Talk:Scurvy Scroungers

Spying on the Old Arkham Reclamation Effort in 2021

Zarak Goldleaf, leader of the Scurvy Scroungers, was caught spying on the Old Arkham Reclamation Effort Discord. He used a false backstory, pretending to be a local survivor called TheAstronomer, and watched our operations to get a tactical advantage. We discovered this when he asked for aid in one of the public channels of the Ridleybank Resistance Front's Discord. The RRF would later kick him from the server, but not before we were able to screenshot proof of the same account between both servers.

Following this we moved everyone besides "TheAstronomer" to a secret channel, providing bogus information to the main channel and watching to see if he would act on it. Zarak's forces responded within hours, preempting our false targets. When we pretended to bemoan this in chat, "TheAstronomer" would within minutes provide an innocuous explanation for the Scroungers getting the drop on us.

When I confronted him in a private message over Discord, he admitted to the spying and claimed it was "part of the game." Moreover, he made several statements that would seem to corroborate the zerging charges his group has fielded for years (see: the Scurvy Scroungers/Talk Archive below). Among these suspicious statements are bargaining to only skirmish with his "core" group of players if we consent to his territorial terms, asserting that he would go so far as to say his group has "more than 8" people playing despite it having 22 active members, and stating that he would leave TheAstronomer at a location for us to communicate with if we wish (the bizarre implication being, if he isn't zerging, that he would not play within ten spaces of this character as he awaited us to contact him).

Included in this imgur album are screen shots of his spying account, our conversation, and screenshots of a group of new characters (newarkhamhorde1, newarkhamhorde2, newarkhamhorde3, newarkhamhorde4, and newarkhamhorde5) created in the midst of these events.

https://imgur.com/a/o4Q5vNj

While it is notoriously difficult to prove zerging, I felt these merely circumstantial details might be important as part of an ongoing record of suspicious behavior. --AspiR (talk) 04:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Lolololololol. Hilarious analysis. A ruse that cost about 20 or 30 bodies each day. Well done. Of course I admit to spying, there's no game rule about it (sharing information or bypassing in game communication restrictions on the otherhand...) and if your so dense you walk around broadcasting links to your discord that anyone can pop in and scroll back through your chats on than you deserve to be spied on. Sorry we aren't a bunch of putz's communicating on public channels like you guys.

That I don't screenshot all suspicious stuff from survivors in the area, your group included, and post it is more indicative of how little I care about what you guys are up to rather than indicative of survivors being the 'pure' bs you guys always claim. So many alts with similar names always running around the area, camping outside NT's and whacking zeds inside, etc, anyone who can think can piece it together. If not you specifically then the chum that has shown up to feed off of you is spamming level 1 survivors into the area and has been since October. Not complaining, just pointing out no ones hands are clean and this isn't a court where you need to prove anything beyond reasonable doubt. I have never said no one in our group ever zergs, but I've been playing this account for a long time. If I was multiplying suspiciously I would be gone a long time ago.

I loved your justification as wanting to make this area 'fun' or whatever bs alluded to. This area is fun. I love wandering the streets of my pile of rubble. Its a big game ruin hunting preserve and we are the caretakers. We love those guys when they come down and give them a good challenge to get some good repairs. We talked it over and are redirecting to act as game wardens for this preserve. Any of them want to come down and safari and we will give them a good game. The rest of you should pack your bags and beat it.

God I love how much forum spying winds you guys up. Me and the rest of the scroungers literally just got done with a google meet laugh fest at your guys expense. Thanks for the hilarious finish to the weekend! --Zarak Goldleaf (talk) 05:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Old Talk

Older discussions have been sent to the Scurvy Scroungers/Talk Archive.

