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| == Static Status Maps == | | ==Clean slate== |
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| Ok so here's the skinny on saving a map statically. Right click on a page with a map and select ''View Page Source'' from there just copy the table's code and suddenly you have a static map with little clean up.
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| {{User:Peralta/Mappie}} | | I moved all of the content on this page to an archive (see the index above). |
| | Feel free to post any comments, questions or banter below. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 11:02, 20 May 2016 (UTC) |
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| :Looks like it is messed up because a closing font tag is missing. I went ahead and added it above and to the template so Charles's method should work now. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 19:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
| | == East Becktown cade plan == |
| ::Thanks, to both of you :) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 19:32, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
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| | Hey Johnny, just wanted to say, if you want to change around expected cade levels in East Becktown make sure to leave a message at [[Talk:East Becktown Barricade Plan]] in case anyone has objections. I wouldn't expect anyone to as East Becktown is [[:Category:UBP non-compliant plans|UBP non-compliant]], but given that most of the cade plans have been in operation for years, it's good to give people a heads up. And don't forget to edit the [[East Becktown Barricade Plan|actual barricade plan]] a few days afterwards. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC) |
| Grab your screenies, ride it out, and wait until the end to write it up. God that speech is embarrassing. Everyone knows the home of the RRF is Moggridge surely? --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 23:22, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
| | :Hi Bob, I added the barricade levels of the Barricade Plan that is advertized on the suburb page to all EHB and VSB buildings. I know there were some pretty old policies that went against that (mostly decade-old PLEB policies), but I didn't really change the barricade plan that is currently in place AFAIK. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 18:25, 6 June 2016 (UTC) |
| | ::Ok, cool. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 18:41, 6 June 2016 (UTC) |
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| As I said on the page in question, can you provide me with a list of Groups who have a no random revive policy? I'd actually like to discuss the issue with them. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 15:22, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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| Hey. One question. Towards the end several survivors seemed to be using blackmore itself as an indoor RP. Was this an established part of the plan or just some individuals? --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 16:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | | Hey man, groups listed in Suburb group listings are required to have a wiki page. Is "The Scourge" [[The Undying Scourge]]? I've removed the listing in North Blythville for now, but if you make a wiki page for the group (or link it to one already existing), feel free to re-add it. Cheers! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:12, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
| :Coincidence mostly. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 16:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
| | :I was working on it when you posted this, so I basicly messed up the order of things. Thanks for the heads up tho. And no, The Scourge is a new zombie group that started on NecroConnect. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:19, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
| ::Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was official change of position once barricading become impossible. It was an intersting, if strange tactic. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 17:00, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
| | ::Yep, just saw your post there. Once you've claimed the page ([URL=http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=The_Scourge&redirect=no direct link]) you can do the various other relevant tasks. ^_^ {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC) |
| :::Basicly, it makes sense and saves at least 2 AP of transport per person (more if cades are up): revive - if it's an ally leave him - if not, dump. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 17:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::As long as your contacts list is sorted. Otherwise you could be shooting/reviving the wrong people. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 17:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |
| :::::True, but that matters a lot less when shit goes down like this. It's a combo of CR and local reviving which '''can''' yield results, but only with (as always) coordination. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 17:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::Perhaps, but if 30 of the zombies were friendlies and 6 were hostile, there would be better places to revive than in the building your defending. ;0 --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 17:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC) | |
| ::::::: True, but then again, logic was not our forte the past week... {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 17:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Nice. The trick is to learn from our mistakes.--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 17:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Trust me when I say I learned. Working on my personal solution. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 17:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, if you want to NPOV this, I'd let it sit for six months, delete the pages, and start from scratch. -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 23:21, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ==Speaking of Zombie Alts== | | == East Becktown TRP box == |
| The spirit of BARHAH needs you! -[[MHS|<span style="color: Black">'''MHS'''</span>]][[User_Talk:MHSstaff|<span style="color: DarkBlue">'''staff'''</span>]] 23:21, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| *I'm afraid Baraga is offline and due to IRL reasons, will remain dormant for a while ;) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 23:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
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| == PKing... ==
| | Firefox weirdness when I shrink the page width: [[:File:Shot c.jpg]]. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 12:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC) |
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| I congratulate you on your decision survivors suck. I'm not sure about the choice of PK, but to each there own. Happy killing. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 02:35, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
