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==Developing Suggestions==
''This page is for presenting and discussing suggestions which '''have not yet been submitted''' and are still being worked on.''


===Further Discussion===
Discussion concerning this page takes place [[Talk:Developing Suggestions|here]].
Discussion concerning the suggestions system in general (including policies about it) takes place [[:Category_talk:Suggestions#Suggestion_Discussion|here]].


Nothing on this page will be archived.
===Ignore based on Radio Broadcast===
 
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== Please Read Before Posting ==
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 
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*''Be sure to check [[Frequently Suggested#The List|The Frequently Suggested List]] and the [[Suggestions Dos and Do Nots | Suggestions Dos and Do Nots]] before you post your idea.'' There you can read about many idea's that have been suggested already, which users should be aware of before posting what could be a '''dupe''', or a duplicate of an existing suggestion. '''These include [[Suggestions/RejectedNovember2005#SMG.2FMachine_Pistol|Machine Guns]] and [[Suggestions/24th-Apr-2007#Rooftops.2C_Sniper_Rifle.2C_and_Sniper_Ammo|Sniper Rifles]]'''. There users can also get a handle of what an appropriate suggestion looks like.
|'''Type:''' UI enhancement
*Users should be aware that this is a talk page, where other users are free to use their own point of view, and are not required to be neutral. While voting is based off of the merit of the suggestion, opinions are freely allowed here.
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*It is recommended that users spend some time familiarizing themselves with this page before posting their own suggestions.
|'''Scope:''' Interface
*<font color="red">'''With the advent of new game updates, users are requested to allow some time for the game and community to adjust to these changes ''before'' suggesting alterations.'''</font>
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|'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.
== How To Make a Suggestion ==
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====Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)====
====Format for Suggestions under development====
 
Please use this template for discussion. Copy all the code in the box below, click [edit] to the right of the header
"'''[[Developing Suggestions#Suggestions|Suggestions]]'''", paste the copied text '''above''' the other suggestions, and replace the text shown here in <span style="color: red">red</span> with the details of your suggestion.
 
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|suggest_description=</nowiki><font color="red">Full description. Check spelling and be descriptive.</font><nowiki>
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====Cycling Suggestions====
Developing suggestions that appear to have been abandoned (i.e. two days or longer without any new edits) will be given a warning for deletion. If there are no new edits it will be deleted seven days following the last edit.
 
This page is prone to breaking when there are too many templates or the page is too long, so sometimes a suggestion still under strong discussion will be moved to the [[Developing Suggestions/Overflow1|Overflow]]-page, where the discussion can continue between interested parties.
:'''The following suggestions are currently on the Overflow page:''' ''No suggestions are currently in overflow''.
 
