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=Suggestions=
===Ignore based on Radio Broadcast===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Khwud|Khwud]] ([[User talk:Khwud|talk]]) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' UI enhancement
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|'''Scope:''' Interface
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|'''Description:''' Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible.  Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience.  In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.
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====Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)====
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===Shrink the map===
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|'''Timestamp:''' --[[User:Uroguy|Uroguy]]<sup>[[Zookeepers|TMZ]]</sup> 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Map change
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|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.
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====Discussion (Shrink the map)====
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===More Zombie Starters===
===Action Points===
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|'''Timestamp:''' <span style="background:cyan; border:dashed 3px lime">[[User:Jebidijed|Jebidijed]]</span> 15 July 2013
|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wolldog1]] 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
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|'''Type:''' Well, more Zombie Starters!
|'''Type:''' Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
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|'''Scope:''' Zombies
|'''Scope:''' Everyone
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|'''Description:''' If you want to start out as a human, you can pick from 3 classes, Scientist, Military, and Civilian. As soon as you get to level 10, you can upgrade to the Zombie Hunter. When you want to start as a zombie, all you get is the Corpse. I believe there should be more classes for the zombie.
|'''Description:''' Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game.  I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.
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====Discussion (Action Points)====
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'''Rotter:''' A zombie that starts out with the [[Brain Rot]] skill, making it easier for them to stay as a zombie, and get [[Flesh Rot]] quicker.
===Drone===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Rosslessness|<span style="color: MidnightBlue ">R</span><span style="color: Navy">o</span><span style="color: DarkBlue">s</span><span style="color: MediumBlue">s</span><span style="color: RoyalBlue"></span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness|<span style="color: RoyalBlue">l</span><span style="color: CornflowerBlue">e</span><span style="color: SkyBlue">s</span><span style="color: LightskyBlue">s</span>]][[User_Talk:Rosslessness/Quiz|<span style="color: LightBlue">n</span><span style="color: PowderBlue">e</span>]][[Monroeville Many|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]][[The Great Suburb Group Massacre|<span style="color: PaleTurquoise">s</span>]]<sup>[[Location Page Building Toolkit|<span style="color: DarkRed">Want a Location Image?]] </span> </sup>  19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' Survivor Item
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|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.
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====Discussion (Drone)====
Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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'''Carnivore:''' A zombie that starts out with the [[Digestion]] skill, making it easier for them to survive as a zombie.
===Backpack===
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|'''Timestamp:''' [[User:Wild Crazy|Wild Crazy]] ([[User talk:Wild Crazy|talk]]) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
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|'''Type:''' New item
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|'''Scope:''' Survivors
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|'''Description:''' This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).
 
 
Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?
 
A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


'''Innovator:''' A class that a zombie can choose only when they are Level 10 or higher, much like the Zombie Hunter. It allows the zombie to pick any of the skills a human can, but cannot pick any of the branching skills of a human.
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====Discussion (More Zombie Starters)====
A quick question right up front: why?


Even without considering your suggested classes, I can already tell you that this isn't desirable unless you're suggesting some much bigger, sweeping changes to the skill trees. The starting classes are used to encourage specialization, but since everyone eventually gets all skills, the only time specialization matters is when you're leveling up. The survivor skill tree has a few branches that are oriented around items that need to be searched for, and those branches go deep, meaning that the low-level survivor is encouraged by the structure of the tree and the way that searching works in the game to specialize on one branch when they first start (their starting class further encourages this idea by making skills in their class cost less than skills in other classes, and by starting them off with an inventory that caters to their starting class). In contrast, zombies get XP by damaging things, and the skills that optimize their damage are extremely shallow on the tree, meaning that the game isn't putting any pressure on them to specialize, nor would specializing offer them any benefit, since the way that they gain XP is simply by damaging things.
Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?


Also, I assume that starting in these classes would mean that the zombie does ''not'' start with Vigour Mortis already learned? I.e. You'd be making them worse at damaging things, which is their chief way to get XP. The Carnivore class' stated idea that it will "[make] it easier for them to survive as a zombie" is somewhat silly, since dying is just part of playing a zombie. The best way to "survive" is to have more AP, so start them off with Lurching Gait. And the Innovator skill is redundant, confusing to players, and kinda useless. All of the skills the Innovator would gain access to are already available without having to purchase a separate skill, and aside from Body Building, none of them are useful except when you're alive (unless you're suggesting that zombies should be able to shoot guns, in which case your suggestion has bigger problems :P), so being able to acquire them while still being a zombie is of no benefit whatsoever. It'd also confuse players why they can acquire some skills but not others. Rotter is a better idea, but Vigour Mortis would give zombies a better start, so giving them Brain Rot instead would just be setting them back.
A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


In the end, I don't see a need for any of these, since there isn't a need for zombie specialization while leveling up like there is on the survivor side, nor are there the secondary concerns of starting inventory and the like. And even if there were, I don't think that these classes are the way to go. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:45, 15 July 2013 (BST)
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==Suggestions up for voting==
Please give your thoughts.
The following are suggestions that were developed here but have since gone to voting. The discussions that were taking place here have been moved to the pages linked below.


