Suggestion:20090208 Nightvision (zombie skill)

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20090208 Nightvision (zombie skill)

Devon lobham 14:12, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion type
Skill

Suggestion scope
Zombies

Suggestion description
A purchasable skill which enables zombies to see in unpowered dark buildings. They can see the complete room description and their attack rates aren't halved.

To balance the amount of effort a survivor needs to find a generator and its fuel then install it in a dark building, zombies with this skill don't see in darkness immediately. Instead, they have to use an action, probably called "Adapt Vision" which costs 5 AP and shows a text which goes something like:

Standing where you are, you scan the pitch-black room back and forth until you gradually recognize shapes.

It's implied ingame that zombies have to take time to adjust their pupils, the way your pupils gradually adapt to tolerable darkness.

This skill also will only compensate for a quarter of the original attack rate.

Currently the dark building feature actually makes zombies benefit from a generator and puts them at a loss in the absence of it. This is a paradox since it's humans who should be needing this sophisticated item anyway, not walking corpses. Implementing this skill will once again encourage zombies (or at least the ones who's purchased this skill) to destroy generators.

Also, while survivors can (in theory) immediately address a dark building problem by placing a fueled generator, zombies can't do such.

Roleplay-wise, it can be said that zombies have spent so much time out in darkened streets that their visual senses become fine-tuned to darkness.

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Keep Votes

  1. Keep Devon lobham 14:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  2. Keep --Drugsanimudongs 18:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Kill Votes

  1. Kill Unless we're giving flashlights to survivors (and I don't want that) then this skill is an unfair advantage for zombies --Mkgeeeeze 16:39, 8 February 2009 (GMT)
  2. Strong Kill - Entirely unfair, and utterly idiotic. Nerfs survivors by giving zombies advantages in the dark. What are they, cats?-- THELORDGUNSLINGER 22:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
  3. Kill Negates any tactical use of dark buildings. They'd instantly become abandoned. --A Big F'ing Dog 02:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Spam/Dupe Votes

  1. Spam - Really? This TOTALLY creates an unbalance between survivors and zombies. Also as Big F'ing Dog. Please for the love of God, run this shit through Developing Suggestions and actually pay attention to what people comment on it!!--SirArgo Talk 02:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  2. 'Spam - Unlike the shrill, frothing voters above (particularly GS, sheeeeeeesh, man) I'll say that I think you've got the problem right. Dark buildings are awful for zombies, biggest zombie shaft ever. However, your solution is clumsy and horribly unbalanced: for very little AP zombies could completely negate the penalties, and that's not in any way balanced. I do echo the others in asking, "Why the fuck didn't you run this through Talk:Suggestions, for chrissake". --WanYao 05:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC) btw GS.... zombies are predators... they also have a skill called "Scent Death"... there are many reasons to think that they would not be as adversely affected by darkness as the living. No... not cats... but not crippled by the dark, either. I guess you only role play a smart person in an online game, nuh? --WanYao 05:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  3. Spam - as SirArgo. Linkthewindow  Talk  05:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  4. Spam - Argo, this WAS on Developing Suggestions, he just didn't listen. Oh, and this isn't the solution we're looking for. --Blake Firedancer T E RNL? P.I.S.I.T. 07:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
    Non-author RE moved to talk Linkthewindow  Talk  08:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


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  3. Keep - Good sugestion. no signature --FakeSuggester 07:39, 15 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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  1. Kill - This is a terrible idea, but you can totally fix it up. --NegativeGal 06:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Re - Please be more specific about how to fix it on the discussion page. --MrSuggester 14:01, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
      • Re - Sure, I have detailed my proposed fixes here. --NegativeGal 23:38, 12 Nov 2005 (GMT)
  2. Kill - You will eat my poopie and love it! --PooEater 11:12, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)
    • Note - Inane vote removed. Defend in discussion. --DaModerator 11:13, 13 Nov 2005 (GMT)

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