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== Riddle me this ==
== API help ==
WE have and want the Burchell Arms. We want to make it a Zambah BAr.Give me some suggestions on how to reflect that. Otherwise it looks like the Arms is still Survivor Controlled with a meaningless sidebar at the bottom... Just saying this seems completely one sided. They no longer OWN it. We OWN it, we've been OWNing it; Tell me how I can resolve this. I mean, unless all you want is some pretty coding, I can give you that if so. I just want to clarify before I put all this work into it just to have someone reneg it. Let me know. I wont touch the pages till I hear back. I'll work on some basic Page forming and get a rough draft going in the mean time. {{unsigned|Raining Fire|20:39, 13 March 2014}}
Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. {{unsigned|Reimannsum|19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC)}}
:The problem with your edits wasn't so much wanting to update the [[Burchell Arms]] ''location'' page (which is both allowed and very welcome), as was the complete replacement of the page with a single sentence, destroying all the content like basic structure, categorization, danger report, mini-map and pretty much everything else. Completely wiping out the [[Burchell Arms Regulars]] ''group'' page didn't help either. - If you want to edit constructively, a start would be to keep the structure and pre-existing content of the page as it is, and limit your edits to the areas meant to reflect current events (such as Building Status, Historical Updates, and the related danger reports). --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 21:32, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
:Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If [[User:Revenant|Revenant]] is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
::Let's back up a step and make sure we're on the same page on some stuff.
::The BAR ([[The Burchell Arms Regulars]]) is a group that resides in [[The Burchell Arms]] (a bar). The BAR page is theirs and theirs alone to do with as they please. You're not allowed to edit it without their permission, since groups own their own pages and generally get to say who edits them and how.
::In contrast, [[The Burchell Arms|the location page]], much like [[Club_Bousfield|any other location page]] on the wiki, is owned collectively by the users of the wiki. You are welcome to edit it, but edits must be kept neutral, given that the location page is not yours alone to own or control. The current location page uses virtually the same basic structure that every other location page uses, though it's clearly been filled in with more details than that link I just provided. Given that the BAR is a notable group that has resided at the bar for years and years, the location page quite naturally reflects the undisputed fact that they have had a long-time presence there. At the same time, however, you have just as much right to edit the location page as they do, but because your efforts at that location are relatively recent, they'll naturally occupy less of the page at this time.
::If you want to get out the message that you own the bar, the most effective way to do so would be to [[Help:Making_a_Group_or_Character_Page|make a group page]], which you would control fully and which you would be welcome to edit to your heart's content. As for the location page, beyond updating the news and status sections, there's not much you can really do. I'd definitely suggest updating the [[User:DangerReport/The_Burchell_Arms|DangerReport]] for the location, that way it shows up as ruined on various maps around the wiki. You may also want to add a small mention regarding your group in the description section of the location page, as well as a link to your group page. Add a link to your group page to the [[Template:Rolt_Heights_Groups|group listing for Rolt Heights]] too, that way others know you're there.
::Also, since you and I haven't interacted before and you have no particular reason to trust that I'm impartial in this matter or advising you fairly, the truth of the matter is that I actually do have a history with this particular location (in addition to a history of participating in and [[Big Bash 4|leading]] [[Big Bash 3|zombie]] [[MOB|hordes]]). In fact, [[Philosophe_Knights|a group I'm in]] evicted the BAR members and [[Pinata|piñatad]] the Burchell Arms location 21 times over the course of 23 days last year. To say the least, you're not the first one to "own" the location, but you won't find any mention of our "ownership" on the relevant pages, since our "ownership" of the location in the game didn't give us any right to wipe out the history of the location, and we also understood that our presence there was but a heartbeat compared to the lifetime the BAR had spent there. Long story short, try and keep things in perspective and remember that none of the pages you edited are ones that you have sole ownership of, despite what might be going on in-game, hence why I suggest you make your own group page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Just wondering but what aspect of the Burchell Arms is being described here?  "The B.A.R pledge to maintain all these facilities according to the barricade plan of the area (below), as well as providing both safehouses and revives for locals."  It is following the BAR talking about their glorious deeds maintaining '''other''' buildings in the area.  Although the cade level (for the arms) certainly seems relevant as does mentioning who maintains that cade level, what does BAR providing revives and maintaining other buildings have to do with this building?  I was under the impression that the description was for the building not for what good deeds the groups occupying it perform. --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 21:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
::::If you go back and look at it in context with the preceding sentence that you didn't quote ("The pub has excellent strategic importance due to its proximity to two hospitals, Schreiber Drive PD, and to the east in Pescodside are the Clewett NecroTech building and the Otto Street revive point."), it seems apparent that they're talking about the strategic value of the bar given its proximity to other important locations, and that the bar is used as a staging point for revive and reclaim operations in the area. I'll grant that it could be rephrased more neutrally (much of the page could, if we're being honest), but the gist of it is an okay one, I think. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:56, 14 March 2014 (UTC)