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<span style="font-size:1.5em"><font color="red">'''Please add new suggestions to the top of the list.'''</font></span>
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===Shrink the map===
==Suggestions==
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|'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
===Scent Blood Improvement===
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{{suggestionNew
|'''Type:''' Map change
|suggest_time=[[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 01:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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|suggest_type=Skill improvement
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
|suggest_scope=Zombies
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|suggest_description=Scent Blood allows you to see the HP values and infection status of nearby survivors, right? But what of those zombies you have become acquainted with? Basically, I propose that zombies with Scent Blood should allow zombies to see the HP values of those on their contact list, regardless of whether they are human or zombie at the time. This of course only applies to those contacts located in the same block at the time. Infection status too, I suppose, but that might be kind of redundant. This doesn't apply to all zombies, just the ones on your contact list. The reason being, a random zombie is just that, a random zombie, an you would have no idea if it was suffering from fresh wounds indistinguishable from the old. But, a zombie you know, you should be able to realize when they have new wounds.
|'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.
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====Discussion (Scent Blood Improvement)====
====Discussion (Shrink the map)====
Useless.  What good would it do to see a zombie's hit points as a zombie?  You can't heal or help them.  And then as a cross over skill, this would cancel zombie anonymity and make it to easy to kill zombies.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 03:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hmm, perhaps it ruins anonymity...of course, being on someone's contact list does that anyways. [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 04:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::But it doesn't currently show you their HP values, which is not something zombies like broadcasting. --{{User:William Told/Sig}} 19:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. It gives TOO much information to survivors, who would be the only ones to use this "zombie skill".  And if you excluded it as a cross over, its useless because, as I said, what do zombies care what the HP of other zombies is?  They can't DO anything about it.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 20:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, they can. They can kill them. It lets them avoid headshot and it allows them to stand up with full HP. <small>But that doesn't mean that I think this is a good suggestion.</small>--[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 09:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not only that but in a horde situation breaking into a high population zone it would allow active zeds to not only save their fellows headshop AP but also steal kills and basically muck about with the combats dynamics way too much. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 09:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Not useful for zombies. Unless you are in a damned war and wish to exterminate the other. But then is not very likely. --{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 01:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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===Sprint===
===Action Points===
{{suggestionNew
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|suggest_time=[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 14:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
|suggest_type=Zombie Skill
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|suggest_scope=Zombie players
|'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
|suggest_description=Movies have started to introduce fast zombies. Might be nice to acknowledge this theme somewhere in the game.
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|'''Scope:''' Everyone
The sprint skill would be used for chasing survivors you see outdoors. When a human being is in an adjacent square zombies with the skill would have a sprint button. Clicking it would cost 2AP, and simultaneously move you into that survivor's square and perform a hand attack on them. It doesn't save AP, just saves you time so you're more likely to score more hits on a fleeing survivor. The survivor could still get away by going inside of course, sprint doesn't let you bypass barricades, it's just a better way of chasing down a runner.
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|'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.
What if there are survivors in multiple directions, or multiple survivors in a square? Sprint would have you attack the survivor that performed the most recent action in a location, so you'd attack whoever just ran there. If there are survivors in multiple directions then which way you go would be random - zombies aren't picky eaters. If you want to make sure you pursue the same person then you'd have to be slower, more thoughtful, and move after them the normal way.
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====Discussion (Action Points)====
Comments? Ideas?
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====Discussion (Sprint)====
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 21:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Sort of a useless 'macro'.. A survivor that's active and fleeing, a hand attack, that's nothing. Perhaps if you grab and bite them, but that might be overpowered. What about changes to accuracy in either direction? Fast zombies have been acknowledged in [[Borehamwood]] with rage, also [[Lurching Gait]]. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 14:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:A bite might not be overpowered because you still only have the 40% max chance of connecting. Geing better able to infect fleeing survivors would be useful, for the occasional times you see an active survivor outdoors. Alternatively, what if the hand attack received a 10% accuracy bonus for being a pounce? --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 15:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
::most of the live fights i have ever had have been as my zed chases down some hapless idiot as he desperately searches for an entry point and its bloody hard to catch them so something like this might mean i get a hit or 2 in before they escape so i can't see why not. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's when this would be useful. It wouldn't kill anyone (most of the time) but it would let you get a few hits in, and possibly infect them.--[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 03:29, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::What about a few random hits, perhaps mostly hands, maybe more bites? Or 'pouncing' and keeping them from moving for an AP? Tangling Grasp? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 20:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Running zombies suck. That being said, I don't see a real problem with the skill, other than I would hardly ever use it at all. [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 18:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 
I quite like this, it's annoying when you try to get an outdoor harman and they've gone coz it took so long to load. It's simple yet quite cool.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 04:29, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Lurching gait is the zombie sprint. It makes them 'as fast as the living' who are not walking slowly, but probably running like hell. So this doesn't really make sense. And this is probably a perfect time to say: program a grease monkey script. This is an over speciallized button to do actions that will cost no less but is just combining them to one button push. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 08:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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===Syringe/Extractor Rot Messages===
===Drone===
{{suggestionNew
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|suggest_time=[[User:Officer Sam Jackson|Officer Sam Jackson]] 11:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Flavor Text
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|suggest_scope=Brain Rot zombies
|'''Type:''' Survivor Item
|suggest_description=When a survivor wastes a syringe or fails to DNA extract a brain rot zombie, said zombie is given a message saying so.
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|discussion=|}}
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
====Discussion (Syringe/Extractor Rot Messages)====
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{{SNRV|4}}
|'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.
 
