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= Archive =


* [[UDWiki talk:Administration/Bureaucrat Promotions/Archive|Jun/2006 - Nov/2008 Archive]]
* [[UDWiki talk:Administration/Bureaucrat Promotions/Archive|Archive]]
 
=FAQ=
 
== What is a Bureaucrat? ==
 
A '''bureaucrat''' (AKA ''crat'') is a user with the ability to promote and demote users for sysop and bureaucrat positions. The Urban Dead Wiki mantains two active bureaucrats at all times, with elections occurring every three months to promote a sysop into bureaucrat, filling the position of the one who has least recently had an election.
 
A bureaucrat whose position is being filled can run for reelection, with no limits on how many times a bureaucrat can remain in the position.
 
== Can I become a Bureaucrat? ==
 
Only '''System Operators''' (aka ''sysop'') can become bureaucrats. Users who are part of the Urban Dead Wiki community for a set period of time and which have made a certain number of edits can be promoted to sysop, as long as they get the rest of the community support. For more information on how to become a sysop, read the [[A/PM|sysop promotions page]].
 
System Operators can become bureaucrat if elected by the community. A sysop needs to be active in the previous months of the election in order to run for crat. If he becomes active AFTER the election begun, he will only be able to run for 'crat in the next election.
 
== Can I vote? ==
 
Any user can vote. You can only vote in one candidate per election, and any user who vote more than once will have all their votes stricken.
 
== Can I vote for myself? ==
 
If you are a sysop and eligible for voting, you can vote for yourself.
 
= Talk =
 
To create a new header, simply click the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki_talk:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions&action=edit&section=new + button] in the page actions menu.
 
 
 
== Voting rights change ==
''moved [[UDWiki talk:Administration/Policy Discussion/Voting Eligibility (2)|here]]''


==Next election ==
==Next election ==
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:'Crats come under default election if they go 12 months without one, so that saves the possibility of 'Crat for life, DCC. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 20:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:'Crats come under default election if they go 12 months without one, so that saves the possibility of 'Crat for life, DCC. {{User:Linkthewindow/Sig}} 20:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


== August 2011 round ==


A note to everyone that the next round will due in a week. --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">█ </span>]]</span>''' 23:28, 7 August 2011 (BST)


== archive this shit ==


In an unrlrelated note... can someone with sysop powers archive some of the headers from this talk page in their corresping archives ? Like 'boxy's so clever' header should go to the dec 2009 archive... i moved some, but others can has prutectiun --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 00:04, 8 August 2011 (BST)
: thanks mis. Now, if anyone could move the 'next election' section into the general archive, i'd be grateful --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 03:15, 8 August 2011 (BST)
:: Shouldn't jerrels question have gone to April 2010. I know that's marginally unhelpful but I'm not on a copypasta friendly device at the moment. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>03:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)</sub>
::: Oops... i blame them booze --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 03:22, 8 August 2011 (BST)
::::Aw, I wanted that kept here as a permanent guideline. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:49, 8 August 2011 (BST)
::::: write the guideline and slap it in the FAQ... simple as that --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 04:38, 8 August 2011 (BST)
::::::Seems it was more of a misunderstanding of the guidelines to begin with. Also, [[UDWiki:Administration/Policy_Discussion/Reevaluation_for_Bureaucrats|it's now 8 months]] rather than 12 to prevent crat for life. ~[[Image:Vsig.png|link=User:Vapor]] <sub>05:51, 8 August 2011 (UTC)</sub>
::::::: Whatever... i just want this piece of talk from 3 years ago to be archived properly --<small>[[User:Hagnat|hagnat]]</small> 15:05, 8 August 2011 (BST)


== August Election ==
== Archive questions ==
 
So, it's nearly the 15th Beurocrat election! And on the 15th, how fitting. So, what's the community opinion in the pre-election?
Link can't run because he's already a crat, Daranz and Swiers don't look like they'll have enough edits. That leaves everyone else as a potential candidate. Whether or not they run is a different matter. From the last election, looks like Conndraka will be pulling out.
 
