UDWiki:Administration/Arbitration/Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive vs Umbrella

Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive vs. Umbrella

This case is presented because The Umbrella Corporation is angry that I, of all people, took the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive commander's offer, and took leadership of the group. I am requesting that the page "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service," Be the page for my group "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive," as they only took that page because I took control. Any collaboration needed, just ask.Proof 1, Proof 2, Proof 3. Anymore proof needed, just feel free to ask. --/\Haliman/\ ^{T | P! | W!} 23:22, 30 September 2008 (BST)

This case looks fun. I'll arby it! :D -- Cheese 23:44, 30 September 2008 (BST)

So what now? I am new to this... --/\Haliman/\ ^{T | P! | W!} 23:59, 30 September 2008 (BST)

You need a representative from the other party to accept me (or another arbitrator) before it can start. -- Cheese 00:01, 1 October 2008 (BST)

Just tell em'? Seems easy enough.... Contacted. --/\Haliman/\ ^{T | P! | W!} 00:40, 1 October 2008 (BST)

Knowing Umbrella Corps, they won't appear at all... god I hate them, I volunteer for arbitrator...--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 00:28, 2 October 2008 (BST)

Somewhat related to this case, what's the procedure if a representative from the other group doesn't show up/doesn't want to enter into arbitration?----Ash  ^{|  T  |  яя  |} 10:25, 2 October 2008 (BST)

Give me a few hours, expect a representative from Umbrella soon. We'll probably accept Cheeseman, as he can be objective. Right? Oh and Rakuen, telling you hate one party and then volunteering? Fail.--MisterGame 12:39, 2 October 2008 (BST)

I also accept Cheese. Sorry about not being around lately, no internet. --/\Haliman/\ ^{T | P! | W!} 20:53, 2 October 2008 (BST)

Oh and MisterGamer, don't be a fucking idiot.--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 02:09, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Enough with the drama. Save it for after the case. --/\Haliman/\ ^{T | P! | W!} 17:08, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Oh right, cause most arbies aren't caused from excessive drama :rolleyes:--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 20:35, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Lets go Umbrella! Where's your rep! I want this to be a quick case. --/\Haliman/\ ^{T | P! | W!} 23:28, 4 October 2008 (BST)

Jesus fuck christ Hali, yer sig takes up more than three lines alone, fix it for gods sake.--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 17:26, 5 October 2008 (BST)

It took me forever to do it, but I fixed it even before you asked me to :P. --{{User:Haliman111/sig}} 17:39, 5 October 2008 (BST)

Scratch that. It always comes up as "SUBST:" then the sig in my preferences. Any ideas? --Hal-i-man-111 17:40, 5 October 2008 (BST)

We'll take this little bit into your talk page, shall we? Don't want to clutter the case with sig talk.-- dǝǝɥs oʇ ɯɐds: sʎɐʍ1ɐ! 22:05, 5 October 2008 (BST)

How'd it take you a long time? It took me a few minutes... Is it really that hard? noobs... *sigh*--/~Rakuen~\^Talk I Still Love Grim 03:26, 7 October 2008 (BST)

I and Airheadoh have accepted the case and Krazy monkey/cheeseman as arbitrator, if he still wants.--MisterGame 12:54, 7 October 2008 (BST)

It's about time... I solved a 7 month problem while you were gone! Anyways, I also accept. --Haliman - Talk 21:52, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Gotcha. Lets rumble.

Cheese's opening comments

Right. Here's how this is going to work. First Haliman posts his opening statement under the header called Haliman's Opening Statement, then the Umbrella Reps can post his statement under Umbrella's Opening Statement. Do not post under the others header. You will get an opportunity to respond when I say so.

After the opening statements, I'll do a quick summing up and decide whether I require more information (which I will ask for where applicable). After than, we'll have a round of rebuttals where Haliman can respond to Umbrella's statements (if he wishes) and then for the Umbrella Reps to respond to Haliman's rebuttal (if a) Haliman made one and b) if either of them wishes to). I'll then take another lookie and see if I need to know anything else, maybe another round of rebuttals then I'll make my closing statement and go and have a snooze then decide on the ruling.

Haliman, you're up first. Please post your statement in the bit under this bit.

Haliman's Opening Statement

Haliman or me (Cheese) only beyond this point

Here goes. Mistergame and Airheadoh are mad that I took Air's offer of taking over the group "UBCS." The page was called "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive, but the group is called Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service. Now, why should I have that page you ask? Airheadoh's in-game group right now is "Umbrella Corporation." Not "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service."

http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=902115

My forum: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Umbrella_UBCS/index.php?act=idx -=- With the UBCS name.

