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| | == EMR BOT == |
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| == CONTRIB WATCHING ==
| | Is the bot still alive? I've been updating some of the talk pages. Please respond. --[[User:Gmoney|Gmoney]] 09:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC) |
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| You probably already know this, but you've been added onto the [[:Image:Contribs.jpg|contribution monitoring service]]. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 14:49, 24 August 2009 (BST)
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| == [[:Image:Example.jpg]] ==
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| If you're not wanting it overwritten by teh newbs you can get it protected. I've just tested it out and you can't overwrite a protected image as a regular user. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 21:58, 25 August 2009 (BST)
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| :Most excellent! To [[A/PT]]! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:03, 25 August 2009 (BST)
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| == Crazy EMRP idea ==
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| I'm sure you've been asked something along these lines before, but what are the odds you could create a bot that could analyze external military reports and update danger reports accordingly? So if say, Johnny posts a EMRP to be filed for Yagoton, and the bot sees the words "The Whatmore Building", it could use that section of the report (bounded by the ellipsis's on both sides) to update the building's Danger Report?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:21, 28 August 2009 (BST)
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| :I had been working on just such functionality a good while back, but then a bunch of users started recording manually (and they still are) so I focused on some other stuff instead. Guess I should probably think about finishing that off. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:46, 28 August 2009 (BST)
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| ::That "bunch of users" is, for the most part, [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] and myself =P all considered, a bot would be a real time saver, and would be less mistake prone.
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| ::Also, a bit more complicated, would it be possible to program a bot that can use the "serious collateral damage", "infrastructure intact", "only one building with power". etc. blurbs to infer status reports (on the multitude of 'unknown' buildings)?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 23:54, 28 August 2009 (BST)
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| :::Is there enough information for that? I don't think you'd have enough to nail down a specific status for these buildings with any degree of certainty. Unlike named buildings which get a general status indicator and a horde (or lack thereof) report. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 00:22, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| ::::My idea was for something that could just ball-park guess unknown staus reports off of the military.It would use the extreme infrastructure and power reports (and zombie counts) to make a logical guess at what the unknown, really-out-of-date reports were (i.e. EMRP states the suburb is "wrecked" and without power; therefore St. Phony Hospital, which has an unknown status and hasn't been updated in well over a month, is likely ruined). If this were to work, it would just replace reports marked 'unknown', since such a system would be a ''little'' too inaccurate to replace real reports. The way I see it, inferred reports, while far from ideal, would be better than a wall of unknowns. Am I making any sense?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:10, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| :::::I guess you could get away with it for extremes. You'd need blanket ruined/intact though, otherwise you wouldn't have enough information about individual buildings. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 01:23, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| ::::::Yeah, I'll admit the idea's a bit of a stretch. All the same, the more extreme reports aren't particularily uncommon.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:30, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| :::::::Well, I'll see what I can come up with. Gotta get it working before we can consider having it guess at stuff, after all :P. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 01:36, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| Ok, just ran the thing on the backlog of reports. A good thing too, it seems the manual updating suddenly became much more patchy. Talk about timing. Anyway, I noticed a few minor errors I was able to patch on the fly. If you notice anything odd over the next few days and updates please shout. See the bot's log for a comprehensive list of changes.
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| One thing I spotted was that when logging reports, the bot posts a timestamp sans the timezone. It's actually always done this. Should I add the timestamp back in? I'd probably have to fix a lot of logs retroactively but guessing the timezone won't be a problem at least. On the bot's log I've already noticed the red links. The bot would update the disambiguated page but didn't record that name properly. I've fixed it so that fix should show up in the next record.
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| Also, I'm still working on the "horde building" functionality. That's when you get a report "maybe 20 zombies outside the Specific Building" which happens so rarely I didn't worry much about it. That and it requires a lot of extra code because it can be any building whereas the general building reports are limited to strategic buildings. I ''did'' make it so that if this building is also reported on again in general status, the reports would be combined, but this failed :P
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| All that said, things look pretty good. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:35, 3 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Well, so far, so good. From my experience the "horde building" reports are for the most part limited to hospitals and police departments, and generally say "a dozen" or "twenty". Considering that a lot of these buldings share the same name, I could see how it could become a problem.
