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==Developing Suggestions==
''This page is for presenting and discussing suggestions which '''have not yet been submitted''' and are still being worked on.''


===Further Discussion===
Discussion concerning this page takes place [[Talk:Developing Suggestions|here]].
Discussion concerning the suggestions system in general (including policies about it) takes place [[:Category_talk:Suggestions#Suggestion_Discussion|here]].
Nothing on this page will be archived.
== Please Read Before Posting ==
*''Be sure to check [[Frequently Suggested#The List|The Frequently Suggested List]] and the [[Suggestions Dos and Do Nots | Suggestions Dos and Do Nots]] before you post your idea.'' There you can read about many idea's that have been suggested already, which users should be aware of before posting what could be a '''dupe''', or a duplicate of an existing suggestion. '''These include [[Suggestions/RejectedNovember2005#SMG.2FMachine_Pistol|Machine Guns]] and [[Suggestions/24th-Apr-2007#Rooftops.2C_Sniper_Rifle.2C_and_Sniper_Ammo|Sniper Rifles]]'''. There users can also get a handle of what an appropriate suggestion looks like.
*Users should be aware that this is a talk page, where other users are free to use their own point of view, and are not required to be neutral. While voting is based off of the merit of the suggestion, opinions are freely allowed here.
*It is recommended that users spend some time familiarizing themselves with this page before posting their own suggestions.
*<font color="red">'''With the advent of new game updates, users are requested to allow some time for the game and community to adjust to these changes ''before'' suggesting alterations.'''</font>
== How To Make a Suggestion ==
====Format for Suggestions under development====
Please use this template for discussion. Copy all the code in the box below, click [edit] to the right of the header
"'''[[Developing Suggestions#Suggestions|Suggestions]]'''", paste the copied text '''above''' the other suggestions, and replace the text shown here in <span style="color: red">red</span> with the details of your suggestion.
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===</nowiki><font color="red">Suggestion</font><nowiki>===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time=~~~~
|suggest_type=</nowiki><font color="red">Skill, balance change, improvement, etc.</font><nowiki>
|suggest_scope=</nowiki><font color="red">Who or what it applies to.</font><nowiki>
|suggest_description=</nowiki><font color="red">Full description. Check spelling and be descriptive.</font><nowiki>
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (</nowiki><font color="red">Suggestion Name</font><nowiki>)====
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====Cycling Suggestions====
Developing suggestions that appear to have been abandoned (i.e. two days or longer without any new edits) will be given a warning for deletion. If there are no new edits it will be deleted seven days following the last edit.
This page is prone to breaking when there are too many templates or the page is too long, so sometimes a suggestion still under strong discussion will be moved to the [[Developing Suggestions/Overflow1|Overflow]]-page, where the discussion can continue between interested parties.
:'''The following suggestions are currently on the Overflow page:''' ''No suggestions are currently in overflow''.
If you are adding a comment to a suggestion that has the deletion warning template please remove the <nowiki>{{SNRV|X}}</nowiki> at the top of the discussion section. This will show that there is active conversation again.
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<span style="font-size:1.5em"><font color="red">'''Please add new suggestions to the top of the list.'''</font></span>
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==Suggestions==
===Nightvision===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time=[[User:Devon lobham|Devon lobham]] 04:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Skill
|suggest_scope=Zombies
|suggest_description=Basically it enables zombies to see in unpowered dark buildings. They can see the complete room description and their attack rates aren't halved.
Currently the dark building feature actually makes zombies <i>benefit from a generator</i> and puts them at <i>a loss in the absence of it</i>. This is a paradox since it's humans who should be needing this sophisticated item anyway, not walking corpses. Implementing this skill will once again encourage zombies (or at least the ones who's purchased this skill) to destroy generators.
Also, while survivors can immediately address a dark building problem by placing a fueled generator, zombies can't do such.
