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::::I vote [[Roftwood]] then. A corner has its trade-offs although we have two no effort borders if we really want things to keep contained. Spreading out would defeat the purpose. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::I vote [[Roftwood]] then. A corner has its trade-offs although we have two no effort borders if we really want things to keep contained. Spreading out would defeat the purpose. --{{User:A Helpful Little Gnome/Sig}} 01:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::What about dunnel hills? That could only end well. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 04:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::What about dunnel hills? That could only end well. {{User:DanceDanceRevolution/a}} 04:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::I'd personally vote for seeing a second Ridleybank. While I know that Ridleybank could NEVER be replicated for the amount of time it has had its infamy, I'd like to see a safe suburb be smashed and completely destroyed for a long time. I think I have been seeing this too much from a zed perspective (as that is where my bias for bringing an alt in lies at the moment,) hence my leaning towards 'burbs that are fairly safe/"in survivor hands". PH (from the latter half of last year anyway) wasn't exactly -too- safe, it could have been a yellow 'burb, with how often incursions happened, and how large they generally were (it's also close enough to the then- "ruinclad" Fryerbank, which might have helped that.) I levelled both PKer and zed alts in PH (but not at the same time) because of the relative balance - there are always survivors and zombies I can heal for the quick XP (before killing the survivors off when I had enough skills to my name.)<br>Among the other suggestions, I think I like Roftwood. My voice is insignificant, and I accept that, but I prefer to start out in a more balanced suburb, than in a place already skewed towards survivors or zombies. Then hopefully, I'd see it fall over to the zed side for a decent amount of time (even a month would make me happy, but hopefully longer.) --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3}} 09:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::<s>I'd personally vote for seeing a second Ridleybank. While I know that Ridleybank could NEVER be replicated for the amount of time it has had its infamy, I'd like to see a safe suburb be smashed and completely destroyed for a long time. I think I have been seeing this too much from a zed perspective (as that is where my bias for bringing an alt in lies at the moment,) hence my leaning towards 'burbs that are fairly safe/"in survivor hands". PH (from the latter half of last year anyway) wasn't exactly -too- safe, it could have been a yellow 'burb, with how often incursions happened, and how large they generally were (it's also close enough to the then- "ruinclad" Fryerbank, which might have helped that.) I levelled both PKer and zed alts in PH (but not at the same time) because of the relative balance - there are always survivors and zombies I can heal for the quick XP (before killing the survivors off when I had enough skills to my name.)<br>Among the other suggestions, I think I like Roftwood. My voice is insignificant, and I accept that, but I prefer to start out in a more balanced suburb, than in a place already skewed towards survivors or zombies. Then hopefully, I'd see it fall over to the zed side for a decent amount of time (even a month would make me happy, but hopefully longer.)</s> --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3}} 09:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::I also tried to show this proposal to other people, and this was what someone had to say: "[D]on't forget though, it is going to have a flame back effect. Basically, the locals in the burb they end up choosing for their 'event" will not all be happy about it and as before, allot of the participants will be left behind in the burb after the event, possibly changing the burb permanently." As my above comment, I initially wasn't in favor of having it in a place that was already a ghost town (mind you, I'm not referring to a [[Dakerstown|"reverse" ghost town]],) but I can see why Dunell Hills makes a good candidate.<br>To further quote the person who does not participate in the Wiki that I discussed this with: "But yes, to clarify what I was trying to say above, I think the blockparty should rather bring life to a dead area instead of possibly messing with the dynamics in a "working" area, I fear some people might just quit if their way of life gets disrubted (sic) [...] I am one of those who would like the change of pace, but I kinda feel that in this, all participants need to be there by choice...."<br>This PoV might also have to be considered in choosing a 'burb; I realize that it's better to bring survivors and zeds to an empty, ruined 'burb, rather than to a place that is still fully operational (besides, PKing people in "safe" burbs is a little more fun than making them quit permanently over a change in conditions, imo.) --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3}} 10:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::I also tried to show this proposal to other people, and this was what someone had to say: "[D]on't forget though, it is going to have a flame back effect. Basically, the locals in the burb they end up choosing for their 'event" will not all be happy about it and as before, allot of the participants will be left behind in the burb after the event, possibly changing the burb permanently." As my above comment, I initially wasn't in favor of having it in a place that was already a ghost town (mind you, I'm not referring to a [[Dakerstown|"reverse" ghost town]],) but I can see why Dunell Hills makes a good candidate.<br>To further quote the person who does not participate in the Wiki that I discussed this with: "But yes, to clarify what I was trying to say above, I think the blockparty should rather bring life to a dead area instead of possibly messing with the dynamics in a "working" area, I fear some people might just quit if their way of life gets disrubted (sic) [...] I am one of those who would like the change of pace, but I kinda feel that in this, all participants need to be there by choice...."<br>This PoV might also have to be considered in choosing a 'burb; I realize that it's better to bring survivors and zeds to an empty, ruined 'burb, rather than to a place that is still fully operational (besides, PKing people in "safe" burbs is a little more fun than making them quit permanently over a change in conditions, imo.) --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3}} 10:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::: At the risk of pissing someone off just by posting about Dunell Hills, May I point out that as of this moment there is only one ruined building (The Dury Building) and the truly active Zombie population (28) is almost equaled by the active Survivor population (21). --[[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 14:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
::::::: At the risk of pissing someone off just by posting about Dunell Hills, May I point out that as of this moment there is only one ruined building (The Dury Building) and the truly active Zombie population (28) is almost equaled by the active Survivor population (21). --[[User:Conndraka|Conndraka]]<sup>[[User_talk:Conndraka|T]][[AZM]] [[Coalition for Fair Tactics|''CFT'']]</sup> 14:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 
:::::::: Huh. Things have changed in just two months, it seems. --{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3}} 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


