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== Power stations as resouce buildings? ==
== EMR BOT ==


I was updating [[Dentonside]] building status when I noticed that [[Tolman Power Station]] isn't listed as a resource building. The same happen to [[Krinks Power Station]] in [[Williamsville]]. I think it's ridiculous, because two very important items can be found in them: generators and fuel cans. Sure, there are only two of them throughout Malton, but so are forts.
Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --[[User:Gmoney|Gmoney]] 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


I asked the same question on the [[Tactical Resource Point]] talk page, but I don't expect to have answers. For now, I'm going to take initiative and put both of them under "Factories" slot. If you agree on that, we can put them under Malls/Forts slot instead. And maybe give them a color in the barricade plans, as well. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 05:39, 9 August 2010 (BST)
== User boxes? ==
:Sounds reasonable IMO, I like your initiative. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:17, 9 August 2010 (BST)
::I like it as well, since it's obvious we just overlooked them when considering the barricade plans and the like. <s>Sounds to me like they should be listed with forts and malls as multi-block TRPs for simplicity's and consistency's sakes.</s> Should be listed with Factories, as you said, since it makes more sense in terms of what they have. I'll probably make the appropriate changes to the barricade plans and templates in a sec, since I don't see why there would be any objections. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:31, 9 August 2010 (BST)
:::Done. They should be listed on the barricade plans and on the TRP page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 17:16, 9 August 2010 (BST)


==Sysop input requested==
Hey, how do you make user boxes? --[[User:Suburb 22 Zombies|Suburb 22 Zombies]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST)
There's a sysop-only vote taking place, and we haven't heard from you yet. Check [[UDWiki:Administration/Discussion#Iscariot.27s_Vandal_Data|here]]. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:23, 9 August 2010 (BST)


==bot problem==
== Template:Mall Logo ==
EMR Bot is changing status overriding in-person scouting that was done the same day. I suggest changing it to not update anything newer than 48 or 72 hours. Also, it should take into account that EMR reports do not see barricades or anything (living or undead) inside buildings.  -- [[User:Grogh|Grogh]] 23:13, 10 September 2010 (BST)
:I [[User_talk:The_Rooster/Archive/2010#EMR_Bot|asked him about it earlier this year]]. Might have some answers you're looking for. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:34, 11 September 2010 (BST)
::Yeah I've noticed you've been fixing various edits that were less than clever for ages now. My original reasoning for this was the the suburb news would be a better way to see if an edit should be skipped (as explained in link given). Well nobody updates suburb news at all anymore, so that's become useless. It already skips updating for anything over a week old, but I also added a condition so that it won't update if there was a more recent edit than the broadcast time. (No more suggesting a status from a 3 day old report, when an edit was made yesterday)


::As far as accounting for indoor zombies and barricades goes, it already does that somewhat. The problem is that it's major guesswork, and that the "official" danger levels don't line up with what people tend to put anyway. That said, I'll see about tweaking the numbers a bit. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 15:53, 11 September 2010 (BST)
Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST)
:::I know what you mean about the suburb news, and even the BIC's aren't getting updated much. Anyway, thanks for tweaking! -- [[User:Grogh|Grogh]] 01:28, 12 September 2010 (BST)
:I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{tl|Mall Logo}}. See [[User:DangerReport/Bale Mall]] and [[Bale Mall]]. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 26 April 2011</sub>
::Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST)
:::Yeah it converts the result of {{tl|DRstatus}} to lower case. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:16, 26 April 2011</sub>


==replying here because PSP editing sucks==
Oh god. This makes things ''worse''! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Credit only because he clearly C+P everything from my group. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 20:47, 14 September 2010 (BST)
:The wiki update, I take it? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:It's a table and some headings, you could claim half the wiki looks the same. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:52, 14 September 2010 (BST)
::Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST)
::True, but using the same color and ordering of each header?  And the same "Under Construction" template?  At least make a point as to where he found 'em codes. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 21:00, 14 September 2010 (BST)
:::It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as [[The dead]] or [[the dead]] or [[tHe Dead]] or [[the DEad]] (the actual group is [[The Dead]] or [[the Dead]]). --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:::And if he does change the colour? And the text at some point? It is as you point out "under construction". If those change then it's just another group page with coloured background and groupbox and slab of text. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:06, 14 September 2010 (BST)