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 21:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
====Discussion (Drone)====
 
Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
You already get messages for broken syringes. Adding messages for multiple extracts would spam the screen of players. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 
If it already shows up...then what's the point?--{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 01:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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===Manuals===
===Backpack===
{{suggestionNew
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|suggest_time={{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 00:25, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Item.
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|suggest_scope=Survivors
|'''Type:''' New item
|suggest_description=Manuals are found in Libraries at a rate of 7% unpowered, 3% for ruined and 10% for powered, in Mall Bookstores for 8% unpowered, 2% ruined and 12% powered, and in Schools for 6% unpowered, 1% ruined and 9% powered.
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|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Once you have found a Manual, you must use it (by clicking the button) to find out what type of manual it is. There is an even chance of it being one of the following, with the following effects being enabled for as long as you carry the manual:


*Engineer's Manual - Building repair costs are reduced by 10%
Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?
*Medical Dictionary - Adds 2 HP to the effect of all FAKs
*Computer Technician's Manual - Manufacturing syringes costs 18 AP (Still cannot manufacture without the required skill)
*Martial Arts Manual - Adds 1 point of damage to Fists


Each manual has 8% encumberance. The effect begins as soon as you find out what the manual is, and is in effect for as long as the manual is in your inventory.
A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


The effects do not stack with each other, so carrying 5 Medical Dictionaries will have the same effect as carrying one.
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====Discussion (Manuals)====


The Martial Arts one doesn't quite make sense to me. I can understand using the other manuals while performing the respective actions, but asking a zombie to stand still while you check the manual for "how to punch" seems a little weird. Other than that I think this will get shot down because it's a buff to survivors with not so great a cost. - [[User:Whitehouse]] 00:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?
:That's fine, I was pushing a bit for that one. Definately the weakest of the bunch. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 06:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Yeah, what Whitehouse said. It needs some cost associated with it, other then the searching. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 02:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


The same, it needs to cost more for survivors...until that it's just a buff to make things easier for survivors. --{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 03:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not quite sure as to how to increase the cost. Perhaps all moves that require a manual (aside from repairing buildings) have double the AP cost in order to use the book. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 06:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Manufacturing cost 20AP -> 8AP is way too much. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 10:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Please give your thoughts.
:Oh, right. Sorry. I thought it was 10 AP to start. I'll edit that now. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 10:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Give them an xp cost to use and only allow one at a time, logically this could be considered as having learned the books contents and keeping it to hand in order to consult for technical details. Oh and a zed should be allowed to carry 1 manual too. Obviously zombies are not noted for their reading ability; however we have all seen films where the hero is saved from a bullet by that handy pocket bible or watch.... as such a zombies manual should have a 10% chance to negate the next shot that would "kill" it, this attack would instead destroy the book.
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:Yes I am (mostly) joking ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
====Discussion (Backpack)====
 
Perhaps if you had to read the manual for the same cost and chance of success as a book, and it granted the bonus for, say your next 5 actions...and negated the XP you would have earned for doing those actions... [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 15:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 
What if performing an action that benefits from the manual has a chance of using it up. "You feel you have learned everything useful in the manual." Or, manuals can be part of a buildings library. You install it in buildings just like a generator, and it only benefits that one building and gets destroyed when it's ruined. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 18:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Change the mechanics and activate the effect upon using the magazine.  Then give a % of the magazine taking effect that is inversely proportional to the number of actions taken since the book was read, I suggest an equation of x = 100 - 7.5n, X being the percentage and N being the number of actions taken after reading the magazine. --[[User:Diablor|Diablor]] 02:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Overpowered. Not necessarily terrible in concept, but way overpowered. And one sided. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 08:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:This isn't one sided because zombies lack the intelligence to read --[[User:Diablor|Diablor]] 19:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Its one sided because survivors would get basically a free buff to their choice of actions and zombies get nothing but hit with more damage. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 05:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::That and you can't argue zombies are stupid in a game where zombism is more evolution than revival. Note Scent Tree, zombie speech, gesturing, re-cognative ability(Memories of Life), and that the players themselves are smart(it means the characters they play will act in a manner that shows intelligence). If Kevan wanted zombies to be stupid they've be NPCs with different flavor.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, the first thing you do wrong is proposing search rates for powered and unpowered. When proposing a search rate provide only one, powered or unpowered, powering or ransacking a building increase/decrease the search rate by a set percent put into the game system already so all proposing different search rates does is make it impossible to know what the real search rates will be. The second mistake I see here is that it's a permamnent upgrade; Bad idea, we don't need more useful forms of flak jackets, much less do we need to make survivors have the ability to nullify a week or more of zombies holding a building by repairing with a fifth off. If you're going to have the buff item it needs to be randomized upon reading, so you don't know what you get, and it needs to last for only a certain amount of time after reading. Like say a day with the item disappearing after use. Also, I like the idea of giving punching a buff very much.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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===Random Events===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time=[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 17:01, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
|suggest_type=New Game Dynamic
|suggest_scope=Everyone
|suggest_description=
 
