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March of The Dead

The Dead have swept through Ruddlebank, destroying the suburb systematically. All NecroTech facilities have been offlined and ruined. 10%-20% of buildings remain barricaded. Everywhere else is ruined/opened. DeRathi 19:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Second Big Bash

In order to help future attempts by Survivors to coordinate a response to the 2nd Big Bash, I have set up a page specifically for this purpose called "Survivors vs The Second Big Bash". Please add any news on this page, and any ideas for strategy on the discussion page. Good luck! --Richardhg 03:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

October 25^th

I'm in ur tikhon, big bashin yer brainz! The man 22:39, 25 October 2007 (BST)

July 2nd

Below was in the news section. Original statement removed by original author afterwards. Moved here for reference.

Montana8 said:

It wont do soon my friends, just a warning to tickon medical- im coming for ya!

If you're going to try and be menacing, at least spell your target correctly please. -Gofqua 03:28, 4 July 2007 (BST)

Wait, that's how they get you! You get all irate and stressed over avoidable typos and they ZMASH down the door :(. 'arm. 04:50, 4 July 2007 (BST)

Oh, "Tickon" Medical. Yeah, they've all gone to Ridleybank. If you hurry, you can catch them off-guard.--Nuabreed 14:28, 4 July 2007 (BST)

Montana8 said:

First of all i ment the hospital in ruddlebank, and nuabreed- well when i find you, i will kill you. I am also on my way to get revived, so suspect some Pking at tickhon medical in the next couple of days :)

EDIT: Montana8's removed their last two posts from here. It kind of makes the rest of these posts look a bit meaningless. Needless to say he was threatening to come kill us all. Again. --Amanil 22:43, 5 July 2007 (BST)

And moved to the talk page for reference. 'arm. 05:42, 6 July 2007 (BST) Added the other missing post--Nuabreed 12:35, 6 July 2007 (BST)

June 24, 2007

Also Phlem Hawker is in the region. He has been seen attempting to lower barricades and killing NT defenders during zombie attacks.

I hardly see how this should be deleted. Nuabreed is only identifying a PKer that would otherwise attempt to harm Ruddlebankers. Would you rather us not tell about PKers so we won't accidently help them? Your justification for deletion doesn't make sense. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 18:56, 25 June 2007 (BST) .... In fact I'm going to change it back now, this is silly. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:07, 25 June 2007 (BST)

I agree - that statement isn't a good example of non-NPOV. It could perhaps be phrased better, but info on a PKer being present is relevant info. There is other news on the page that could be eligible for amending/removal due to non-NPOV issues. But I'm not going to do it - just encourage NPOV in the future. armareum 23:31, 25 June 2007 (BST)

How would you go about making the statement better, then? I added this little talk page spot for future new problems, but I I'm a tad lazy to move stuff. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:46, 25 June 2007 (BST)

I'm sorry, I meant to say "I agree - that statement isn't a good example of non-NPOV". That completely reverses the meaning of what you will have read, so again: sorry! armareum 00:15, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Thats fine. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:35, 26 June 2007 (BST)

You want to report PKers go to any one of the numerous PK lists, don't post their them on the wiki. Zombies don't care if you have a PKer and survivors don't care if zombies have a ZKer. Don't report people profiles on the suburb wiki, do it on the talk page if you want but not on the actual wiki. I will however leave it for now.--karek 03:39, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Hmm we do have Ruddlebank wanted for this stuff...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by NRnRQBBAN (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

There you go, there is a place for you to put it.--karek 15:01, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Why do you care so much? Telling the community about a PKer as a little sidenote isn't hurting anyone. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 19:20, 26 June 2007 (BST)

I disagree, I believe it is hurting everyone. It's damaging to the player, it's damaging to the community, but most importantly, here it is damaging to impartiality.--karek 20:23, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Are you trying to make a funny? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 20:51, 26 June 2007 (BST)

No, I am quite serious.--karek 20:54, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Well I'm laughing my ass off. Are you for real? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:03, 26 June 2007 (BST) Being a dick aside, being a PKer is their choice, in Phlem's cause, probably from boredom. It's a game. He doesn't give crap if his character gets killed, same with the community.