Roleplay-wise, it can be said that zombies have spent so much time out in darkened streets that their visual senses become fine-tuned to darkness.
This skill can be expanded to include other effects, but the one above is the only thing currently in my mind.
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Nightvision)====
Firstly, thanks for taking this to Developing Suggestions first, instead of to voting.
This could be seen as a Frequently Suggested thing ([[Frequently_Suggested#Portable_Light_Sources|Portable light sources]].) It could be seen as a dupe of [[Suggestion:20081205_In_The_Dark|this]] (although it's a long shot, admittedly.) I can't find any other dupes. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 04:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Corpse Tagging===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time=[[User:Marcusfilby|Marcusfilby]] 01:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Equipment/Skill Enhancement
|suggest_scope=Survivors (Spraying), Zombies (Being Tagged)
|suggest_description=
''What'': An alternate use for the spray can for those with the tagging skill, with all of the usual caveats (1AP, consumes a certain amount of the spray can's capacity, etc). Survivors may tag a zombie player in the same room with a short (5 character) message, word, what have you, using the same criteria as the Graffiti guidelines (no profanity, whatever else). The 'tag' would appear in two places:
* the zombie player's profile, after their clothing items, in the form of 'MarcusFilby has had 'TAG' crudely spraypainted across his chest in <random assigned color>.'
* in the room description to differentiate them from other zombie players, on a subline such as 'One of the zombies has 'TAG' sprayed across their chest.'
The act of tagging another player would earn a nominal amount of XP for the survivor, say 1XP, and activate the Scent Trail ability of the zombie player in the same manner a DNA scan does. The tag itself would last until the zombie's next death (or incapacitation, whatever you prefer to call it when they hit 0HP), at which point the graffiti is too covered in blood and gore to be legible. Alternately it could be blacked out in the same manner as other graffiti (a space character). For purposes of items that target another (guns, melee weapons, syringes, etc) other survivor/zombie players would be able to select that target by tag (though not necessarily be able to view their profile) for as long as the tag lasts.
''Why'':
* It's fun and fuels a friendly rivalry between survivor and zombie players (who wouldn't want to go get revenge after being tagged, anyway?).
* The tagging skill in and of itself seems somewhat lacking, amounting to the ability to efficiently spray letters onto a wall. The ability to run up to a shambling (albiet slow moving) zombie and tag their chest/back in a legible manner strikes me as something better fitting the idea of a practiced graffiti artist.
* Small amount of XP gained shouldn't unbalance much, but gives an incentive for survivors to use the skill. If there is a balance issue I'm not seeing, the XP could be jettisoned and this could be a purely 'cosmetic' alteration.
* Provides an alternate means of singling out targets for combat, revives, whatever in a manner that's more in-theme than adding them to your contacts list.
''Why Not...'':
* Survivors spraying other survivors: I'm assuming Romero-style zombies, so they'd be easier to tag than an alert, upright, moving human. While we all know what fun a sharpie can be on a sleeper, the game doesn't seem to differentiate 'awake' or 'asleep' to other players. Lastly, a tag that lasts until the next death is much less of a hindrance to a zombie that wants to be cleared of his body graffiti.
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Corpse Tagging)====
yawn, this is a zombie apocalypse not...something else.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 03:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Spurn skill===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time=[[User:Explodey|Explodey]] 11:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Skill mechanics
|suggest_scope=everyone
|suggest_description=
For dedicated survivors who avoid zombie skills (and dedicated zombies who avoid survivor skills) as a mark of loyalty.
In the "Buy Skills" page, in addition to the "Buy this skill" button, there would additionally be a "Spurn this skill" button.<br />
Spurning a skill:
*Costs the same as buying that skill
*Increases your character's level, just as buying the skill would.  This will be reflected in the [http://www.urbandead.com/stats.html game stats], e.g. you group's rating will increase.
*Does '''not''' grant your character the abilities associated with the skill
*Means your character can '''never''' acquire the corresponding skill
