could be considered minor. I didn't change any of the content, just the presentation. Hopefully makes it easier to read. ~Vsig.png 18:51, 30 March 2011

Against

  1. Against, for formatting and clarity. It's interesting, well researched, and while it makes some suggestions that I don't agree with (like advising survivors against carrying "just in case" items like a tool box) I mostly like the basic content. Many sections could be merged or substantially simplified, though, and that would make it a lot easier- and more pleasant- to read and understand. I'll leave some specific examples on the guide's talk page. --FT 15:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks for providing such thorough input. I will be implementing some of your suggestions. ~Vsig.png 20:43, 26 March 2011
  2. The tables are confusing and get redundant quickly. There's a mention that base encumberence should be no more than 22%, but no explanation of why, and no mention of what might be said base encumberance, which is a pretty big gap for an encumberance guide. It feels like it's still being written.--Ryvyoli Y R 01:56, 3 April 2011 (BST)

Abstain

With an approval rate of ~71%, this guide has been successfully reviewed. -- Spiderzed 13:37, 10 April 2011 (BST)

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