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| ==Developing Suggestions==
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| ''This page is for presenting and discussing suggestions which '''have not yet been submitted''' and are still being worked on.''
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| == Please Read Before Posting ==
| | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC) |
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| *''Be sure to check [[Frequently Suggested#The List|The Frequently Suggested List]] and the [[Suggestions Dos and Do Nots | Suggestions Dos and Do Nots]] before you post your idea.'' There you can read about many idea's that have been suggested already, which users should be aware of before posting what could be a '''dupe''', or a duplicate of an existing suggestion. '''These include [[Suggestions/RejectedNovember2005#SMG.2FMachine_Pistol|Machine Guns]] and [[Suggestions/24th-Apr-2007#Rooftops.2C_Sniper_Rifle.2C_and_Sniper_Ammo|Sniper Rifles]]'''. There users can also get a handle of what an appropriate suggestion looks like.
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| *Users should be aware that this is a talk page, where other users are free to use their own point of view, and are not required to be neutral. While voting is based off of the merit of the suggestion, opinions are freely allowed here.
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| *It is recommended that users spend some time familiarizing themselves with this page before posting their own suggestions.
| | |'''Scope:''' Interface |
| *<font color="red">'''With the advent of new game updates, users are requested to allow some time for the game and community to adjust to these changes ''before'' suggesting alterations.'''</font>
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| | | |'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked. |
| == How To Make a Suggestion ==
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| Developing suggestions that appear to have been abandoned (i.e. two days or longer without any new edits) will be given a warning for deletion. If there are no new edits it will be deleted seven days following the last edit.
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| ===Canned Food=== | | |'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC) |
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| |suggest_time=[[User:Red Hawk One|Red Hawk One]] 07:05, 17 January 2009 (UTC) | | |'''Type:''' Map change |
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| |suggest_description=Imagine yourself as a survivor who just miraculously survived a zombie attack with a small amount of HP and an infection. You crawl off into a warehouse to die when an untouched can of food left on one of the shelves catches your eye. You quickly wolf it down and, feeling slightly rejuvenated now that you have food in you, think you may be able to make it to the local hospital to seek medical attention. Canned food would be a new method of healing HP, along with First Aid Kits and alcoholic beverages. When used, food would have a 50% chance of restoring 5 HP, and a 50% chance of restoring 1 HP (representing spoiled food). Food would have a 2% encumbrance, not cure infection, and only be useable on oneself. It could be found in warehouses (8%), schools (5%), stadiums (3%), cinemas (3%), and possibly in malls (a new grocery store/ food court?). Canned food would help survivors, particularly low-leveled ones, in situations where a hospital is out of reach (low AP, over barricaded, etc.) and health is severely needed. | | |- |
| | | |'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase. |
| Food would also be an interesting addition in the RP sense as well. Currently zombies are able to eat when active, while survivors seem to be mysteriously immune to the effects of hunger. While it is possible survivors eat while logged off, there are also just as many times where they would eat during activity as well- a survivor celebrating a triumph over a zombie with a snack comes to mind.
