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==Suggestions==
 
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===Ignore based on Radio Broadcast===
===Flashlight===
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|'''Timestamp:''' {{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:25, 2 July 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Attachment
|'''Type:''' UI enhancement
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|'''Scope:''' Firearms
|'''Scope:''' Interface
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|'''Description:''' No, this is not [[Suggestion:20071008 Flashlights (revised)|this]], [[Suggestions/25th-Aug-2006#Flashlight_Version_2.0|this]], or [[Suggestions/29th-Jan-2006#Flashlight_.26_Batteries|this]], and is definitely not a 100% dupe of [[Suggestion:20080607 Flashlights|this]].
|'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience.  In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.
 
No.  What I propose may be slightly similar to the last link, but it's different.
 
These Flashlights are like the flashlight attachments that you can equip to firearms.  They will increase the accuracy of firearms in [[Dark]] buildings by 10%, and only 10%.  And they can only increase the accuracy of firearms.  In dark buildings.  Only.
 
The downside?  The Flashlight will increase the encumbrance of the firearm by 4%.  Also, when you use the equipped firearm, anyone outside the building will notice the light from these Flashlights.
 
The Flashlights base encumbrance is 2%.  They can be found in Armories , Police Departments, and Mall Gun Stores, all at 2% base search percentage.
 
When there are Flashlights is in your inventory, there will be a dropdown list to equip it to one of the firearms in your inventory.  Equipped firearms will be marked (marked with an E), and they cannot be unequipped.  This will cost 1AP to equip.  Attempting to equip the Flashlight when all your firearms are already equipped with them will waste you an AP.
 
The equipped Flashlight will only last for <s>30</s> 3 shots for Pistols and <s>6</s> 1 shots for Shotguns, afterward, it becomes useless.  However, they will not be unequipped from the firearm, meaning that the firearm still takes up an extra 4% of your Encumbrance.  The only way to get rid of a pistol with a dead Flashlight (marked with an *) is to drop the firearm completely.
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====Discussion (Flashlight)====
====Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)====
Doomguy didn't have this capability on Mars in the future. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:27, 2 July 2010 (BST)
:Yea, yea...Spam the suggestion...But if you do the math, the chance for a fully leveled survivor to hit with a firearm is still less than 50%.  And also, I'm just suggesting this because the amount of suggestions these days have been staggering... --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:30, 2 July 2010 (BST)
::I genuinely don't like the idea of anything that counteracts dark buildings. Sowwy. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:31, 2 July 2010 (BST)
:::Even with most of the Cons of this suggestion?  And the limitness of what weapons they can only be used on? --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:33, 2 July 2010 (BST)
::::Yes. While this will be of little use to the average fire-and-forget trenchie, well-equipped and intelligent survivors will have a massive boon at clearing dark buildings of zombies, PKers, and non-hostile survivors at an encumbrance cost much lower than a fuel can and a generator. You'd need something like 7 augmented weapons just to equal the weight of a single-use generator/fuel pair.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 02:55, 2 July 2010 (BST)
:::::Then allow me to kill the item even more.  Cut the number of shots usable to 3 for pistols, 1 for shotguns. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:58, 2 July 2010 (BST)
::::::See, now it's gone from being OP to UP. Look, here's the classic suggestion's conundrum:
{{User:Lelouch/Secret Research Submarine/Launch Bay/Bay Four|23:53, 2 July 2010 (BST)}}
'''Kill''' - Dark buildings should differ in that ''everything'' takes twice as long, not that only survivors can fully exploit them. Also, {{KISS}}. --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 06:54, 2 July 2010 (BST)
 
Interesting, for certain. Not sure how I feel about it, but very much interesting. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 08:20, 2 July 2010 (BST)
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===Shrink the map===
===Zombie Class Change===
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''Suggestion has been moved to voting.  Discussion has been moved to [[Suggestion talk:20100629 Zombie Class Change]].'' --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 22:46, 29 June 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Map change
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|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.
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====Discussion (Shrink the map)====
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===Extra encumbrance===
===Action Points===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:No-genius|No-genius]] 13:12, 26 June 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
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|'''Type:''' Item, change
|'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
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|'''Scope:''' Survivor, possibly zombies with [[Suggestion:20100629_Zombie_Class_Change|this]]
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' <s>An extra 10% to the inventory capacity. Would require body building. Could possibly be a military skill, because of all the pack training they do.</s>
|'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction,  I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game.  I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.
 