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| :Not sure if you noticed this or if it would even help, but I noticed specific buildings appear to have specific messages (A is reported "being held" when safe, B "power's on"). I might be wrong, but if this is the case it could come in handy.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 02:18, 5 September 2009 (BST)
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| The reason I edit more recently is because [[User:Rat of Steel|Rat of Steel]] keeps editing a lot of bot-doable edits. And he make mistakes more than once, including a deletion of important suburb data. Despite the fact that I warned him twice about leaving those tiresome edits to our EMR bot and focusing on quality mistake-free edits, he ignores me and continues to add more of them, making mistakes along the way. I even suspect he is another bot himself, because his edit pattern is very repetitive, and he never replies back any comments and criticisms. So, to prevent more damage, I take the matter in my own hands and edit those things before he does.
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| Anyway, the new bot feature is good. So it lessen my and Red Hawk One's works updating those buildings manually. Things that can be automated furthermore are blanket reports like '''"infrastructure looks intact"''' and '''"the whole suburb is wrecked."''' Even '''"only Specific Building with power"''' can still be automated (for the said building, but not anywhere else.) The same thing can be done for '''"being held"''', '''"lights are on."''' Even just the word '''"definitely..."''' can be added as ruined (because it always follows by '''"...fallen."''') Still, many fuzzy details need human ingenuity to deal with.
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| For the horde building, as far as I can remember, all of them are important strategic buildings. So, no need to worry about unimportant buildings that have no danger reports (you've removed them all, right?) And even if such a case comes up, can't you just order the bot to skip it? And the duplicate names aren't going to be a problem. Because the name of the suburb is always right there at the beginning of the report. It won't be too hard to add it to make a specific report on said suburb's building.
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| And, this is a ''very'' minor detail, but malls don't use '''"ruined"''' in their danger reports, but the bot reports fallen mall that way. I do understand that '''"in zombie hands"''' needs visual confirmation of the zombie number inside. And people sometimes add wrong tags as well. So, if it's too much of a bother, you don't need to fix it. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 11:20, 5 September 2009 (BST)
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| '''P.S.''' About the missing timezone stamps, I think of the same way. It's nice to have them fixed. But only the most fuzzy people (like us) will care. If it's too much hard work for you, then leave it alone. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 12:17, 5 September 2009 (BST)
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| :All good feedback chaps.
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| :I'll look into adding smarter treatment of certain strings later, for now I just want to ensure it's doing the basic idea correctly. So:
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| :Malls using "ruined", I'll adjust that to ransacked, that was just an oversight on my part. As far as using ruined v in zombie hands. It's a debatable choice. I prefer ruined since that's all the military can be sure of. Though I'm willing to change it.
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| :Also, to be clear on the terminology I'm using on the fly here, here's an example report:
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| :<code>25.96 MHz: "... reporting from '''Suburb''', I've got about forty active ... a horde of twenty or so outside '''the Horde Building''' ... lights are on across the suburb ... infrastructure looks intact too ... some survivor activity in '''Strategic Building One''' ... '''Strategic Building Two''' has definitely fallen ..." (10 hours and 55 minutes ago)</code>
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| :Strategic Buildings are Forts, Malls and NTs (just something I made up with when I created the map) but I later realized the military only report on these locations, as far as I can tell, for the last two sections of the report. The "Horde" building is just the building the military notices has a lot of zombies outside. There's rarely enough for them to say anything other than "a few small groups" or whatever. Strategic buildings are limited to forts, malls and NTs which are easy to deal with. The horde building can be literally any building in the suburb however. Including "blah, horde, blah - outside a factory" which is of limited use :P. This is more difficult to deal with as I need to alter the in-game name to the wiki version, and possibly disambiguate by suburb and then maybe even co-ords for a few rare buildings. That and the horde building might also appear later in the same report as a strategic building. If it's a generic building (like a factory), but that building is the only one of its type in the suburb, a report could still be sought out. So getting comprehensive and correct reports for horde buildings could take a little while, and since they're so rare I didn't make it a priority.
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| :I'm still trying to think of a good method of identifying the cut-off transmissions and filling in the blanks. The bot just ignores them if it can't match an entire statement, so you guys can do those reports using your superior human ability to extrapolate if you like.
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| :Not sure about the extreme conditions yet though. Might wait until the extraneous reports are purged. Otherwise it could entail like 50 read/write requests which is added server load, but mostly damned boring to sit through when I'm processing them.