All said on the subject of location, I still lean toward Roftwood.  Dunell Hills lacks the needed malls.  Penny Heights lacks the organized zombies nearby.  Plus the better scatter options actually help.  As for the current residents, I hope to not really change the day to day activity, just have it include larger numbers.  Events tend to impose on someone and it'll be more likely to keep a contested suburb contested (assuming an representative number of participants from each side). --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 01:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
All said on the subject of location, I still lean toward Roftwood.  Dunell Hills lacks the needed malls.  Penny Heights lacks the organized zombies nearby.  Plus the better scatter options actually help.  As for the current residents, I hope to not really change the day to day activity, just have it include larger numbers.  Events tend to impose on someone and it'll be more likely to keep a contested suburb contested (assuming an representative number of participants from each side). --<sub>[[User:Kirsty_cotton|<span style="color: lightgrey">K</span>]]</sub> 01:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
:You're right on Penny Heights' zeds mostly being ferals. While there was an organized zed group there, they moved on to another 'burb after a while. How do you feel about "free running lane" quality in the desired location? Would it be better to look for a place with "breaks" in the lanes like [[Peddlesden Village]] (Not that I endorse the 'burb as a whole; it's too quiet,) or a place with most locations being accessible to the free running network? I'm convinced of your view of not wanting to change the day-to-day activity on of whatever 'burb gets chosen, now.--{{User:Chirurgien/Signature2.3}} 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)





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I certainly do have some thoughts. I figured we could set out a suburb, preferably a corner 'burb so we actually do have two walls to keep a play area... and play the game while keeping within the suburb area. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 00:30, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