Ok, then report him through the right forums, the suburb wiki pages are not the right forums.--karek 21:42, 26 June 2007 (BST)

Karek i tell you what if you tell me where you are i will come and kill you then you can post me on one of the pkbords and a big majority of people in ruddlebank wont see it there because they do not know about it and we shall see how fast somone comes for me. the point being when i see nuabreeds pk reports i add a pker but i dont know about any pkbords to look for any--Blk Gryphon

Karek, you make a good argument for not including PK sightings in general in the Current News section. However there is an argument for occasional inclusions of notorious PKers. Justification would be the same for including reports of any particular group that might be about to become active in the suburb. I don't know anything about the particular PKer cited, however I wouldn't want to put a blanket ban on PK sightings. Just stating a PKer sighting in pretty NPOV - he didn't ask everyone to shoot on sight, etc. I say let's just leave it for now and keep an eye on the NPOV for future posts. armareum 00:27, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Notorious is a perspective thing. No one would view posting high profile zombies as NPOV, what's the real difference with PKers?--karek 13:19, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Their already inside; barricades are useless, and they have shotguns. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 17:49, 29 June 2007 (BST)

A posting of a high profile zombie group could be NPOV. And yes, being "notorious" can definitely be subjective. I suggest we let this last PK report slide, and ask that any future ones be justified before they are kept. We don't want to start an edit war, we just want to keep the News NPOV.
I would also say that all the discussion in the News section should be removed (as it's not NPOV reporting). I might even get around to that at some point, moving it to this talk page. armareum 18:36, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Yes, reporting of groups is fine, but individuals most definitely isn't. But if a PKer group or members of a PKer group are spotted in a suburb that would possibly be NPOV, depending how it is reported. Posting individual profiles of anyone, though, most definitely isn't.--karek 19:14, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Karek, in the main I agree with you. And I want the News section to become/remain NPOV too, I'm just trying to be diplomatic. The people who have been posting News on this page have been doing so for a while with no disturbance. And if we just come in and retrospectively impose our(albeit correct) NPOV standards rigidly we are going to raise some hackles and possibly piss some people off. We shouldn't have to be editors for the News Section, so lets convince them to use NPOV themselves in future so that we don't have to be. Anything that isn't NPOV in future we can remove or edit (and copy the offending item to this talk page for discussion). Of course, you are free to do what you want, I'm just advocating [what I hope is] a more diplomatic approach. armareum 19:58, 29 June 2007 (BST)

I'm talking about the future. A great example of why this type of thing should be done would be the Mornington page on which someone started posting peoples profiles accusing them of PKing when they hadn't done anything at all. That's one of the big reasons why this shouldn't be done, there is no way to actually get real PKers or real 'zombie spies'(seriously people, no one actually considered them useful they are all independent and I've never met a group that actually uses them outside of Extinction.). But yeah, in the future I will be deleting anything like that I see on any suburb page. Cause it most definitely isn't NPOV and isn't even really useful from a POV point of view beyond griefing that player.--karek 20:40, 29 June 2007 (BST)

Remember to move it to the talk page, enemies are a bad thing. Ruddlebank's non-NPOV state could be coming from being bored in the SW corner, though. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:57, 29 June 2007 (BST)

That's a really poor excuse. Really, it is. But enough, this is settled now. armareum 23:21, 29 June 2007 (BST)

I know :'(. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:57, 30 June 2007 (BST)

what the hell is NPOV? and Nuabreed is a very honest person and wouldent lie about such things (imo)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blood red Bread (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

NPOV stands for Neutral Point of View, as in, not biased towards one side or another. Suburb updates are encouraged to be written in this format, but is not always adhered to by all users. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 02:51, 30 June 2007 (BST)

Right, I simply posted what I witnessed and I will contine to do. The essence of NPOV is Assert facts, including facts about opinions — but do not assert the opinions themselves. Whether a story could be interpreted as anti-zombie or anti-survivor is irrelevent, what matters is providing the facts and allowing the readers to from their own opinion. I posted the facts, it falls to each reader to make a individual decision whether they consider me a reliable source.--Nuabreed 13:20, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Overbarricading - June 22

Just passing through...couldnt help but notice the rampant over barricading...whats the deal? --Bruce1nR 19:11, 22 June 2007 (BST)

Dono. There should be an entrance at Rodeney Bank, or TIkhon General Hospital. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 21:07, 22 June 2007 (BST)

So are St. Max's and St. Emma's Churches. There are entry points if you look around for them Cannywizard 22:09, 22 June 2007 (BST)

Ruddlebank News Update June 11th, 2007 and NPOV

Did anyone read the comment about NPOV above the news section? June 11th, 2007 and the comments under that are definitely not in that policy of NPOV, it is completely biased towards Extinction and their members to the point where you actively mock them and insult them for deciding to announce they were going after Ruddlebank but with a flair.