| | == Thanks == |
| :suck it kirsty--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>14:47, 12 November 2012 </small>
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| ::Once a poet, always a poet, isn't that right harrison? {{wink}}{{User:Peralta/Signature}} 14:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::One of the nice things about the Knights is that if you aren't familiar with them, you tend not to know who is behind each of the two-letter names. Or when you might be poking at someone who has a say in your application thread. Just sayin'. >_> {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:58, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::But luckily in this case a quick trip to the history tab will reveal all. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 15:06, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::Let me know how you get on. I've never explored the more murderous side of the game. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 15:09, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::Aichon, I know all too well who I'm talking to. Part of the reason I ''dared'' to make the joke {{wink}}
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| ::::::Ross, I'll keep you posted. So far, PKing is the most intellectual activity I have ever done in an online game and it feels great! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 15:13, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::Ross, you've <i>never</i> PKed? I...Just...''What?'' --{{User:DT/Signature}} 15:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Maybe 10 people in 5 years. Let's see. Iron guard from the nazi zombies, A couple of members of [[Game Over]] in Borehamwood. A couple of randoms when I was levelling a zombie character. Maybe one when I decided on a whim to join the [[Browncoats]]? Not a lot. I've done the Manhunts and [[Red October]] a few times, but I've never really felt it. I think the issue is that over time I've abandoned survivor tactics, playing either as zombies or ghost town, combat reviving survivors. I think the issue might be that I hate to reload. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 15:48, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::::KIll one person a day using a two pistol, all clips setup. Lets you go for ages without a restock. --{{User:DT/Signature}} 17:19, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::God I hate restocks. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 17:25, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::::::As do I, but the payoff is great. There's nothing quite like seeing the message saying you killed someone for the fourth (or even fifth) time in the span of a few minutes, or being able to make a speech in a mall and then clear that mall with a few of your friends. That sort of thing gets people's attention in a way that zombie strikes simply can't. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 18:30, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::::this is a zombie game? no way!--{{User:Sexualharrison/sig}}<small>18:57, 12 November 2012 </small>
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| :::::::::::::Hmm. I'm trying to write an analysis of the survivor meta's attitude to combat reviving, its misconceptions and alternative strategies. Once I convince them they're wrong I'll have a look at shooting them. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 21:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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| Guys, question. Whats the typical PK'er turnout for a major event Like Sanhaim in 2012? Is it organised groups or just posts on places like the PKA?--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 21:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
| | Thanks for the catch. They have two timestamps in their ad, so when I went searching for June timestamps, I found their older timestamp, didn't look closely enough to realize that it was from last year, and removed the ad, never noticing that they had another timestamp at the bottom that was up to date. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:14, 17 August 2016 (UTC) |
| :I'm guessing most of us would rather not advertise our numbers so openly (the Philosophe Knights routinely change group tags, so although we blipped onto the stats page during the strike, we disappeared again shortly thereafter as we changed our tags). That said, we had enough this year to easily clear a populated mall and then move on to secondary targets, so that should give you a ballpark idea. There were several organized and recognized groups committed to it this year, each of which attended with several of its members, as well as a handful of individuals in attendance, I believe. {{User:Aichon/Psig}} 21:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
| | :In fact, have a cookie. |
| ::Yeah, it's kind of why I had to ask the question. I always assumed that combined you'd have a comparable number of people to the larger survivor groups. Would that be something it's ok to write, ''somewhere''?--[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 21:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::That is probably close enough for a generalization. I've never understood the changing/dropping tags thing. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
| | :{{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:27, 17 August 2016 (UTC) |
| ::::I experienced this first hand when we were fighting The Dead in Dunell Hills: while the alternating tags won't confuse experienced players who keep track of PKers and have been around long enough to recognize them, it ''will'' create a ton of confusion and slow down FAKing, reviving and clog communication channels. Basicly bounty hunting and primary goals (like conquering and rebuilding etc.) won't be slowed down, but your entire support structure is just bogged down to an abominable pace {{wink}} {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 22:51, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::Thanks, although its not "my" support network. I get jittery in any group on the stats page. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 22:58, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::It was just an example {{wink}} {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 23:02, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::We do it for a variety of reasons, not least of which is that it's simply easier to procure random aid when you don't have to deal with the stigma that your group name carries. There's a reason why [[User:Aichon/Characters/Doug_ColIins|this fake character page]] continues to be the link provided in my in-game profile. Other reasons we change tags include the previously-mentioned sowing of confusion, simply differentiating ourselves within the group (we have several subgroups within the Knights, so we use those tags at times), or else for plain anonymity in the case of several of our secret members. {{User:Aichon/Psig}} 23:13, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::I understand the anonymity argument, makes perfect sense. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 23:14, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::I thought PK was about intelligence and shit. But now you're saying you're just trying to confuse survivors, who are stupid? --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC) | |