*Would be applicable to all skills except Brain Rot
*Would follow the normal rules for subskills/prerequisites, e.g. you must spurn Advanced Pistol Training before Pistol Training, Advanced Shotgun Training before Shotgun Training, and all 4 before spurning Basic Firearms Training.
Optional features (I'm not 100% sure about these)
*Can be used on skills you already have (permanently forfeiting the ability without changing your level.)  (This is why I exclude Brain Rot.)
Examples of use
*Simply advertising that you are a dedicated survivor (e.g. spurning Ransack, Feeding Drag etc but still buying Lurching Gait and Ankle Grab)
*Making the game more of a challenge (playing a survivor who can never acquire any zombie skills, including Lurching Gait and Ankle Grab)
*Declaring loyalty to a group that disapproves of certain skills, e.g. firearms skills for groups like [[Axes High]]
*Advertising a personal opinion that a particular skill is harmful, e.g. none of my [[Mrh Cow]] characters have Knife Proficiency even though they can all afford it - it's mostly useful for PKing/GKing not for helping the survivor cause.
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Spurn skill)====
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 02:23, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I kind of like it, but this really isn't useful, you can achieve pretty much the same effect with just not buying it (except for levels, but you will have more XP so it balances out) and worst of all, it locks people into the zombie/survivor fundamentalist mindsets. '''Embrace the truth! Dual nature is the only true way!''' --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 12:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:As Mid. I'm not against it, it just seems a tad... ''pointless''. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 12:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:I think you would have to have a fundamentalist mindset already to use this.  There are already dual nature characters, fundamentalist dedicated survivors etc.  This suggestion is not about encouraging a particular style of play, its more about advertising your chosen style to other players, for those who are already sure they are never going to buy the skills.  I also think levels matter, including their effect on the game stats. --[[User:Explodey|Explodey]] 12:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:#People who ''don't'' have their skills spurned would be targeted as "spies." A ''lot'' of people play dual nature, and this would hurt them in the long run, as well as people who play rotted survivors (yes they exist.)
:#Levels ''don't'' matter. A level 26 survivor (all survivor skills+scent death+ankle grab,) is equivalent in usefulness to the survivor cause as a level 41 survivor. The game stats? Yeah, you might have a point there, I'll give you that, but gameplay wise, after level 26 (for humans) and level 22 (for zombies,) levels ''don't matter''.
:#This won't change a thing to do with "fundamentalism"- a level 41 "pro survivor" will still be a pro-survivor, not mattering his skills do anything or not. It will just lead to people without this (namely death cultists and pkers, as well as dual naturists) being '''OMG SPAIS!!!!''' in many people's eyes.
::{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Re #1: Those who play rotted survivors for the challenge might actually benefit from this, as they could plausibly claim they were dedicated survivors by showing that they had spurned Ransack (and possibly some other zombie skills.)  As it stands it's difficult to convince people of this if you have Brain Rot. {{unsigned|Explodey}}
::::That's a good point. But I still don't like how this overemphasizes the idea that people with a mix of zombie and human skills are inherently "anti-survivor"/"anti-zombie." It will just lead to more accusations of people being "spais" by mindless trenchies. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 13:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::There are reasons why people would spurn skills without being complete fundamentalists: peer pressure, requirements to join a group, protecting themselves from getting killed as zombie spies. People change and some might want to try other things later, but this locks them in and they can't (not without creating a new character). The problem is the irreversibility, but this wouldn't be very interesting if this ''was'' reversible <tt>:P</tt>. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 15:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
