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| | Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. {{unsigned|Reimannsum|19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC)}} |
| | :Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC) |
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| | I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC) |
| | :Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day. |
| | :Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC) |
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| Your pages are sexy. Im looking at revamping the [[zombie skills]] page, converting it into a hub with each page having its own page. [[User:Rosslessness/Random Rambling/Sandbox4|Here's an example]], any thoughts on styling it up? --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:51, 16 April 2010 (BST)
| | [[Soldiers of Confusedmen|This is comedy gold.]] --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC) |
| :Heh, well, style isn't something that comes naturally for me. I spent a few months figuring out what my pages should look like, and threw out several designs that initially seemed promising. I can recognize decent design usually, but I'm not good at producing it. Anyway, I'm responding now to let you know I'm not ignoring you, but that I want to take a bit more to think over it. Any timeline you have on this? I have one idea regarding displaying the entire hierarchy at the top of each page, but it was taking longer to make than I expected. Aside from that idea, I don't have anything new at the moment. I'd change the shade of green though, since it glares a bit. Something a bit muted would work better, I think (#cec or #aca are decent, though you could go darker to #8a8 or the like if you want). I'll look at it again and think over it a bit more later. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 05:24, 17 April 2010 (BST) | | :Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC) |
| ::Two pence here. I agree on the darker green, but I'm thinking instead of displaying the whole skill hierarchy, just the particular tree in question (Memories tree, Vigor tree, etc) would be all that is needed. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 13:39, 17 April 2010 (BST) | | ::Someone played the long *con* here... --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
| :::I was going to display the tree horizontally. Or rather, display each main branch of the tree under its own column. It'd be using the same amount of vertical space as your idea, but it'd fill out the horizontal better, give better utility, and would also give them a clearer idea of where they were in the hierarchy. Anyway, it's almost 8am here...bed time! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:44, 17 April 2010 (BST)
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| ::::As i started the project about a year ago, there's no hurry. But thanks. Nice Idea about the tree. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 14:34, 17 April 2010 (BST) | |
| :::::Looking good. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 10:37, 29 April 2010 (BST)
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| | Aichon you are beautiful. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC) |
| | :Just having a little fun. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC) |
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| Hey, Aichon, I made another super easy change to one of your scripts, if you're interested. All I did was replace the redrum map links with links to the DSS map. I'm not sure what the best external map is, but at least DSS works. So, [http://cid-fe5f8a8e9e0ac534.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/UDMap.zip here's the script.] - [[User:Cam moo|Cam moo]] 19:00, 21 April 2010 (BST)
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| :Huh...coulda sworn I had updated that one already, but you're absolutely right, I hadn't. Thanks a lot! I'll update it later today since I'm heading out in just a sec here. And yep, I was planning to switch all of my scripts to use the DSS map soon, since I prefer it to the aypok map that some of them are linking to at the moment. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:11, 21 April 2010 (BST)
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| ::Actually, shoot, I just realized that I messed that up. The world map links to DSS, but the suburb map links to aypok. I have no idea how I didn't notice that, but [http://cid-fe5f8a8e9e0ac534.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/UDMap.aypok.zip this one] links to aypok on both of them. The DSS map is nicer, so maybe the first one is better, but I don't know how to have the suburb map link to DSS, since the urls use a different format than the redrum/aypok maps do. Sorry about that! This is why I don't write scripts. - [[User:Cam moo|Cam moo]] 19:29, 21 April 2010 (BST)
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| :::Heh, well, many thanks. I'll take a look at things once I get a chance and see what I can come up with (helping to operate a university lecture at the moment, so unable to work on scripts right now). Regardless of what does or doesn't work, pointing out the problem in the first place is massively helpful, since I don't personally use those links too often (I usually use the similar links in my GPS script). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:08, 21 April 2010 (BST)
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| | == The years fly by...== |
| | Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC) |
| | :I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes. |
| | :Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially. |
| | :You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC) |
| | ::Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC) |
| | :::Oh, ''just'' that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC) |
| | HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC) |
| | :SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC) |
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| any tips on how to make the bottom of the image on [[User:DanceDanceRevolution/sandpit/7]] cuddle up to the black div below it, so there's no red inbetween? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 15:29, 27 July 2010 (BST)
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| :Well, for the life of me I can't figure out why it's doing that, but I do know a way to fix it easily. Just replace <code><nowiki>[[Image:4020head.png|850px|4020]]</nowiki></code> with <code><nowiki><div style="margin-bottom: -8px;">[[Image:4020head.png|850px|4020]]</div></nowiki></code> and you should be fine. Cool looking design, by the way, though I'd suggest having the black bars stretch all the way to the left, rather than leaving white space there. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:39, 27 July 2010 (BST)