Also you have an active zombie group who are actually breaking into buildings. It is documented by them and this suburb should probably be considered yellow, not green.--karek 10:34, 12 June 2007 (BST)

karek, how can you say that the news is biased towards Extinction, when it's clearly survivor biased (exalting in survivors winning, etc). I agree it's not NPOV (and I really wish the writers would make a better effort to be NPOV), but it's not zombie orientated, it's survivor orientated. armareum 20:02, 23 June 2007 (BST)

I meant bias in a bad way, as in they are bashing Extinction and refusing to acknowledge any of their actions in the suburb, we are very much on the same page here I think.--karek 01:17, 24 June 2007 (BST)

Okay, understood. And it's a real shame they don't keep the News NPOV. But for your future reference "bias towards" something is always positive, never negative. :) armareum 01:39, 24 June 2007 (BST)

I'll be sure to keep that one in mind. You know they really should have someone in charge of making sure these pages are kept at least slightly NPOV.--karek 02:07, 24 June 2007 (BST)

Wait...Extinction are breaking in to buildings in Ruddlebank? I've yet to see that happen in my wander up and down the west side of the suburb every so often, and they've by no means got further than that. I think it's a bit much to make the whole suburb yellow when we've only got a few zombies in the west, and not even in the south-west (I haven't seen a zombie down here for days, I have to go over to Foulkes for my daily zombie-in-a-barrel beating - a.k.a. axing squatters - now, although it does make them easy to find. Cheers for that, by the way, it gives our low levels a great place to get their XP up in a safe environment :) ). -- Amanil 17:04, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Wow! I had no idea that the Selway Building is Ruddlebank! Omg! I learn stuff everyday! We'll try to keep the talkity-talk to the talk page, I guess. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:05, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Wow! I had no idead you were a complete douchebag. Selway is in the suburb, it is being broken into, it is being broken into by active zombies, it is being broken into by an active and coorditanted zombie group who, whether you want to admit it or not, are in your suburb breaking into your shit. That is yellow, yellow asks for breakins, yellow asks for zombies, yellow does not ask for how many breakins or how many zombies, Ruddlebank is yellow. Yellow is still very survivor friendly but shows that there are breakins and there are zombies, a fact that you'll have to deal with 'cause it's true. --karek 14:49, 13 June 2007 (BST)

"...that the Selway Building is Ruddlebank!" Notice the wording. One building under attack does not mean the suburb is yellow. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:41, 14 June 2007 (BST)

Yeah actually, active zombie attacks does mean the suburb is yellow, if a building is under attack you have active zombie attacks, specifically when the attacks are coordinated, which they are.--karek 01:07, 14 June 2007 (BST)

You're right. On a normal basis I'd agree, but this is Extinction. Their aim is to sack every NT in Malton, thus their main target is Selway, which happens to be their only target in Ruddlebank. Selway happens to have little to no one inside. When Extinction breaks in, survivors sweep by with headshots then the bodies are dumped outside. Hardly what I call a threat, more like an xp farm for the newbies. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:22, 14 June 2007 (BST)

I still agree with Target Zombie. One building in the entire suburb has the odd break-in. Seting the entire place to yellow just for that would be misleading, as virtually everywhere else is fine. From the map of the surburbs page: "Safe - Break-ins rare, no zombie groups. Moderate - Active zombies and break-ins, but no 50+ hostile hordes." Firstly, there aren't any zombie groups. A few zombies spilling over from adjacent suburbs hardly counts as a zombie group, does it? Next, on a suburb-wide scale break-ins are rare. If you stay anywhere else but in Selway Building you can get a good night's sleep, ready for a lesiurely stroll through the zombie-free streets to the local zombie shooting range, also known as Selway Building's lobby, where for a mere $5 you can enjoy a nice, easy and safe zombie-farm (refreshments provided). Also, you happen to be the only one who's suggested we set Ruddlebank to yellow. Perhaps you should get some more support if you really think your cause is worthy? Also, would you mind cleaning up your language? Swearing's unnecessary. --Amanil 07:01, 14 June 2007 (BST)

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Tentative forays into NE Ruddlebank has shown multiple aggressive Zombies in the area. Not as large as the hordes that goes after malls, but groups of 7 and 4 are sighted; sufficient to break into most buildings to directly threaten survivors. -- Lynx7725 17:57, 4 Jan 2006 (GMT)

Malton fire department, you don't need to worry, It's already under control. 02:19, 4 May 2006 (BST)

Die steigende Sonne stellt schließlich ein. Ein neugeborener Lebenwille verblassen. Von Sonne zu Mond, zu sonnen Mond sich… Ruhigen Schlaf geben den Lebentoten. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saria231 (talk • contribs) at an unknown time.

