Suggestion:20100924 Scout Supplies

20100924 Scout Supplies

Redoubt 19:15, 24 September 2010 (BST)

Suggestion type
Skill

Suggestion scope
Survivors

Suggestion description

(Added as a subset to the Military Skill "Scout SafeHouse")

As Kevan has introduced the new Scout Safehouse skill there has been some talk about the possible use for such a skill. Scout Safehouse requires the user to spend 31 AP to set and scout a safehouse which gives him a 10% chance of a free action in that building. For many of those that operate in "red" suburbs, this skill is essentially worthless to migrant survivors. The skill requires such a large amount of AP that a subsequent skill can be added in order to make it more valuable to the survivors that have become experienced in best survival technique of Malton: Keep moving. This is where Scout Supplies comes in as a subset of Scout Safehouse: In a established safe house, survivors have an increased chance of finding supplies, because they know the layout of the safehouse.

This should only increase the search probability by ~5-8%, as to not unbalance the game.

While there is always some concern with altering search probabilities, the large amount of AP expended and the ability of zombies to ruin a safehouse, thus requiring another 31AP, would make the establishment of a safehouse more worthwhile to experienced survivors. This will justify the safehouse to a players that may only stay in the area a few days by increasing the efficiency of their time.

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Keep Votes

1. Sort of a keep - I like the idea replacing the scout safehouse skill entirely with this, paying 30AP for +5% find rates instead of 10% chance of a free action. 22:15, 24 September 2010 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - While I do think the Scout Safehouse skill is in desperate need of a buff, I don't think this is the proper approach to take, since it provides both immediate and long-term benefits, which are also cumulative with the AP savings already being offered by the skill. It's too much, basically. I just think that Scout Safehouse should cost less. —Aichon— 19:23, 24 September 2010 (BST)
2. Kill - I don't think Scout Safehouse needs s subskill to improve it. As Aichon, I think it just needs a buff. --~ 19:44, 24 September 2010 (BST)
3. Kill - See Aichon. What Scout Safehouse really needs is an earlier break-even-point. -- Spiderzed▋ 19:56, 24 September 2010 (BST)
4. Aichon summed it up perfectly. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} 22:56, 24 September 2010 (BST)
5. Kill - I don't think Scout Safehouse is underpowered. There are situations when survivors can save by a few dozen AP through it. These require a good amount of investment and risk, but that's the survivor shtick; They're much more powerful, but only when nothing goes wrong. Scout Safehouse is only helpful on occasion, and there's a significant risk of wasting 30AP on what turns out to be nothing, but with well-informed speculation, it can save lives. Anyway, I don't think that searching safehouses needs a boost more than fighting in it. I like the idea of pushing a spare 30 to a later time, when you get it back while the building is attacked and you really need it, more than I like the idea of having it gradually returned when you don't need it. --VVV ^RPMBG 04:39, 25 September 2010 (BST)
6. Kill - No, sorry. While I do agree that Scout Safehouse does need some tweaking to make it useful, I don't think this is the way to do it. Mattiator 06:09, 25 September 2010 (BST)
7. Kill - As Aichon. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 12:30, 25 September 2010 (BST)
8. Kill Aichon basically summed it up. Though I would have voted kill anyways since I'm against most suggestions that involve increasing search rates. Gat 06:03, 26 September 2010 (BST)

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