That leaves:
 
Suicidalangel
 
Boxy
 
Cyberbob240
 
DanceDanceRevolution
 
Krazy monkey
 
Nubis
 
Rosslessness
 
The General
 
The Rooster
 
Any thoughts?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 20:41, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
:...You want the community, ''this'' community, to attempt to have a debate on who is best suited for the job?... I honestly cannot wait to see how this ends.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 20:56, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
My vote goes to whoever has the guts to actually demote people once the sysops re-evaluation starts.--[[Image:Umbrella_Corp.gif|20px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: white; background-color: maroon">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella_Corp.gif|20px]]</span> 21:31, 9 August 2009 (BST)
:I would have no trouble pulling the trigger.--{{User:Nubis/sig}} 22:09, 9 August 2009 (BST)
:Which would be everyone. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 23:30, 9 August 2009 (BST)
Vote for <s>Pedro</s> <----DDR -[[User:Poodle of doom|Poodle of doom]] 22:16, 9 August 2009 (BST)
::Sometimes I feel that the best idea would be a dance off....--{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:27, 9 August 2009 (BST)
:::Only if it's retro dancing types. Swing dancing ftw.--{{User:SirArgo/Signature}} 22:56, 9 August 2009 (BST)
 
===Boxy===
Actually Buzz's vote should be considered valid as there is no proof the account is a sockpuppet.--{{User:J3D/ciggy}} 07:49, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:True. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 09:38, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::Yes, and I thought you couldn't struck puppetry? Or was that only meat puppetry? Exceptions are made in case's where its dead obvious or something?--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 10:28, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::The account was pretty clearly purpose-made as either a meatpuppet or a sockpuppet; its first edit was to vote on Boxy's bid, and the IP traces back to the town Sexy, Jed, Nick and DDR all hail from. You connect the dots. We don't strike meatpuppets because you can't prove that they were actually contacted offsite, but here the proof is conclusive that ''something'' went down. We just don't know which variety of puppetry it was. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:41, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::Thanks for the explanation Bob. Quite a coincidence, all the same town. Do they all know each other ;)?--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 10:47, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::Yes. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 10:48, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::But we're not all from the same town...--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 11:17, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::and tbh the bbk doesnt really have vested intrests as a whole these days. Judging from the voting, and only because I dont really give 2 shits about what 2 cool do on a tactical scheme, it looks as if they dont agree on this issue either. Theres quite a few people in  this city, and at one point, there was at least 40 UD players from our school alone. Could be anyone, but it wasnt anyone I know, and it wasnt from 2 Cool as Jed is in Sydney, and Nick might as well have just changed his own vote to Boxy rather than making an alt to cancel himself out. Actually changing his vote would have made a 2 vote swing so yeah. I can't answer for DDR though, I have no idea if he knows who it is or not, I'd have to wait for him to comment--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 11:51, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::Also Jed is from Sydney, forgot to add it. Also what happens with elections now that its a draw?--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 11:56, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::::No idea. Have another round of voting with just the two of them that only goes for a few days maybe? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:03, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::::I know the BBK archives aren't an Encyclopaedia of Wiki Info, but thats what we did a while back when our  group hit 40 odd and we had an election. Myself and someone else tied and we had another round of voting, worked out ok.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:13, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::Oh you know what I mean Nick. Don't be a nitpick. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:03, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::I used the 2 Cool/BBK thing because it's an easy way to talk about everyone in that area without having to go through and painstakingly name everyone. I'm not saying that you guys all got together and planned it out because as you say - you're obviously not all in agreement. But to try and say that it was some random other guy is kind of silly because of the fact that the vote was the very first edit the account made. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:03, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::::Well, if you read closely, I dont think it is a random guy. I just know its not me, and its not 2 Cool. As I said I cant answer for anyone else because I dont know the details of anyone else, and I also dont want to sit here and point fingers. Its up to you to read between those lines.--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:10, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::::Well my best guess outside of those people would be...DDR? DUN DUN DUN. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:13, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::As I am saying, I dont know if it is him or not, and I dont want to point fingers. But basically I dont check the wiki often enough and didnt even get my own vote in on time, I didnt check it until I got asked if Buzz Killington was me on Facebook. It isnt Jed or Nick for obvious reasons, and in the process of elimination, if it IS a sockpuppet, it would have to be DDR. But I dont know if it is, and if I did know I wouldn't jump on here shouting names because thats just low, wiki and irl are two different places for me. But I dont know if it is Charlie, I hope it isnt, because I cant ever imagine it being him. But then again, sometimes people use those images created to their advantage. I hope it isnt, tbh--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:20, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::::::I honestly hope I'm wrong about literally the entire thing with the account being dodgy... don't think I am though. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 12:24, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::::The account is obviously dodgy, but it wasn't me. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 12:34, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::::::::And although I have no obligation to save any member of the BBK clique, it's worth noting that the BBK have a score of genuine users (IRL friends) at their disposal, it's beyond logic that they would use an account like this Buzz Killington user to meat/sockpuppet a vote. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 12:39, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:::::::::::::::Hilariously true.--{{User:Nallan/sig}} 12:43, 29 August 2009 (BST)
::::::::::::::::Ha HA. (Phil Ken Sebben laugh){{User:J3D/ciggy}} 06:13, 30 August 2009 (BST)
 
