User talk:Tranhanam0027
In case you miss this when your latest Suggestions get spaminated: "People are voting you down because psychic powers are out of theme for a present-day zombie-apocalypse game, not because you haven't suggested quite the right mix of magic powers. If you've got some mechanics you want to see in the game, reword them so that they're gadgets or learned abilities." - voters spamming the original one might have been a bit harsh, but your four or five repostings of the same basic and unwanted psychic-power idea are spam. --Spiro 09:05, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Alright, it's just that I want to add some flavor to the game by adding stuff onto it. Games about psychic power like Psi Oops and F.E.A.R has been there, just don't close your mind off to creative ideas. --tranhanam0027 09:05, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Your suggestions are annoying and do not relate to the genre at all. Please stop posting them, before i have to blaze a trail to get you banned from the suggestions page. --Grim s 10:03, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Can you at least try to live with it? I know I'm annoying but I have passion to create something less annoy than what I did last time. You, in another word, are utterly annoying and do not have any passion at all --tranhanam0027 10:05, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- No. I vote spam on your stupid spam suggestions. --Grim s 10:31, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Why do you keep spaming me, I did nothing wrong! --tranhanam0027 10:32, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- Yes you did. You started with a badly thought out suggestions and you are living with the consequences of that suggestion. In future, think through your suggestion before posting it. It'll save you and everyone else a lot of trouble. --Nov 10:39, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- You did something wrong. The thing you did wrong was post it again and again. Shut up and stop posting it. --Grim s 10:43, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
You might want to take a look at the Suggestions_Dos_and_Do_Nots before you post anything else. All of your suggestions have been to create an entire new skill tree, using different cost mechanics and pre-populated with several skills, all of them fairly complex. The first thing on the suggestions page is to keep it simple. Your poison suggestion definitely wouldn't have been spaminated if it had been a single, simple suggestion - by presenting it as "version six" of your failed psychic ideas, putting too much into it, and shouting abuse at an established wiki user, you doomed it to spam votes. --Spiro 11:05, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- And to add to this, your suggestions don't seem to fit Urban Dead that well. If this was a game on Fantasy genre, they might be ok. Though for example, the poison suggestion was pretty overpowered, at least the third skill. --Brizth 11:10, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- I spam voted it because it was overpowered. There is also the fact that poison will not work on dead flesh, as the majority of poisons are enzyme inhibitors, and work to kill cells. With a zombie, you are dealing with animated dead flesh, and the rules of poisons dont apply. --Grim s 11:24, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- That seems a more complex and arguable rebuttal than a simple spam vote. Spamming it on the basis that we don't want RARH I HATE YOU on the Suggestions page is fair enough, but it wasn't too ridiculous in itself. --Spiro 11:29, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- By overpowered i meant to the extremes. I spam vote anything that is so overpowered it is game breaking or it has a mechanism that cannot reasonably be explained in an RP manner for a zombie apocalypse. The last one, cumulative with headshot was a massive game breaker. 20ap for a newbie to stand up? Give me a break. The fact was that i had already figured out that there were enough people circling the suggestions page like vultures to leap on his suggestion, so i didnt bother to explain it as thoroughly as i did here, and just posted my spam vote (With no small amount of personal satisfaction i might add, how could i not enjoy it when he was all but threatening me personally in the suggestion?) and i waited, chatting on IRC until two more had posted, then swiftly shuffled it off to peer rejected, like i had done to four of his previous suggestions. --Grim s 11:47, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- That seems a more complex and arguable rebuttal than a simple spam vote. Spamming it on the basis that we don't want RARH I HATE YOU on the Suggestions page is fair enough, but it wasn't too ridiculous in itself. --Spiro 11:29, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
- I spam voted it because it was overpowered. There is also the fact that poison will not work on dead flesh, as the majority of poisons are enzyme inhibitors, and work to kill cells. With a zombie, you are dealing with animated dead flesh, and the rules of poisons dont apply. --Grim s 11:24, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
The ironic thing is, I spent the last few days playing Psi-Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy, then I come back to the wiki and find this slew of ridiculous suggestions. - KingRaptor 14:09, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
Its a conspiracy along the lines of Deus Ex. Trust no-one. Except me :) -- Andrew McM 15:04, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
The problem is, you made no efforts whatsoever to understand how the suggestion page works, and what is considered a good or bad suggestion or why. Thus you made a lot of people mad...