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| :Finally, the timestamps, I'll fix the bot so it logs new reports with timezones. It would be a bit much to fix all the old ones for me though. (But not for another bot, of course :P) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 18:36, 5 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::Funny, I could have sworn the "Horde Building" was only either a hospital or police department. A bit off topic here, but any chance you could have a bot check [[:Category:Confirmed Groups]] against [http://www.urbandead.com/stats.html the stats page]? I tried doing it by hand but it was even too tedious for ''me''.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 02:12, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| :::Okay, perhaps I misuse the term "important strategic buildings." The correct term I should use is "important resource buildings." So, sorry for the confusion. And I can somewhat confirm Red Hawk One's observation. Those horde buildings are resource buildings. I'm not sure if they're restricted to just hospitals and PDs like he said. But I believe unimportant building (one that doesn't need and shouldn't have a Danger Report) is never reported with zombies outside on External Military Radio.
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| :::And, yes, '''"ruined"''' and '''"ransacked"''' are correct statuses for the automated bot update. Without a real scout looking at the number of zombies inside a building, '''"in zombie hands"''' can't be use.
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| :::Don't worry too much about strange cases and minor exceptions. You don't have to spend time writing your bot to cover them. Those things are better be handled with human intelligence. After all, robots are designed to do tedious, boring, and easy stuffs, leaving humans free to do creative things.
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| :::By the way, about Red Hawk One's project, the Confirmed Groups category is overused. But what are you going to do about it? You'll piss a lot of people if you try to remove that tag from their group pages. Also, an umbrella group like [[Dulston Alliance]] is big and very alive, but nobody is using that name to mark his/her group. Instead they use names of subgroups inside it. Removing such groups because they don't show up is strange and counter-intuitive. Just a thought. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 17:55, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::::While organizations like the DA obviously exist, the category ''is'' for confirmed stats-page groups; technically they shouldn't even be on there in the first place. Of course, it wouldn't be to hard to manually go back and re-add organizations to the list.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 22:16, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| :::::It's a dumb category all things considered.
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| :::::For horde buildings, I ''swear'' I've seen reports for some insignificant buildings and even a report for "a factory" like I mentioned. Guess I'll have to look though some records and see if I'm remembering right. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 14:43, 7 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::::::Well, Red Hawk One, you are correct. I won't argue with you on that. After all, you're just trying to enforce the rule laid down by the [[User:Vantar|category creator]]. But as I said, some won't understand why that their 9-man group is tossed out. So be careful! You should put in the reason for category removal on edit summary of their group page (copy and paste works best here) so they understand and won't add it back/flame you.
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| ::::::Perhaps the category should be renamed somewhat? The word '''"Confirmed Group"''' actually means a group that really exists and not made up by one guy. So that's why it is so misunderstood and overused. How about '''"Group Bigger Than Ten Members"'''? I know it's a bit too direct. But no one can mistook ''that''.
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| ::::::And, The Rooster, if you say so, then I believe you. After all, I'm just posting them. You're the one who goes through all those EMRs. And if it's the case, can't you just order the bot to skip generic buildings without Danger Reports? -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 20:15, 7 September 2009 (BST)
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| == a/sd category usage ==
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| I was watching you tag some templates with [[template:speedydelete]], I was wondering, any way to template that category [[:category:Speedy Deletion Candidates]] onto the Speedy Deletion Queue permanently so pages with speedydelete template can be reviewed through a/sd? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 16:50, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| :Transplant A/SD onto the category page. Then the listing appears at the end. I know of no method to directly transclude category members. See what the other wiki has to say on the matter. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 16:56, 29 August 2009 (BST)
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| == A/DM table ==
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| Don't get it... Vista, Firefox, coding is fine. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 09:11, 31 August 2009 (BST)
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| :Looks fine to me (IE and FF). {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:16, 31 August 2009 (BST)
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| :<nowiki>;_;</nowiki> --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 23:11, 31 August 2009 (BST)
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| Ha! Look at it now!