 
And also, in a tie, the current Crat decides who wins. It's in the main page's intro. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|BlueViolet}}-- 12:44, 29 August 2009 (BST)
:So Link has to do something himself? My hands are rubbing in anticipation. You can paint that mental picture however you like,--{{User:Sexylegsread/sig}} 12:48, 29 August 2009 (BST)
 
 
 
==September/December 2009==
The next election will be around about the 25th of December assuming of course that there are no demotions either by inactivity or by choice with [[User:Boxy|the Box's]] space up for grabs. -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 14:49, 26 September 2009 (BST)
:Christmas election! Fuck yeah! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 14:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::Not fuck yeah. A lot of users might not have the chance to vote due to the holidays.--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 19:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I'll be about. Such power. Mwah ha ha! --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Boxy ''could'' request an earlier election, starting on the 1st say, as an act of good faith to ensure that the full community gets a chance to vote. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Or alteratively extend the voting process, so it started earlier. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Extending the voting process is contrary to the policy, calling an election voluntarily is not. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 19:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::You people and your "rules" --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 19:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Good faith? The hell? What about "avoiding the christmas period by putting onesself up for election early even though he has had a short term already" makes good faith? UDWiki's activity goes up ''more'' during the late December-early January period, we just rock ''that'' much. Keep as is. Obviously. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 21:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got some facts to show that? Might make an interesting article. I'm always being told that zombie activity goes down over the summer. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::They've been in my userspace for about 6 months dude. As for the zombie activity idea, which summer? English or Aussie? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|red|black}}-- 21:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Northern Hemisphere. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I'm in the Northern Hemisphere!--[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 22:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::(Pats on head) Well done. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:::What is the usual holiday schedule? Off just before Christmas, and for a couple of weeks? <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:36 28 November 2009 (BST)</small>
::::Depends? School holidays or? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 12:41, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Any/all, I guess <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:42 28 November 2009 (BST)</small>
::::::I work up until Christmas Eve. Aus School holidays finish about <1 week before Christmas. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 12:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Likewise, finishing work on 21st. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:47, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I think my day off is christmas eve, and I have to go in on christmas. :/ --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 19:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 
A whole month is dumb. But I think having it on, say, the 20th instead of the 25th may suffice? If we feel so inclined? --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sigcode|DimGray|Crimson}}-- 00:18, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:I don't care either way anymore. I gotta work christmas anyway and I am in grumpy mode. >:| --[[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> SA</span>]] 02:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:20th sounds good to me <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 10:48 3 December 2009 (BST)</small>
::20th seems fair, but I'd suggest the 21st. It's a monday so it feels right, plus it's more of an evenly-spaced period either side of Christmas day so anyone busy on one side of it has time the other side. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::20th is a bit pointless really, given that it's the same Monday to Friday week as Christmas, anyone who interwebs from school/uni/college is likely to be away and therefore can't vote. If you're going to move it, then Friday the 18th would include such backwards people without home iwebs (though it'd obviously have to kick off from start of school/uni/college time in the Antipodes to allow everyone a chance. -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 15:16, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 
==Boxy's so clever==
I just realised, having a name that comes first alphabetically is an amazing tactical ploy. Aaron A. Aardvark is a sure fire winner for the next crat elections. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:That'd be hilarious. Oh. Except in the last 2 years, 10 or so elections it's happened basically twice, both of which were just Boxy anyway. :/ --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::Not that I'm implying that most wikizens cant be bothered scrolling. Although it would explain why people aren't voting for SA. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh cmon, we aren't ALL lazy. SA isn't getting a vote because he's a dud op who doesn't bother taking the job seriously anymore. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:30, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Demote the cunt <sup>this response stolen from SA</sup> --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:32, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Don't say that infront of Read. He will have your head <sup>he's actually the one that 'invented' it</sup> --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:34, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, but i stole it from SA who stole it from him. Always pay it forward. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 11:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::The system WORKS!!! --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:No wonder [[User:Xoid|Xoid]] left us [[Image:Face-sad.png|20px]] <small>-- [[User:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">boxy</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Boxy|<span style="color: Red">talk</span>]] • [[The Rules|teh rulz]]</sup> 12:02 18 December 2009 (BST)</small>
 