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| | | ====Discussion (Shrink the map)==== |
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| |suggest_time=[[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 01:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022 |
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| |suggest_scope=Zombies | | |'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate |
| |suggest_description=Scent Blood allows you to see the HP values and infection status of nearby survivors, right? But what of those zombies you have become acquainted with? Basically, I propose that zombies with Scent Blood should allow zombies to see the HP values of those on their contact list, regardless of whether they are human or zombie at the time. This of course only applies to those contacts located in the same block at the time. Infection status too, I suppose, but that might be kind of redundant. This doesn't apply to all zombies, just the ones on your contact list. The reason being, a random zombie is just that, a random zombie, an you would have no idea if it was suffering from fresh wounds indistinguishable from the old. But, a zombie you know, you should be able to realize when they have new wounds. | | |- |
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| Useless. What good would it do to see a zombie's hit points as a zombie? You can't heal or help them. And then as a cross over skill, this would cancel zombie anonymity and make it to easy to kill zombies.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 03:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
| | |'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this. |
| :Hmm, perhaps it ruins anonymity...of course, being on someone's contact list does that anyways. [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 04:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::But it doesn't currently show you their HP values, which is not something zombies like broadcasting. --{{User:William Told/Sig}} 19:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Exactly. It gives TOO much information to survivors, who would be the only ones to use this "zombie skill". And if you excluded it as a cross over, its useless because, as I said, what do zombies care what the HP of other zombies is? They can't DO anything about it.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 20:01, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Yes, they can. They can kill them. It lets them avoid headshot and it allows them to stand up with full HP. <small>But that doesn't mean that I think this is a good suggestion.</small>--[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>|[[User talk:Midianian|T]]|[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]|[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]|</sup></small> 09:40, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::::Not only that but in a horde situation breaking into a high population zone it would allow active zeds to not only save their fellows headshop AP but also steal kills and basically muck about with the combats dynamics way too much. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 09:50, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Not useful for zombies. Unless you are in a damned war and wish to exterminate the other. But then is not very likely. --{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 01:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| It's scent blood. I assume the skill scents the blood which flows harmanz veins. Zombies, however, are dead... There's nothing there to scent... Except the rot... ROT! ROT! ROT! ROT! ROT! ROT! '''ROT!!!''' Erm.... excuse me, I got a little carried away there. But you catch my meaning, no? ;) --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 07:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ===Syringe/Extractor Rot Messages=== | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC) |
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| |suggest_time=[[User:Officer Sam Jackson|Officer Sam Jackson]] 11:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | | |'''Type:''' Survivor Item |
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| |suggest_scope=Brain Rot zombies | | |'''Scope:''' Survivors |
| |suggest_description=When a survivor wastes a syringe or fails to DNA extract a brain rot zombie, said zombie is given a message saying so. | | |- |
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| | |'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use. |
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| | | Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC) |
| --{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 21:36, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| You already get messages for broken syringes. Adding messages for multiple extracts would spam the screen of players. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 11:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| |suggest_time={{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 00:25, 8 January 2009 (UTC) | | |'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC) |
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| |suggest_description=Manuals are found in Libraries at a rate of 7% unpowered, 3% for ruined and 10% for powered, in Mall Bookstores for 8% unpowered, 2% ruined and 12% powered, and in Schools for 6% unpowered, 1% ruined and 9% powered. | | |- |
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| | | |'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP). |
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| :That's fine, I was pushing a bit for that one. Definately the weakest of the bunch. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 06:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| The same, it needs to cost more for survivors...until that it's just a buff to make things easier for survivors. --{{User:Lithedarkangel/signature}} 03:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :I'm not quite sure as to how to increase the cost. Perhaps all moves that require a manual (aside from repairing buildings) have double the AP cost in order to use the book. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 06:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Manufacturing cost 20AP -> 8AP is way too much. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>|[[User talk:Midianian|T]]|[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]|[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]|</sup></small> 10:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
| | A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies. |
| :Oh, right. Sorry. I thought it was 10 AP to start. I'll edit that now. --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 10:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Give them an xp cost to use and only allow one at a time, logically this could be considered as having learned the books contents and keeping it to hand in order to consult for technical details. Oh and a zed should be allowed to carry 1 manual too. Obviously zombies are not noted for their reading ability; however we have all seen films where the hero is saved from a bullet by that handy pocket bible or watch.... as such a zombies manual should have a 10% chance to negate the next shot that would "kill" it, this attack would instead destroy the book.