You can still play as "survivor only" or "zombie only" with acquring skills.  It seems kind of stupid to NOT acquire SOME skills to "get back on track", so to speak.  This applies more towards survivors trying to get back to surviving, but it would make sense to acquire Lurching Gait, Flailing Gesture, Memories of Life, Death Rattle and, maybe Ankle Grab.  As for zombies, well you have, of course, the Necronet Access and Free Running.  This, again, seems geared more towards survivors since zombies have BRAIN ROT to indicate their status, as well as minimize their ability to acquire (or not) survivor skills.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 01:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)  Oops, didn't read the whole thing.  It still seems primarily Survivor focused, because of Brain Rot.  And this sounds like stuff we have seen before in the essence, your asking to spend XP to buy levels.  When your a zombie, your survivor skills don't show and vis versa.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 01:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:Uhh... yes, they do show. All your skills are always visible on the profile page. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 12:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
::My bad, I just noticed.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 01:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
**yawn** --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Cars===
{{suggestionNew
|suggest_time=[[User:Allan Smiles|Allan Smiles]] 11:50, 31 January 2009
|suggest_type=Cover
|suggest_scope=Survivors
|suggest_description= Wait! Before you put down that this suggestion is under the frequently suggested ideas, read this. I don't think this is a dupe, but tell me if it is, please.('''I am NOT suggesting that you should be able to drive cars!''')
I think that in a city, it is silly to think that there wouldn't be any cars parked in streets or carparks. So, my proposition is that cars should be implemented into the game. Their purpose could be a short-term use for cover.
Say that you are lost and running low on action points. You could collapse at any moment with fatigue. A car is perfect for that little boost of APs. If there is a car on the street where you are or the carpark, you can attempt to enter it. Once inside, you are free to rest a few hours.
My idea is that the punishment cars can take are sort of like barricades for buildings. There are a few different types of cars I thought up.
A Pick-up Truck-Pretty good damage, probably about the equivalent to a very strongly barricaded.
A Sport Utility Vehicle-Can take the best punishment of all the cars, probably the equivalent to very heavily barricaded.
A convertable-Pretty weak, the equivalent to lightly barricaded.
(The weaker the car, the more common it is to find on the street.)
If the doors to the car aren't locked, then zombies with the memory of life skill can open the car doors. If, by chance, zombie(s) get into the car, either by bashing it until it is open or merely opening the unlocked doors, they must drag the person out of the car to attack them.
When you are looking at a car, when you are ingame and a car is on the same street as you, it'll look somewhat like this:
"You are on (whatever street you are on) you notice a Sport Utility Vehicle/Convertable/Pick-up Truck.
If you are a survivor. It costs 1 AP to approach the car, 1 AP to try the handle, 1 AP to enter and 1 AP to lock the doors. If a survivor is inside the car and it is locked, you will get a message after trying the doors saying that the doors are locked. Alternatively, if a survivor is inside the car and it isn't locked, you can use 1 AP to pull the survivor out of the car.
If you are a zombie. It is pretty much the same, except if the door is locked, you have to bash it until the car is no longer able to keep the survivor safe, then it costs 3 AP to pull them out.
You can notice if you approach the car and it is damaged enough to not be able to protect survivors. If it is, possibly a person with construction can repair the car to full hitpoints for 10 AP.
I apologize for the length. This seems pretty obvious, so if it is a dupe, I again apologize for waisting your time.
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Cars)====
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 02:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
It is a dupe, sorry. But I CBAed to find it. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Hell I had the idea a few months ago.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 05:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Have seen a few variations of this so it is a dupe... It also ignores the fact that while the structure of cars vary in toughness they all have windscreens which would never count as heavy barricades. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 09:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