Thank you for being thorough. That being said... Can I go in and add "Used to" to all relevant sentences? Just asking if this could be a good start? {{unsigned|Raining Fire|00:04, March 15, 2014}}
:I think you would have to hold the building for more than a couple of days, before doing something like that. The Burchell Arms is once again powered and at EHB. And even then, please be respectful of what others have created, even if it's only historic (talking about other parts of the wiki here, as it's pretty clear that BAR is still about) <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 00:26, 15 March 2014 (BST)</small>


Yup. It changed due to this. WE stopped because why put the time and effort into it if it's going to be... you know what. Read up thar ^ I don't have to explain myself to you. Now that we have this newfound information. IT WILL BE OURS. There was a cease fire. Bureaucracy. Happens. [[User:Raining Fire|Raining Fire]] 00:32, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
==Thanks==
:Funny. Because I was one of the feral zombies who helped you get into, and clear out the building originally. I then wandered off (as did others, no doubt). I figure that's got more to do with why the building reverted to survivor control, as other building in the area quickly do, after zombie break ins. Most zombies in the area keep moving, to find fresh meat <small>-- [[User:Boxy|boxy]] 00:41, 15 March 2014 (BST)</small>
I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
:Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day.
:Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)




== Thanks ==
== Your template coding still manages to troll years later ==
Well, me and my friends are happy for your help! Albeit for differing reasons. Me and my friends are there for some cold beer, goodtimes, friendship all around. (Sadly, I'm the one of the two whoactually Gives a F* a bout the wiki. I'm hoping that'll change if I could only Find some Random Horde that would love our ideals, Still working on the images for the page but I hope I can get it up soon. (lol) Tl;Dr Need to have something fancy to show my buds.)
[[Soldiers of Confusedmen|This is comedy gold.]] --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:Hey, I'm glad to offer advice, especially for folks that are just getting started on the wiki. There definitely is some bureaucracy around here, but by and large, so long as you try to be polite to others, give them the benefit of the doubt, and work towards making the wiki better ''for everyone'', you'll find that you can make quite a few friends and get your message out there more easily. I'm sure we'll get the pages sorted out so that the BAR and you can both agree with the results. :) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
:Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
::Someone played the long *con* here... --'''<span style="font-family:monospace; background-color:#222222">[[User:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime"> Spiderzed</span>]][[User talk:Spiderzed|<span style="color:Lime">▋</span>]]</span>''' 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)


Aichon you are beautiful. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
:Just having a little fun. ;) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