The stats: http://urbandead.com/stats.html -=- With MY UBCS ranked. The link goes to their page.

They took advantage of a typo, and just want to hinder the progress of my group. There is not A SINGLE active old UBCS member. They are all here. If their page is truly a functioning group, why does it say "Acting Commander: None."

They can use the "Burning Star didn't authorize this switch..." Well he didn't authorize Ray taking command either. He didn't authorize Air taking over. We can go down a list of thing he didn't authorize. Point is, Umbrella hates ME. It's not about the UBCS. They just want to make my life a little more difficult. Not this time.

Point is, their UBCS has 0 members. Mine has 12. If anything else needs to be elaborated, please ask. --Haliman - Talk 22:34, 7 October 2008 (BST)

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Few questions:

1. Why did you take up Air's offer? Can you give me some more detail on it?
2. What history do you have with Umbrella in order for this disagreement to have arisen?
3. Can you explain the first two sentences of your final paragraph ("They can use..." to "...he didn't authorise") as that means pretty much nothing to me as it is. -- Cheese 22:41, 7 October 2008 (BST)

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1. It's no secret that I have always wanted a Resident Evil Themed group.
2. I criticized leadership and I wanted a change. I got kicked out of the group. I am not going to hide this next fact: I wanted to oust leadership. I don't care who became leader, I just wanted it to be someone other than the current ones.
3. Burning Star IV was the creator of UBCS. I said that up there in case they wanted to say "He didn't allow me to give you leadership." --Haliman - Talk 22:50, 7 October 2008 (BST)

Umbrella's Opening Statement

MisterGame, Airheadoh or me (Cheese) only beyond this point

MisterGame/Thadeous Oakley

As Airheadoh already said below, Haliman never got any permission for taking-over. He would never had got it, and damn straight that Haliman knew this, which is the prime reason he did not contact Airheadoh in the first place. Haliman is just provoking Umbrella, plain and simple. And as you might have heard, Umbrella Corp and Haliman have bad history. Haliman was kicked out of Umbrella after trying to betray and backstab its leaders. He did not like the way how Umbrella functioned and instead of leaving like most people would he tried to overthrow leadership. After his ban, haliman tried to take members away from Umbrella and he also grieved and cried allot about Umbrella at forums of other survivor groups. A detailed report about all of this (including psychological chats with haliman) can be found here:http://z15.invisionfree.com/Umbrella/index.php?showtopic=756 Its pretty long and pretty sad though its worth the read.

Its also questionable why haliman just did not continue his own, legit, survivor group complete with a forum after his ban at Umbrella: http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Psyops_Inc.

Back to the UBCS page: we want it back as we never gave it away. The original content will be put back on and will remain there.

Airheadoh

First off, on Haliman's UBCS page, he states that he got my approval to take over the UBCS. This is untrue. He never contacted me about remaking the group, and thus, I never consented to it.

I only announced the disbanding of the group because I thought there were no more active players in it.Apparently I announced the disbandment of the UBCS prematurely. There are actually two members of the old UBCS left that became active again, coincidentally within a day or two from when I announced the disbanding.

CastorTroy583- http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=499181

AmonPL- http://www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=768542

As long as they still have Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service in their group tags, they are the last surviving members of the UBCS.

Haliman was banned from Umbrella because of traitorous acts he committed while under the guise of serving Umbrella. This case is not a personal vendetta against Haliman himself, however. Several months ago, the UBCS became a close ally with the Umbrella Corporation, even using a section of their forums as their own. The Umbrella Corporation has a vested interest in the future of the UBCS as they have been allies for a long time and would not like to see it fall into the hands of a known traitor and someone who does not have the best interests of the Corporation at heart.