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| ::You godsend. Thanks for the advice too, just bumming around atm for when I make a small group for me and my buddies again. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 09:04, 28 July 2010 (BST)
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| | penus {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
| | :About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo. |
| | :Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC) |
| | ::i'm kids. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC) |
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| :Did I miss something? I was thinking this might be AHMH3 related, but my 7th place finish is well ahead of your 15th, so I don't see why your "grr"ing me, and the two kills I made on you didn't affect your placement in the rankings at all. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:24, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::Ohhhhh. I [http://iamscott.net/1280658417160.html see] why now. Well, don't worry, while you may have some qualms about shooting people after the Manhunt is over, I have none. >:) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:28, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::If you had died, I would have gained three or so places...--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature}} 20:28, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::More even. And, in retrospect, killing you again last night wasn't a good idea of mine. Even if I'm back on as a regular PKer now, it just wasn't the right thing to do, so I did want to apologize for that. It was rather rude of me. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 20:48, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::Pff, death really doesn't bother me. My main is killed every day, it really doesn't even phase me.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 20:51, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| ==Template Name== | | Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! {{unsigned|Ragno|10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)}} |
| I've seen the template [[User:TripleU/Sandbox5|used here]], but can't for the life of me figure out what the name of that template is. Could you help me find it so I could use it on the wiki too? -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 05:37, 1 August 2010 (BST)
| | :Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it. |
| :Sorry, don't recognize it. I'd suggest asking TripleU, since it ''is'' his page you're asking about. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 06:00, 1 August 2010 (BST)
| | :No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC) |
| | | ::No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on. |
| | | :: https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html {{unsigned|Ragno|22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC)}} |
| == Re: Every Villain Is Lemons ==
| | :::Good news - Avarice77 fixed it for me. Thanks! https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/497161-ud-underline-related-profile-links {{unsigned|Ragno|14:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)}} |
| Thanks for the feedback, we dig your request, but I'd recommend you wait a couple of weeks or so before jumping in as the oldies are in the process of feeding all our current new players, we have our hands full at the moment and I foresee a pretty big drag of a startup phase. Out of curiosity, do you have DSS satellite phone? -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 11:31, 1 August 2010 (BST)
| | ::::Awesome. Yeah, I've had a reminder poking me about this every week for the last few months, but it had been so long that I forgot what my reminder was even about. >_< I'm very glad you were able to get it sorted out. I'll update that entry with a link to his code. Thanks! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} |
| :Afraid not. Doesn't work with Safari. You can shoot me an e-mail or hit me up on one of the forums I'm at though (all of the groups I'm with have forums) if you want something private. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 11:37, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::No problemo, just curious for now. Might give you a PM or an email if our group makes it through the getting-up phase :D -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:00, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::You do have to admit though, it's kinda curious to have a recruitment ad up if you're recommending people don't join. :P {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 12:10, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::Right you are- I was going through the motions of making the group on the wiki and then you asked about joining and it was only then that I realised the group probably wasn't quite ready yet :( I think I'll take the rec add down for now :( -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 12:17, 1 August 2010 (BST)
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| First off, the tradition is to bold links to the groups mainspace. Second of all, maybe it's just me, but sometimes, the links seem to run on into the sentences, and it's hard to tell if there's even a link there sometimes. Could we possibly leave it bolded? -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 03:08, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| :If I had my druthers, we'd unbold both, but I figured I'd compromise and only unbold the one to your groupspace. I know it's tradition for you guys, but it's also not fair to other groups and events to be bolding your links and not theirs. As for blending in, that's what the bright blue text is for. We can ask someone else though. Hit someone else up for their opinion. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:14, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::My opinion is no bolding. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:17, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::Blue text,... I've got purple text.... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 03:23, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::Because your browser's history remembers that you've viewed the page. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:26, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::MMMkkkk,... I've never seen a blue link on the wiki?... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 03:31, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::Something is very wrong for you then. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 03:36, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::Nah! I'm just messin' with you. I never thought about it being blue... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 03:51, 3 August 2010 (BST)