Hm, yeas, I'm a dud sysops who doesn't take da job srsly anymore.--[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 13:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:<3 SA {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 
I do have to say, having a screen name close to the start of the alphabet really is rather nice. It's easy to find your name on lists, to say the least. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:28, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe I should change my name. :( --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 19:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::Yours is easy to find too. It's just at the other end. :) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:58, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::: :D --{{User:Zombie slay3r/Signature}} 20:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 
So does this mean that I am the best? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 21:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:I think [[User_talk:Aardvark_Randolf|this guy]] has us beat. Though, coincidentally, his first contribution was made today after this discussion started... {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
::Probably that 'tard's alt, he knows who I am talking about. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 22:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
:::It's a unique user insofar as much as it does not be matching any ips here. :/ --[[¯\(°_o)/¯|<span style="color: DarkMagenta"> ¯\(°_o)/</span>]][[User_talk:Suicidalangel|<span style="color: DarkTurquoise">¯</span>]] 23:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 
== Baby Come Back ==
 
[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/UDWiki:Administration/Demotions/Archive#Cyberbob You] can blame it all on me. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 03:33, 2 April 2010 (BST)
 
== April Election ==
 


=== Aichon ===
Hey RC watchers/interested individuals, is it ok if I move the {{tl|CratPromoArchive}} template so it's at the top of each archived promotion, for consistency? Or would people prefer the bottom? Thanks! {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 06:19, 5 April 2013 (BST)
:Never mind, turns out Breadcrumbs makes the bottom template redundant. Will delete. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 06:28, 5 April 2013 (BST)
::I never even noticed that there was a template on the bottom of any. I'd love to see that archive box redesigned though, since it's ugly and huge for how little content it has. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:34, 5 April 2013 (BST)