I'd certainly be up for change. I do want an area with plenty of TRPs (and ideally 2 malls). Have you (or anyone else) any specific thoughts? And would a central location or a border or corner location be more appealing? Not sure if a local zombie population is necessary, but having one nearby eliminates half the advertising need. --K 20:56, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Dulston seems to be a good candidate. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 23:21, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
If you're looking for two malls, Penny Heights comes to mind (Lumber Mall, Joachim Mall.) It borders the east of the city, too. --Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 00:08, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Dulston sucks and is so safe there's no point in survivors going there. Same for PH (except it doesn't suck). Do the middle of the map idea. Easier for people to get there in one day of travelling and it's more dangerous. A ZOMBIE ANT 01:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
I vote Roftwood then. A corner has its trade-offs although we have two no effort borders if we really want things to keep contained. Spreading out would defeat the purpose. --  AHLGTG THE END IS NIGH! 01:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
What about dunnel hills? That could only end well. A ZOMBIE ANT 04:10, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
I'd personally vote for seeing a second Ridleybank. While I know that Ridleybank could NEVER be replicated for the amount of time it has had its infamy, I'd like to see a safe suburb be smashed and completely destroyed for a long time. I think I have been seeing this too much from a zed perspective (as that is where my bias for bringing an alt in lies at the moment,) hence my leaning towards 'burbs that are fairly safe/"in survivor hands". PH (from the latter half of last year anyway) wasn't exactly -too- safe, it could have been a yellow 'burb, with how often incursions happened, and how large they generally were (it's also close enough to the then- "ruinclad" Fryerbank, which might have helped that.) I levelled both PKer and zed alts in PH (but not at the same time) because of the relative balance - there are always survivors and zombies I can heal for the quick XP (before killing the survivors off when I had enough skills to my name.)
Among the other suggestions, I think I like Roftwood. My voice is insignificant, and I accept that, but I prefer to start out in a more balanced suburb, than in a place already skewed towards survivors or zombies. Then hopefully, I'd see it fall over to the zed side for a decent amount of time (even a month would make me happy, but hopefully longer.)
--Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 09:54, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
I also tried to show this proposal to other people, and this was what someone had to say: "[D]on't forget though, it is going to have a flame back effect. Basically, the locals in the burb they end up choosing for their 'event" will not all be happy about it and as before, allot of the participants will be left behind in the burb after the event, possibly changing the burb permanently." As my above comment, I initially wasn't in favor of having it in a place that was already a ghost town (mind you, I'm not referring to a "reverse" ghost town,) but I can see why Dunell Hills makes a good candidate.
To further quote the person who does not participate in the Wiki that I discussed this with: "But yes, to clarify what I was trying to say above, I think the blockparty should rather bring life to a dead area instead of possibly messing with the dynamics in a "working" area, I fear some people might just quit if their way of life gets disrubted (sic) [...] I am one of those who would like the change of pace, but I kinda feel that in this, all participants need to be there by choice...."
This PoV might also have to be considered in choosing a 'burb; I realize that it's better to bring survivors and zeds to an empty, ruined 'burb, rather than to a place that is still fully operational (besides, PKing people in "safe" burbs is a little more fun than making them quit permanently over a change in conditions, imo.) --Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 10:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
At the risk of pissing someone off just by posting about Dunell Hills, May I point out that as of this moment there is only one ruined building (The Dury Building) and the truly active Zombie population (28) is almost equaled by the active Survivor population (21). --ConndrakaTAZM CFT 14:49, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Huh. Things have changed in just two months, it seems. --Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

All said on the subject of location, I still lean toward Roftwood. Dunell Hills lacks the needed malls. Penny Heights lacks the organized zombies nearby. Plus the better scatter options actually help. As for the current residents, I hope to not really change the day to day activity, just have it include larger numbers. Events tend to impose on someone and it'll be more likely to keep a contested suburb contested (assuming an representative number of participants from each side). --K 01:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

You're right on Penny Heights' zeds mostly being ferals. While there was an organized zed group there, they moved on to another 'burb after a while. How do you feel about "free running lane" quality in the desired location? Would it be better to look for a place with "breaks" in the lanes like Peddlesden Village (Not that I endorse the 'burb as a whole; it's too quiet,) or a place with most locations being accessible to the free running network? I'm convinced of your view of not wanting to change the day-to-day activity on of whatever 'burb gets chosen, now.--Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 03:35, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


Well, this is interesting.

I'm all kinds of interested in this sort of thing, and at least another person from a group I'm in likes the idea -- the question is whether we'd be coming in as the survivor group, or as the zed group (though I'm slightly leaning towards the latter, myself. Not sure about everyone else in said group.)
I already like the particular 14 x 14 block you chose, but AHLG has a good point about a corner 'burb -- two of the "boundaries" would be much less ambiguous than your chosen grid, but I feel like your choice is slightly more interesting to play in.
I can probably assist with some advertisement efforts (among others;) I know a few returning players who have been looking for something to do. Who knows, it might be something to their interests! (P.S. You rock for this proposal!) --Si vis pacem, para bellum. (stalk · KT · FoD · UU) 08:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Sweet. I love a good, ambitious event. A ZOMBIE ANT 14:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)