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| [[Image:Broked2.jpg]]
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| It just won't stop! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 23:25, 31 August 2009 (BST)
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| :Still fine here. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:56, 1 September 2009 (BST)
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| Try hitting Ctrl-0 (zero, not oh) on that page. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 23:08, 1 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Thanks. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 00:08, 2 September 2009 (BST)
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| <nowiki>*walks away mumbling quietly about how much he hates Vista*...</nowiki> --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 15:06, 3 September 2009 (BST)
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| == minimaps ==
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| There are a few pages created by your bulkupdatesbot that are on the orphans page. [[Brooke Hills/Minimap]], [[Brooksville/Minimap]], and [[Buttonville/Minimap]]. Were these supposed to be integrated into the suburb page? Are they the images being used, just still showing up as orphans somehow? --{{User:Nubis/sig}} 06:16, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| :They're being transcluded onto those suburb pages, but appear as orphans as they have no other incoming links. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 15:05, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::Is there a way we could make a page to dump them on for proper links? That way the orphan listing is more accurate and saves time when going through it.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 19:24, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| :::I altered [[Template:Suburb]] which trancludes these templates so it also provides a normal link to them. That should fix your orphan problem without the need for an ark. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 20:03, 6 September 2009 (BST)
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| == Protect ==
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| Those signature pages. It'll make things easier. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:45, 8 September 2009 (BST)
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| :And to think I was just popping in before I logged off for the night... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 01:49, 8 September 2009 (BST)
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| :But then the vandals win! [[User:Nil gold|Nil gold]] 01:52, 8 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::Ugh. Can't we just block registration for an hour or so until this guy calms down?--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 01:55, 8 September 2009 (BST)
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| :::May just have a bunch of old accounts sitting around for just this purpose. --'''[[User:BobBoberton|<span style="color: #FF4500">Bob Boberton</span>]] <sup>[[The_Fortress|<span style="color: #6B8E23">TF</span>]] / [[The_Fortress/Dark_Watch|<span style="color: #778899 ">DW</span>]]</sup>''' [[Image:Littlemudkipsig.gif]] 01:58, 8 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::::Good catch with those two, Rooster.--{{:User:Red Hawk One/sig}} 02:37, 8 September 2009 (BST)
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| == Regarding Whittenside ==
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| [[Talk:EMRP: Whittenside|EMR]] ''25.96 MHz: "... leaving Whittenside, counted about forty outside ... all stragglers, no groups ... can't see any signs of life ... it's a wasteland down there ... Fort Perryn is looking wrecked ..."''
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| Its [[User:DangerReport/Whittenside|Danger Level]] was at '''a ghost town''' since September 5. Today's the bot changed it to '''dangerous'''. Let's compare the two:
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| *'''dangerous''' - Zombies inside many resource buildings; OR hostile mobs of 50+.
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| *'''a ghost town''' - At least 2/3 of the suburb's buildings either empty of Survivors or Ransacked/Ruined AND max 60 zombies in suburb and no zombie groups above 10.
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| Isn't '''a ghost town''' more fitting? Only 40 zombies are there. Everything is wrecked. No lights whatsoever. I was very surprised by the change, and decided to change it back. The bot seems to contradict the levels, which are also written by yourself. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 23:27, 11 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Not written by myself, they've been around since forever.
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| :Let me dig up my code for estimating the levels ... here we go:
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| :* 3-star infrastructure, default to safe. M.D if zed >=30, D if zed >= 50, V.D if zed >= 100
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| :* 2-star infrastructure, default to M.D, safe if zed <= 12, D if zed >= 50, V.D if zed >= 80
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| :* 1-star infrastructure, default to D, M.D if zed <= 30, GT if zed <= 20, V.D if zed >= 60
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| :* 0-star infrastructure, default to V.D, D if zed <= 50, GT if zed <= 20
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| :So it estimates ghost town for 0 or 1 star infrastructures with 20 zeds or less outside. Otherwise it estimates a low(er) level of danger. My reasoning was that if there's 40 outside, there's probably a bunch more spread around inside buildings leading to a dangerous rating of some sort. Obviously it's all just wild assumptions, but there's not much else to go on.
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| :So, yeah it's all adjusted somewhat, but it can be tweaked if you think it's significantly off. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 15:49, 12 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Don't let hagnat know that you attributed his creation to someone else... He's bad enough when people ''don't'' mention his past work... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|Chartreuse}}-- 10:32, 19 September 2009 (BST)
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| So Hagnat wrote the levels? Well, since all the history prior to 2007 were mysteriously removed, and I wasn't here before that, I never know who started it.
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| Anyway, interesting estimation, The Rooster. So, this means EMRs only count the number of zombies outside? I have just known that. This is kind of make sense since they *cough*Kevan*cough* are counting it from military helicopters.
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| Anyway, I have found some info that might be of interest, if you haven't already known it, that is:
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| [[Talk:EMRP: Edgecombe|EMR]] ''25.96 MHz: "... about forty in Edgecombe ... mostly just small groups ... a lot of buildings with lights on ... infrastructure looks intact ... power's on at the Caffin Building ... the Maver Building has fallen - repeat, the Maver Building has fallen ..."''
