UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Autoconfirmed Group

The Science.

SO is this a current feature that can be used, or would it require an upgrade? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Offhand, I think it is a current feature. =/ I'm not sure though. -- Cheese 20:25, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

It is a current feature which would merely require some configuration changes.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

More precisely, adding:

$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['move'] = true;

changing: $wgAutoConfirmAge = 0; to $wgAutoConfirmAge = 3600*24*2

and: $wgAutoConfirmCount = 0; to $wgAutoConfirmCount = 50;--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

So Kevan would have to set it up? Would it not be prudent to ask if this is something he'd approve of? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but it's a 5 minute job at most.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

What is semi-protection? --Toejam 20:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Users who are autoconfirmed can edit it and those who aren't can't. In other words, newly created accounts can't while established users can. -- Cheese 20:48, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. BTW: You've just reminded me of the word I was looking for to describe users with autoconfirm in the policy :D.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Im not sure about protections. Moving I can see, but protections could be more trouble than its worth. (the odd user, throwing his weight around, to protect a page he wants preserving). How would this be accountable? Could the privileged be revoked? --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

No, sysops still protect if this is active. Semi-protection means you can limit the editors to established, autoconfirmed users, making them more trouble to vandalise. -- Cheese 20:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Yup, theory being that few vandals will bother to make 50 good edits for the sake of vandalising one page (Which would likely be reverted in 2 minutes flat, being a high-visibility page). It makes vandalism-sprees all but impossible.--The General ^{T Sys U! P! F!} 20:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

But would users have to record their protections anywhere? I mean. In pretty much whatever form it takes, I'd get these privileges (14 months, 14,000 ish edits), and it would be useful, but, say like in the current arbies case between marty banks and a member of the dead, would the temptation just be to protect the burb page in question after making the edits you wish? A lot of new users wouldn't know how to overturn such a move, or even what was going on. Would certain pages have this protection in place? (Guides, Skills pages etc?) --Rosslessness^{Want a Location Image?} 20:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

As far as i understood this thing, the user simply becomes able to move pages after being autoconfirmed, and to edit semi-protected pages. The autoconfirmed user is not able to protect pages so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it, that's still a sysop action. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{talk mod} 21:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)