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| that you assist me in forming a group of newbie dinosaurs.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 17:27, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :I don't get it. "Newbie dinosaurs"? I'll need more details, but I'm not keen on babysitting newbie PKers (not that I'm some hotshot), I have to say... {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:50, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::Basically, it would let us enter and bypass the group rule by padding the group with low levels, and hopefully as many adepts as I can get. :P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 21:53, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::Well, yes, but what's this about dinosaurs? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:58, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::Dinosaurs are fun. I needed a new alt for the group ->>> Dinosaur Group. :P But yeah, not everyone needs to be dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are just fun.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 22:00, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::Okay, now I get it a bit more. I had no idea what you meant before. So, what do you need me to do, exactly, to help form this group? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:04, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::Not much really. Since you're an experienced player, I'll bring you in as co-leader, and I'll recruit 3 newbs / other experienced people. Then we enter the EVIl manhunt as a team and win. That's the plan, basically. :P --{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 22:08, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::You can lead. I'll be the faithful second in command. You got a board or something you want to set this up at? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:34, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::Nope. Want me to set one up or should you?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 22:39, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::Technically, you could have a group of Two... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 22:45, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::Well, better to have an army of newbs who people will feel guilty killing.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 22:47, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::I wouldn't.... Easy points really. I'd steam roll them.... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 22:59, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::Yeah, you're widening the field when there's unscrupulous bastards like me leading groups in it. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:02, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::Well it isn't looking like I'll find the dinosaur cadets anyway.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 23:03, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::My offer to Aichon still stands,... and I'll extend it to you as well. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 23:05, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::I'm good thanks. If Aichon wants to abandon me and my ability to be killed 11 times in a month, though, he's welcome to.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 23:10, 4 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::You could just take your cultist, (and Aich, take Emma) and join me. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 23:12, 4 August 2010 (BST) | |
| ::::::::::::::::No, I've shooped a picture of a trex with a disco ball and sunglasses. There's no going back for me.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 23:23, 4 August 2010 (BST) | |
| ::::::::::::::::It's Doug that does this stuff, since Emma is already being preempted for BB3 as it is. And which group are you doing again, Mis? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:25, 5 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::::::RDD. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 00:27, 5 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::::::I'm still weighing my options, honestly. Yonn has a compelling case with dinosaurs, however. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:32, 5 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::We could just make a tinychat or get an IRC room. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:32, 5 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::Sounds cool, but I don't know how to do either of those things.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 17:44, 5 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::Having thought about it some more, I think I'm gonna pass on RiaC, but if you want some help with the technical stuff for setting up Discosaurs, hit me up. I'm more than willing to help out. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 09:40, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| you playing in the Rage In a Cage at all? I'd love for you to join the All-Stars for it, if you're interested. We got all the big names atm so we have a pretty good chance. -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 06:17, 6 August 2010 (BST)
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| :Been weighing my options while I figure out if I want to join, honestly. *points to header just above this one* I'll get back to you, Mis, Yonn, and Poodle sometime in the next day or two here, once I make up my mind on which offer to take (assuming I take one at all, of course). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 08:33, 6 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::For sure. Discosaurs could have been epic if the all-stars weren't made :( I would have campaigned the shit out of that! -- {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig3}} 10:40, 6 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::As per my other comment I just made, I think I'm gonna pass on this manhunt (just not feeling it at the moment...hunting doesn't appeal right now), but best of luck to the All-Stars in their endeavors! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 09:42, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| <nowiki>*</nowiki>[[UDWiki:Administration/Vandal_Banning/Archive/2010_08#Erm...|Cough]]* -- {{User:Krazy_Monkey/sig}} 19:58, 6 August 2010 (BST)
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| :Yeah...I was wondering why you didn't just ban him yourself when you voted. Figured maybe you just didn't feel like it. Anyway, thanks for pointing out the error on my part, and if it goes to A/M, you won't hear any contest from me, since I was definitely incorrect. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:03, 6 August 2010 (BST)