== Question ==
The barricade policy is pro-survivor, no? [[User:Raining Fire|Raining Fire]] 21:35, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
:Are you asking if even having one is POV? If so, then that's a subject for a debate that's been going on for years and that I lack the time for at the moment. Pragmatically speaking, however, barricade plans are allowed across the whole wiki, simply because they're a resource that nearly every player, regardless of side, can use. After all, even zombies can benefit from them by knowing which targets are likely to be squishier or where they should camp their rotter so as to hamper revives. That said, they must still be presented factually and as neutrally as possible. And if the very presence of the barricade plan offends your zombie sensibilities, some of the suburbs have examples for how zombies can have equal treatment for their side (though they're rather silly, if you ask me). {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 22:31, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
:I'll point out that the issue with NPOV is more taking sides rather than explaining them. [[UDWiki_talk:NPOV#Defining_NPOV|There's some discussion here talking about these sorts of things]]. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 00:02, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


A helpful little gnome. WIN* Just saying. Anyways.. HERE. Blunt and to the point.
== The years fly by...==
"Double POV isn't NPOV, a great example of this is Ridleybank in which both sides have a barricade plan up. Both are in POV because one side doesn't want barricades, the other one does."
Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Aichon, best guy out there so far, your POV? [[User:Raining Fire|Raining Fire]] 01:52, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
:I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes.
:The reason why we don't (or shouldn't) make a habit of putting zombie barricade plans where-ever there's a survivor one is because the zombie plans do not provide useful information. They aren't informative; they don't tell you something that you didn't know before. Barricade plans do have a point-of-view. It has a side. Explaining this side (that survivors have a barricade plan) is fine. This is a game; it has sides. This wiki describes the game. It makes sense we talk about the sides. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 02:37, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
:Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially.
::^^^ this. As AHLG said, the issue is more with taking sides than explaining them, since all significant viewpoints should be taken into account and noted, to paraphrase something Revenant said. If we're sanitizing everything to the point that it becomes equally useless to everyone, the wiki will have defeated its whole reason for being. Even so, things can still be presented in a factual, neutrally-worded, even-handed manner, even if they are ''regarding'' one side or the other, thus allowing them to remain NPOV. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 04:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
:You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
::Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/sig5}} 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
:::Oh, ''just'' that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
:SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)




== Intelligent Conversation ==
==     ==
About a game I've been playing since 2005 * Sidenote * I'm having a blast with the geek speak. /Just Saying/ . I knew this was going to be hard... ARgh. Just one thing I wanted to say, besides the fact that page has been, *protected* Is the disclaimer. I mean. I honestly don't think I was that harsh in my edits, but criticism is welcome. And about that barricade deal... It's POV then right? That's what I got from it.
penus {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
:About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo.
:Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
::i'm kids. {{User:Misanthropy/Sig}} 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


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Btw, So many run-ons! I just don't want to break out in an angry rant, so everything has been.. edited. XD [[User:Raining Fire|Raining Fire]] 12:47, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
==In-game zombie names==
 
Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! {{unsigned|Ragno|10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)}}
 
:Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it.
== Question ==
:No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
I was wanting to gauge interest regarding an potential in-game event.  Is there a place on the wiki for such a thing or should I just throw up a new page and see what becomes of it? There is a place for developing wiki stuff, which makes sense, but it would seem that there would be a similar place for in-game events.  --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 21:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
::No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on.
:[[Template:Community_Projects|Community Projects]]? It can be used for in-game stuff as well and is a decent way to try and gauge interest, since the old-timers all watch it, and the youngin's see it on the main page. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 21:03, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
:: https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html  {{unsigned|Ragno|22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC)}}
::Thanks.  I thought I'd looked and it was for wiki only, but it seems either I imagined that or am stupid or both.  --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 21:43, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Good news - Avarice77 fixed it for me. Thanks! https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/497161-ud-underline-related-profile-links {{unsigned|Ragno|14:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)}}
 
::::Awesome. Yeah, I've had a reminder poking me about this every week for the last few months, but it had been so long that I forgot what my reminder was even about. >_< I'm very glad you were able to get it sorted out. I'll update that entry with a link to his code. Thanks! {{User:Aichon/Signature}}
 