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| :Yes I am (mostly) joking ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Perhaps if you had to read the manual for the same cost and chance of success as a book, and it granted the bonus for, say your next 5 actions...and negated the XP you would have earned for doing those actions... [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 15:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| What if performing an action that benefits from the manual has a chance of using it up. "You feel you have learned everything useful in the manual." Or, manuals can be part of a buildings library. You install it in buildings just like a generator, and it only benefits that one building and gets destroyed when it's ruined. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F'ing Dog]] 18:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Change the mechanics and activate the effect upon using the magazine. Then give a % of the magazine taking effect that is inversely proportional to the number of actions taken since the book was read, I suggest an equation of x = 100 - 7.5n, X being the percentage and N being the number of actions taken after reading the magazine. --[[User:Diablor|Diablor]] 02:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Overpowered. Not necessarily terrible in concept, but way overpowered. And one sided. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 08:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :This isn't one sided because zombies lack the intelligence to read --[[User:Diablor|Diablor]] 19:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Its one sided because survivors would get basically a free buff to their choice of actions and zombies get nothing but hit with more damage. - [[User:Tylerisfat|tylerisfat]] 05:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::That and you can't argue zombies are stupid in a game where zombism is more evolution than revival. Note Scent Tree, zombie speech, gesturing, re-cognative ability(Memories of Life), and that the players themselves are smart(it means the characters they play will act in a manner that shows intelligence). If Kevan wanted zombies to be stupid they've be NPCs with different flavor.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Well, the first thing you do wrong is proposing search rates for powered and unpowered. When proposing a search rate provide only one, powered or unpowered, powering or ransacking a building increase/decrease the search rate by a set percent put into the game system already so all proposing different search rates does is make it impossible to know what the real search rates will be. The second mistake I see here is that it's a permamnent upgrade; Bad idea, we don't need more useful forms of flak jackets, much less do we need to make survivors have the ability to nullify a week or more of zombies holding a building by repairing with a fifth off. If you're going to have the buff item it needs to be randomized upon reading, so you don't know what you get, and it needs to last for only a certain amount of time after reading. Like say a day with the item disappearing after use. Also, I like the idea of giving punching a buff very much.--<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 05:13, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :OK, I think that the 'benefit only for next action' method would work better. Oh, and as for a change in the repair one, how about it only takes 10% off the repair cost if the ruin requires more than 30AP to repair? --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 13:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Reading manuals can give you skills (already represented by books granting XPs), but if you need to consult the manual still, you'll be working SLOWER and getting WORSE results for most tasks. The exception is when for some reason the tasks require different info each time you do them (eg, referencing specs and diagrams for car repairs on various different models)- which isn't really the case in any of the above examples, nor would a single manual suffice for the variety of cases encountered. {{User:Swiers/Sig}} 03:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :You know what would be cool. Skills that can only be gained from XP from certain books in the game. They'd have to be somewhat strong to justify the difficulty in getting them though. Like say car repair. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User:Karek|Judge Karke]], self-proclaimed Decider of Everything and Ruler of All</span> 03:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Related to Swiers' point, how about reducing the AP for an extended action through reading? For ruins it might be considered overpowered with their sliding cost, but what about syringe manufacture? Spending 1 AP to read the Syring Manual (New Item) would reduce the cost of manufacturing a syringe as your next action to 16 AP? What's the maths on that? -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 03:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
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| I suggest that with every action in Urban Dead, or with only certain actions, a ''random event has a chance of occuring''. The event would be determined by the previous action you took. The events '''would not give''' a major advantage or disadvantage to players, they would more often than not be pure flavor, however occasionly they would effect the game such as; "Your pistol has jammed." And then a "Clear Stoppage" button would appear fixing the pistol and costing 1AP.
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| So there is a random event that might annoy me every day? No thanks! If something like my AP was wasted on cleaning out a pistol blockage or whatever every day I would get fed up with the game pretty quickly. --[[User:Mightyoak|<span style="color: ForestGreen">mo</span>]] [[User talk:Mightyoak|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ヽ(´ー`)ノ </span>]] <sup>[[MCM|<span style="color: DeepSkyBlue ">MCM</span>]] [[MOB|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">MOB</span>]] [[Dribbling Beavers|<span style="color: SaddleBrown">DB</span>]]</sup> 17:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Well, what is 1AP in the grand scheme of things? --[[User:Thekooks|Kooks]] 18:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)]
