User:Swiers: Make Suggestions Their Own Pages

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Note:

Details and discussion for this appear above in Talk:Suggestions#Every_New_Suggestion_On_Its_Own_Page and have been copied to [[Talk:Suggestion: make suggestions their own pages]], but (because this is not yet a suggestion that has been approved) the proposal and voting must be done here. Suggestion: make suggestions their own pages exists largely to allow development of the tools (categories etc) needed to make the suggestion here work smoothly. Bot this suggestion and Suggestion: make suggestions their own pages are simply attempts to bring forward the ideas expressed in Talk:Suggestions#Every_New_Suggestion_On_Its_Own_Page for voting, and no ownership or origination of said ideas is implied, nor does the author of the suggestion feel it is sole right or duty to implement the suggestion if passed. This is a wiki here, people- ideas in it are meant to be developed through community effort.

Suggestion:

I propose that all suggestions be made as separate pages, in the format Suggestion: this is a sample suggestion page. Category tags (to be determined later) would be used to organize and index pages. Authors would have the right to use almost any category(s) they felt appropriate, but would be REQUIRED to include the tags Category: suggestion dd Month yyyy as well as Category: suggestion for it to be valid for voting on. All the variations of Category: suggestion dd Month yyyy would always be sub-categories of Category: Suggestion meaning that the Category: suggestion page would always list the dates on which suggestions had been made, and clicking on those dates would take you to a page that listed all the suggestions made on that date. As suggestions were cycled and voted upon, their category tags would be further amended as appropriate per voting and cycling guidelines. --S.Wiers ^X:00 18:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

1. No - change the date format from American style to something more universally understandable, then I'll vote for. --Toejam 18:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

   Good idea. I've changed the date format to duplicate the one displayed in signature timestamps, making thier use a simple cut'n'paste opperation --S.Wiers ^X:00 18:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

2. No - Get someone else to re-propose this. Someone who can edit the wiki properly. Perhaps one of the people who actually came up with the idea in the first place. --Funt Solo 19:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

   You might not have noticed, but the vote immediately above this one is from the user who proposed the original idea. So "one of the people who actually came up with the idea in the first place" in fact made a very useful suggestion for a change (which was made) and otherwise seems unconcerned or perhaps supportive. I entirely invite others to make such suggestions and work on implementing the idea, and even to edit my work (if any) on the project: please do! You are right, my editing skills are still rough, but that in no way affects the utility of this suggestion. Argue Ad Hominem much? --S.Wiers ^X:00 20:59, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

3. Spam - Funt 1, Swiers 0--Gage 19:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

   Wiki community, -1, and sinking. --S.Wiers ^X:00 20:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

4. Dupe? i suggested something like this in april, and it failed. Anyway, i am voting dupe because i think there still need some stuff to be worked out in here. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[cloned] [mod]} 22:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

   May be a dupe- I was pretty confused by all those templates and such, but it did seem each suggestion was a page, and thus could get category tags, which is the sole point of the issue here, even if some details are vauge. Indeed, this is intended as an open-ended suggestion. Implementing it would not immediately change how votes were handled, but instead be a step towards developing a new system. The suggestion pages could be linked to in the same fashion as current suggestions are posted, or perhaps "curly brackets" could be used to insert the text from the suggestion: page into the relevant area- either of which would result in much less cut'n'paste work, and allow greater use of category tags for future indexing. I think its a poor idea to try and bring something as complex as the current voting system under revision in one fell swoop, so perhaps some intermediate steps that allow future revision can be developed more explicitely. --S.Wiers ^X:00 23:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

5. No - The idea of having each suggestion on a page of it's own is a great idea, unfortunately your implementation doesn't seem to be user friendly. It needs some working out, elsewhere, and discussion of the best way to go. And there are already Suggestions categories, and they're the ones that these pages should be included in, if it gets up and running -- boxy ^{T L ZS Nuts2U DA} 23:56, 10 February 2007 (UTC)