User talk:WanYao

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Trolling and drama-whoring will not be tolerated. Any post may be deleted at my sole discretion.

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about arbitration cases and irc

yeah, i really fuckd up there... i let my trust on DDR cloud the fact that he was the owner of #urbandeadwiki, which would make him a biased arbitrator. Anyway, its not all lost, you can still file your own arbie against them and try to settle things with another (hopefully) unbiased arbitrator. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 14:52, 11 July 2009 (BST)

literally lollin --Cyberbob 15:01, 11 July 2009 (BST)

of course you are, bob, because it's obvious that you don't have anything real in you life to satisfy you.

anyway, hagnat... whatever... i was annoyed with you, but it's not a big deal. in any event, i'm sitting here looking at how easily the newfag sysop team got hoodwinked by cyberbob into being his unwitting pawns... and i don't think i want to have anything to do with an admin team that is this weak and wishy-washy, i'm just walking away from wiki admin shit -- unless grim gets his ass back here and gives these people a piece of reality :)

speaking of reality... it rears it's head in the middle of this... this wiki drama is so fucking trivial... get a fucking life, cyberbob, yeah... --WanYao 15:14, 11 July 2009 (BST)

ur too astute for me wanyao im like an open book to u :( (srsly how did u know about my life IRL????) --Cyberbob 15:18, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The claim that Cyberbob leads us in any way is a total fallacy. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:25, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The fact you tolerate his behavior says more then enough.--Thadeous Oakley 15:31, 11 July 2009 (BST)

and u....dont tolerate my behaviour? --Cyberbob 15:32, 11 July 2009 (BST)

The priority in my line of work, as a janitor, is that the job gets done. If that means doing so through a much more aggressive and rude attitude that other sysops, then so be it. I don't always agree with his decisions, and I never agree with his tendency to argue with petty quips till the bitter end, but if users like you are willing to get sucked into such arguments, then he'll always be there to keep you satisfied. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:35, 11 July 2009 (BST)

fuck.....youre making me look like a monster.................... (for satisfying tools) --Cyberbob 15:39, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Anyway, i fixed a mistake i did in the past now. Lil' late, but better late than never. I removed AS of his founder status from #udwiki and put rev as admin and the next successor for the channel if i lose my nick yet again (hardly, since ill be more active there now). --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 15:33, 11 July 2009 (BST)

BETTER NATE THAN LEVER --Cyberbob 15:34, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Fucking edit conflicts on my own talk page... anyway... I was saying...

One can be hoodwinked without being aware of it, and follow without knowing you're being led...

cyberbob has a personal grievance against AnimeSucks and, it appears, hagnat. That's the root cause of him wanting a new IRC channel: to give the big finger to his personal adversaries. Did you ever talk to AS about the channel? Or to the server's owner, jorm, about the way ops were handled in that IRC?

You're being manipulated, DDR. Just like you were manipulated into giving cyberbob sysop status in the first place... He was demoted for a reason, once before... You'll come to see soon enough, I bet, what kind of can of worms you've opened...

Anyway.... get this fucking bullshit off my Talk page.

And cyberbob... You are not welcome to post here, except for necessary wiki admin purposes... and in that case you are to comport yourself in a professional and mature manner. Otherwise I will get you banned from this talk page via arby. --WanYao 15:39, 11 July 2009 (BST)

I don't give a shit about Bob and his grievances with Hag or AS. I care about having a channel that works for users. Sonny actively made that harder and harder. My loyalties lie with something that encourages active UDWiki discussion and that was near impossible in #udwiki. You'd know of course, examples being relevant conversations just being downgraded to apathetic and non-constructive comments by users like Sonny, or him changing conversations to ridiculous arguments. Example, of course was the "Do you think the RRF are good?" And, of course, when he repeated it to me, and I said "yes", he banned me. Hardly a channel worthy of encouraging well-meaning users to. Of course, I applaud Hagnat at taking over the channel and redoing the hierarchy, and I support his intentions of bringing the channel back to it's glory, and I will help if asked, but it really was all too late, he should have considered doing that before rushing into an arbies case he knew nothing about, and in the end, his promises that he will stay may be just as hollow as those that he made when he went for re-promotion after Grim left. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 15:51, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Agreed, a channel like the new one is needed, and discussion of the wiki in a good enviroment is neccesary.-- Adward  15:59, 11 July 2009 (BST)