== UDICOS ==
Not sure if you've noticed but UDICOS and the DSS Sat Phone scripts seem to conflict. With both active the DSS Sat Phone doesn't work at all. I'm not sure if switching the order helps at all since the newest version of firefox/greasemonkey don't seem to support reorganizing the execution order of the scripts. --{{User:Sephikus/Signature}} 12:02, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:<s>Hmm...I seem to be unable to reproduce the problem you're describing. Could you describe it and walk me through it in a bit more detail?</s> (EDIT: I just reproduced it) Near as I can tell, with the latest Firefox/Greasemonkey, the satellite phone button either shows up in the "Others" or the "Unknown" section of your inventory, depending on if it executes before or after UCICOS, respectively, so everything up to that point appears to be working okay. Is it something after that that's broken?
:And it looks like it's still possible to rearrange execution order of items in Greasemonkey, simply by right-clicking on them in the Greasemonkey pane and telling them to execute sooner/later/first/last. You can also sort by execution order in the top right of the userscripts pane.
:Anyway, if you can help me out with those details since I don't have my own satellite phone number to test this stuff, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:23, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
::Okay, I think I see the issue now, and yup, it's an order of execution issue. UDICOS needs to be executed before the Satellite Phone. S, go to your Greasemonkey pane in Firefox, sort by execution order, and move UDICOS to "execute sooner" until it's before the sat phone. See if that fixes the issue for you. I'll let Sophie, the author of the sat phone, know the problem, and I'll add a note to UDICOS as well regarding compatibility. Thanks! {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:27, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:::And I just now noticed that this is a [[DSS_Satellite_Phone#The_satellite_phone_button_just_reloads_the_page|known issue mentioned on the Sat Phone page]]. Anyway, you should be able to follow her instructions to get yourself back up and running. If those don't work for some reason, please let me know and I'll look into it further. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:36, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
::::Yeah sorry didn't notice that until just now and didn't realize I could reorganize the entries by right clicking. It works now. Thanks for the prompt response. --{{User:Sephikus/Signature}} 15:08, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::No worries. I'm just glad it was something that had already been identified and had a solution, rather than an arcane problem. :) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 15:09, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Uses of Custom Title ==
I'm planning on going through the transclusions of Custom Title template and cleaning up some unnecessary uses of the template and thought I'd ask you something quickly. I'm a little confused as to why some pages have used Custom Title templates simply to copy their actual page name, align it left and leave it looking exactly the same as what it would if it custom title weren't used at all. Some examples are [[The Haynes Monument]]. Before I remove them I wanted to ask if there's an added functionality to this use of it that I'm missing? If not, I'll wipe them. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:41, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
:Nothing that I'm aware of. I'm guessing maybe someone just c/p'ed some text from elsewhere? Maybe a stalker has a better idea. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:46, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, I'll start cleaning up the few that exist. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:59, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, why do you think [[Tactical_Resource_Point]]'s bod of content is templated? Seems a bit unnecessary. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:46, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
:I'm thinking that was done just to keep things sane. It's a lot easier to move one line around when revising a page than a thousand, and some of those templates have quite a bit of code/text. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 03:48, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
::Ah. fair enough. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 03:59, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Group Active ==
Just wanted to say, as I don't know if it would have been put up, but Malton Safe Zone Security is re-active. Sorry about the inactivity, I just hope it isn't scheduled for deletion. I probably won't re-edit pages until I find someone to revive me... which is taking longer than I expected.... [[user:Isaac Tiberius|Jerrack]] [[File:MSZSButton.png|90px|link=Malton_Safe_Zone_Security|Malton Safe Zone Security]] 07:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
:We really don't go around deleting inactive groups like was done in the old days. These days, the only groups that get deleted are ones that have a line or two of text on their page, or else ones that are inactive and camping on a name that someone else wants to use. And no need to apologize. It's not a problem if a group goes inactive. That's perfectly fine. :) {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 19:17, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 
 
