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==Suggestions==
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===Ignore based on Radio Broadcast===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' UI enhancement
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|'''Scope:''' Interface
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|'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible.  Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience.  In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.
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====Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)====
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===Shrink the map===
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|'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Map change
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|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.
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====Discussion (Shrink the map)====
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===Rescue pull===
===Action Points===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Shadok|Shadok]] 11:32, 21 July 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
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|'''Type:''' Balance
|'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
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|'''Scope:''' Newbie Survivors
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' I know it isn't recommended to suggest something which alters another player's position, but I've thought about this one.
|'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.
 
We all know the zombie skill feeding drag. Drags out an injured survivor for the "Bahbahz".
But what about the "Bahbah" Survivors?
I've played both sides, and I notice that until you join a metagame and a survivor group, you're alone.
As a newbie zombie, I just wondered around until I found a large horde, then grew at a MASSIVE rate.  
 
Now, the major problem I faced as a newbie survivor was EHBitching.
 
To counter the problem of newbie survivors sitting outside helplessly, I propose a skill. "Rescue pull" (Draft name), which allows a survivor who has it to "rescue" another survivor who is sitting outside of a building.
 
Rescue pull: 100xp cost (Civilian skill)
This skill allows you to work with another survivor to enter a building which is normally too inaccessible to either of you alone.
(Both characters involved enter the building). Cost: 2AP for the puller. The puller cannot pull another player into a ruin.
 
Now, this skill won't kill those who Deathcult using EHBitching. It allows a higher level survivor to pull another into a building EVEN IF THE BUILDING IS HB.  
The exception is this: If a survivor is below level 5 or has less than 500 exp stored (to stop abuse) they can be pulled into a EHB building. (Be reasonable those of you who deathcult a lot. Would you like a game where your first day consisted of being beaten by the enemy?)
 
This skill would increase the survival of newbies who only JUST joined the game and encourage teamwork between survivors, a team which normally works solo and distrusts each other because of the PKer risk.
 
Those of you who PK, this also is a fun way to mess with someone.
You rescue them from the horde. Then you shoot them dead. :P
 
Okay, time for the scary part, listening to the older players tearing down my suggestion XD
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====Discussion (Rescue pull)====
====Discussion (Action Points)====
 
First of all, have a cookie for using [[DS]]. Secondly. How does the experienced survivor get inside the HB building anyway? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 12:14, 21 July 2010 (BST)
: *Eats cookie* Obviously I didn't make it clear, but the experienced survivor and the newbie are both outside the building. The experienced survivor could obviously use freerunning to access the building via another route, but the newbie would be left outside to die otherwise. This version is actually my second version. The first one worked with one inside the building (via Freerun) and they could drag newbies from outside, but I realised that would create X-ray vision, so I scrapped it before even putting it on the wiki. [[User:Shadok|Shadok]] 13:32, 21 July 2010 (BST)
I like the general idea (and have often enough seen the troubles of stranded low-level survivors). However, it could be easily abused by zergers to counter overcading: Create a new survivor alt, move it to the building, and use it as a bridge for the main alt. To get around that, Rescue Pull should trigger zerg flags between the involved alts if they use the same IP, and automatically fail if it detects them. --{{User:Spiderzed/Sandbox/Sig}} 13:55, 21 July 2010 (BST)
:Didn't think of that, but I like that idea. It certainly solves the problem. [[User:Shadok|Shadok]] 14:03, 21 July 2010 (BST)
This is actually cheaper than using free running. Even assuming the building next door is vs or lower it costs 3AP to get in (1 move + 1 enter + 1 freerun) this seems like a shortcut  rather than an altruistic rescue skill. Mind you introduced with a "pyramid scheme" skill to allow zombie acrobatics to circumvent 'cades and i might say yes ;) --[[User:Honestmistake|Honestmistake]] 16:37, 21 July 2010 (BST)
:These are survivors. They already go around barricades. Zombies have always had to break them down. Introducing a way for zeds to go past them would completely change the rules of how zombies work. As a zed player, I know I would love to get past those pesky 'cades, but as a survivor it would ruin the game. Also, you seem to have miscalculated. With this skill, you need to spend 1 to walk, 2 to enter, as opposed to the 1 needed to freerun to that same building. (Yes, it's the same amount if you haven't already entered, but if it's a HB building, you would not be in it anyway). [[User:Shadok|Shadok]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (BST)
::His math was sound. He was suggesting that you want to get into a building you are currently standing in front of. Presently, if the building were HB, you would need to travel a minimum of one block away (1AP), enter that building if it is VSB or lower (2AP total), and then travel back to the building where you wanted to be originally (3AP total). Contrast that with your method, where someone outside merely does a Rescue Pull and gets in with just 1AP. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:23, 22 July 2010 (BST)
 