No. A new channel wasn't needed. UDwiki has been the wiki's IRC channel forever, and it ought to remained so. All that was needed was a zero-tolerance attitude towards trolling. /ignore Sonny would have been a start in that direction... Talking to AS about it was another step, because he's not at all unreasonable, if you actually approach him reasonably. And, finally, probably the smartest thing to have done was to PM jorm and tell him -- concisely -- what was going on. Jorm is both immensely supportive of the community, and at the same time completely no-bullshit...

But you guys did none of these things, did you? Instead, you just whinged and created a new and unneeded channel? And in the process played right into the hands of cyberbob's agenda. The latter is trivial matter, but... still... All of this drama was totally unnecessary -- if you'd gone about things correctly. --WanYao 16:39, 11 July 2009 (BST)

ehhhhh al this shit came up after the channel creation went down--xoxo 16:52, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Cyberbob's agenda? Forgive me if I don't take ZOMG CONSPIRACY right away, thanks.-- Adward  17:53, 11 July 2009 (BST)

Here we go, the Bob conspiracy, from those that know it most. It's nice to see that something brought you back to the wiki and the IRC channels, Wan. Maybe now you'll have a clue about what you're talking about. (Talked to AS, nothing happened. Ignore sonny and he repeats the question 6,000 times, one wonders why you never /ignored him, and yeah, the irony is that having to /ignore a channel's admin is really productive towards the use of a channel. And are you blind? NexusWar Admin stepped into the arbitration and specifically said it was up to us to sort out). Don't tell us that what we did was wrong, because you have yet to prove to us that making a new channel has upset anyone, besides the 4 ghosts that owned #udwiki channel beforehand. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:38, 12 July 2009 (BST)

And please, the notion that Cyberbob leads us is just idiotic. To think you haven't understood that Cyberbob always takes the brunt of every argument head on if it's his opinion to do so, and the idea that you translate that as 'leadership' among a "brainwashed clique" (ie. anyone who agrees with him and not with you) is once again laughable. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:45, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Read what I wrote again, DDR. About cyberbob, et al. I was very clear, but you didn't seem to understand what I was saying....

Furthermore, I don't see anywhere in that Arby case any posts from jorm... or any of the people who assist jorm with the whole nexuswar/barhah.com scene, other than an "unofficial" comment by karek. Please show me where this conversation took place. Seriously, did you ever approach jorm or, say, revenant and ask them to fix the ops on those channels? If not, why not?

Also, I never left IRC... I've just limited my participation to a few channels. There's more drama on IRC than on the whole wiki, so I've "narrowed my focus". And, finally, I've had Sonny on ignore since that stupid RRF troll incident, so I am not sure wtf you're talking about there. But whatever... You're right, it just doesn't matter, either way.... --WanYao 05:09, 12 July 2009 (BST)

Alright, mea culpa... I found where the NW folks stepped in... ooops... --WanYao 05:14, 12 July 2009 (BST)

his promises that he will stay may be just as hollow as those that he made when he went for re-promotion after Grim left * PRIORITIES * something i set really high this year in order to finally graduate, and i was really succesful at that with my thesis being approved this time. --People's Commissar Hagnat ^{[talk] [wcdz]} 21:10, 11 July 2009 (BST)

That proves nothing but your likeness towards Conndraka, which says nearly nothing. D^ANCED^ANCER^EVOLUTION (TALK | CONTRIBS) 01:38, 12 July 2009 (BST)