Suggestion:20090419 Bloody Clothes Layering

Bloody Clothes Layering

Timestamp:	Slicer 03:34, 19 April 2009 (BST)
Type:	Flavor improvement
Scope:	All players
Description:	Outer layers of clothing should be either "torn" or "blood-soaked" before the layer below it can get blood on it. For clothing made of plastic/vinyl (raincoats), the raincoat must be at least "torn" before blood can get through it. Similarly, an outer layer of clothes must be at a greater damage level ("ripped", "torn", "tattered", etc) than the layers below it.

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Keep Votes

1. Author Keep This feels more like a bugfix/logic thing than an actual suggestion. Slicer 03:36, 19 April 2009 (BST)
2. Keep - makes sense to me. -CaptainVideo 12:31, 19 April 2009 (BST)
3. Keep - The harmans need an update that is a useful as this. -- . . <== DDR Approved Editor 09:58, 21 April 2009 (BST)

Kill Votes

1. Kill - Totally unnecessary, but it doesn't warrant a spam vote. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) OFFLINE 08:04, 19 April 2009 (BST)
2. Kill - Pointless. --Pvt human 11:30, 19 April 2009 (BST)
3. Kill - Your inner layer could have been bloodied before the outer layer got put on... oh, and this is a totally un-necessary level of realism -- boxy ^{talk • teh rulz} 12:15 19 April 2009 (BST)
4. Kill - Sounds too complicated for the clothing system because each clothing in individual and they all have their chances of being damaged.--Kez0 13:59, 19 April 2009 (BST)
5. Kill - Unnecessary. --Maverick ^{Talk - OBR 404} 14:06, 19 April 2009 (BST)
6. Kill - While it makes sense, and is realistic, it adds absolutely no value to the game whatsoever. Not even flavor. --Fujiko Mine 15:59, 19 April 2009 (BST)
7. Kill - Nice idea, but too much complication for something that has too little effect on the game. Does NOT warrant a SPAM vote though.--Zombie Lord 18:19, 19 April 2009 (BST)
8. Kill - What's the point... it's really kind of useless and will just confuse people. Also I agree with people above, should not warrant a spam vote. --ScaredPlayer 22:51, 19 April 2009 (BST)
9. As Haliman in Spam, but with a lot less spam. --•▬ ▬••▬ • •••• •▬ ▬•▬• ▬•▬ ^{#nerftemplatedsigs} (status:‎Mudkip!) 23:42, 19 April 2009 (BST)
10. As Axe Hack, but as Bob Boberton rather than Haliman. ᚱᛁᚹᛖᚾᚨᚾᛏ 07:56, 20 April 2009 (BST)
11. Kill - Yay, both pointless AND stupid! --Johnny Bass 16:45, 21 April 2009 (BST)
12. Kill - Can't see how this warrants a fix. --Winton 05:31, 22 April 2009 (BST)
13. Kill - An pointless change which only a small percentage of people would actually notce.--^TCAPD(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻ 20:09, 22 April 2009 (BST)
14. Kill - It's a good basic concept, there are just too many flaws. How is a zombie not able to damage two layers at once when he mauls you? Why would your blood get on your raincoat before it gets on a lower layer? And most importantly, what does this actually add to the game?

Spam/Dupe Votes

1. Spam - Unneeded change. --Haliman - Talk 04:22, 19 April 2009 (BST)
2. Spam - You can wear raincoats etc. open, and as Haliman. --Bob Boberton ^{TF / DW} 06:48, 19 April 2009 (BST)
3. Spam - Useless --OrangeGaf ^Talk! 22:44, 20 April 2009 (BST)
4. Spam' - Has nobody considered that if you were bitten and bleeding it would, in fact, be the INNER layer that gets the most blood on it? --YoEleven 10:54, 23 April 2009 (BST)

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