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| Hi, can you help me with my sig or direct me to a tutorial page? I'd like to make one. Maybe just putting some colors. Thanks! --[[User:DiSm|DiSm]] 14:17, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| :[[Help:Templated Signatures]] should cover the basics, and anything you need beyond that, just come back and ask. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 15:12, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::Misanthropy covered it. Check that page out and see how it goes for you. If you're having any issues with coloring, sizes, or whatever else, just come back, ask, and I/we will be happy to help you out with it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:52, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::: Ok nice, i'll look that tonight. Just another question totally unrelated, when you responded I wasn't notified. It's obligatory to click the "watch" button, right? --[[User:DiSm|DiSm]] 21:16, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::Yeah, some/most of us have our preferences set to automatically watch pages that we edit, and then we periodically check our [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]] (others, such as Mis, simply watch [[Special:Recent Changes]] like a hawk). You only get notified when someone posts to your actual talk page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:18, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::: The Recent Change page is hardcore enough for me thanks ;) I'm trying to make my signature. Late I'll try putting colors. --{{User:DiSm/sig}} 21:22, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::I'll have you know I watch my watchlist like a hawk, and RC more like a vulture. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:28, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::: Oh isn't that crazy look at that sig! thanks. I may have made a mistake by creating a page that now craves its speedy deletion [[DiSm/sig]]. Sorry --{{User:DiSm/sig}} 21:31, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::Since you asked for a deletion here and you were the only author of it, I was able to handle it as as scheduled deletion. So...I didn't see it if you didn't. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:37, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::: This should be OK for some time, I'm quite happy with my sig. I also discovered lots of cool clickable boxes on the "my preferences" page! En Route to Glory! --{{User:DiSm/sig}} 21:48, 8 August 2010 (BST) | |
| ::::::::::Most excellent! Well, let us know if you run into any issues. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:49, 8 August 2010 (BST)
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| == RE:Removing non-suggestion comments from page ==
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| I ''think'' he was trying to make a suggestion - obviously he hadn't read any of the instructions at all. Do you want me to try and sort him out, or will you? Or is he just not worth it? --{{:User:Alexander Dawkins/Sig}} 20:47, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| :He was trying to make one, yes, but it ended up just being a request, not a suggestion. Since it didn't follow the instructions, and it had no obvious merit, I saw no point in fixing it for him. I.e. it's not worth it, since it'd be spammed out once the mandatory six hours were up anyway. Also, that page is not a talk page, so please don't respond there. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:02, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| ==Featured updates==
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| Its actually the kind of job that would be brilliant for someone wanting to be a sysop. Mention it next time someone moans. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:08, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| :I definitely agree. It's low-profile, thankless, janitorial jobs like those that are the easiest way to get your foot in the door for a sysop position, I'd say. Even so, you're not gonna get any help from me, since I was never really very supportive of the idea (I didn't ''dislike'' it, I simply thought that this weekly maintenance would be a hassle, and I'd say I've been proven right), and "helping to become a sysop" never held up as an incentive for me since I wasn't interested in the position anyway. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:12, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::There's no way to set a switch function on a weekly basis, is there? It'd be a simple case of racking up the template to loop the pool, then editing it whenever a new article gets the green light. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:15, 9 August 2010 (BST) | |
| :::The effort lies in writing the little descriptions, not updating it.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 21:18, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::Yes, but the point is that instead of making it a maintenance job where a new synopsis has to be done every week, it then becomes a case of one day's effort which rolls out gradually. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:20, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::And no, there is no way to do it. From what I understand, however, if we had the update to the wiki software, there may be a way to do stuff like that, though I haven't looked into it much. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:21, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::Damn. Well, still, I guess I could patch up some ready-made synopses for the featured articles we have already, create them as subpage (of Featured, or of the page in question?), which can then just be included template-style for the update so it's easier to do. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:23, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::Well, I guess I should rephrase. It's not possible to do what you suggested exactly, but it is possible (in an EXTREMELY complicated way) to make the same effect that you wanted happen. It would involve having to make nested switch statements with both the month and the day, and it would not at all be easily maintainable by regular users. I think I mentioned it during some of the conversations for Featured Article, but quickly threw out the idea. I'd strongly recommend against it, just because it'd be far too messy for a system that is actually meant to be updated from time to time. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:25, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::Oh I abandoned switch when you said it wouldn't really work. I mean now to just make the manual update a case of simply changing the Featured box's code from <nowiki>{{:UDWiki:Featured Articles/Decay}} to {{:UDWiki:Feature Articles/Spawning}}</nowiki> (as an example), making a thankless manual task just a case of remembering to change it, not about writing it up any more. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 21:32, 9 August 2010 (BST) | |
| :::::::::What I'm going to do is leave it to the person who's written the most featured articles for now. --{{User:Rosslessness/Sig}} 21:28, 9 August 2010 (BST)