#Someone who I actually trust to be impartial, unbiased and otherwise fair in his rulings, all traits the last bureaucrat definitely didn't have. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 08:26, 1 April 2010 (BST)
:::WOW, that is fucking ugly as hell {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:55, 5 April 2013 (BST)
#:It's almost like your entire existence on this wiki is geared towards making offhand and wrong comments about me. If it were anyone else I'd consider taking a hint but since it's you I'm actually flattered. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:47, 1 April 2010 (BST)
::::Any chance we can address [[Template talk:CratPromoArchive|hagnat's]] suggestion and ignore Thad and Mis? Any option is better than what we are using atm ;_; {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 12:58, 5 April 2013 (BST)
#::Actually, nevermind, after looking at your contributions I've realised that non-confronting me with pathetic little quips is only part of your current schedule, mixed with spamming WN at newbies and then never following up on the help they need. Shit, I stand mistaken. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:53, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#:::Aren't these comments supposed to be under my vote? :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:01, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#::::Lol! Nice ;D Unfortunately though there is a vast difference between WN'ing newbies 5 times a day, and then making 50 constructive edits, to WNing users 5 times a day and then making 5 edits a week whingeing about a)DDR or b)nazism. Oh and you actually follow up on the newbie screwups to help wiki upkeep, Iscariot. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:07, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#:::::Ha! It's after midday, so it counts, and I have the diff so you can't take it back :P You said I made constructive edits, I'm never going to let you live that down :P -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:12, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#::::::I don't mind admitting if it you do, you know. If things don't stop I can see us having a similar strange immediate love affair I previously shared with Cyberbob. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:14, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#:::::::Remember, Iscariot is DDR approved for use in both the home and at work and is safe for your children to use! <small>Do not operate heavy machinery while under the influence of Iscariot</small> -- {{User:Iscariot/Signature}} 12:20, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#::::::::For external use only. If Iscariot comes in contact with eyes wash immediately and seek medical advice. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 13:56, 1 April 2010 (BST)
#::He might stop making those comments if you stop responding to them. Just a thought. {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:31, 14 April 2010 (BST)
#:::tried didn't work soz --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:37, 14 April 2010 (BST)
#::::Alright, how about not responding simply because almost every time you do you end up looking as stupid as he does? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:39, 14 April 2010 (BST)
#:Lol. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 03:27, 2 April 2010 (BST)


===Half an hour left===
:::I've added another suggestion over there at [[Template talk:CratPromoArchive]]. We should probably move this convo over there. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 15:05, 5 April 2013 (BST)
I wonder who will win.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 12:57, 15 April 2010 (BST)


=== jerrel's question ===
==DDR & AHLG==
I would like to know why I can't be Promo'd to ANYTHING!--{{User:Jerrel Yokotory/signature}}. 01:29, 12 April 2010 (BST)
With my vote moved from DDR to stelar it would seem that there is a tie. You left too soon Aichon, unless stelar is to decide the outcome. -- [[file:SomethingSomething.gif|link=http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Jack's_Inflamed_Sense_Of_Rejection]] 05:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
:Possibly due to your vast inactivity. A sysop is expected to be highly active so as to constantly maintain the wiki's admin tasks, and a bureaucrat is expected to be even more active so as to have a good understanding of the activity levels and reliability of the members of the community. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:33, 12 April 2010 (BST)
:Meh, not actually an issue, since I never gave me own vote and would have done so had I noticed the tie, given that I was online when voting concluded. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:45, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
::Indeed. Bureaucrat positions are only available to current sysops, and sysops have to meet certain criteria in order to be promoted to that position. When last you applied for promotion to sysop, you failed to meet the minimum activity requirements in order to be eligible for promotion. While those requirements can be waived in the case of widespread community support, I'm afraid that you didn't appear to have that widespread support at the time. Check the guidelines at the top of these pages and they should explain what's necessary for promotion, in terms of raw objective numbers and other, more subjective, measures. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:49, 12 April 2010 (BST)
::Im just fucking with you. Safe travels, thanks for everything you did here! [[File:bai.gif]] - [[file:SomethingSomething.gif|link=http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/User:Jack's_Inflamed_Sense_Of_Rejection]] 05:59, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
:::I already explain on his talk. --{{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 01:51, 12 April 2010 (BST)
==Wow. I was eligible==
::::Yes, well...I liked how I said it better. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:56, 12 April 2010 (BST)
Strange times indeed [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  16:27, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::[http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Promotions&diff=1674736&oldid=1674726 Or as I outlined in your last bid.] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:26, 14 April 2010 (BST)
:Yeah it's best you don't get me started on complaining about that policy again. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 22:20, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
:Have you considered the possibility that you're simply a fucking mong? {{User:Cyberbob240/Sig}} 15:30, 14 April 2010 (BST)