== Are we allowed to make categories specifically for pages in the User: namespace? ==
As it says on the tin. I know it's silly but I was thinking of placing the pages of a UD-style mini-game (like the ones using AHLG's templates) under a category. Wasn't sure if it's allowed or otherwise. It's just so I can have all those pages linked to one another without having to "play through" the entire story each time I need to fix something. Thank you in advance! --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3b}} 07:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
:Categories are fine, though it sounds like [[Special:PrefixIndex]] may also fit the bill, and it wouldn't involve having to add a load of categories to a load of pages. E.g. [[Special:PrefixIndex/User:Aichon|All of the pages in my userspace]]. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 07:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
:SpecialPrefix could be used for what you need, and using that method could theoretically be used for AHLG's game too. For example, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=DanceDanceRevolution%2Fsandpit&namespace=2 prefixindexing "DanceDanceRevolution/sandpit"] brings up only the sandpit pages with that prefix. Similarly, out of the [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=A+Helpful+Little+Gnome&namespace=2 billion] pages in AHLG's namespace, you could bring up each "level" by adding the level as a suffix, for example, [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=A+Helpful+Little+Gnome%2FChurch&namespace=2 "A Helpful Little Gnome/Church" brings up the church section]. There's no reason why you couldn't just use categories, but the advantage of this method, I'd imagine, is that it's automatic. The disadvantage would be that once you'd made the name you'd only be able to search using that name so you'd want to make sure it was all planned in advance. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 08:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
::Thank you both for your answers! Each side of the mini-game had pages that had a common prefix, so I'm glad this kind of automation exists. I would have dreaded editing each of the pages manually just to add them into a category. Is it just like searching by prefix? --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3b}} 12:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Yup. If the page is named "User:X/AWESOME_NAME", you can search for "User:X/AWESOME" and get all of the results that match, including AWESOME_NAME. {{User:Aichon/Signature}} 14:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

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Announcement: I'm no longer active. My talk page is still your best bet to get in touch. —Aichon— 04:39, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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API help

Bob Moncrief sent me your way. I'm looking at building a bot to prowl the Danger Reports and mark them as "unknown" after several months. I was thinking of using the API to pull page data and parse it to determine when it was last signed. It would also do the same for the MPMs every 5 days and mark them as 'old' or 'unknown' as needed. Bob didn't want to just give me the link to the API, and I don't blame him, but to talk with you about this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reimannsum (talk • contribs) 19:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC).

Sorry, but bots were never my area. From what I know, there isn’t a link to give you. Once you actually build a bot, a ‘crat can assign it bot permissions, but otherwise there’s not much more to it than Googling around to see how to actually build it. If Revenant is around, he can probably point you in the direction of folks who have experience making bots. —Aichon— 23:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)


Thanks

I only just realised you added the suburb mini-map to my user subpage about redoing the Main Page. Thanks so much for that! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 00:01, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Hah, yeah, I had to look up what you were talking about since I couldn't remember the details. Apparently I had some time to kill that day.
Hopefully it proves helpful in the future. I eventually lost steam on my attempt at redoing the main page when I realized that the ideas we had weren't technically possible (no way to modify the CSS across all themes so that we could make drop-down menus work for everyone), but I'd love to see you get a redesign off the ground and put into place, since it needs an update and you've already had some good ideas for how to improve it. —Aichon— 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


Your template coding still manages to troll years later

This is comedy gold. -- Spiderzed▋ 22:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hah! I haven’t played the game in years, but this made my day. I know there are a few other hidden gems scattered about, but I had forgotten about this one. Glad to see it paying dividends years later. —Aichon— 00:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Someone played the long *con* here... -- Spiderzed▋ 22:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Aichon you are beautiful. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 11:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Just having a little fun. ;) —Aichon— 13:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)


The years fly by...