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, if a survivor who has accrued less than 500XP or 5 levels is outside a building with any level of barricades, and another one with Rescue Pull comes up to them, the one with Rescue Pull can pull them both into the building? Honestly, I see this being primarily used for self-interest and abuse, rather than as intended, despite the fact that you actually did manage to head off the most grievous forms of abuse that might have occurred.
 
Off the top of my head, one big issue is that this allows people to access "islands" without having to break down the barricades first. There's also the fact that if you can pair up with someone, this allows you both to take straight paths between buildings, rather than having to twist and wind through a Free Running lane system that might be broken anyway, and then get two people into your destination building for the price of one. Also, if the so-called "vet" doesn't have Free Running, this allows them access to buildings they shouldn't otherwise have access to yet, though that's not a major issue. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:35, 21 July 2010 (BST)
:People are selfish. I expect that the older player would be selfish, but they also help the newbie in the process
 
:I could change it so that Freerunning is a prerequisite, although I personally don't think that science classes need to have any more misery than they already have in terms of expensive skills. and pairing isn't as easy as it sounds, I've tried working with my friends to survive and we frequently ended up having to split up. [[User:Shadok|Shadok]] 22:59, 21 July 2010 (BST)
::There's still the issue of accessing islands that needs to be discussed. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:23, 22 July 2010 (BST)
 
I just really don't like the idea of a way to lessen the already-small number of street treats out there, especially since they're vital to raising a bahbah with any kind of pace. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:07, 21 July 2010 (BST)
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===Feeling People Up===
===Drone===
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|'''Timestamp:''' --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 02:21, 18 July 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Balance
|'''Type:''' Survivor Item
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|'''Scope:''' Dark Buildings
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' Currently, dark buildings halve everything to do with attacking but one: Tangling Grasp. It still gives the 10% boost it normally would, giving claws a power of 1.05 Damage Per AP (DPAP) and teeth a power of 1 DPAP. Logically, when blinded, it would be vastly easier to hurt something if you could feel it's location. In fact, it would be almost as easy as if you could see them. Thus, I propose that Tangling Grasp be made to be twice as effective in the dark. In no case could this make it a zombie more powerful in the dark than light. What is would do is (when you're holding someone) raise the power of claws to 1.35 DPAP and teeth to 1.4 DPAP. This means that a fully leveled zombie in a dark building would want to claw for grasp, bite for power, drag for boost. It makes it a little more interesting, realistic, and makes dark buildings more of neutral ground; Survivors currently have the advantage of controlling the lights.
|'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.
 