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| == If Template ==
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| Where's the If "THIS" then "THAT" Template?--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 00:10, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :Well, starting at the "highest level" templates (I call them that, because they are built on other templates), you might be referring to {{tl|if}} or {{tl|if equal}}. The former checks if variable 1 is defined, and, if so, it outputs variable 2. If it's not defined, it outputs variable 3. The latter template checks to see if variables 1 and 2 equal each other. If they do, then it outputs variable 3, otherwise it outputs variable 4. If we go "lower", there's also {{tl|ifdef}} and {{tl|ifndef}}. The first checks to see if variable 1 is defined, and then outputs variable 2 if it is, while the second outputs variable 2 if variable 1 is not defined. Lower still is just using default values for variables in templates, though that kinda works more in the if not this then that sense. Oh, and {{tl|switch}} might be useful for you too. If none of those float your boat, you might also check some of my sandboxes for AND, OR, and XOR logical operators that I wrote a long time ago, but haven't found a use for yet. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:24, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::You're right, this is all far too complex. I'm working on a far simpler way.--{{User:Yonnua Koponen/signature2}} 00:28, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::What always puzzled me, is I see their usage, and understand what they're supposed to be doing, but what I don't get, or can't see, is what they're actually doing. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 00:50, 10 August 2010 (BST) | |
| ::::I don't follow. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:05, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::I know that they exist. I understand the how, Aichon gave us that. I knew that prior to this conversation. I just don't understand the why. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 01:31, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::Why ''what''? Why they exist? Why they work? I never gave the how for their working or their existence, though I did give it for their use, but "why use them" is the same as asking "why do they exist", so there's no point in restating it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 01:43, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::I've already answered your questions. I know why exist. I understand the how. I just don't understand what they are meant to accomplish... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 01:52, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::Again, I don't follow. Clearly there's some disconnect in our understanding each other, since in my book, if you understand why they exist, you know what they are meant to accomplish. The two are the same. I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, but I genuinely don't get what you're asking, and was merely looking for clarification on your question. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:12, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::I'm trying to ask you politely,... but alas I've failed. You'll think I'm asking something you've already answered, but alas, you'd be mistaken. My question, though it seems to be already answered, is not. What the fuck do they do? I know that they are there to provoke a response, if a then b, if c then d.... I know that they are there to direct the flow of data. I understand what they are meant to do, and thus the why. I know how they do it, and thus the how. "What" is the question... What do they do? I see them on the wiki. I know what they are meant to do,... I know why they exist... I just can't figure out what they accomplish... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 02:25, 10 August 2010 (BST) | |
| ::::::::::They spit out variables based on input. As has already been stated. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:26, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::No, I don't think I answered your question, which is why I keep asking for clarification. It's obvious to me that I've failed to answer the question you're asking since you and I are using words differenly. So, let me restate what I think you're asking in my own terms. You're asking me what is the effect that they cause? As in, what do they actually change? Like, you see them in the code, and you know they control stuff, but you don't know what changes as a result of the control? If so, basically, we use them for lots of things. For instance, with the BB3 page, I use that {{tl|ifdef}} one to check if the announcements page has any text on it, and if it does, then I display the announcements on all of the BB3 pages, otherwise I display nothing at all. Or with the GSGM template that was mentioned, as groups were confirmed, the GSGM folks could write the word "Confirmed" into the template, and the {{tl|if equal}} one could recognize the word and then change the background color for that group so that it showed visually it was confirmed. Anyway, if that doesn't answer your question, I'm gonna need some more clarification or restating, since I just don't ''get'' what it is that you're asking, but I ''do'' want to answer whatever it is. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:35, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::Mis went the direction I would of expected you to go, and you went the way I didn't. Thank you. You've answered my questions... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 02:42, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::You do realise that Aich pretty much rehashed the first response he gave right up there, yeah? {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 02:45, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::Look, I'm having a really shitty day, so don't take any of what follows to personally. To be quite honest... even I regurged it back in a way. Now piss off, and mind your own damn buisness you pathetic peice of trolling shit.... -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 03:08, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| :::::::::::::Sure thing. And you gotta remember, I've spent 2.5 of the last 3 years working as a TA for Computer Science courses. I ''like'' explaining these sorts of things, but it's simply a matter of knowing what it is that I'm supposed to explain. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:45, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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| ::::::::::::::I guess I understand,... I'm more of a visual person though... I'm going to have to borrow that code, and tinker with it,... and see the difference. Thanks. -{{User:Poodle of doom/sig 2}} 03:08, 10 August 2010 (BST)
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