==Sig==
Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in [[:Category:DangerReport Formatting Templates|this category]] would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right.
Set {{CodeInline|<nowiki>style="letter-spacing:-.2em"</nowiki>}} on the V's. Adjust value until overlapping. <small>Also I pressed +, woo tab key</small> {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 05:49, 16 September 2010 (BST)
:It's perfect!
{{Cookie|[[User:TripleU|Trips]]|[[User:The Rooster|Rooster]]|reason=working magic on his sig.}}
:As an additional reward, I'm breaking the rules of your talk page by bringing the conversation to it! Yay! --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 06:06, 16 September 2010 (BST)


==Sig Switch==
I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Friendly notice that having a massive switch statements in your sig is threatening inclusion limits on several parts of the wiki, particularly [[BIC]] related stuff which will start to collapse as you sign more danger reports. Could I ask that you significantly reduce them? Pruning the main one to days of week would help a lot. It's not like anybody will read mouseover text anyway. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:26, 19 September 2010 (BST)
:I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ABuildingStatus&action=historysubmit&diff=1881400&oldid=1527038 automatically lowercase the status]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:Also I used + because I can. You realise the wiki will close off trailing tables for you, right? If you remove it, the + button won't leave new messages outside your table. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:35, 19 September 2010 (BST)
::Ok let me step back.
::Also, do what he says. Most of the folks that have stylized talk pages use that trick so that the + button still works. It also wikinewb-proofs your page a bit. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:46, 19 September 2010 (BST)
:::[[User_talk:Poodle_of_doom#New_Page]]. Ignore my poor spelling and talk of shrooms. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:08, 20 September 2010 (BST)
:Alternatively, if you want to keep the idea but want to cut the bulk down a bit, you could simply create pages at <code>User:TripleU/sigXXsaying</code> where <code>XX</code> is the day of the month, each one holding a single saying that would have otherwise gone in your switch statement, then, in your signature, rather than using the switch, you'd just tell it to include <code><nowiki>User:TripleU/sig{{CURRENTDAY}}saying</nowiki></code> at the point where that switch statement goes. Yes, it means creating a lot of pages, but it also means cutting it down from its current size to around 1/30th the size while still keeping the same functionality. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:44, 19 September 2010 (BST)
::I like this idea best, I'll do it now/soon/Septemper. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 00:08, 20 September 2010 (BST)


==[[:Category:Suburb History]]==
::Yes, I realise that the BuildingStatus & Mall Logo templates now accept uppercase input. I am saying this is a ''bad'' thing.


Hey Rooster,
::It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages.


A few days ago, {{usr|Rosslessness}} suggested I help out with [[:Category:Suburb History]]. It was suggested I help out with it because I'm looking for jobs, and it was fairly neglected. Since then, I have noticed that you've been doing a lot of work on it, and Screenshots seem to be appearing out of nowhere. Is this just co-incidence, or would you like me to leave [[:Category:Suburb History]] alone and leave it for you to do? {{unsigned|Dezonus|12:00, 22 September 2010 (BST)}}
::I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way.
:I do indeed have it covered, I'm often working in the backwater categories of the wiki so don't mind me if things start going crazy. As for screenshots from nowhere, I uploaded over 700 via a bot account, which are cunningly set to be hidden by default on [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] so you don't have to put up with the spam. Fear not. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:07, 22 September 2010 (BST)


== Those DHPD User Pages Again ==
::Take a gander at [[Special:Wantedtemplates]], you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:::Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)
::::Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST)
:::::Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when [[The Dead 2.0]] swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST)


For my sins I've been put in charge of the DHPD Wiki pages so I'm revisiting that question of all the user pages in our category
== EMRs ==


I know you said you had left all the ones that had been edited, if only slightly but I was wondering if that was true of, for instance, all these
So you're back. I thought you'd be gone forever.


http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Aceofdiamonds
I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You ''did'' gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking ''"I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can"'' for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere.
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Albright
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:AmeliaPierce
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Brett_Day
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:F35
http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Joshua_Gray