Consider lurking (reading and not editing pages) for awhile until you learn how things work. People will forget you to some extent, and you'll learn what is a good suggestion and what isn't. Read the suggestion do's and don't. Read the older suggestions, both those accepted and those rejected. Learn what every good suggestion has, and how the game usualy works. And the next time you write a suggestion, stay as far away as possible from rejected suggestions when making your own suggestions. It takes experience to recognize and avoid those pitfalls. --McArrowni 15:35, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
i watched this entire thing Spark off. And saw EVERY original suggestion. I come back from a weekend of deus ex and far cry and what to a find? a set of ridiculously outlandish, overpowered, overly cheap skills. and i dont just find them once and kill them. i found them FIVE times. Give it up already. --Dark Wingstalker 19:32, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
I'm going to have to ask you, as a mod, to stop adding this suggestion to the page. We don't like it. It doesn't fit the game and it wouldn't work even if it did. If you add it again you'll get an official warning.--'STER-Talk-Mod 22:19, 31 Jan 2006 (GMT)
OK! OK! It's enough people! I'm not going to create another Psychic Rampage version again( And for those who are concern I'm going on a vacation for a week).I just want to add something onto the game .So, instead of continously spamming my suggestion why can't you just put it into the Humorous Suggestion Page? Oh and I DID read the Suggestion Dos and Do nots and Frequently Suggested Ideas Page. --tranhanam0027 3:03, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Everyone, I just created a change suggestion name of the Deads and the Livings so please view it and please don't just spam it. And it's not another version of psychic rampage. --tranhanam0027 3:44, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- We spaminated it. --Grim s 08:08, 1 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Just so you know, EXP farms are a BAD thing. --Grim s 13:09, 4 Feb 2006 (GMT)
For god's sake, please leave me and my suggestion alone. --tranhanam0027 11:09, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Stop making suggestions. Its a win/win situation. You dont post your utterly craptacular suggestions which annoy us, and we stop spaminating them, which annoys you. In case you hadnt noticed, you are not good at making suggestions. In fact, to say that a braindead monkey could easily make better suggestions than you is a vast understatement. Your passage through the suggestions page could be described as a person lurching from catastrophe to catastrophe, each ever larger than the last, as though you are constantly trying to outdo yourself in your search for supreme crappiness. --Grim s 10:44, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Quotin' dis. - KingRaptor 12:50, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Ha Ha Ha, very funny.--tranhanam0027 11:48, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- I wasnt kidding. You are THAT awful. --Grim s 15:49, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Please stop making suggestions. We just Spaminated your last one. --Grim s 15:06, 5 Feb 2006 (GMT)
tranhanam, STOP! Genetic wars, meta-human abilities, psychics, etc all have no place in this game. No suggestion of the sort will EVER no tget Spamminated because they do NOT belojng. You could spend a year wriiting it and we'd still Spam it. STOP. RIGHT. NOW. If you can't stop making suggestions, give me your address adn I'll come over there and destroy your PC - for the good of society. --Jak Rhee 00:56, 6 Feb 2006 (GMT)
And as I tried to explain earlier, complex skills will also fail. Not only is proposing an entire new skill tree massively arrogant, but if any one of those skills is broken or overpowered then your entire suggestion will fail. Felt a pang of guilt about voting spam to your latest psychic escapade, but you really aren't listening to what other users are trying to tell you. Proposals will fail if they are: Psychic. Complicated. --Spiro 01:29, 6 Feb 2006 (GMT)
OK! OK! I promise that I'll put no more than 3 skills up there from now on. And they are going to be simple.--Nam 01:35, 6 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Three simple skills = one non-simple suggestion. --Spiro 07:42, 6 Feb 2006 (GMT)
I'm gonna take a break (for a week, maybe?). Please don't send me messages unless it's very important. --Nam 8:52, 7 Feb 2006 (GMT)