I suggest that with every action in Urban Dead, or with only certain actions, a ''random event has a chance of occuring''. The event would be determined by the previous action you took. The events '''would not give''' a major advantage or disadvantage to players, they would more often than not be pure flavor, however occasionly they would effect the game such as; "Your pistol has jammed." And then a "Clear Stoppage" button would appear fixing the pistol and costing 1AP.
 
A Random Event would on average occur once per 50AP. 
 
This would introduce a new uncertainaty factor into the game, as well as create a more immersive atmosphere. Feel free to suggest Random Events that could occur for zombies, survivors or pkers.
 
 
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Random Events)====
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 21:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 
So there is a random event that might annoy me every day? No thanks! If something like my AP was wasted on cleaning out a pistol blockage or whatever every day I would get fed up with the game pretty quickly. --[[User:Mightyoak|<span style="color: ForestGreen">mo</span>]] [[User talk:Mightyoak|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ </span>]] <sup>[[MCM|<span style="color: DeepSkyBlue ">MCM</span>]] [[MOB|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">MOB</span>]] [[Dribbling Beavers|<span style="color: SaddleBrown">DB</span>]]</sup> 17:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, what is 1AP in the grand scheme of things? --[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 18:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)]
::Well if your on only a few AP and need to FAK or fire a gun and the random events thing kicks in and you miss fire/miss FAK that 1AP means alot! --[[User:Mightyoak|<span style="color: ForestGreen">mo</span>]] [[User talk:Mightyoak|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ </span>]] <sup>[[MCM|<span style="color: DeepSkyBlue ">MCM</span>]] [[MOB|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">MOB</span>]] [[Dribbling Beavers|<span style="color: SaddleBrown">DB</span>]]</sup> 19:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
So, is this going to be beneficial in some instances? Or is it just going to be things to screw you up? [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 18:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 
I believe this to be a dupe, but it may differ from what I'm thinking of. There was April fools day one, but there was another, a suggestion.. Iscariot? Anyone? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 00:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:You could try and dupe this under that broad event/ending/reboot scenario category, but I wouldn't bother. I'd spam it to death as it's incomplete, it says many events and give a single vague example. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 13:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 
Given a much slimmer chance of happening and a pretty even bias for positive and negative outcomes for both zeds and harmanz then i would fully endorse a bit of variety and randomness for the game. a slight chance of finding 2 enough ammo to fill 2 clips rather than just a single 1 would be cool if balanced against the chance to find an empty clip. Likewise a zombie collapsing 2 levels of barricade instead of 1 or indeed accidentally re-inforcing the cade due to an awkward collapse would also add variety... However i think random events such as double damage or hitting the wrong target, while easily justified by the right flavour text, would harm the game and should not be included on any potential list. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 01:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, the key is to MAKE a list, both good and bad.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 03:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::Agreed; just thought I would add some encouragement so this might stay here long enough for the author to get some ideas ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 07:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Now, couldn't this just be given as flavor for failed actions instead of adding additional randomness? Like, instead of just "You search and find nothing" when searching, say, the gun store or police department it could say "You find a clip, but it is empty" on a semi-random basis. Although this works out for possible flavor for most failed searches, very few seem to lend themselves to positive messages. "Hey, you found a book! Good for you." [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 18:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Well there are three ways to do it:  1) something that is beneficial, 2) something that is harmful, and 3) flavor text.  This is the list of actions:
*Movement:  Block to block
*Movement:  Free Running
*Movement:  Into a building
*Movement:  OUt of a building
*Jumping from a building
*Attack:  Gun
*Attack:  Melee
*Attack:  Claw
*Attack:  Headbutt
*Attack:  Bite
*Speak
*DNA Extraction
*Use Binoculars
*Search
*Tag
*Use Item
*Revive
*Stand
*Close Doors
*Dump Body
*Access Necronet
*Barricade
*Repair Ransack
*Open Radio for Tuning
*Tune Radio
*Flail
*Use Scent Death
*Ransack
*Groan
*Manufacture Syringe
Of course there are more, if you want to get more specific.  Such as Flaing Gesture (pointing at self, pointing at others, etc.) or Attacking with melee (axe, bat, crowbar, etc.).--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 05:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
:Given the sheer size of that list I would think that opening a page similar to the clothing suggestions would be in order with the actual suggestion made using perhaps a dozen examples of potential text with the clear statement that more would and should be developed if the suggestion were ever implemented. Would it be reasonable to have a page created for that very purpose while this is under development because putting suggestions here could easily get out of hand but without them this will just get spammed as incomplete. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
::That makes sense.  I realized that would probably be needed, given the length of the list (especially if you include individual items).  I just don't know how to do it exactly.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 02:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm at work, but Ill try and sort a page out tonight. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Huzzah for the technologically competent ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 
 