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| The report said infrastructure looks intact, yet the last part said a Necrotech building has fallen. So, '''"infrastructure looks intact"''' is not the same as '''"can't see a single ruined building"''', and it's not a blanket term indicating all buildings are safe, as I once thought.
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| This could change the way EMR Summaries are updated. But perhaps that's a bit too hair-splitting. Besides, the current three star system works fine as it is. So, if it's too much of a trouble to change, then it don't need to be changed. It's just one quirk I think I should mention.
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| Now I wonder if there is an EMR with '''"can't see a single ruined building"''' and a downed building reported afterward... -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 20:57, 21 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Everybody seems to think it's outside zombie counts to the extent that I believe them, though I've never found any wiki pages with some nice screens proving it. The "looks intact" must indicate that ''most'' buildings are intact, and that's enough for 3 stars in my book. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:31, 22 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Oh, and Kevan wipes page history occasionally to help the server out. It depends when he does it, but the history is generally a year or two tops. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:45, 22 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::I can give anecdotal evidence of the outside only rule. [[SFHNAS]] regularly encountered this problem. You can have 15 zombies meatshielding inside a building and the EMR still states "looking clear in kempsterbank" --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:23, 23 September 2009 (BST)
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| == OBR Ally Template ==
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| No need to respond, Rooster. Just dropping by to thank you for the contribution to the template. Much appreciated! :D --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:07, 15 September 2009 (BST)
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| == Suburb danger levels. ==
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| Any way of showing time since they were updated, or a bot that could reset to unknown those not updated in say a month? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:16, 18 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Add a user line so people can sign/timestamp the edit like the building reports. But do we ''really'' need such a function? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 01:02, 19 September 2009 (BST)
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| ::Nope, I was just curious to see. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:24, 19 September 2009 (BST)
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| == ghost in wiki catacomes ==
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| What's the go with, say [[:Category:Suggestion]]? Has one article in it which doesn't exist... It's shitting up my specialpages, but only wantedcategories, the invisible article isn't actually in special:uncategorisedpages or anything. Odd? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|Chartreuse}}-- 13:15, 25 September 2009 (BST)
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| :[[UDWiki:Administration/Speedy_Deletions/Archive/2008_10#Category|Discussed here]], does it have anything to do with the missed talk page on the ghost? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 13:37 25 September 2009 (BST)</small>
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| ::Ugh, so many bugs related to that one goddamn page. I bet these head-spinners could be fixed by Kevan just updating the wiki... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Silver}}-- 13:41, 25 September 2009 (BST)
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| :::My standing theory is that the buggered example suggestion page (Suggestion: make_suggestions their own pages) had these categories on. When the namespace became real, the space between it and the title caused a big error. Thus the page is a ghost that causes a few errors. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:55, 8 October 2009 (BST)
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| == May I use your template for my page? ==
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| I am looking to create a wiki page here, and I am new to all this so I am looking for interesting pages to use as inspiration. May I be allowed to use your page template with minor variations? Variations being obviously liking to my talk and what not with color variants, and text of course.
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| --[[User:Ash Brimstone|Ash Brimstone]] 23:05, 25 September 2009 (BST)
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| :You can do with it as you like. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:45, 8 October 2009 (BST)
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| == helpo ==
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| I know you aren't around usually so I'll just be brief and say if you find this and you have the time, I need someone who is better than me at coding for [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Barricade_Plan_Template_--_District_Version|this relatively simple task]]. Help out? TIA. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Silver}}-- 13:56, 30 September 2009 (BST)
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| :Thanks for totally archiving that topic a mere week after posting this and making me dig through the page history. Anyway, have seen. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 13:01, 8 October 2009 (BST)
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| == Your recent changes to Map Colours. ==
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| Now when they show up on the suburb page, all NT building coordinates appeared in '''black'''. For example, in [[Raines Hills]] page, three different statuses, Safe, Rebuilding, and Rot Revive, are all black. This happens on '''both''' IE and Firefox.