From Google.com/translate

The rising sun adjusts finally. A newborn life will fade. From sun to moon to sun moon itself… Calm sleep give the life-dead.

-- Cheeser, ^DvB:SWEEPZ   06:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Barricade plan

Moved to Ruddlebank Barricade Plan -- boxy ^{T L ZS PA DA} 06:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Zombies in SLY PD

hello everyone, hope you're having a good time slaying zombies.

I ceratinly was, until SLY PD got broken into and everyone killed, I have 2 syringes but cannot use them on myself (duh!)

so, anyone feeling like heading over and riviving me should do so ;) I also have some medical stuff if you're infected :) nRnRQBBAN

June 4th

I just want to say sorry for all the the trouble i caused in ruddlebank, i am currently now out of town and settling down, i still hate Legion of the octopope, but i wont edit or vandilise their posts ever again, cya all --Montana8 19:55, 4 June 2007 (BST)

Extinction group

Just read the 11th June report. Could someone explain what it means?

is it now forbidden to barricade and revive and search by our laws...

Or are we at war with extinction group?

If war, you can count on me trying to do my best.

Extinction is a pro-zombie group that works to end the survivor presence in Malton. They are organized, and, as such, one must coordinate with other survivors in order to combat them. They are determined, but not unstoppable. --Banana reads Scoundrell for all of Yesterday's News, Today! 01:53, 12 June 2007 (BST)

Relax, those are their rules not the suburb's. As it stands, they aren't holding a single resource point in the suburb so their claims seem a bit ridiculous. If you want to fight them, head over to the Selway, there's usually one or two milling about.--Nuabreed 16:53, 13 June 2007 (BST)

Aye, I'm at the NT 2 west of Sly, there's about 18 there but also some octopopes etc etc, they're all doing a great job. -- nRnRQBBAN

Suburb Groups

Nuabreed, I notice you removed Extinction from this the "Known groups in this suburb". They still consider themselves active in this suburb. I know it's good to tidy up wiki pages, but don't you think that removing them so soon is a bit premature? Anyway, I've added them back in for now. armareum 10:17, 25 June 2007 (BST)

Sorry about that, in my defence, while they may consider themselves active, they're not actually present in the suburb. I can't find a single Extinction member out there and their own website seems to suggest they've abandoned the area. In fact, someone who I assume is you is encouraging any new recruits to make their way to New Arkham.

http://extinction101.proboards100.com/index.cgi?board=sw&action=display&thread=1180936463&page=3

--Nuabreed 13:09, 2 July 2007 (BST)

Okay, you can remove us for now. In fact, I'll do it for you. We'll return at some point, I'm sure (yes, I'm with Extinction). You beat us here. You are very organised, and we don't have the numbers. Is a week or so a suitable time to wait before removing beaten groups? 'arm. 05:36, 6 July 2007 (BST)

Well, whether or not any particular group is doing well or not so well has little to do with it. Having members operating in the suburb is the only criteria. But thanks for removing yourselves. The active groups list is my bete noire, look at the Mercenaries, two members but allegedly active in nine (I counted) suburbs.--Nuabreed 09:54, 6 July 2007 (BST)

Oops, forgot to remove Extinction! Removed now.
I had a look at that group - how lame. And their grammar isn't particularly good. I might flame them in their talk pages so they try to come and PK me! Pkers like them just suck. 'arm. 10:37, 6 July 2007 (BST)

New suburb setup

Some suburbs have been taking up a new layout. Here is the plan and this is what it looks like. Now I don't think we need to follow everything word for word, but the setup in general is neat. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 22:32, 18 July 2007 (BST)

Looks good.--Nuabreed 16:15, 8 August 2007 (BST)

Done--Nuabreed 19:28, 21 August 2007 (BST)