Good to see you pop back in every now and then. Had a peek at your backloggery - just added you on Steam. Hope you're well! DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 01:27, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

I was actually reminded to poke in because I just switched to using some note taking software (Obsidian) that can operate a bit like a personal wiki. And I’m doing great! Life’s been crazy, but in good ways. Another kid, a different (better) job, and parents retiring five minutes away have meant a lot of changes.
Accepted on Steam, though I’m only marginally more active on Steam than here, so it’s nothing personal if it takes me a few months to notice a chat message. I actually still check Backloggery on a daily basis, even though I rarely engage with anyone socially.
You been holding down the fort? Took a quick glance around and it seemed like there aren’t any projects that could use quick advice. Even the drama has been fairly low recently from what I’ve seen. And what’re you up to these days off-wiki anyway? —Aichon— 02:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Very low, very dormant. Just the same ol' wiki ticking along nowadays. Obviously it's a shame, but in some ways it's welcome. Parents retiring near you sounds like a great change, especially when kids are involved. What's new since we last chatted? Hmm. I got a mortgage and a ring, so that's new. No kids though. DANCEDANCEREVOLUTION 09:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Oh, just that? ;P Congratulations and well done! And no rush on the kids. We also enjoyed having a few years before the kids arrived, which gave us time to do some projects and traveling that would've been 10x harder with the kids. We love them and wouldn't change a thing, but renovating the kitchen or taking a transatlantic flight would be a non-starter for us these days. How's home ownership so far? Hopefully you've been able to enjoy the newfound freedom that comes from home ownership without having to deal with the headaches that can arise. —Aichon— 19:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

HELLO SIR LONG TIME NICE TO SEE YOU. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 14:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

SALUTATIONS IT HAS BEEN TOO LONG I RECIPROCATE YOUR SENTIMENT. —Aichon— 21:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


penus They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

About twenty years back a grandparent told me a story about how they were talking with their very young granddaughter. The city of Miami came up at some point in one of their conversations. The granddaughter interrupted her grandfather. “Grandad”, she said, “It’s not your Ami, it’s my Ami.” Kids are selfish, yo.
Anyway, your misspelling reminded me of that story for some reason. —Aichon— 02:03, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
i'm kids. They never lynch children, babies—no matter what they do they are whitewashed in advance 01:26, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


In-game zombie names

Hello Aichon! There's a script of yours I would really like to use that I just can't seem to get working. I have had another player test too with the same problem. It's UD Same Character Highlighter. Sometimes with your scripts it's just a matter of changing the old references to http to https, but that didn't save me this time. Would be very handy to get Same Character Highlighter working for my group as we're zombies and it's a nightmare tracking who said what in-game as it just says "a zombie said". A full zombie name displayer would be even better, but I don't think there's a script for that? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talk • contribs) 10:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC).

Sorry for the super-slow response. It's been...a hectic few weeks. It's been a bit since I've been active in-game. Is Dumbwit or some other service that captures a snapshot of the game still around? If so, can you link me to a recent one that shows something like what you're talking about where a group of zombies is talking back and forth? Testing UD Same Character Highlighter was always tough because those messages disappear if you refresh the page, so I used to have a handful of iWits or Dumbwits around to help with testing it.
No promises on a timely fix for this (i.e. it may never happen, so don't get your hopes up too much), but if time allows in the next few weeks I'll see what I can figure out. —Aichon— 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
No worries on response time, thanks very much for giving it a look. Here's a couple of ispy links that you can try it on.
https://ispy.dxavier.net/1459863366.html https://ispy.dxavier.net/1641562398.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talk • contribs) 22:15, 06 December 2023 (UTC).
Good news - Avarice77 fixed it for me. Thanks! https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/497161-ud-underline-related-profile-links —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragno (talk • contribs) 14:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC).
Awesome. Yeah, I've had a reminder poking me about this every week for the last few months, but it had been so long that I forgot what my reminder was even about. >_< I'm very glad you were able to get it sorted out. I'll update that entry with a link to his code. Thanks! —Aichon—
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