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| Please do something to correct this. I don't want to just revert them all, because that could cause some unwanted side effects. You're the only one who knows how the system works, thus the only one who can fix it. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 23:05, 21 October 2009 (BST) | |
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| :Fixed I believe. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 09:09, 22 October 2009 (BST)
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| ::I see. One little <code>#</code> symbol makes all the differences. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 20:46, 22 October 2009 (BST)
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| :::Well, the intention of my change was to move the hash from the colours to the formatters. So it's natural it would be the culprit :) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:08, 22 October 2009 (BST)
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| Do you know how I could make [[Template:Status]] show a different co-ordinate based on which TRP it's User:DangerReport-ing? {{User:Rorybob/Sig}}20:52, 22 October 2009 (BST)
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| :The variable '''<nowiki>{{{xy}}}</nowiki>''' contains the co-ords. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:29, 22 October 2009 (BST)
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| "The signature comes up and throws the timstamp in a box under the sig! [[User:Medico/sig|1]]!" --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 12:26, 24 October 2009 (BST)
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| :May be a span tag problem, haven't been able to see the prob yet. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 12:28, 24 October 2009 (BST)
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| ::The first rule of signatures: It's ''always'' a span tag problem. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 17:33, 24 October 2009 (BST)
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| :::Ty! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DarkSlateGray|Indigo}}-- 01:08, 25 October 2009 (BST)
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| ****[[:Category:Monroeville|Monroeville]] - Needs attention on everything.
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| *****This has subcategories requiring attention.
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| How does it need sorting? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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| :Well the locations need sorting into proper categories. Do we need "Monroeville Locations" and "Monroeville Suburbs" categories akin to Malton's "Locations" and "Suburbs"? The groups need sorting out a bit. Checking to see what misc pages shouldn't be in the Monroeville category (and which ones are missing) would be helpful. There's some loose templates that can go into the Monroeville templates category etc etc. Just common sense stuff. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 13:40, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Same with [[Borehamwood|the birthday boy]]? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Ideally it'll follow Malton's system.
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| :::*Malton>Locations>Some Building Type>List of those buildings
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| :::but we only need that if there's enough locations to bother keeping pages for in the long term. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 13:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
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| | Hey, how do you make user boxes? --[[User:Suburb 22 Zombies|Suburb 22 Zombies]] 03:37, 17 April 2011 (BST) |
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| An interesting revise of the system. Still, if you ask me, I prefer the older, smaller one. All those building information are duplicates of the Suburb Map, shown in the Suburb page directly under it. So they're kind of redundant.
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| | Does it need to be case sensitive? Lots of people tend to make the first letter upper-case. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 00:30, 26 April 2011 (BST) |
| | :I made a change so that whichever case is used during the update, it is converted to lower case for the purpose of {{tl|Mall Logo}}. See [[User:DangerReport/Bale Mall]] and [[Bale Mall]]. The former has upper case Ruined, yet the Bal Mall logo is the correct logo (ruined). ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>00:57, 26 April 2011</sub> |
| | ::Gotcha. So it converts all of the text to be lowercase. Nice. :D --{{User:Akule/sig}} 01:06, 26 April 2011 (BST) |
| | :::Yeah it converts the result of {{tl|DRstatus}} to lower case. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>01:16, 26 April 2011</sub> |
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| As usual with all major changes, I decide to archive old versions of the barricade plans under my own namespace. In case there are problems, and the history is not available (i.e. deleted by Kevan), they can always be retrieved from there.
| | Oh god. This makes things ''worse''! {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :The wiki update, I take it? --{{User:Akule/sig}} 22:47, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | ::Accepting uppercase input. Basically breaks a dozen other templates if it's used. But it's hardly world-endingly bad. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 22:50, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :::It makes for some unusual problems, as people can make variant group names just by altering case. Such as [[The dead]] or [[the dead]] or [[tHe Dead]] or [[the DEad]] (the actual group is [[The Dead]] or [[the Dead]]). --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:01, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| While I was archiving them, I found a problem regarding [[Earletown Barricade Plan]]. You see, there were two conflicting barricade plans for Earletown. One was designed by [[BOW]], and called [[BOW/Suicide Prevention Protocol|Suicide Prevention Protocol]]. The other is the one currently in use.