=July Election=
== Timestamps on votes ==


I for one would like to see a Bureaucrat who is politically neutral and keeps out of drama. Best person possible to be selecting new sysops.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:47, 11 July 2010 (BST)
There is nothing in the "Rules on voting" regarding a valid voting signature requiring a timestamp. It doesn't seem to affect the results, this time, but it's rather uncouth to have hidden rules that will disenfranchise you. --[[User:Starlingt|Starlingt]] ([[User talk:Starlingt|talk]]) 00:22, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
:Seriously? No offense to him, but he's barely on here, and being familiar with the drama is practically essential, especially on promotions. --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 11:54, 11 July 2010 (BST)
:My striking was based on my interpretation of "singing" in ''"Users vote for a candidate by signing under the preferred candidate's name"'' as performing the standard signing action, which is equivalent to four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) and consists of the user's signature plus timestamp.
::I will stand by my decision with the same right to vote every user has.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 11:57, 11 July 2010 (BST)
:That said, I've looked back through the last several years of crat elections and found exactly one vote ([http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki%3AAdministration%2FBureaucrat_Promotions&diff=2354338&oldid=2354308 one of these two of Revenant's]) that had the name portion of the signature but not the timestamp, and it wasn't struck. (I also found [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=UDWiki:Administration/Bureaucrat_Promotions&diff=next&oldid=1991024 a vote that was struck for invalid signature], although it included a timestamp; so signature issues in general are potentially strikeable.) Would love other sop input but am happy to reinstate the votes (one for Gnome and one for DDR, not changing the outcome) if that's the consensus. {{User:Bob Moncrief/Sig}} 04:53, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
:::I bet a cookie you're going to change your vote once more people have voted, and the battle is going between 2 candidates. Red Hawk chances are next to none, and I know you're not one to let your vote go to waste.--[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 12:06, 11 July 2010 (BST)
:You're right. I made an assumption based on other parts of the wiki. Suggestions, Historical votes and Policy votes all have specific voting rules so I assumed this was the same. But the bureaucrat elections don't have them so I've placed the votes back. My apologies. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 14:22, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
::::Well I'll give you your cookie now, because I've done that every crat election since I came here.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 12:07, 11 July 2010 (BST)
:Certainly timestamps are important. It's clear who's voted for who, so I'd just add the timestamps in (otherwise we may lose that info if we get another history wipe). --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 15:38, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
:::::You did it a week ago during the mayoral elections silly, how can I forget you want to be kingmaker and bribed? --[[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]][[User:MisterGame|<span style= "color: maroon; background-color: white">'''''Thadeous Oakley''''']][[Image:Umbrella-White.png|14px]]</span> 12:10, 11 July 2010 (BST)
::👍 {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 23:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
::::::Well, since this election actually means something, I'll vote for the next best candidate, if Red fails.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 12:16, 11 July 2010 (BST)

Latest revision as of 23:20, 22 December 2019

Next election

Should be for boxy's slot since he is a mid season replacement for AHLG who was elected BEFORE Cheese. Don't let him slip in as Crat for Life. --Globetrotters Icon.png #99 DCC 13:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I believe the way the policy is worded is that it's the oldest 'crat's bid that gets put up. No reason why Cheese should get an extra long bid because Gnome stepped down.--Karekmaps?! 14:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
I think its argued that its the last crat not to have their position voted on, and the election itself was a vote. --RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 14:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
So, if a crat whose position will be up for grabs in the next election is demoted two and half weeks before the end of his term, the crat who gets elected will only keep his position for half a week ? for someone who tries to appear smart, this was a really dumb idea, DCC. The guidelines for bureaucrat election are not hard to understand, and they are pretty clear about whose position will be voted on next time --People's Commissar Hagnat talk mod 15:21, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
'Crats come under default election if they go 12 months without one, so that saves the possibility of 'Crat for life, DCC. Linkthewindow  Talk  20:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