'''[[Suggestion:20130514 Free running out of ruined buildings|Free running out of ruined buildings]]'''
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:<small>by [[User:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="red">Payne</font>]][[User talk:Paynetrain|<font size="4" face="Matura MT Script Capitals" color="blue">Train</font>]]<sup>'''([[NWO]]/[[FU]])'''</sup> at 13:16, 14 May 2013 (BST) </small>
====Discussion (Backpack)====
'''[[Suggestion:20130502 Change in Graffiti Defilement Mechanics]]'''
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:by [[User:Lpha|Lpha]] at 22:58, 2 May 2013 (BST)

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Ignore based on Radio Broadcast

Timestamp: Khwud (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Type: UI enhancement
Scope: Interface
Description: Allow 'ignore' from radio broadcasts; users are hiding behind their anonymity to allow them to broadcast things that would broadly trigger them to be ignored, if their user ID was visible. Adding their name, or an auto-generated call-sign (it is for a radio, after all) or something so that they could be blocked based on their broadcasts would help user experience. In addition, and broadcasts that get more than a threshold number could get tagged for review, and the user potentially having their (in-game) ham-license revoked.

Discussion (Ignore based on Radio Broadcast)

Shrink the map

Timestamp: --UroguyTMZ 16:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Type: Map change
Scope: Everyone
Description: There are just over 3000 active characters in the game currently likely counting a significant percentage of alts and zergs. Shrinking the map by eliminating the outer first two rings of suburbs would increase the amount of interactions between the remaining characters. This shrink could be increased or decreased depending on future changes to the playerbase.

Discussion (Shrink the map)

Action Points

Timestamp: User:Wolldog1 10:07, 26 July 26, 2022
Type: Action Points Increase Regeneration Rate
Scope: Everyone
Description: Due to the passage of time with mobile games and other real time action games without restriction, I think that we should address the action points system of the game. This game can only realistically be played for 5 minutes a day. So it's not really a seller for new blood. If we want to see this game survive it needs to evolve into something more exciting than 5 minutes. My suggestion is double the regeneration rate to improve activity. I love this game. I want to play it more. And the die hard fans I'm sure feel the same. More will go on in a day, sure. But that's for both sides. We're ready for it. Let's get this game moving again. We need this.

Discussion (Action Points)

Drone

Timestamp: RosslessnessWant a Location Image? 19:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Type: Survivor Item
Scope: Survivors
Description: Portable drone, found in mall tech stores, which are pointless as we all know. Encumbrance is 10%. When activated for 15ap they provide an image of a 10x10 grid centred on the survivor, showing the current outside status of all blocks including zombies, survivors and dead bodies. Like DNA scanners, Drones are multi use.

Discussion (Drone)

Would there be a message displayed to the players to the effect of "there's a drone buzzing overhead", similar to a flare? --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 02:19, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Backpack

Timestamp: Wild Crazy (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Type: New item
Scope: Survivors
Description: This will be a new item found in schools with a 2% find rate and sports stores with a 4% find rate. The low numbers are because, like a flak jacket, once you find it you have it forever. It increases you encumbrance by 30%. However, you can't use an item that is in your backpack until you remove it from the backpack. It costs one AP to add an item to your backpack and one AP to remove an item. An item affects your regular encumbrance until added to the backpack. Items such as GPS, radios, cell phones, and flak jacket do not work when in your backpack. Items in your backpack will not be shown in your inventory, but the backpack itself will be shown in your inventory. There will be a drop box next to the word backpack that shows all the items inside. When you click on an item in that drop box, it removes it from your backpack (1 AP).


Q: Wouldn't this buff survivors, since they can carry more bullets and kill more zombies?

A: Since it costs an AP to add and remove an item, it wastes a lot of AP to put bullet clips in your backpack if you are planning on using them right away.


Q: If it wastes AP, what is the point?

A: It will be useful if you want to carry around an extra stash of items, such as FAKs and Revivification Syringes, or if you are going far away from any resource buildings and need some extra supplies.


Please give your thoughts.

Discussion (Backpack)

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