(which only seem to have been edited by this Novelty person - whoever they are, unless I'm misreading the logs)
You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my [[User:Kittithaj/Sandbox#EMRP:_Reports_to_Process|Sandbox]] page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST)


I was also wondering about pages like this one:
:Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)


http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=User:Plash_Ricrem&action=history
I posted a question on the [[Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process]] talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)


Where the only edit seems to have been made, not by the User, but by their edit page?  How does that even happen?
:I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)


-- Sorry to bug you specifically, but you seemed like the obvious person to ask since we've discussed this before. {{User:Louise/PCatSig}} 18:21, 23 September 2010 (BST)
:: Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST)


:It seems somebody in the group copy pasted the same exact code onto each user page (riddled with typos). I got all the ones were the user was a non-existent account or the page had been unedited which suggested they didn't want it or didn't even know they had their own user page. The others do have tiny edits, but everybody seemed to keep that copy-paste code for reasons beyond me.
==Unused Image==
[[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif]] which you uploaded is currently [[Special:Unusedfiles|unused]] and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--[[User:Thegeneralbot|A helpful bot]] 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST)
:Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST)


:The revision history is wrong because Kevan had to clear out older edits on the server because they were slowing it down (maybe running low on disk space or maybe the software couldn't handle so many revisions). Those pages are all so old only the most recent edit survived.
== How Appropriate ==


:Plash's case was him editing the wrong page. His user page has a lower case r (and is blank, so you see the edit page when you click his name) but he was editing the page with an upper case R.
You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ...


:At the time I was helping out even though there's nothing to say I could actually nuke the spammed pages, but the edited ones ''might'' have been edited by the actual user and somebody ''might'' have cared enough to Miscontibate my ass on it. I'm a wimp, should've just nuked them all and saved you the bother.
It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


:Since I don't have sysopy powers anymore, I'll have to go through [[A/SD]] but I can't imagine anybody will object.
:Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)


:Good luck with the organising. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:59, 23 September 2010 (BST)
== EMR RtP shutdown ==


:: I'll need it. I guess I'll try contacting those players who are still around, see what their thoughts are.  Then I'll take it from there. Thanks! {{User:Louise/PCatSig}} 13:51, 25 September 2010 (BST)
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the [[User:ExternalMilitaryReportBot|EMRBot]] hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down [[EMRP: Reports to Process]]. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 
== [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif|Thankyou for this.]] ==
 
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Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --Gmoney 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

User boxes?

Hey, how do you make user boxes? --Suburb 22 Zombies 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST)

Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST)

I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{Mall Logo}}. See User:DangerReport/Bale Mall and Bale Mall. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~Vsig.png 00:57, 26 April 2011
Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST)
Yeah it converts the result of {{DRstatus}} to lower case. ~Vsig.png 01:16, 26 April 2011

Oh god. This makes things worse! -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)

The wiki update, I take it? --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST)
It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as The dead or the dead or tHe Dead or the DEad (the actual group is The Dead or the Dead). --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST)

Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in this category would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right.

I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST)

I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to automatically lowercase the status. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Ok let me step back.
Yes, I realise that the BuildingStatus & Mall Logo templates now accept uppercase input. I am saying this is a bad thing.
It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages.
I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way.
Take a gander at Special:Wantedtemplates, you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST)
Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when The Dead 2.0 swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --Akule Maker of fine, hand-crafted UDWiki sass since 2006 -- Akule School's back in session™ 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST)

EMRs

So you're back. I thought you'd be gone forever.

I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You did gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking "I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can" for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere.

You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my Sandbox page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- Kittithaj 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST)

Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)

I posted a question on the Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--UroguyTMZ 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)

I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST)
Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --UroguyTMZ 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST)

Unused Image

File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif which you uploaded is currently unused and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--A helpful bot 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST)

Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST)

How Appropriate

You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ...

It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --Maverick Talk - OBR Praise Knowledge! 404 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... -- User:The Rooster RoosterDragon User talk:The Rooster 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

EMR RtP shutdown

Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the EMRBot hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down EMRP: Reports to Process. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou for this.

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