OK. How about certain items take up 1.5% (instead of 2%) inventory, depending on class. If you're scientist, its syringes and first aid kits (or possibly syringes for lab assistants, and first aid kits for doctors, if having both gives too much), and you're military, its pistol clips and shotgun shells. But (to balance it out) the opposite items take up 2.5%. Civilians are unaffected. (Please tell me this isn't a dupe too)
 
Obviously this is a lot fairer to zombies if they can choose their class too.
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====Discussion (Extra encumbrance)====
====Discussion (Action Points)====
[[Suggestion:20080313 Bodybuilders are Stronger, Duh?]] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:44, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:Dupe as above.  Unless you were to change it up so the 2 suggestions have significant differences. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 15:31, 26 June 2010 (BST)
 
It's worth pointing out that encumbrance isn't actually a measure of realism, but a mechanical limitation. Items having an encumbrance value that seems out of scale is simply the game's way of placing a limit on the amount of stuff any one person can mule around with them, not an attempt to realistically portray weight. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:11, 1 July 2010 (BST)
: But if you're on 99% encumbrance, you can still pick up a generator. So it doesn't really do that. Is there no call for gradually making it harder to perform any action other than walking outside/talking/entering a building? And does it really break realism so much to assume that a lab assistant will be able to carry syringes, or a seargent to carry pistol clips, in a way that a civilian can't? (I read about how making new players have to make an important decision about character classes before they know the game is bad, but they could just pick civilian). [[User:No-genius|No-genius]] 13:46, 1 July 2010 (BST)
::Yes, the suggestion would be more realistic, but what I'm saying is that the chief concern with encumbrance isn't realism, it's stopping mules carrying thirty generators and fuel cans, plus extra. The infinte final 1% is an issue that should really be sorted, but I'm not keen on any suggestion that'll make survivor play any simpler. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:53, 1 July 2010 (BST)
 
Er...Well, it's no longer a Dupe.  But this can be Killed/Spammed on the basis that you're linking suggestions, which you can't do. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:27, 2 July 2010 (BST)
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===Unique Weapons===
===Drone===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Mindlessidiots|Mindlessidiots]] 18:12, 3 July 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' New Weapons
|'''Type:''' Survivor Item
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|'''Scope:''' Human/Zombie
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' If you ever played Fallout 3 you have encountered at least one of it's unique weapons, which is like a normal weapons except stronger. What I am suggesting is that there should be unique weapons of some of the Melee weapons, such as the crow bar, baseball bat, length of pipe, and all sporting weapons so zombies can also use them. The unique weapons will not be incredibility powerful, just have a small stat boost. Let me give you an example
|'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.
 
''Lord Alner's fencing foil'' 
 
Lord Alner was a dedicated fencer, so he had a special foil created for him which was thought to be one of the best foil's ever created.
 
Damage: 3 points
 
Base accuracy: 15%
 
Starting Skill: 20%
 
Hand to Hand combat: 30%
 
Location: Alner Manor
 
As you can see, it only has a small boost compared to a normal foil. The object of this is not for it to be some weapons that slaughters everything it touches, but more of a personal trophy to have. Since the item is unique of course, only one can be found. Now, it would be kind of unfair if the person was able to keep it forever so when the person dies the weapon would spawn back at it's unique place.
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====Discussion (Unique Weapons)====
====Discussion (Drone)====
New player xXxZombieSmasher0001xXx signs up, finds Bob the Builder's Toolbox, plays for two days and idles out forever. Unique weapon irrecoverably lost. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 18:17, 3 July 2010 (BST)
Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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===Zombie Bone Armor===
===Backpack===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:William Burns|William Burns]] 16:26, 24 June 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Skill, new
|'''Type:''' New item
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|'''Scope:''' Zombie
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' A covering or armor of bone for high level zombie players. As a zombie rotted (i.e. leveled up) bones would begin to be exposed. These bones then could be sharpened if on the hands to add 1 (one) additional damage to successfull hand attacks while increasing by 1 (one) all damage received through firearms. The reasoning is that bone is brittle and bone not shielded by rotting flesh would be more likely to break than shielded bone.
|'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).
+1 Hand attack damage done/+1 firearm damage received
 
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====Discussion (Zombie Bone Armor)====
Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?
I fixed your code. As far as comments go, I don't have any right now. -[[User:Austin hunt|<span style="color:green">Austin</span>]] [[User Talk:Austin hunt|<span style="color:blue">Hunt</span>]] 17:26, 24 June 2010 (BST)
 
A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.
 


Hang about, my fully levelled zombie now takes more than 50 damage from a shotgun?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 21:11, 24 June 2010 (BST)
Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?