| ::::::They never said it was ''hard'' Sadly my attention has now been diverted to historical group voting. --[[User talk:Rosslessness|Ross Less Ness]] <sup>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERLLUoZn0mM Enter Stranger...]</sup> 23:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::We're about ridding people of ignorance through education. That oftentimes involves turning people's own ignorance back on them in a direct demonstration of how powerful and dangerous it can be to them. It's a surprisingly effective method. {{User:Aichon/Psig}} 23:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Well hell, I just noticed who you are. I'm pretty sure that qualifies me as ignorant and we both know what that means. Kirsty doesn't wear a vest, just in case you wanted to know. I'm still trying to figure out how I missed the Sith of November list, too. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:39, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Names of members in participating groups were culled from the list, from what I understood, and since O13 is involved, your name was likely removed. And yeah, I switch sigs, depending on the situation. Particularly when it comes to representing the Knights, I switch sigs if I feel that my post has me acting as a representative of the group or if I feel compelled to speak more in-character for some reason, both of which were at play here. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:29, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::I prefer to sign with the same signature everywhere, although I change it around quite a bit once in a while. My previous sig had a link to both characters I ran, but since [[User:Peralta/Zombie|Baraga]] is not active at the moment, I chose for a sober Userpage, Talk Page and PK sig. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 11:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::::::::::Quick aside: the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Peralta&diff=2040749&oldid=2040748 indentation you corrected] was actually very intentional, since I was replying directly to Kirsty. Many of us do that on a routine basis if we want to create a branch on a thread or be sure it's clear who we're responding to, though [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Category_talk:Historical_Groups&diff=2040787&oldid=2040769 not everyone understands the idea]. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC) | |
| :::::::::::: Ah, I see :) Try and leave a < br > next time? ;) {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 16:18, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ==Considered [[Template:Philosophe_Knights|this]]?==
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| {{User:Aichon/Psig}} 23:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
| | ::In all seriousness, I noticed since I updated our group ads recently and remembered the KT timestamp. The double timestamp is an issue they probably should fix. Thanks for appreciating the very tiny effort I made! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 07:12, 18 August 2016 (UTC) |
| :I have, not sure why I didn't use it (but I've made a habit of changing my Userpage everytime I get bored, maybe next time) {{wink}} {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 11:13, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
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| == Bounty Hunter Groups ==
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| Hello Peralta and thanks for the welcome! I see you're involved in a major PK association, for an aspiring bounty hunter, what group and forum would you say are the most capable (and joinable even for a low level player)?
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| :Well, this still is an entirely new career to me, and you may want to know that [[Philosophe Knights]] isn't actually based on the premise of killing other survivors. We use PKing as a tool to educate others: a dead survivor with a clear written message is an extremely effective warning for those who feel the inclination to light up buildings that aren't [[TRP]]'s, or sleep inside a lit [[Mall]], etc. Furthermore, we will never kill at random, we avoid killing in [[Centers of Learning Policy|Centers of Learning]] (unless provoked), and Knights recieve points for handing out FAKs, repairing Centers of Learning, reviving on a designated RP, etc. All to encourage the survivors to play smarter. From our perspective, we're a pro-survivor group {{wink}}
| | Does it make sense how the top-right navmap seems... squished? at least compared to similar ones on other suburb pages. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:55, 25 August 2016 (UTC) |
| :Anyway, welcome to the wiki, good luck and try and if you have any questions, feel free to drop in anytime! {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 22:55, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
| | :We tried to keep it the same size as the danger map so it looked balanced. I use Chrome, and it looks okay for me even with the line breaks in the suburb names. So I checked in Firefox (as that is what you use) and it is narrower in that browser. Maybe I screwed up the re-sizing somehow? I'll look at it later tonight. [[User:Stelar|stelar]] ([[User talk:Stelar|talk]]) 22:26, 25 August 2016 (UTC) |
| :I don't think there are any decent dedicated BHer groups left, unless you want to zerg hunt and that probably isn't a good idea at low level. You might consider one of the larger survivor groups, many of them have BHers within their ranks. Most of them are probably going to put some additional restrictions on who/where/when you can kill PKers, but if you want the group experience, that is probably going to be your best bet. --[[Image:Kirsty_Cotton_Header.png|60px|Open the Box|link=User:Kirsty_cotton]] <sub>[[Organization_XIII|<span style="color: grey">Org XIII</span>]]</sub> <sup>[[User:Kirsty_cotton/alts|<span style="color: blue">Alts</span>]]</sup> 23:12, 19 November 2012 (UTC) | |
| ::Way more fun on the other side anyhow. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 23:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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| :::Being a PKer means you'll find unsuspecting targets wherever you wish, while searching for targets might be boring and time craving, I find it more satisfying and interesting to claim the scalp of one who is used to killing instead of being killed. But yes, I know of the temptations and satisfactions from being a PKer. --[[User:Johnny do gooer|Johnny do gooer]] 23:34, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::As I said: we're no random killers, we have a certain je ne sais quoi. It ''may'' be painful je ne sais quoi, and it ''may'' kill you, but I guarantee you we're not blind [[trenchcoaters]]. {{User:Peralta/Signature}} 23:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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