Talk:Christianity

Sects

I updated the sects with some historical information. Every word is true. And to those below: It's a game; religion really doesn't figure into it. Nalikill 22:06, 20 May 2007 (BST)

Nalikill, it's a game, but part of the game is that characters have backstories and often behave according to principles or characteristics that have been given them by their players. Consider how much the cult of BARHAH has influenced Urban Dead before saying that religion doesn't figure into it... --Buddhagazelle 03:10, 21 May 2007 (BST)

Translation

I'll work on updating the kiZombie translation as time allows. MartyBanks, are the edits I made to your edits OK? Buddhagazelle 17:39, 9 April 2007 (BST)Buddhagazelle

Mostly, It's kinda hard to collaborate on a wiki because of the text forum nature... but we'll get it right --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 19:52, 9 April 2007 (BST)

Just a Note Here

Although we of the Christian faith still remain true to our convictions, changing times have called for slight.... amendments to our laws and vows. And besides, if Jesus was being attacked by the undead, no doubt he would've also taken shotgun and fireaxe in hand and begin pwning zeds.--Private Mark 18:31, 9 April 2007 (BST)

I concur, there is a time for peace and forgiveness and a time to fight an enemy... it's in the bible... However, in a situation like this, any organized church would most likely call for peace initially to subdue confusion... and most christians would take it into consideration until they realized 'hey! flesh eating zombies, screw that!' then they'd unload a can o whoop a**, at least thats what would happen back here in the United States... [PS: Yay, Second Amendment!! Like it or not it's kept us our lives and our freedom!] --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 19:52, 9 April 2007 (BST)

So what about those zombies who are Christians? The Church of the Resurrection takes the same view as you two-- if Jesus were being attacked by survivors with shotguns and fireaxes he might well eat their brains. There are other zombies, however, who do not harm humans. If a Christian Maltonite believes that it's OK to kill in self-defense, then should he only kill a zombie who is attacking or has attacked him? Or would it be OK for a Christian Maltonite to attack any zombie, on the presumption that most zombies are flesh-eaters? If a Christian zombie who does not harm his enemies is accidentally hacked to pieces on presumption of guilt, should a Malton Christian worry about this? Buddhagazelle 20:41, 9 April 2007 (BST)Buddhagazelle

As a rule, I try not to shoot zombies I know are friendly; however those decisions are more up to the individual. The teachings will stand as they are; how a person in Malton who is 'Christian' interprets them and follows that interpretation has no bearing on whether the religion is active or not. Christianity is a religion of peace, but not of pacifism; eventually christians are in good conscience required not to just 'turn the other cheek' but to also seek the proliferation of justice and morality. --Marty Banks (aka. Mundane) <DHPD> 20:47, 9 April 2007 (BST)

I agree that such questions have no bearing on whether the religion is active or not. Perhaps this discussion page is also the place where zombie and human Christians of Malton can exchange and compare such individual interpretations. Perhaps the outbreak has even radically shifted the differences among Christian sects-- less important than former denominational affiliation may now be the question, "should zombie Christians eat humans? should human Christians decapitate zombies?" Does anyone know of any Christian groups actively preaching/ praying/ worshiping/ proselytizing within the game itself? Buddhagazelle 23:11, 9 April 2007 (BST)Buddhagazelle

None that I know of, although as with any chaotic armageddon scenario, there seem to be a lot of death cults appearing around, from as bloody as the legendary Disciples of Zeko (now disbanded) to still others. Also, about the zombie issue, because my current homeland is constantly under siege by zombies (Yagoton, Millen Hills) me and my comrades usually don't hesitate to light the occasional zombie on fire, usually as a demonstration to the other zombies to stop eating our children, our booze, and our malls. (Which has the unfortunate effect of only attracting still more zombies). However, should certain zombies congregate in marked revival zones, or give a friendly "Mrh?", they'll be treated as one of us.... post- revive. --Private Mark 05:12, 10 April 2007 (BST)

A return to the faith of our fathers is required!!! Or rather of the time in humanity before our thoughts became clouded - the middle ages! Obviously you are all infected with that evil perversion, modern thinking! The undead are people who have been manipulated by the devil, using his most powerful tool, science, to trap their souls, corrupt their bodies, and direct them to serve twisted version of bodily need, in this case, in the perverted state of undeath! Of course, they must be slain in the hope their souls may escape! Inevitably, many possess the sufficient spiritual strength to strive to regain their states as God intended, even though they recover through the use of that same tool of Satan, science, in the form of the revivifaction syringe! Such is the power of that part of our selves that is of God! Also, the temporary nature of death/undeath in Malton serves to teach us (for those with vision) what purgatory is! Na klar, Murder is no longer true murder, but a temporary chastisement, although, nonetheless violence should not be used without perfect moral justification --Harald von Holzapfel 02:33, 13 May 2007 (BST)

Sir Harald, if what you say is true, what does that mean for the rest of us that are unlucky enough to become zombies? What about you? Does that mean that we're then controlled by "the devil"? And if that is true, then why do we, in our "unblessid" state, head to a nearby revival center to be "cleansed"?--Private Mark 22:30, 21 May 2007 (BST)

Young sir, I have already explained this for you! See the statement "Inevitably, many possess the sufficient spiritual strength...." to explain my belief in this element--Harald von Holzapfel 01:29, 22 May 2007 (BST)

Ahh, my apologies, Sir Harald. I must have... misread that.--Private Mark 21:27, 12 June 2007 (BST)

It is OK! Your misunderstanding is doubtless a result of this ambiguous language we are conversing in. Perhaps you are American, which perhaps makes such complex ideas even more difficult for you--Harald von Holzapfel 01:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

 This is all absolute balderdash and heresy. The act of using violence to defend one's self may be understandable, forgivable and even acceptable: but don't fool yourself that it is Christian. Remember that one should forgive not just 7 times but "70 times 7". Remember also that Jesus was attacked and put to death and he did not allow violence to be used to defend Him.

 Now I may well resort to violence if attacked by a zombie myself: it is, after all, a very human thing to do. But while I may not even hate myself for doing so, I will nonetheless ask His forgiveness for having done so.

 Furthermore, I will not blaspheme by pretending that in performing such an act that I am following His example. --Fr Pyrus 23:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

-Minor edit to the religious sects, corrected the Eastern Orthodoxy tab. --McChesney 3:27 12 April 2017