If you have any questions, I would be glad to answer them. Otherwise, I pass the floor to MisterGame, and will wait for the time we are allowed to respond. ~Airheadoh

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Couple of things I want to get clarified:

1. Can you explain the origins of the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive page? The earliest edit was yours (since the purge).
2. What is the connection between Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive and Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service? -- Cheese 18:48, 9 October 2008 (BST)

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If I understand the question correctly, I think I can answer both at the same time. I wasn't around when the UBCS was initially formed, I came in after. The only thing I could think of was that the "Servive" part was a typo that no one bothered to correct. So since UBCS's creation, the page has just been Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive. So, the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive and the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service are actually the same group, however somebody finally corrected the misspelling and created the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service group page based of the existing one, and Haliman has taken control of the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Servive that was left over.~Airheadoh

The UBCServiCe was created by me, the original UBCServiVe was owned by Airheadoh before Haliman took it over without permission and changed the content of it. Instead of starting an undo edit war with Haliman, I created the UBCServiCe and uploaded the original content of Airheadoh's UBCS there as a temporary solution. Sorry that I still havent posted my opening statement, I am a bit busy in reallife and such. I can hopefully put it up by tomorrow. --MisterGame 22:22, 9 October 2008 (BST)

Cheese's Middle Comment bit

Right. I've got all I need from the opening statements. You are now free to respond to each others statements (if you wish) in the sections below. After that, I'll review the situation and decide if we need another round or whether I can go straight to rule. -- Cheese 21:30, 13 October 2008 (BST)

UBCS's Rebuttal

Haliman only here

Lulz. Air, listen. Amon has BRAIN ROT, and Castortroy hasn't reported to you for orders in a very long time. He is even marked as MIA on your page. Also on your page, it still says "Acting Commander: None." Don't have the corporations best interests at heart? If I wanted to piss Umbrella off, I would have made the UBCS HQ in Shearbank. I didn't do that. I chose Havercroft. If anything, Umbrella is the one pressing for a war. They sent a spy, LSU's alt. They also sent Airheadoh to get a roster on who is working for us. Now, the old group didn't use a forum. We have no way of knowing if those two are just alts. I, on the other hand, have a forum. We have IPs linking to different people, and they are online at the same time. We are 13, they are 2.

He gave permission to ANYONE to take the group. I took the group "Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service." Proof 1, Proof 2, Proof 3.

And now for Thadeous. Let me start by saying that was a truly weak prosecution. I expected more from you! Ah, well. Psyops was a failed idea. Many of my ideas did fail. UBCS didn't. We are ranked on the stat page. Something the old UBCS couldn't acomplish.

Not much else I can say at the moment. --Haliman - Talk 22:47, 13 October 2008 (BST)

Unrightfully? It said ANYONE may take the group over. --Haliman - Talk 00:45, 14 October 2008 (BST)

Umbrella's Rebuttal

Umbrella Reps only here

If Haliman wants a Resident evil themed group, well, he should have thought of that before backstabbing Umbrella or before even joining Umbrella in the first place. Besides, Resident Evil themed is something else then Umbrella themed. Create a Los Illuminados cult for I care.--MisterGame 22:39, 13 October 2008 (BST)

So when you, haliman111, unrightfully took the page over, how did you imagine that we, Umbrella, would react to that?--MisterGame 23:48, 13 October 2008 (BST)

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First of all, It doesn't matter if Amon has Brain Rot or not. A lot of pro-survivor players have brain rot. All we have to do it get him inside a powered NT to revive him, not that big of a deal.

Most of your evidence is moot. The fact that I have Umbrella in my group tag and that the Acting Commander is still "none" is because that is what it was changed to after I relieved myself of command. The reason the two members of UBCS are left as MIA on the page was because I haven't fixed it. You took the page right after and now we've been in arbitration. You have no idea whether or not who has reported in to me. The wiki is not the only place I can talk to my men. So don't pretend you know what is going on with my group and try and use that as evidence. In your opening statements, you claim that Ray Hanley and I were never given permission to take over the UBCS. That is flat out wrong. Ray Hanley was told by Burning Star IV that he would be taking over the UBCS after he was gone. Then, after Ray's prolonged absence, I elected myself as the new leader. Get your facts right before you try and shove them at us. Oh and just to further rip holes in your story made out of see-thru mesh, Burning Star was not the creator of the UBCS, Dark X was the original leader.

I was never sent to your forum to spy on you or see who was working for you. I went of my own accord to just to check things out for my own interest. And if you are referring to "those two " and trying to claim they are alts of someone else, I can assure you they are their own players. And you can check their IP addresses to prove that.

And you dare degrade the UBCS by saying we couldn't accomplish being on the stats page. That means absolutely nothing when trying to prove you are a legit group, as seen with the short lived massive zombie group "The Dead" who went from 1500 members to less than 200. Our goal during UBCS's reign was not to be a huge group and make that stats page. Our purpose was to be a small tight-knit group. A strike force, like the Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service should be. So stop claiming your "amazing" numbers here, no one's interested. ~Airheadoh 02:42, 14 October 2008 (EST)

Cheese's Next Bit

No going past here till I say so