Status Check

Hey guys, are you still active at all in New Arkham? The Herd is beginning operations there and are doing a role call on possible allies. --Boneshred The Hungry 00:05, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Judging by Aichon marking the group as inactive three years ago (as seen above) I don't think they are. It's worth a check though. --Zam Hangrah 11:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

We actually are active in the zone. We had been inactive for a couple of years, but returned over a year ago, and have actually been maintaining more of a presence on the forums. We would be delighted to have some allies in the zone for a change and look forward to a cooperative effort. You can continue to contact me here, or on my user page, or pop into the Mitchener building and visit me there. --Zarak Goldleaf 06:24, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Fantastic, glad to hear the Scurvies are still scrounging ^^ I was very excited to see you went through the effort of seeking out and posting on our forums. I've been in talks with Lebende Tote up in Grigg Heights, and they same amiable to the idea of joining in the carnage down here. We should consider arranging a meeting between representatives and tacticians from each group, forming a war counsel so to speak. Working together, there is a good chance that we can do much more than merely drag Nah Argham screaming into the cold grasp of the damned. --Boneshred The Hungry 19:11, 2 April 2013 (BST)

I like this idea. Moreover, I like the idea of the 3 groups forming up a war council and trying to start up a horde of enough size to begin touring. We are in construction of forums for our group (we communicate elsewise atm, but our numbers have started to grow) and will let you know when we have them up. In the mean time, lets coordinate some raids for brainz! --Zarak Goldleaf 05:59, 3 April 2013 (BST)

Hey Zarak, my apologies for my sudden absence, life decided to be a crazy whore and had me rather occupied. I'm in discussions with the defacto senior members of the Herd. I'll give you more details once they've been nailed down. --Boneshred The Hungry 18:22, 15 April 2013 (BST)

Moving your archive

Hi Scurvy Scroungers! I wanted to let you know that the Scurvy Scroungers Talk Archive should be placed on a subpage of Scurvy Scroungers, not a mainspace page unto itself. I can move it to an appropriate location for you; I would suggest Scurvy Scroungers/Talk Archive. If you would prefer a different subpage name, just let me know and I'll carry it out. Thanks! Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 17:54, 4 April 2013 (BST)

My bad Bob, didn't even think to check on that. Yeah moving it to the suggested location would be fine by us. Thanks! --Zarak Goldleaf 05:04, 5 April 2013 (BST)

Great Suburb Group Massacre 2013

I'm a volunteer helping to do some janitorial work on the suburb pages of the wiki. As part of that, we're double-checking in which suburbs each group is active. Currently, you're listed in one or more suburbs, in addition to using a radio frequency. If you would like to continue being listed, then please respond within the next month with the radio frequency you are using and a list of every suburb where you are currently active. If we don't hear back from you or we can't get the information we need, we'll be removing you from the lists, but you're welcome to re-add yourself later. If you have any questions, feel free to visit our informational page. Thanks. -- ^{FoD PK Praise Rando!} 13:23, 25 October 2013 (BST)

Because your group hasn't responded within a month, your suburb and radio listings have been removed. Feel free to relist your group. Bob Moncrief ^EBD•W! 16:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Question

Seems that your group is a little far from home. Why is that? stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 06:25, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure really. Our numbers have almost doubled in the last 6 weeks or so (new scroungers joined and old scroungers came back) and I'm not sure where everyone is at the moment. I only vaguely recognize your name and group but seem to have you flagged as not a dick in my contacts list. Are you wanting a skirmish or a ruin hunt, perhaps a 'mall raid' game? Come to the Mitchener, kiss my ring, and we can hash out an accord. --Zarak Goldleaf (talk) 13:26, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Isn't your group based in New Arkham? Why would they be continually ruining buildings three to four suburbs away? Also I'm intrigued as to how you have me in your contacts list. As far as I know I've never encountered you in game. stelar ^{Talk|MCM|EBD|Scourge} 22:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

The gang is all over the place doing whatever it is that they do. I don't keep them on a leash, I just coordinate strategy for them, monitor the wiki, and let them know what the patrols look like in our territory. Probably they think its hilarious to roam that far or are chasing some dickholes, or harassing Smithwcks, I can't say for certain as I mostly just hang out here in my rubble but if they are bothering you its probably been collateral damage and someone else has their ire. I have you in my 'not an ass' color code because that's what the gang tells me and I see you post on forums here and there. --Zarak Goldleaf (talk) 01:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)