===Ignore based on Radio Broadcast===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' UI enhancement
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|'''Scope:''' Interface
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|'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible.  Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience.  In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.
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====Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)====
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===Shrink the map===
===Contaminated Needle===
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{{suggestionNew
|'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
|suggest_time=[[User:I AM TARA|I AM TARA]] 18:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
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|suggest_type=equipment
|'''Type:''' Map change
|suggest_scope=revivers and people getting revived
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|suggest_description=Using a revive syringe that was found instead of manufactured comes with a risk of giving the revived person an infection (assuming they weren't already infected when they died). I've been on hiatus for a while so I'm not sure if has changed, but I used to search for needles instead of making them myself so I guess this would deter this kind of action. |discussion=|}}
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
====Discussion (Contaminated Needle)====
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{{SNRV|1}}
|'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.
 
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 02:19, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
====Discussion (Shrink the map)====
 
Kind of makes sense, but this is just too harsh, especially to newbies. It could be reasoned that the syringes are hermetically sealed (including the found ones) and are taken out only when you use them. Besides, it's not like you're finding them in the streets, you find them in a lab environment. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 19:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:What he said. Creative, nice idea in theory. But I think it's too cruel in practice. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 
You might go with a CHANCE of it happening, not automatic.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 05:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 
No need to change needle mechanics, they work just fine as it is --[[User:Diablor1|Diablor1]] 22:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Free Running Edit===
===Action Points===
{{suggestionNew
{|
|suggest_time=[[User:Chuckiferd|Chuckiferd]] 04:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
|suggest_type=Rule Change
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|suggest_scope=Survivors with Freerunning
|'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
|suggest_description=I propose that survivors be *unable* to freerun out of ruined buildings, as currently they can.
|-
 
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
My reasoning behind this is it would open up a new tactic for long term seiges, pro-survivor zombies could ransack adjacent buildings to help prevent parachuting zombies.  Of course pro-zombie survivors could repair the buildings up, so it is not really that biased or unfair.  Organized use of this tactic could make a "fort" out of any building or group of buildings.  On the other hand, zombies could apply the same tactic to cut the survivors off from any help or support.
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|discussion=|}}
|'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game.  I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.
====Discussion (Free Running Edit)====
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====Discussion (Action Points)====
 
--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 00:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 
Erm, you're saying people should be ''trapped'' inside buildings? As much as I'd like to support this given the current zombie-survivor ratio, it's really too much. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 04:23, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:-I am saying that they should be "trapped" inside *ruined* buildings.  In any case survivors left after 5 ransackings would be an extreme case, and most likely the barricades would be down. But the real purpose would be to give survivors a tactic against zombies who will sneak in as humans, and give zombies an ability to cut areas off from outside support.[[User:Chuckiferd|Chuckiferd]] 05:26, 31 January 2009 (UTC)  (could someone help me fix this, I can't seem to get it)
:How could you be trapped? A zombie can't ruin a building if there are survivors inside and if the building is ruined you can't free run into it. If the building is over VSB you can't enter it and if it is at VSB or below you can just leave. I've just woken up so I might have missed something, but it seems like if you could get inside, you could get out as well. You just couldn't use ruins as entry points. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 10:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::This makes no sense. Either Free Running simply doesn't function, and if you move you find yourself outside -- in which case it's not much different than the status quo, just adds AP to the process (and this is a dupe). Or, you actually are '''trapped''' inside, in which case you've created a death trap -- not a form of "protection" ... And a form of fucking with my AP, i.e., griefing... Ergo, totally spam... --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 17:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::Also, what Midian said: buildings can't be ruined if there are survivors inside. Therefore, the only time this would even work is if a) the cades were VSB++ or lower (and why would you enter if you know you'd be trapped??) or b) someone makes a pinata and a revifying corpse who was already in there stands up. In either case, it's nonsensical suggestion that doesn't work within the game's mechanics. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 18:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I think you need to re-read the suggestion. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 18:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::::The suggestion just says you would be unable to freerun out of the building, it doesn't mention freerunning in and it doesn't mention normal movement so I would guess that this just turns freerunning off if you are inside a ruined building, just like it stops working when you are a zombie --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 09:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, all the zombies would have to do is get the barricades at VSB and ''then'' send a parachuter in. I don't think parachuters are common enough to justify ever using this as a defence. This would cut off help for survivors and thus drastically shorten sieges, and break free running lanes much more severely than the current ruin does. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 10:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
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===Drone===
 
{|
===Jump from window===
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup> 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
{{suggestionNew
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|suggest_time=[[User:Dr Rosenrosen|Dr Rosenrosen]] 19:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
|'''Type:''' Survivor Item
|suggest_type=Interface
|-
|suggest_scope=Anyone in a building
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
|suggest_description=When a Survivor jumps out of a window it shows upon all the other residents interface. Just like "A Zombie brought down the last of the barricades" shows.
|-
"Dr Rosenrosen jumped out of a window." or
|'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.
"Dr Rosenrosen jumped out of a window and plunged to a certain death." or
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"Dr Rosenrosen couldn't take it anymore and jumped out of a window."
====Discussion (Drone)====
 
Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
|discussion=|}}
====Discussion (Jump from Window)====
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 02:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 
[[Suggestions/12th-Apr-2006#Sickening_Thump|Dupe]]. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 19:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 
I still want it though. <tt>:(</tt> Everyone outside seeing you die from infection just isn't enough. {{User:Revenant/Sig}} 14:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Headphones===
===Backpack===
{{suggestionNew
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|suggest_time=[[User:Robshadow27|Robshadow27]] 9:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
|suggest_type=Item
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|suggest_scope=Survivors
|'''Type:''' New item
|suggest_description=Spamming altogether has created an element of gameplay that some survivors are not fond of. Others wish for their younger children to be able to play, but choose not to because of constant radio broadcasts of vulgar language by those who wish only to annoy, and by passerby's harassing survivors huddling together in buildings. Therefore, I would like to propose an idea whereby survivors could mute the speech of other players by wearing headphones, which could be found at any mall in the Tech Store. Of course, like any other item, it would be necessary to search for the headphones, which would have a search rate of roughly 10 %.  
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|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Alternately, instead of a search function, headphones could be worn in place of a hat, in which a survivor would either A)not hear any conversation, or B)hear only muffles, equivalent to a groan being heard. The text could read "You see <insert name here> talking, but only hear muffles behind your headphones." This would eliminate the problem of encumbrance, if that were to become an issue.
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====Discussion (Headphones)====
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--{{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 02:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?


Radio Spam is a pain in the ass but such an action to filter language for children who may play would deprive them of the many benefits talking has... In any event, any child mature enough to want to play a zombie game has probably heard more bad words in the playground than they will hear in game so I am not really sure that this is worth programming. --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 10:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.
:I see where you're coming from but the more i think about it the less useful it seems. What about offensive graffiti or profile names? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


I actually like this. I think this is the first suggestion of the year that I do like. We have a benefit (removal of messages that may offend) for a downside (ability to hear helpful speech removed). I'd prefer the item to be an findable item rather than a clothing slot, only for the reason that all clothing slots should be flavour only, with no implied use.


The problem is where to find them. For their intended purpose they'd have to be found first, meaning the cute kiddies that this is meant to help would still be subject to the 'bad' words until they do find them.
Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?


The only foolproof way to manage this is to put an age bracket on the signup screen, giving all players 15 and under this as a bonus item automatically (players aged 16 and over would start as normal). The item could then be found by all players at certain locations in the game should they choose to gain the item. A small encumbrance penalty, say 2%, would be fair. Limiting it to mall tech stores is flawed, add in buildings, clubs and junkyards and this might actually work. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 14:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


I find it disturbing that you're worried about "vulgar language" in a game that involves:
* lots of [[blood]],
* zombies killing survivors,
* survivors killing zombies,
* [[ZKer|zombies killing zombies]],
* (and most importantly) [[PKer|survivors killing survivors]] (ie. <big><span style="color: darkred">'''MURDER'''</span></big>).
To fix that, I'd suggest another item to complement the headphones: <span style="color: pink">'''Candy-Lensed Safety Goggles'''</span>. For the wearer they'd turn all weapons into {{wikipedia|NERF}}, melee attacks into hugging and kissing, infection into cooties, blood into lemonade, zombies into hares, and survivors into rabbits. Damage would be called "nuggets of joy" (as in: {{udspan|a hare hugged you for 3 nuggets of joy}}) and dying would be called "fainting from happiness". And the interface would be pink. And the game would be called Urban Lagomorphs. --[[User:Midianian|Midianian]]<small><sup>&#124;[[User talk:Midianian|T]]&#124;[[Developing Suggestions|DS]]&#124;[[:Category:Recently Closed Suggestions|C:RCS]]&#124;</sup></small> 15:57, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::What would all the skills be renamed to, and repurposed to do? I'm genuinely interested now. I l(-ed)ol.--<font face="Pristina"><span style="color: DarkMagenta">Suicidal Angel -</span> [[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkGreen">Help</span>]] [[Project_Mentor|<span style="color: Black">needed?</span>]]</font> 00:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'd play that game. --[[User:A Big F'ing Dog|A Big F&#39;ing Dog]] 16:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah... maybe 8 year olds shouldn't be playing UD. However, if you do have your children playing, and you're concerned about the content -- follow what all the advice on good parenting says, and ''play with your kids'', don't leave them unsupervised -- and then try to nerf the game for the adult majority because you CBAed to supervise your kids.
::As for spam... sheeesh, who's making you read it? Why doesn't it bother me? Or, how about this: leave the safety of green wanker suburbs 00 which is where all the spam happens, anyway -- and go help where it's needed. Less spam. More impact.
::That out of the way... The mechanic of this does more to discourage survivor organisation and encourage the undirected, individualistic trenchcoater playing style than anything I have seen in ages. --[[User:WanYao|WanYao]] 20:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