<big>[[Random Events]]</big> aright for you? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hope you don't mind but i have changed your comment to make the page into plain and simple lists... If the page gets popular it would soon get huge with each formatted as a seperate suggestion.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe I was thinking of [[Suggestion:20071020 New personal game events|this]]. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 14:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
:I worked on that one and was hoping that as even Iscariot hadn't found it we might sneak it past ;) Still, given how much support it got last time, i don't see any harm in a new page being created to write up a huge list of potential flavoutr texts to bring to Kevans attention (and save him writting his own if he likes enough of them) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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==Suggestions up for voting==
===Feral Hearing===
This suggestion is up for voting [[Suggestion:20090113 Feral Hearing|here]] and its discussion is now [[Suggestion talk:20090113 Feral Hearing|here]] . --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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[[Category:Suggestions]]

Latest revision as of 17:27, 8 July 2024

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Developing Suggestions

This section is for general discussion of suggestions for the game Urban Dead.

It also includes the capacity to pitch suggestions for conversation and feedback.

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Adding a New Suggestion

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  • Substitute the text in RED CAPITALS with the details of your suggestion.
  • The process is illustrated in this image.
{{subst:DevelopingSuggestion
|time=~~~~
|name=SUGGESTION NAME
|type=TYPE HERE
|scope=SCOPE HERE
|description=DESCRIPTION HERE
}}
  • Name - Give the suggestion a short but descriptive name.
  • Type is the nature of the suggestion, such as a new class, skill change, balance change.
  • Scope is who or what the suggestion affects. Typically survivors or zombies (or both), but occasionally Malton, the game interface or something else.
  • Description should be a full explanation of your suggestion. Include information like flavor text, search odds, hit percentages, etc, as appropriate. Unless you are as yet unsure of the exact details behind the suggestion, try not to leave out anything important. Check your spelling and grammar.

Cycling Suggestions

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Please add new discussions and suggestions to the top of the list


Ignore based on Radio Broadcast

Timestamp: Khwud (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Type: UI enhancement
Scope: Interface
Description: Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.

Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)

Shrink the map

Timestamp: --UroguyTMZ 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Type: Map change
Scope: Everyone
Description: There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.

Discussion (Shrink the map)

Action Points

Timestamp: User:Wolldog1 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
Type: Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
Scope: Everyone
Description: Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.

Discussion (Action Points)

Drone

Timestamp: RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Type: Survivor Item
Scope: Survivors
Description: Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.

Discussion (Drone)

Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Backpack

Timestamp: Wild Crazy (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Type: New item
Scope: Survivors
Description: This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?

A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?

A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Please give your thoughts.

Discussion (Backpack)

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