August 2011 round

A note to everyone that the next round will due in a week. -- Spiderzed 23:28, 7 August 2011 (BST)

archive this shit

In an unrlrelated note... can someone with sysop powers archive some of the headers from this talk page in their corresping archives ? Like 'boxy's so clever' header should go to the dec 2009 archive... i moved some, but others can has prutectiun --hagnat 00:04, 8 August 2011 (BST)

thanks mis. Now, if anyone could move the 'next election' section into the general archive, i'd be grateful --hagnat 03:15, 8 August 2011 (BST)
Shouldn't jerrels question have gone to April 2010. I know that's marginally unhelpful but I'm not on a copypasta friendly device at the moment. ~Vsig.png 03:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Oops... i blame them booze --hagnat 03:22, 8 August 2011 (BST)
Aw, I wanted that kept here as a permanent guideline. We're coming to get you, Barbara 03:49, 8 August 2011 (BST)
write the guideline and slap it in the FAQ... simple as that --hagnat 04:38, 8 August 2011 (BST)
Seems it was more of a misunderstanding of the guidelines to begin with. Also, it's now 8 months rather than 12 to prevent crat for life. ~Vsig.png 05:51, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Whatever... i just want this piece of talk from 3 years ago to be archived properly --hagnat 15:05, 8 August 2011 (BST)

Archive questions

Hey RC watchers/interested individuals, is it ok if I move the {{CratPromoArchive}} template so it's at the top of each archived promotion, for consistency? Or would people prefer the bottom? Thanks! Bob Moncrief EBDW! 06:19, 5 April 2013 (BST)

Never mind, turns out Breadcrumbs makes the bottom template redundant. Will delete. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 06:28, 5 April 2013 (BST)
I never even noticed that there was a template on the bottom of any. I'd love to see that archive box redesigned though, since it's ugly and huge for how little content it has. Aichon 07:34, 5 April 2013 (BST)
WOW, that is fucking ugly as hell A ZOMBIE ANT 12:55, 5 April 2013 (BST)
Any chance we can address hagnat's suggestion and ignore Thad and Mis? Any option is better than what we are using atm ;_; A ZOMBIE ANT 12:58, 5 April 2013 (BST)
I've added another suggestion over there at Template talk:CratPromoArchive. We should probably move this convo over there. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 15:05, 5 April 2013 (BST)

DDR & AHLG

With my vote moved from DDR to stelar it would seem that there is a tie. You left too soon Aichon, unless stelar is to decide the outcome. -- SomethingSomething.gif 05:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Meh, not actually an issue, since I never gave me own vote and would have done so had I noticed the tie, given that I was online when voting concluded. Aichon 05:45, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Im just fucking with you. Safe travels, thanks for everything you did here! Bai.gif - SomethingSomething.gif 05:59, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Wow. I was eligible

Strange times indeed RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 16:27, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Yeah it's best you don't get me started on complaining about that policy again. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 22:20, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Timestamps on votes

There is nothing in the "Rules on voting" regarding a valid voting signature requiring a timestamp. It doesn't seem to affect the results, this time, but it's rather uncouth to have hidden rules that will disenfranchise you. --Starlingt (talk) 00:22, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

My striking was based on my interpretation of "singing" in "Users vote for a candidate by signing under the preferred candidate's name" as performing the standard signing action, which is equivalent to four tildes (~~~~) and consists of the user's signature plus timestamp.
That said, I've looked back through the last several years of crat elections and found exactly one vote (one of these two of Revenant's) that had the name portion of the signature but not the timestamp, and it wasn't struck. (I also found a vote that was struck for invalid signature, although it included a timestamp; so signature issues in general are potentially strikeable.) Would love other sop input but am happy to reinstate the votes (one for Gnome and one for DDR, not changing the outcome) if that's the consensus. Bob Moncrief EBDW! 04:53, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
You're right. I made an assumption based on other parts of the wiki. Suggestions, Historical votes and Policy votes all have specific voting rules so I assumed this was the same. But the bureaucrat elections don't have them so I've placed the votes back. My apologies. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 14:22, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Certainly timestamps are important. It's clear who's voted for who, so I'd just add the timestamps in (otherwise we may lose that info if we get another history wipe). --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 15:38, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
👍 DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 23:20, 22 December 2019 (UTC)