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| ::Well if your on only a few AP and need to FAK or fire a gun and the random events thing kicks in and you miss fire/miss FAK that 1AP means alot! --[[User:Mightyoak|<span style="color: ForestGreen">mo</span>]] [[User talk:Mightyoak|<span style="color: DarkGreen">ヽ(´ー`)ノ </span>]] <sup>[[MCM|<span style="color: DeepSkyBlue ">MCM</span>]] [[MOB|<span style="color: DarkMagenta">MOB</span>]] [[Dribbling Beavers|<span style="color: SaddleBrown">DB</span>]]</sup> 19:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| So, is this going to be beneficial in some instances? Or is it just going to be things to screw you up? [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 18:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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| I believe this to be a dupe, but it may differ from what I'm thinking of. There was April fools day one, but there was another, a suggestion.. Iscariot? Anyone? {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 00:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :You could try and dupe this under that broad event/ending/reboot scenario category, but I wouldn't bother. I'd spam it to death as it's incomplete, it says many events and give a single vague example. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 13:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Given a much slimmer chance of happening and a pretty even bias for positive and negative outcomes for both zeds and harmanz then i would fully endorse a bit of variety and randomness for the game. a slight chance of finding 2 enough ammo to fill 2 clips rather than just a single 1 would be cool if balanced against the chance to find an empty clip. Likewise a zombie collapsing 2 levels of barricade instead of 1 or indeed accidentally re-inforcing the cade due to an awkward collapse would also add variety... However i think random events such as double damage or hitting the wrong target, while easily justified by the right flavour text, would harm the game and should not be included on any potential list. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 01:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Well, the key is to MAKE a list, both good and bad.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 03:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Agreed; just thought I would add some encouragement so this might stay here long enough for the author to get some ideas ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 07:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Now, couldn't this just be given as flavor for failed actions instead of adding additional randomness? Like, instead of just "You search and find nothing" when searching, say, the gun store or police department it could say "You find a clip, but it is empty" on a semi-random basis. Although this works out for possible flavor for most failed searches, very few seem to lend themselves to positive messages. "Hey, you found a book! Good for you." [[User:Faranya|Faranya]] 18:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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| Well there are three ways to do it: 1) something that is beneficial, 2) something that is harmful, and 3) flavor text. This is the list of actions:
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| *Movement: Block to block
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| *Movement: Free Running
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| *Movement: Into a building
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| *Movement: OUt of a building
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| *Attack: Gun
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| *Attack: Melee
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| *Attack: Claw
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| *Attack: Headbutt
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| *Attack: Bite
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| *Speak
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| *DNA Extraction
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| *Use Binoculars
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| *Search
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| *Tag
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| *Use Item
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| *Revive
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| *Stand
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| *Close Doors
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| *Dump Body
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| *Access Necronet
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| *Barricade
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| *Repair Ransack
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| *Open Radio for Tuning
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| *Tune Radio
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| *Flail
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| *Use Scent Death
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| *Ransack
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| *Groan
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| *Manufacture Syringe
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| Of course there are more, if you want to get more specific. Such as Flaing Gesture (pointing at self, pointing at others, etc.) or Attacking with melee (axe, bat, crowbar, etc.).--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 05:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Given the sheer size of that list I would think that opening a page similar to the clothing suggestions would be in order with the actual suggestion made using perhaps a dozen examples of potential text with the clear statement that more would and should be developed if the suggestion were ever implemented. Would it be reasonable to have a page created for that very purpose while this is under development because putting suggestions here could easily get out of hand but without them this will just get spammed as incomplete. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::That makes sense. I realized that would probably be needed, given the length of the list (especially if you include individual items). I just don't know how to do it exactly.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 02:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :::I'm at work, but Ill try and sort a page out tonight. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 09:12, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Huzzah for the technologically competent ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 14:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| <big>[[Random Events]]</big> aright for you? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :Hope you don't mind but i have changed your comment to make the page into plain and simple lists... If the page gets popular it would soon get huge with each formatted as a seperate suggestion.--[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| I believe I was thinking of [[Suggestion:20071020 New personal game events|this]]. {{User:Dr Cory Bjornson/Sig}} 14:44, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| :I worked on that one and was hoping that as even Iscariot hadn't found it we might sneak it past ;) Still, given how much support it got last time, i don't see any harm in a new page being created to write up a huge list of potential flavoutr texts to bring to Kevans attention (and save him writting his own if he likes enough of them) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 17:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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| This suggestion is up for voting [[Suggestion:20090113 Feral Hearing|here]] and its discussion is now [[Suggestion talk:20090113 Feral Hearing|here]] . --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 15:32, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
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| This suggestion is up for voting [[Suggestion:20090114 Sprint|here]] and its discussion is now [[Suggestion talk:20090114 Sprint|here]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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