| | Nonono. I mean accepting "Ruined" v "ruined" in the template. Long story short, probably all the templates in [[:Category:DangerReport Formatting Templates|this category]] would also need this fix which honestly is more effort for maintenance than users just getting it right. |
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| I have voiced this concern with [[User_talk:DanceDanceRevolution#Earletown_Barricade_Plan|DanceDanceRevolution]] before. But we couldn't find a conclusion due to the lack of response from both parties. I myself think BOW's one was better designed. And yet I don't want to change it back because it's not my business. Then today, after the new template was put in place, all former barricade images were deleted. | | I didn't mean anything regarding the wiki update. Names have always been case sensitive as I recall, so that's nothing new. (The automatic redirect regardless of the first letters case was also there before) {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:06, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :I pointed the problem out to people, so Vapor formatted the base template to [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Template%3ABuildingStatus&action=historysubmit&diff=1881400&oldid=1527038 automatically lowercase the status]. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:21, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| I believe the current Barricade Plan is [[:Image:EBP.jpg]]. So the picture can stay deleted. The BOW's plan, however, is in [[:Image:BOWbarricade.jpg]]. Is there anyway to recover that back? Until this problem is resolved, there should be two separate pages. One for the current Earletown Barricade Plan. And one for BOW's plan. The page BOW/Suicide Prevention Protocol shouldn't be redirected to Earletown Barricade Plan either, since it's not theirs and both plans are completely different.
| | ::Yes, I realise that the BuildingStatus & Mall Logo templates now accept uppercase input. I am saying this is a ''bad'' thing. |
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| And to prevent similar problems from happening again, I think you should leave any barricade plan within userspace/groupspace or has group name attach to it intact (no editing, no redirecting.) And only work on the neutral '''<Suburb> Barricade Plan''' pages/templates instead. After all, a group barricade plan belongs to that group. Let them decide if they want to switch to the new template or not. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 03:11, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
| | ::It breaks all those other templates which use the status variable, but didn't get changed. Plus since the uppercase input now "works" on the report template, people use it without realising it causes other breakages. |
| :Rooster can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the intention was merely to use the new template for the '''<Suburb> Barricade Plan''' pages and templates. The wrench in it all is that some suburbs (like [[Earletown]]) do not have these pages or have redirects set up to go to a page in a group's namespace. You can certainly speed up the process by posting the Move Request for the sysops to deal with, otherwise it'll be taken care of in due time. I know Rooster is updating the '''Template: <Suburb> Barricade Plan''' pages, and I am doing so as well. But with only the two of us it will still take some time. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 07:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I think this is a bit of a screw up on my end. All these goddamned plans. I originally moved the BOW plan to the Eraletown page because it was linked to and Earletown Barricade Plan redirected into it, it had also been tagged. I imagine I then later ran across the template, thought it was more recent and then just blindly copy-pasted over the image having forgotten my earlier move, hell I even changed the tag to unreviewed as a result. | | ::I'm saying it's less effort for user to just correct it if they do it wrong (which they'd notice with a broken image link) then to apply the lowercase logic on all templates that access the status in some way. |
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| ::I've managed to save the BOW plan from the almighty google cache. Since the "EBP" image was unattributed to any group, and that's the one I based the template off, I think you're right in that it can stay deleted. I'll restore the BOW page as a separate entity from the plan and fix up the text. Thanks for pointing this out. | | ::Take a gander at [[Special:Wantedtemplates]], you'll notice several templates with an uppercase status being requested, and they don't exist so there'll be derped results somewhere. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:30, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :::Ah, gotcha. I didn't realize it caused other breakages. Can we go through the rest of the templates to fix them to make them as derp proof as possible? I only ask because I imagine that the people who will not care about the casing will make more work for those of us who do care in the long run. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:40, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | ::::Well... if it really matters in the long run... then yeah. I'll get around to it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 23:52, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
| | :::::Whenever you can is fine. I had just originally brought it up as various users (mainly new ones) kept breaking the various status templates when [[The Dead 2.0]] swept over the land. I didn't want to end up changing them, as I don't have a strong understanding of wikicode. Thank you in advance. --{{User:Akule/sig}} 23:59, 2 June 2011 (BST) |
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| ::I'll tread more carefully around the weird special cases. Man I wish this wiki were better at picking a scheme and sticking to it. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 08:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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| ::PS: I forgot to mention, we designed two templates. The large one you see by default, and also a smaller one which looks more like the original. Try calling '''<nowiki>{{Dakerstown Barricade Plan|Small}}</nowiki>''' somewhere and you'll get a small version. Looks good on suburb pages, though of course barricade plans aren't meant to be on suburb pages to start with *que another rant about inconsistancy* {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 08:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
| | So you're back. I thought you'd be gone forever. |
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| ::PPS: Maverick: I might be cheating and using a script that turns out the whole plan and just needs me to enter the cade levels. Now it takes 5 minutes not 25 :D {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 08:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