- Change "a week" to "forever" and ill happily leave you alone. --Grim s 15:16, 7 Feb 2006 (GMT)
I'm a scientist. What are your profiles and maybe I can revive you. --TheTeeHeeMonster 00:28, 9 Feb 2006 (GMT)
"Here Comes Dr. Tran!" --ALIENwolve 05:51, 11 Feb 2006 (GMT)
I have reported you for vandalism of my user page with your stupid snide remark. --Grim s 17:51, 11 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Two characters in the same place or interacting with each other in a small area (a suburb for example) is against the rules, It is called zerging, and is one of the most hated ways of cheating, I suggest you remove one of them to another neigborhood. this is ofcourse with the assumption that you made your mistake in good faith. While some survivors hate zombies, some zombies hate survivors, everybody hates zergers. the people you are trying to defend will act against if you stay, and both your characters will be forcefully evicted if found. That way you help less then if you have only one account in the mall and its surrounding suburbs. surely you don't want to be unhelpful and surely you don't want to be a cheater. -- Vista 00:50, 12 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Please note that only mods have the authority to strikethrough unsigned or otherwise invalid votes. In addition, leaving messages on another user's Talk page is fine, but leaving them on their User page is not. Consider yourself warned.--'STER-Talk-Mod 08:37, 12 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Yes, we are happy now. You were zerging, which is a form of cheating. Our only regret is that we didn't get a chance to kill both of you and chuck your bodies outside for the horde to have their turn. --TheTeeHeeMonster 15:08, 13 Feb 2006 (GMT)
Your suggestions are getting worse. Please stop making them. --Grim s 22:06, 22 February 2006 (GMT)
- Grim, I do not see how being rude will stop him. If he didn't get it that way yet, it's time to try something else.
- Nam, please put more details into your suggestion next time. (I'm talkig about the corpse looting suggestion). Voters must vote on the suggestion as written, and on how it works as written. If you omit to say how it works, then technically a vote of keep or kill coudn't be justified since there is essentially nothing to vote on. Thus it is important for your suggestions to be clear and complete.
- Finally, I've caught glimpses of a conversation on zerging. Remember that those are serious matters. I would refer to the the FAQ for more info.
- Thank you, --McArrowni W! 04:00, 23 February 2006 (GMT)
Responding to what you said on your user page:
No, a personal attack would be saying: "You have all the wisdom of Mr Bean, The intelligence of Baldrick (Blackadder 2-4) and the creative talent of Uwe Boll." (Example insult only). Thats just me telling you to piss off (As in, go away from the suggestions page). --Grim s 09:00, 24 February 2006 (GMT)
- What are the people you told me in my message. And as long as you swear to my face, I'll keep adding suggestions (and will continue even if you stop swearing)AND add them to my page. (Tranhanam from my talk page)
- Mr Bean is the least wise character on TV, Baldrick from the Blackadder series is pathetically stupid, and Uwe Boll is a horrible movie director whon buys licenses to create a movie, creates a flop (Because he is incapable of creating a good movie) and gets to make money from it due to a legal loophole that is being closed sometime in the next year. Furthermore, telling people to piss off isnt swearing. Its not polite, but it isnt swearing. --Grim s 20:31, 24 February 2006 (GMT)
- Bad comparison: Mr Bean is funny, while Tranhanam most certainly is not. :P - KingRaptor 03:01, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
- I was only comparing the wisdom. Baldrick from Blackadder is also quite amusing, however Tranhanam shares none of their endearing qualities. --Grim s 11:01, 2 March 2006 (GMT)
- Bad comparison: Mr Bean is funny, while Tranhanam most certainly is not. :P - KingRaptor 03:01, 25 February 2006 (GMT)
- Mr Bean is the least wise character on TV, Baldrick from the Blackadder series is pathetically stupid, and Uwe Boll is a horrible movie director whon buys licenses to create a movie, creates a flop (Because he is incapable of creating a good movie) and gets to make money from it due to a legal loophole that is being closed sometime in the next year. Furthermore, telling people to piss off isnt swearing. Its not polite, but it isnt swearing. --Grim s 20:31, 24 February 2006 (GMT)