Check for dupe, run the numbers, consider the implications, and point out the glaringly obvious flaw that I've overlooked. Go!
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====Discussion (Feeling People Up)====
====Discussion (Drone)====
No dupes, but I feel it's kinda unfair that only one zombie skill maintains superiority in the dark, giving zombies, if not small, slight advantage. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 02:25, 18 July 2010 (BST)
Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
:Are you suggesting that this idea is too small a change, or possibly even ''too'' simple? --{{User:TripleU/Sig}} 04:24, 18 July 2010 (BST)
::No, I just think survivors should have something similar. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 05:21, 18 July 2010 (BST)
:::[[Useful Items#Portable Generator|Oh?]] {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 05:26, 18 July 2010 (BST)
::::Something similar to do stuff in dark buildings without a genny. --{{User:Axe Hack/Sig}} 05:29, 18 July 2010 (BST)
I like this. Currently zombies have to work counter-intuitively in dark buildings, GKing ''last'' instead of first as should be done. This would help address this. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 04:03, 18 July 2010 (BST)
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===Pre-Death Rattle 'Barhah!'===
===Backpack===
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|'''Timestamp:''' {{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 22:11, 16 July 2010 (BST)
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Zombie speech flavour addition
|'''Type:''' New item
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|'''Scope:''' Zombies without the 'Death Rattle' skill only
|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' Very simple, all I wish to suggest is that the phrase 'Barhah!' be added to the speech options for zombies without the 'Death Rattle' skill. Why? This word is ''the'' universally recognized phrase of zombie reverence and unity, and babah zambahz should be able to shout 'Barhah!' into the cold, dead night, just like their more linguistically accomplished brethren.
|'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).
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====Discussion (Pre-Death Rattle 'Barhah!')====
 
You know, until you said this, I didn't realise that barhah wasn't on the default speech list - I'd always assumed that that was the origin of the word, much like mrh. I'd definately be for this. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 22:15, 16 July 2010 (BST)
Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?
 
A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.
 


Not really feeling this idea, I always thought that you bought Death Rattle just to say BARHAH! and it is BARHAH! not barhah! a lower case barhah! does not mean the same thing. BARHAH! is like a right of passage. I think that those of use who wish to say it should say it right, or not say it at all. I don't want to see the next generation of zombies saying "barhah!" because thats how it is spelled in the game, no  it is spelled BARHAH! and that is what should be taught.  {{User:Bonghit420/sig2}}22:32, 16 July 2010 (BST)
Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?
:I know what you mean, I shout "BARHAH!" with RRF every night, full caps and an exclamation mark to truly emphasize the power of the word. And it feels good, it feels ''right''. I did, however, make a conscious decision to suggest as 'Barhah!' as to stay stylistically true to the six existing expressions. Thanks for the comment, if anyone else has this reservation, please let me know. --{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 22:55, 16 July 2010 (BST)


I'd vote keep. BARHAH! --{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 22:40, 16 July 2010 (BST)
A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Supporting.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature‎}} 22:43, 16 July 2010 (BST)


I like this, babahz have as much right to yell "BARHAH!" as any other zambah.--[[User:KyleStyle|KyleStyle]] 22:48, 16 July 2010 (BST)
Please give your thoughts.
:I'm still going to edit conflict you all the time. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *cough*--{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 22:52, 16 July 2010 (BST)


[[Suggestion:20070725 Allow New Zombies to Share in BARHAH!|''Cough'']] --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 22:53, 16 July 2010 (BST)
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:''"I didn't see nothing, I didn't see how he died..."''--{{User:RenegadeRomero/Sig}} 22:58, 16 July 2010 (BST)
====Discussion (Backpack)====
::Had a feeling there was one D: --{{User:Drawde/Sig}} 22:59, 16 July 2010 (BST)
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==Suggestions up for voting==
'''Subway Tunnels''' -  Discussion moved to [[Suggestion talk:20100714 Subway Tunnels]].

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Ignore based on Radio Broadcast

Timestamp: Khwud (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Type: UI enhancement
Scope: Interface
Description: Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.

Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)

Shrink the map

Timestamp: --UroguyTMZ 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Type: Map change
Scope: Everyone
Description: There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.

Discussion (Shrink the map)

Action Points

Timestamp: User:Wolldog1 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
Type: Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
Scope: Everyone
Description: Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.

Discussion (Action Points)

Drone

Timestamp: RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Type: Survivor Item
Scope: Survivors
Description: Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.

Discussion (Drone)

Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Backpack

Timestamp: Wild Crazy (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Type: New item
Scope: Survivors
Description: This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?

A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?

A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Please give your thoughts.

Discussion (Backpack)

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