| | I must admit, I'm quite ashamed of it myself. You ''did'' gave me the EMR Bot before leaving, but I never got the chance to use it, test it, or even learn it for that matter. I've been thinking ''"I must do it, for The Rooster is gone and no one else can"'' for months, but never bothered to run it even once, until the page clogged up and I had to move some old EMRs elsewhere. |
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| :::The script has made things infinitely faster. The entire NW quadrant is done. I'll be moving onto the SW tomorrow. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC) | | You can find those EMRs, archived from October 29th to November 30th, at my [[User:Kittithaj/Sandbox#EMRP:_Reports_to_Process|Sandbox]] page. Thank you for returning and working with them. And sorry I couldn't/didn't do something with them. -- [[User:Kittithaj|Kittithaj]] 02:13, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| | :Ah no worries, if nothing else you'd kept an immaculate log that would've done the job just fine anyway. I checked your backup and I did process all of those reports so they're safe to nuke. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| | I posted a question on the [[Talk:EMRP:_Reports_to_Process]] talk page but I'm hoping that you could answer the question since you're controlling the bot. Should all of the "Reports to Process Later" entries be moved to the "Reports to Process" heading? And should the lone report from Feb 28 then be wiped?--[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 03:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| :You need to change the Active/Inactive text colour templates as well. It doesn't make a difference for the blue one as they're both white but the inactive one is black on the slate one. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 13:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Ah yes. Danke! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 13:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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| | :I answered the talk page. I'll be messing around with the headers a bit until I catch up. No need to worry, just stick everything under "Later" for now. {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 07:20, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
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| Can I desecrate it?{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 02:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
| | :: Thanks I appreciate the explanation. --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 07:23, 4 June 2011 (BST) |
| :Of course. It's my fault you can too! :) --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:58, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I'd rather get it straight from the rooster's beak; when I decide to destroy a page, I don't dick around.
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| ::Also, SA will automatically get 7% of the mayhem I cause as royalties.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 02:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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| :But it was so beautiful... --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 03:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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| o sa u theving bitch.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 03:18, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
| | ==Unused Image== |
| :I am not a thieving bich.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 03:21, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
| | [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif]] which you uploaded is currently [[Special:Unusedfiles|unused]] and is subject to deletion if it is older than two weeks. If you wish to ensure that it remains on this wiki then you will need to ensure that it is included in at least one page on this wiki..--[[User:Thegeneralbot|A helpful bot]] 16:45, 14 June 2011 (BST) |
| ::No, ur a cunt.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 03:24, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
| | :Ironically, including the image is stupid since the wiki thumbnailer breaks horribly. *shrug* {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 12:23, 16 June 2011 (BST) |
| :::Agreed.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 03:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::we must respecs our Civilians Under Navel Training; they r imprnt ppls, and this r imprnt page.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 03:41, 16 November 2009 (UTC) | |
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| For some reason I missed it earlier, but I just now noticed your edit to [[:Image:SoC_short.png]]. I just wanted to say thanks for doing that, rather than outright removing the advertisement that it's associated with. You definitely went above the call of duty, and I wanted to make a point of singling you out and expressing my gratitude. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
| | You're like a zombie, you know that? You disappear, then for strange reasons you rise and shamble and get active again. I would call it curious were it not for your involvement over the years in a browser-based zombie apocalypse game... ... |
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| | It's good to see you again, Rooster. ;) --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 20:43, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
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| | :Thanks :) Although, thinking about it, I didn't play the game much... {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:18, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
| :It's a decent thought, why not raise it on the talk page? {{User:The_Rooster/Sig}} 21:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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| ::true. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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| Hey rooster. Thank you for your explanations on my talk page about [[:Category:Location Images]]. I've designed a little [[User:Giles Sednik/Sandbox3#test|template]] that would go on that page and replace the current subcat template, which doesn't appear to work as designed. Anyways, I'd just like to know what you think about the template in terms of it's usefulness and how it looks.
| | Hi! Just wanted to let you know that because the [[User:ExternalMilitaryReportBot|EMRBot]] hasn't been run in over two years, I'm shutting down [[EMRP: Reports to Process]]. New users still sometimes post EMRs there expecting them to be processed, so I've posted a sign at the top letting them know it's not active. If the Bot returns at some point, feel free to remove the sign and restart RtP. Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC) |
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| (edit) And, while we're on the subject, I wonder if you could check [[Category_talk:Location_Images|this conversation]] out and weigh in there with any relevant info. Thanks, you're the best!--{{User:Giles Sednik/sig}} 00:08, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
| | == [[:File:1001 Days in Urban Dead.gif|Thankyou for this.]] == |
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