Yonnua Koponen, I am not sure what you mean with your comment, but I will try to clarify something at least. Say an attack from a shotgun hits your zombie character, and does 10 (ten) damage. With the Zombie Bone Armor skill the same successful shotgun attack would do 11 (eleven) damage to your zombie character. {{unsigned|William Burns}}
A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.
:Yeah, umm... how about no. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 22:09, 24 June 2010 (BST)


Wait. So I get a fully-levelled brain-rotted death cultists to parachute an NT. Stand up, deal 3+43=46 damage per claw swipe, clear the NT in like five or six swipes, pinata, stand outside and get headshot in two hits, +5AP penalty far outweighed by the AP saved by having a x15 damage multiplier on my attacks. I VOTE KEEP. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:11, 24 June 2010 (BST)
:I think you're misinterpreting the suggestion. You take this skill. Now your claw attack would do 4 damage each, but you would also take 5 damage from pistols and 9 damage from shotguns. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 22:30, 24 June 2010 (BST)
::Then why specify that you rot more when you level up? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:38, 24 June 2010 (BST)
::Eh? I assume you meant this with flesh rot in mind?--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 22:34, 24 June 2010 (BST)


Wait wait wait, lemme see if I know what you're saying. You're trying to tell us that flesh and skin will protect against bullets, but without that flesh and skin, they'll be easily damaged more by bullets?  Whatever happened to the Flak Jacket covering those bones? =O --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:17, 25 June 2010 (BST)
Please give your thoughts.


The Flak Jacket decays with the zombie. And if you are a high level zombie, that means you have spent more time dead, exposed to the elements, which would cause advanced states of decomposition not seen in "newer" zombies. So, overall, do you think I can take this to the real suggestions page? [[User:William Burns|William Burns]] 23:20, 25 June 2010 (BST)
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:No. This idea sucks, and your reasoning sucks. Flack Jackets don't decay just because you're a certain level, and this idea is a massively unneeded zombie buff whose negative effects are completely negated by an existing skill.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 23:46, 25 June 2010 (BST)
====Discussion (Backpack)====
::Also ceramics don't decompose. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:48, 25 June 2010 (BST)
::Also, some of us likes to think of Revive Syringes being able to somehow regenerate body parts.  Somehow. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 01:19, 26 June 2010 (BST)
:::Magic, obviously. Probably a combination of both black and white. So gold, if my N.E.R.D. is configured properly. --{{User:Maverick Farrant/sig}} 02:45, 26 June 2010 (BST)
Okay, maybe the flak jackets don't rot completely, but the fibers do loosen with use. And high level zombies have probably died many times. A ceramic plate filled with bullet impact marks and cracks is not as effective as the ceramic plates in a flak jacket not covered with battle evidence. Also, so what if the Revivification Syringes magically heal missing or eaten flesh and blood? If you haven't been revived in a while you have less flesh, logically, than a zombie who was revived and died again recently. Furthermore, why is it "a massively unneeded zombie buff whose negative effects are negated by an existing skill"? Its one fuckin' more point of damage! Zombies can get right back up again after being killed! [[User:William Burns|William Burns]] 02:33, 27 June 2010 (BST)
:It's "one fuckin'" shitty idea that was obviously thrown out in a tantrum of stubborn idiocy and idea-regurgitation the likes of which this page hasn't seen for about a week. If you're really at the point where you're screaming swear words about how all right your idea's flaws are, you are '''far''' past being able to make a passable suggestion. Good ideas don't have flaws, or at least have flaws that are reduced to the point that they are outweighed by your benefits; your idea is just a pile of shit you're trying to polish into a slightly shinier pile of shit via a litany of bitching.{{User:Lelouch/sig}} 04:31, 27 June 2010 (BST)
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Ignore based on Radio Broadcast

Timestamp: Khwud (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Type: UI enhancement
Scope: Interface
Description: Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.

Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)


Shrink the map

Timestamp: --UroguyTMZ 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Type: Map change
Scope: Everyone
Description: There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.

Discussion (Shrink the map)


Action Points

Timestamp: User:Wolldog1 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
Type: Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
Scope: Everyone
Description: Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.

Discussion (Action Points)


Drone

Timestamp: RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Type: Survivor Item
Scope: Survivors
Description: Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.

Discussion (Drone)

Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)


Backpack

Timestamp: Wild Crazy (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Type: New item
Scope: Survivors
Description: This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?

A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?

A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Please give your thoughts.

Discussion (Backpack)