Dupe of [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PR_Equipment_New#Ear_Plugs Ear Plugs] specifically.  Also [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/PR_UI:_Main_Screen#Ignore_Certain_Types_Of_Message Ignore Certain Types of Messages].  As for the age thing, he just, perhaps, needs a disclaimer on the main page.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 04:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Please give your thoughts.


I actually don't have a problem at all with the radio broadcasts, and receiving all types of noises and communications. I enjoy the spamming for what it is. I really only felt like submitting this idea to actually get an idea out here, to learn the process, and because there are others in my group who are concerned for their children. I believe that it is really up to the parents to deal with the implications of playing a game such as this, as it does have a good deal of violence. I thank you all for your comments, and I will also think harder on these ideas for the next time. Also, thank you Pesayel for pointing out the dupe. That was my fault for not searching thoroughly enough.--[[User:Robshadow27|Robshadow27]] 06:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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:It's not problem, that's the point of the page.  Finding dupes isn't that easy and there is nothing wrong with representing an idea.--[[User:Pesatyel|Pesatyel]] 07:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
====Discussion (Backpack)====
 
If the radio broadcasts bother you, then don't carry a radio.  As far as "vulgar passersby" (which I've neither heard of nor encountered)... add them to your contact list and then change their dropdown to 'ignore contact'.  That's what it's there for. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 17:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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==Suggestions up for voting==
*[[Suggestion:20090205 Gas Siphoner]] is up for voting. Discussion moved to [[Suggestion_Talk:20090205_Gas_Siphoner|here]] --{{User:Blake Firedancer/sig}} 12:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
*[[Suggestion:20090202 Show How Long People Have Been In Their Group]] is up for voting. Discussion moved to [[Suggestion talk:20090202 Show How Long People Have Been In Their Group|here]] {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 00:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
*[[Suggestion:20090201 Scent Enemy]] is up for voting. Discussion moved to [[Suggestion talk:20090201 Scent Enemy|here]] {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 00:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
*[[Suggestion:20090201 Radio transmitters in more places]] is up for voting. Discussion moved to [[Suggestion talk:20090201 Radio transmitters in more places|here]] {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 00:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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Ignore based on Radio Broadcast

Timestamp: Khwud (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Type: UI enhancement
Scope: Interface
Description: Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.

Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)

Shrink the map

Timestamp: --UroguyTMZ 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Type: Map change
Scope: Everyone
Description: There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.

Discussion (Shrink the map)

Action Points

Timestamp: User:Wolldog1 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
Type: Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
Scope: Everyone
Description: Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.

Discussion (Action Points)

Drone

Timestamp: RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Type: Survivor Item
Scope: Survivors
Description: Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.

Discussion (Drone)

Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Backpack

Timestamp: Wild Crazy (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Type: New item
Scope: Survivors
Description: This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?

A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?

A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Please give your thoughts.

Discussion (Backpack)

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